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Stan Kirk

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Nov 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/25/00
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Can anyone recommend how to stop my seat post constantly slipping down in
the collar, this is the only problem on my otherwise luvverly East Peak and
I am getting fed up of having to adjust it every few miles now, tried
tightening the clamp to something that I feared would snap the collar but
after a while its slipped again, remember a thread a while back but now been
deleted as I was not having a problem then, thanks in anticipation.
Stan Kirk.
Leeds

Laurie SedmanPOP_Server=pop.freeuk.net

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Nov 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/25/00
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Dear Stan

Is the seatpost the correct size? Perhaps get it checked by a local bike
shop. You might need either a different sized seatpost or sometimes you can
get shims that rectify the problem.

For further info like this perhaps try our website at www.cobr.co.uk

Lau...@cobr.co.uk

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Greg Wright

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>
> Is the seatpost the correct size? Perhaps get it checked by a local bike
> shop. You might need either a different sized seatpost or sometimes you
can
> get shims that rectify the problem.
>

This was the problem with my wife's Marin Bear Valley. Although the seat
post was marked as being the correct size it was in fact too thin.

Greg

Greg Wright

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Simon Ward <si...@deepwater.uklinux.net> wrote in message
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> Greg Wright <gr...@wright90.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [snip]
> : This was the problem with my wife's Marin Bear Valley. Although the

seat
> : post was marked as being the correct size it was in fact too thin.
> This being the case, you'd have to buy a new seatpost and possibly an
> appropriate shim or chance your arm by shimming the post out with a bit of
> old Coke can (crude, but surprisingly effective)

Not true. The shop found a correctly sized Marin seat post which was marked
as the same size as the ill fitting original. When the new one was fitted
the problem was solved.

Greg

Simon Ward

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Nov 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/25/00
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Greg Wright <gr...@wright90.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]
: This was the problem with my wife's Marin Bear Valley. Although the seat
: post was marked as being the correct size it was in fact too thin.
This being the case, you'd have to buy a new seatpost and possibly an
appropriate shim or chance your arm by shimming the post out with a bit of

old Coke can (crude, but surprisingly effective) - I had similar
slippage problems on my steel frames, the solution being to tighten up the
seatpost bolt without a seatpost in place and then refitting. Obviously,
this isn't an option with an aluminium frame so you need to be a bit more
inventive.
FWIW, most (but not all) Marins take 27.0mm seatposts - you may want to
check that the existing seatpin is the right diameter, but also that the
seat *tube* is the right diameter - a set of calipers is useful here. If
all else fails, and the bike is new, get a replacement under warranty.
Trying to force fit the next-size-up seatpost isn't a good idea.

Simon

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russell.pinder

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Nov 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/25/00
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It's a known problem with Marin seatclamps - it's the seat clamp mechanism
that'sat fault- either do it up mega mega tight or replace the seat clamp

Russ

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>
> Simon Ward <si...@deepwater.uklinux.net> wrote in message
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> > Greg Wright <gr...@wright90.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> > : This was the problem with my wife's Marin Bear Valley. Although the
> seat
> > : post was marked as being the correct size it was in fact too thin.
> > This being the case, you'd have to buy a new seatpost and possibly an
> > appropriate shim or chance your arm by shimming the post out with a bit
of
> > old Coke can (crude, but surprisingly effective)
>

Simon Ward

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Greg Wright <gr...@wright90.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]
: Not true. The shop found a correctly sized Marin seat post which was marked


: as the same size as the ill fitting original. When the new one was fitted
: the problem was solved.

Which just goes to show that somebody's quality control needs looking
at ...

Myra Van Inwegen

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Stan Kirk <stan...@garforthleeds.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Can anyone recommend how to stop my seat post constantly slipping down in
>the collar, this is the only problem on my otherwise luvverly East Peak and
>I am getting fed up of having to adjust it every few miles now, tried
>tightening the clamp to something that I feared would snap the collar but
>after a while its slipped again, remember a thread a while back but now been
>deleted as I was not having a problem then, thanks in anticipation.

I replaced my quick release seat clamp with an allen key one and it
fixed the problem.
--
-Myra VanInwegen mv...@cl.cam.ac.uk
Myra's Bike Pages http://simon.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/bike/
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TonyP

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Wow........How ingeneous. Your very clever. Gosh gee wizz.
So now you have a slow release seat clamp.
Maybe I'll replace my quick release wheels with nuts.
Any other bright ideas?

You don't half talk some bull***t


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Myra Van Inwegen

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TonyP <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
>Wow........How ingeneous. Your very clever. Gosh gee wizz.
>So now you have a slow release seat clamp.
>Maybe I'll replace my quick release wheels with nuts.
>Any other bright ideas?
>
>You don't half talk some bull***t

It is an accepted solution to the Marin slipping seatpost problem.
It works. It is cheap.

If you don't want advice then don't bother to post here, eh?

Simon Ward

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TonyP <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
: Wow........How ingeneous. Your very clever. Gosh gee wizz.
Myra's contributions, useful or otherwise, are more numerous than yours.

: So now you have a slow release seat clamp.
Not really. I've got an AK seat clamp on my Marin. Not only does it
solve the `slipping seatpost' problem, but it's no more hassle than a q/r
clamp.

: Maybe I'll replace my quick release wheels with nuts.

Why not? Works for me on my fixed gear, and doesn't make fixing
punctures etc. any more difficult than with q/r wheels. Also, it's a
surprisingly good way of deterring casual theft - whilst there's not a lot
you can do in the face of a determined theft attempt, a great many bits of
thievery are opportunistic, so anything which makes their life more
difficult ie. by slowing them down, is a Good Thing.

: Any other bright ideas?
Crawl back into your hole?

: You don't half talk some bull***t
Like your contribution to this thread, perhaps?

David E. Belcher

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Myra Van Inwegen wrote:

> It is an accepted solution to the Marin slipping seatpost problem.
> It works. It is cheap.
>

Good point. Not all high-end bikes (e.g. Raleigh RSP) bother with QR
clamps, for the very reason that the seat works loose. And of course us
roadies don't usually bother at all, which still doesn't explain how my
rather pricey seatpin/saddle got nicked from my old 653 when I left it
on campus last December (well-equipped bike thieves with allen keys??)!

David E. Belcher

Dept. of Chemistry,
University of York

TonyP

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Nov 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/27/00
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It is not a satisfactory solution.
What an idiot...The day I ask for your advice will never come, love. :-)

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> TonyP <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
> >Wow........How ingeneous. Your very clever. Gosh gee wizz.

> >So now you have a slow release seat clamp.

> >Maybe I'll replace my quick release wheels with nuts.

> >Any other bright ideas?


> >
> >You don't half talk some bull***t
>

> It is an accepted solution to the Marin slipping seatpost problem.
> It works. It is cheap.
>

TonyP

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>>> Why not? Works for me on my fixed gear, and doesn't make fixing
punctures etc. any more difficult than with q/r wheels

What a moron..

Simple Simon Say's:


>>>Also, it's a
surprisingly good way of deterring casual theft - whilst there's not
a lot
you can do in the face of a determined theft attempt, a great many
bits of
thievery are opportunistic, so anything which makes their life more
difficult ie. by slowing them down, is a Good Thing.

Yes..Why not take all the good bits off your bike while your at it
:-)
Keep talking.

>>> Myra's contributions, useful or otherwise, are more numerous than
yours.

I'd say mostly otherwise. :-) How old are you?... 12

>>>Crawl back into your hole.

Slide back under that rock Dr Nobackbone...


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> TonyP <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
> :

TonyP

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David E. Belcher <deb...@york.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> Myra Van Inwegen wrote:
>
> > It is an accepted solution to the Marin slipping seatpost problem.
> > It works. It is cheap.
> >
>

> Good point. Not all high-end bikes (e.g. Raleigh RSP) bother with QR
> clamps, for the very reason that the seat works loose. And of course us
> roadies don't usually bother at all, which still doesn't explain how my
> rather pricey seatpin/saddle got nicked from my old 653 when I left it
> on campus last December (well-equipped bike thieves with allen keys??)!
>

> David E. Belcher
>
> Dept. of Chemistry,
> University of York

1.. . If you had Qr you could have taken your nice seat with you.
2...Greg isn't a roadie so he may need to adjust his seat depending on
his ride.
3... I think all you university folk need an injection of common
sense....It's as if all that ambition and study has
frozen 3/4 of your brain.

I'm not joking either....Jesus.....


David E. Belcher

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TonyP wrote:

> 3... I think all you university folk need an injection of common
> sense....It's as if all that ambition and study has
> frozen 3/4 of your brain.
>
> I'm not joking either....Jesus.....

If you only intend to use this NG to post random abuse about other folk
I suggest you leave ASAP. Incidentally, I could quite easily freeze 3/4
(and the rest, assuming it's all there) of YOUR brain; pass the liquid
nitrogen, someone....

Message has been deleted

Myra Van Inwegen

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TonyP <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
>It is not a satisfactory solution.

Fine, you could have simply said so in the first place. Am I supposed
to have read your mind, to know that you consider your quick release
seat clamp sacred?

>What an idiot...The day I ask for your advice will never come, love. :-)

So I'm an idiot for suggesting a solution to a problem, and
furthermore a solution that has been successful for a good number of
Marin owners? Hmmmm, I think you've got some growing up to do.

Simon Ward

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David E. Belcher <deb...@york.ac.uk> wrote:

[snip]
: If you only intend to use this NG to post random abuse about other folk


: I suggest you leave ASAP.

S'OK. If he does post again in the near future it'll probably have to be
through another ISP - I've mailed his gaseous outpourings to
ab...@blueyonder.co.uk, and I suggest anyone else who has been put off by
this fuckwit do likewise.

Simon

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Email: si...@blinkyfish.freeserve.co.uk (pref'd) Phone: +44 (0)1904 432398

TonyP

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Because I know I didn't ask the question.. ....strange!


Steve Peake <sp...@puppet-head.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "TonyP" <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > It is not a satisfactory solution.
>

> How do you know, you didn't ask the question.
>
> Steve
>
>
>

John W Thornbury

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Thats right you tell them there nothing but a closed cliqe they cant
help peaple like us You tell them! Thanx. John.

"TonyP" <ton...@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
> Wow........How ingeneous. Your very clever. Gosh gee wizz.
> So now you have a slow release seat clamp.
> Maybe I'll replace my quick release wheels with nuts.
> Any other bright ideas?
>
> You don't half talk some bull***t
>
>
> Myra Van Inwegen <mv...@sprat.cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:8vtg7d$hmj$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk...
>> Stan Kirk <stan...@garforthleeds.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> >Can anyone recommend how to stop my seat post constantly slipping down in
>> >the collar, this is the only problem on my otherwise luvverly East Peak
> and
>> >I am getting fed up of having to adjust it every few miles now, tried
>> >tightening the clamp to something that I feared would snap the collar but
>> >after a while its slipped again, remember a thread a while back but now
> been
>> >deleted as I was not having a problem then, thanks in anticipation.
>>
>> I replaced my quick release seat clamp with an allen key one and it
>> fixed the problem.

TonyP

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Go and get a life....

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TonyP

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Done you the same favour.... :-)

And your isp is ab...@york.ac.uk


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> >>> Why not? Works for me on my fixed gear, and doesn't make fixing
> punctures etc. any more difficult than with q/r wheels
>
> What a moron..
>
> Simple Simon Say's:
> >>>Also, it's a
> surprisingly good way of deterring casual theft - whilst there's
not
> a lot
> you can do in the face of a determined theft attempt, a great many
> bits of
> thievery are opportunistic, so anything which makes their life more
> difficult ie. by slowing them down, is a Good Thing.
>
> Yes..Why not take all the good bits off your bike while your at it
> :-)
> Keep talking.
>
> >>> Myra's contributions, useful or otherwise, are more numerous than
> yours.
>
> I'd say mostly otherwise. :-) How old are you?... 12
>
> >>>Crawl back into your hole.
>
> Slide back under that rock Dr Nobackbone...
>
>
>
>

> Simon Ward <si...@deepwater.uklinux.net> wrote in message

> news:8vubpt$806$1...@pump1.york.ac.uk...
> > TonyP <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
> > :
>
>


TonyP

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>
> >What an idiot...The day I ask for your advice will never come, love. :-)
>
> So I'm an idiot for suggesting a solution to a problem, and
> furthermore a solution that has been successful for a good number of
> Marin owners? Hmmmm, I think you've got some growing up to do.

Oh yeah ok ....Whatever you say. Now be a good girlie and play with your
dolls.
I'm now bored with you ...So .....end of thread.
>
> -

Myra Van Inwegen

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TonyP <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
> Oh yeah ok ....Whatever you say. Now be a good girlie and play with your
>dolls.

You mean my four mountain bikes? Yeah, no problem!

> I'm now bored with you ...So .....end of thread.

Likewise.
--

Ben Sales

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:10:44 GMT, "TonyP"
<tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:

>Done you the same favour.... :-)
>
>And your isp is ab...@york.ac.uk

And what you fail to realise muppet, is that neither his 'ISP' or
yours will do anything about it. Unless you post in breach of a
newsgroups charter (which uk.rec.cycling doesn't have) they will take
no action.

You're illustrating the fact the you're a muppet in several ways:

a) Being able to read someones headers doesn't mean you know
everything about them. ac.uk addresses are subject to Janet rules as
well as university rules, which are often different from normal isp
rules. An abuse report to a uni will probably be ignored unless the
poster is suggesting something illegal.

b) If you're too thick to see that a valid cure from a slipping
seatpost is an allenkey bolt clamp, then you really are quite thick.
Do you believe everything MBUK write about being able to adjust your
seatpost for descents etc? I raced competitively for 5 years and
never once moved my seatpost. As far as security goes a bolt is more
secure than a QR. It's also lighter.

c) You will never now get any help from this group again in all
likelyhood. You came here and asked a question. You got sensible
answers. You then insulted people. That's not the right way to go
about things.

I suggest you go and tell your parents you're not capable of using a
computer and holding conversations with adults and they take it back
to the shop.

And I strongly recommend you don't bother with abuse reports, threats
etc for me. You won't get anywhere and the emails come to me.

B

Ben Sales

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:06:19 +0000, Ben Sales
<benGET_RID_...@ukrm.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:10:44 GMT, "TonyP"
><tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
>

>>Done you the same favour.... :-)
>>
>>And your isp is ab...@york.ac.uk

<snip me telling him he's a muppet>

Bad form following up your own post and all that, but it appears ukrc
has been frogged.

TonyP (to...@free-internet.co.uk) is as far as I can tell the same
person as JRS/PS/HRS-Thornbury (john.sh...@cableinet.co.uk).

From the headers of their posts:

First tonyp:

Subject: Re: Marin seat post trouble
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200
Message-ID: <8KCU5.23952$ws2.2...@news3.cableinet.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:10:44 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.48.148.21
X-Complaints-To: ab...@blueyonder.co.uk
X-Trace: news3.cableinet.net 975370244 213.48.148.21 (Tue, 28 Nov 2000
00:10:44 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:10:44 GMT
Organization: blueyonder (post doesn't reflect views of blueyonder)

And now john:

Subject: For Sale due to terminal Illness. Please read.
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200
Message-ID: <lQrU5.22236$ws2.2...@news3.cableinet.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:46:25 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.117.146.226
X-Complaints-To: ab...@blueyonder.co.uk
X-Trace: news3.cableinet.net 975325585 194.117.146.226 (Mon, 27 Nov
2000 11:46:25 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:46:25 GMT
Organization: blueyonder (post doesn't reflect views of blueyonder)

You'll notice some stunning similarities in those headers.

I'd suggest that John W Thornbury (J...@dubya.uk) is also the same
person but using a Freeserve/fsnet/Planet Online dialup instead of the
Cable Internet/Telewest cable one.

Ignore him folks, he's being a twat.

B

Myra Van Inwegen

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Ben Sales <benGET_RID_...@ukrm.org> wrote:
>TonyP (to...@free-internet.co.uk) is as far as I can tell the same
>person as JRS/PS/HRS-Thornbury (john.sh...@cableinet.co.uk).

Ah, now it makes sense... I was wondering why anyone would back up
TonyP when the latter was being such a jerk. Especially backing him up
by saying (paraphrased) "Way to go boyo, people here are just a clique
and won't help us" when my response (proposing a solution to his
slipping seatpost problem) was an example of just the opposite: trying
to be helpful.

If they are the same person, or at least know each other very well
(like housemates) then it makes sense.

Ben Sales

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On 28 Nov 2000 15:30:28 GMT, mv...@sprat.cl.cam.ac.uk (Myra Van
Inwegen) wrote:

>Ben Sales <benGET_RID_...@ukrm.org> wrote:
>>TonyP (to...@free-internet.co.uk) is as far as I can tell the same
>>person as JRS/PS/HRS-Thornbury (john.sh...@cableinet.co.uk).
>
>Ah, now it makes sense... I was wondering why anyone would back up
>TonyP when the latter was being such a jerk. Especially backing him up
>by saying (paraphrased) "Way to go boyo, people here are just a clique
>and won't help us" when my response (proposing a solution to his
>slipping seatpost problem) was an example of just the opposite: trying
>to be helpful.
>
>If they are the same person, or at least know each other very well
>(like housemates) then it makes sense.

I say it was the same machine, mainly by the dialup, build of OE and
the times of posting. The writing style leads me to believe its the
same person. The use of an email address from a free provider but the
dialup of a cable company suggests it is someone who wants to hide but
isn't very good at it.

B

TonyP

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Listen creep...

1. I didn't ask for advice. Ok
2. I am getting emails from a few other regulars that back me but
don't want to get involved at the moment, so maybe I will
get help...if not who cares? Not me.
3. You must have "anal retentive" stamped on your forehead. :-)

Ben Sales <benGET_RID_...@ukrm.org> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:10:44 GMT, "TonyP"
> <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
>

> >Done you the same favour.... :-)
> >
> >And your isp is ab...@york.ac.uk
>

Ben Sales

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:49:33 GMT, "TonyP"
<tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:

>Listen creep...
>
> 1. I didn't ask for advice. Ok

No, come to think of it you didn't. You just barged in shouting your
mouth off and abusing people. Do you do that when you're not hiding
behind your computer screen?

> 2. I am getting emails from a few other regulars that back me but
>don't want to get involved at the moment, so maybe I will
> get help...if not who cares? Not me.

Back you in what? Insulting people? Do any of Tony's imaginary
friends want to come forward and say something at this point? The
whole of urc is listening.

> 3. You must have "anal retentive" stamped on your forehead. :-)

Actually I've got a couple of frown lines but that's about it. John,
Tony, whatever the f*ck your name is stop being a prat.

B

Tom Webster

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> Wow........How ingeneous. Your very clever. Gosh gee wizz.
> So now you have a slow release seat clamp.
> Maybe I'll replace my quick release wheels with nuts.
> Any other bright ideas?
>
I have Allen Key skewers on my wheels. The theory being that if I'm taking
my wheel off I will have my tools out because I'll be fixing a puncture or
changing a tyre. So it basically takes no longer to take off/put on my
wheels than with QR's.

> You don't half talk some bull***t

Seat Allen key bolts can be a little awkward sometimes. If I see a nice
tasty drop-off mid ride and I don't have my Allen keys in my pocket I have
to spend a little time taking my Allen keys out of my camelback to lower my
saddle. Also sometimes the Allen hole gets caked up with mud so you have to
clear it out before you use it.

However many users do not have the need to adjust their saddle mid ride and
they are certainly much easier to use than the quite frankly awful Marin
QR's... you have to do them up so tight that even a strong person has to put
a lot of effort into tightening it... especially when the washer goes.

--
-Tom Webster.. maste...@teraflop.co.uk

Pete Jones

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:54:13 +0000, Ben Sales
<benGET_RID_...@ukrm.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:49:33 GMT, "TonyP"
><tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Listen creep...
>>
>> 1. I didn't ask for advice. Ok
>
>No, come to think of it you didn't. You just barged in shouting your
>mouth off and abusing people. Do you do that when you're not hiding
>behind your computer screen?
>
>> 2. I am getting emails from a few other regulars that back me but
>>don't want to get involved at the moment, so maybe I will
>> get help...if not who cares? Not me.
>
>Back you in what? Insulting people? Do any of Tony's imaginary
>friends want to come forward and say something at this point? The
>whole of urc is listening.

The eejit's pulled the same stunt on uk.rec.walking a few times too.

Pete
----
http://www.btinternet.com/~peteajones/

Ben Sales

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Yes, I've noticed, I've been checking out his posting history.

I can't be arsed anymore. Him and his alteregos are going in the
killfile.

B

Gary Knighton

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:06:19 +0000, contributor Ben Sales had scribed:

> c) You will never now get any help from this group again in all
> likelyhood. You came here and asked a question. You got sensible
> answers. You then insulted people. That's not the right way to go
> about things.
>

The original enquirer was Stan Kirk not the subscriber from Blueyonder.

--

Gary Knighton, York
Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:46 GMT

Using Virtual Access

Gary Knighton

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:40:05 +0000, contributor Ben Sales had scribed:

> TonyP (to...@free-internet.co.uk) is as far as I can tell the same
> person as JRS/PS/HRS-Thornbury (john.sh...@cableinet.co.uk).
>

[Sample headers snipped]

All you have done is shown that TonyP and Mr Shackford use the same ISP
(bluyonder.co.uk) and the same client software (Microsoft Outlook
Express 5.00.2615.200). The latter is quite possible if the former
send CDs to the potential subscribers the same CD, isn't that what
FreeServe does?

--

Gary Knighton, York
Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:53 GMT

Using Virtual Access

Ben Sales

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:25:06 GMT, Gary Knighton
<gary_k...@compuserve.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:06:19 +0000, contributor Ben Sales had scribed:
>> c) You will never now get any help from this group again in all
>> likelyhood. You came here and asked a question. You got sensible
>> answers. You then insulted people. That's not the right way to go
>> about things.
>>
>
>The original enquirer was Stan Kirk not the subscriber from Blueyonder.

Yes, I realise that now. I hadn't read far back enough in the thread.

B
--
Ben Sales
SV650SY DIAABTCOD#11 BOTAFOT#75 two#19 ICQ#73726000
I'm always serious, never more so
than when I'm being flippant.

Ben Sales

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:25:07 GMT, Gary Knighton
<gary_k...@compuserve.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:40:05 +0000, contributor Ben Sales had scribed:
>> TonyP (to...@free-internet.co.uk) is as far as I can tell the same
>> person as JRS/PS/HRS-Thornbury (john.sh...@cableinet.co.uk).
>>
>
>[Sample headers snipped]
>
>All you have done is shown that TonyP and Mr Shackford use the same ISP
>(bluyonder.co.uk) and the same client software (Microsoft Outlook
>Express 5.00.2615.200). The latter is quite possible if the former
>send CDs to the potential subscribers the same CD, isn't that what
>FreeServe does?

The posting from John W Thornbury was another clue. The writing style
was almost identical. Being an unusal name provides the link to John
Shackfords postings. Also the time of day of consecutive postings.
The IP's and paths provide other indicators.

B

Simon Ward

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Ben Sales <benGET_RID_...@ukrm.org> wrote:

[snip]
: Bad form following up your own post and all that, but it appears ukrc
: has been frogged.
So, not only is he a complete arse but he's also has an identity crisis.
Brilliant. I can only hope that there's a special Hell being prepared for
owners of the `free' ISPs who are responsible for unleashing clueless
newbies onto the 'Net.

Simon

--
Dr Simon Ward, Department of Electronics, University of York, YO10 5DD, UK
Email: si...@blinkyfish.freeserve.co.uk (pref'd) Phone: +44 (0)1904 432398

"PS2 - the Dyson vacuum cleaner of games consoles" - seen on the BBC website

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lardychap

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In article <3A22B408...@york.ac.uk>,

"David E. Belcher" <deb...@york.ac.uk> wrote:

> Good point. Not all high-end bikes (e.g. Raleigh RSP) bother with QR
> clamps, for the very reason that the seat works loose. And of course
us
> roadies don't usually bother at all, which still doesn't explain how
my
> rather pricey seatpin/saddle got nicked from my old 653 when I left it
> on campus last December (well-equipped bike thieves with allen
keys??)!

Someone a couple of years ago nicked my stem, headset, bars, levers,
shifters and pooter mountings.

So they had allen keys, headset spanners AND cable cutters. Bastards.

G


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

TonyP

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You seem to be very rattled Benny...I am hiding behing my computer only as
much as you are.
Why don't you go tell your mummy I'm a bully.

Ben Sales <benGET_RID_...@ukrm.org> wrote in message

news:u0l72t0of8hj079p7...@4ax.com...


> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:49:33 GMT, "TonyP"
> <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Listen creep...
> >
> > 1. I didn't ask for advice. Ok
>
> No, come to think of it you didn't. You just barged in shouting your
> mouth off and abusing people. Do you do that when you're not hiding
> behind your computer screen?
>
> > 2. I am getting emails from a few other regulars that back me but
> >don't want to get involved at the moment, so maybe I will
> > get help...if not who cares? Not me.
>
> Back you in what? Insulting people? Do any of Tony's imaginary
> friends want to come forward and say something at this point? The
> whole of urc is listening.
>

Greg Wright

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> 2...Greg isn't a roadie so he may need to adjust his seat depending on
> his ride.


You assume too much.

Don't forget the Marin is my wife's bike. I ride a Trek mountain bike and a
Giant road bike. I know how high the saddle should be on both and never
adjust them. Both have allen key fixing - that's how they were sold and
it's fine by me.

Greg

Russell Pinder

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I used to adjust my saddle depending on the terrain off road, lower for
downhill but recently I've found it counter productive - so now the saddle
just stay in one position.

Russ

Peter B

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TonyP <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cQxU5.23037$ws2.2...@news3.cableinet.net...

> Wow........How ingeneous. Your very clever. Gosh gee wizz.
> So now you have a slow release seat clamp.
> Maybe I'll replace my quick release wheels with nuts.
> Any other bright ideas?

The reason for QR wheels is to make the wheels easily removable for puncture
repairs, tyre changing etc...yes, obvious I know. Now give me a good reason
for a QR seat post clamp if you don't share the bike with other people?
Don't bother mentioning downhilling, it's not really applicable to most
riders.
I rode my hardtail XC bike for 8 years (and still do) with a bolt to clamp
the s/post when I realised the QR was superfluous.

Pete.


TonyP

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Actually ..I meant Stan...And Your wife has got better taste than you. Hehe

Greg Wright <gr...@wright90.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> > 2...Greg isn't a roadie so he may need to adjust his seat depending
on
> > his ride.
>
>
> You assume too much.
>
> Don't forget the Marin is my wife's bike. I ride a Trek mountain bike and
a
> Giant road bike. I know how high the saddle should be on both and never
> adjust them. Both have allen key fixing - that's how they were sold and
> it's fine by me.
>

> Greg
>
>

Peter B

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TonyP <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:TQzU5.23286$ws2.2...@news3.cableinet.net...
> 1.. . If you had Qr you could have taken your nice seat with you.

And carry everything else around with you that might get lifted?

> 2...Greg isn't a roadie so he may need to adjust his seat depending on
> his ride.

Eh? Explain please, IME once the seat is set to the right height it's best
left alone but I'm willing to accept that other people don't share my view
and am interested in their logic.

Pete.


TonyP

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It's obvious isn't it? Everyone with FS wants to try some jumping dont they?
Doesn't anyone have any testicles in here?


Peter B <pet...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Peter B

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TonyP <tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:B2UU5.25509$ws2.2...@news3.cableinet.net...

> It's obvious isn't it? Everyone with FS wants to try some jumping dont
they?
> Doesn't anyone have any testicles in here?

Oh, you mean "play-biking", sort of like BMXing, not real mountain or road
biking :-)

Pete.

Tom Webster

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> It's obvious isn't it? Everyone with FS wants to try some jumping dont
they?
> Doesn't anyone have any testicles in here?
>
No not everyone who has a FS jumps. Infact thinking about it all of my
mates at home who have a FS can't jump for toffee and hide this fact by
never jumping :)

I'm infact one of the only one with a hardtail and I'm the only one who will
entertain the others by doing jumps and drops that need the saddle lowered.

Many MTBikers, and it usually seems to be the more experienced riders always
have their saddle at a set height and never change the height, hence they
have no need for a QR seatpost clamp.

--
-Tom Webster.. maste...@teraflop.co.uk


Nora Lenderby

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Nov 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/29/00
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"lardychap" <gareth_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Someone a couple of years ago nicked my stem, headset,
> bars, levers, shifters and pooter mountings.

> So they had allen keys, headset spanners AND cable
> cutters. Bastards.

Determined and well-equipped thieves indeed to tap out the cups of a
headset! I can only assume that your forks were not worth having, or
they would doubtless have made off with those as well!

I really cannot agree with your use of foul language however, whatever
frustration you may feel at the theft. You should be ashamed.

N. Lenderby (Mrs)

Ben Sales

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:54:01 GMT, "TonyP"
<tony.p(nospam)@free-internet.co.uk> wrote:

>You seem to be very rattled Benny...I am hiding behing my computer only as
>much as you are.

Nope I'm not hiding behind mine. I'm paid to be here, makes it more
amusing to play with muppets like you.

>Why don't you go tell your mummy I'm a bully.

She'd think you're a muppet too. If you're a bully, you're a pretty
poor one.

Mike Davis

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TonyP wrote:
>
> It's obvious isn't it? Everyone with FS wants to try some jumping dont they?

But everyone carries allen keys anyway. Don't they?

Mike.

Mike Davis

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TonyP wrote:
>
> It is not a satisfactory solution.

Why not?

Mike.

Mike Davis

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TonyP wrote:
>
> Done you the same favour.... :-)
>
> And your isp is ab...@york.ac.uk

That's not an ISP. That's an email address.

Mike.

lardychap

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In article <90276j$nhm$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>,

"Nora Lenderby" <Nora_L...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> "lardychap" <gareth_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Someone a couple of years ago nicked my stem, headset,
> > bars, levers, shifters and pooter mountings.
>
> > So they had allen keys, headset spanners AND cable
> > cutters. Bastards.
>
> Determined and well-equipped thieves indeed to tap out the cups of a
> headset! I can only assume that your forks were not worth having, or
> they would doubtless have made off with those as well!

I was shocked, considering the shocking state of the bike before
aforesaidmentioned reprobates practiced their covert shop-skills.

Oh, and the comments whilst walking the bike home were SO original
after the 5th time...

>
> I really cannot agree with your use of foul language however, whatever
> frustration you may feel at the theft. You should be ashamed.

I consider myself reprimanded.

theodore...@my-deja.com

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In article <90276j$nhm$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Nora Lenderby" <Nora_L...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> "lardychap" <gareth_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Someone a couple of years ago nicked my stem, headset,
> > bars, levers, shifters and pooter mountings.
>
> > So they had allen keys, headset spanners AND cable
> > cutters. Bastards.
>
> Determined and well-equipped thieves indeed to tap out the cups of a
> headset! I can only assume that your forks were not worth having, or
> they would doubtless have made off with those as well!
>
> I really cannot agree with your use of foul language however, whatever
> frustration you may feel at the theft. You should be ashamed.
>
> N. Lenderby (Mrs)


My dear Mrs. Lenderby, if I might intercede: the young man may well have
had some knowledge of the parentage of the "rough chaps" in question. By
calling them "bastards", perhaps Mr. Gareth was simply being precise. Oh,
I know that such a term may fall afoul of the "PC Police", but as my
father used to opine, "Always call a shovel a shovel, Theodore."

In any event, if you think "bastard" is offensive, you should see the
sort of language I encounter as I continue my online research into into
unusual gynecological events. It is not to be countenanced! But that is
another thread.

I feel that we are "two peas in a pod", Nora -- may I call you Eunice?
Perhaps you might be free for tea sometime soon? Your husband is most
welcome to watch.

Theodore Blovius II (esq.)

Nora Lenderby

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<theodore...@my-deja.com> wrote:

> My dear Mrs. Lenderby, if I might intercede: the young man
> may well have had some knowledge of the parentage of the
> "rough chaps" in question. By calling them "bastards",
> perhaps Mr. Gareth was simply being precise. Oh, I know
> that such a term may fall afoul of the "PC Police", but as my
> father used to opine, "Always call a shovel a shovel, Theodore."
>
> In any event, if you think "bastard" is offensive, you should
> see the sort of language I encounter as I continue my online
> research into into unusual gynecological events. It is not to
> be countenanced! But that is another thread.
>
> I feel that we are "two peas in a pod", Nora -- may I call
> you Eunice? Perhaps you might be free for tea sometime
> soon? Your husband is most welcome to watch.
>
> Theodore Blovius II (esq.)

I don't think this is very funny, and neither does my husband.

N. Lenderby (Mrs)

Nora Lenderby

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"lardychap" <gareth_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9032iv$s90$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> Oh, and the comments whilst walking the bike home were
> SO original after the 5th time...

Yes, it does become tedious. I lose count of the number of people who
say 'you're supposed to ride it, love' when I'm wheeling my bicycle.
I'm not sure whether they're trying to be friendly, but the effect is
to patronise.

> > I really cannot agree with your use of foul language however,
> > whatever frustration you may feel at the theft. You should be
> > ashamed.
>

> I consider myself reprimanded.

I'm sorry to make a point of it, but I really don't think it adds
anything to the discussion, and it really is quite offensive to those
of us who grew up when such language was not thought 'trendy'. I can
hardly turn on the television or open a newspaper these days. Thank
you for being so reasonable.

N. Lenderby (Mrs)

lardychap

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In article <904mib$5u5$4...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Nora Lenderby" <Nora_L...@Hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm sorry to make a point of it, but I really don't think it adds
> anything to the discussion, and it really is quite offensive to those
> of us who grew up when such language was not thought 'trendy'. I can
> hardly turn on the television or open a newspaper these days. Thank
> you for being so reasonable.


BTW: Did you get your frame unbended/unbent/fixed?

G

Gertrude Blovius

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In article <904mia$5u5$3...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>,


I, too, am appalled by Theodore's online manners, but I don't think he
was attempting to be amusing. That's just Theo's way. I can say this with
some authority, as I used to be married to the man. Though my husband and
I are now estranged, both legally and spiritually, I still keep tabs on
him and clean up his messes. A 20 year-old-habit is hard to break.

Theodore's addiction to the web -- his 'studies' in particular --
contributed mightily to the breakup. Unfortunately he fancies himself
some kind of latter-day Sir Richard Francis Burton when it comes to
women's private parts.

I can also cast light on his undoubtedly perplexing desire to call you
'Eunice'. This name is of Greek origin, and means 'good victory', you
see. It's an obscure and tedious reference of his which doesn't bear
close scrutiny.

Kudos to you in your fight for decency on the web.

(the former Mrs.) Gertrude Blovius

Nora Lenderby

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"lardychap" <gareth_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:905ecu$qeu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> BTW: Did you get your frame unbended/unbent/fixed?

A friend of my husband looked at it and says that he doesn't think it
would be economical to have it repaired. It's a shame, as one doesn't
often see a Triumph Palm Springs on the road these days. However, we
have a little money from a Premium Bond, and are looking for something
a little more up-to-date.

Thank you for your kind interest.

N. Lenderby (Mrs)

Nora Lenderby

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"Gertrude Blovius" <gertrud...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:905jbn$u49$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> I, too, am appalled by Theodore's online manners, but I don't
> think he was attempting to be amusing. That's just Theo's way.
> I can say this with some authority, as I used to be married to the
> man. Though my husband and I are now estranged, both legally
> and spiritually, I still keep tabs on him and clean up his messes.
> A 20 year-old-habit is hard to break.
>
> Theodore's addiction to the web -- his 'studies' in particular --
> contributed mightily to the breakup. Unfortunately he fancies
> himself some kind of latter-day Sir Richard Francis Burton
> when it comes to women's private parts.
>
> I can also cast light on his undoubtedly perplexing desire to
> call you 'Eunice'. This name is of Greek origin, and means 'good
> victory', you see. It's an obscure and tedious reference of his
> which doesn't bear close scrutiny.
>
> Kudos to you in your fight for decency on the web.
>
> (the former Mrs.) Gertrude Blovius

'Mrs Blovius',

My niece, who knows more about these matters than I do, says that it
is clear from your 'headers' (whatever they may be!) that you and your
supposed estranged husband are one and the same person. Such deception
is deplorable, and I'm sure others will join me in condemning it out
of hand!

As if this were not enough, she also suggests that that the same
person has been impersonating Scott Munn (a journalist formerly with
Cycling Today). On reflection this should have been obvious that your
turgid prose in no way approximates Mr Munn's refulgent wit and
facility with our diverse and beautiful language. I shall be
contacting him about this matter, be assured of
that, and I'm sure that he will not be at all amused!

You should be ashamed of yourself!

N. Lenderby (Mrs)

Nora Lenderby

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"Nora Lenderby" <Nora_L...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "lardychap" <gareth_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:905ecu$qeu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > BTW: Did you get your frame unbended/unbent/fixed?

p.s. By the way, what is 'BTW' please?

john__...@my-deja.com

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In article <906deg$h6o$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>,

"Nora Lenderby" <Nora_L...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Gertrude Blovius" <gertrud...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:905jbn$u49$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> You should be ashamed of yourself!
>
> N. Lenderby (Mrs)

Your alter-egos are showing baby! You are all Scott Munn, AICMFP.
(Very entertaining, btw!)
--
John Laird

Daphne Lenderby

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> 'Mrs Blovius',
>
> My niece, who knows more about these matters than I do, says that it
> is clear from your 'headers' (whatever they may be!) that you and your
> supposed estranged husband are one and the same person. Such deception
> is deplorable, and I'm sure others will join me in condemning it out
> of hand!

Oh AUNTIE. You really are IMPOSSIBLE!! I have told You a Thousand Times
to take more care before accusing people, and Mrs Blovius is also a close
Friend of dear Algernon's Mother (I do hope He will not be too angry).
She has more than enough to put up with from that beastly Husband, without
You accusing Her of Deception. I think You should apologise at once.

Please forgive Her, dear Readers. I did tell Her the Bicycle was not
worth repairing, and Daddy has even said He will buy Her a new one for
Christmas, but She still wouldn't listen until She had not only called
upon the Wisdom of the Internet but also dragged the poor dear Colonel
down to the Outhouse to inspect the Damage. She is just so headstrong!

- Daf.

Nora Lenderby

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"Daphne Lenderby" <n...@spam.please> wrote in message
news:break...@lenderby.net.invalid...

> Oh AUNTIE. You really are IMPOSSIBLE!! I have told You a
> Thousand Times to take more care before accusing people,
> and Mrs Blovius is also a close Friend of dear Algernon's
> Mother (I do hope He will not be too angry). She has more
> than enough to put up with from that beastly Husband, without
> You accusing Her of Deception. I think You should apologise
> at once.
>
> Please forgive Her, dear Readers. I did tell Her the Bicycle
> was not worth repairing, and Daddy has even said He will
> buy Her a new one for Christmas, but She still wouldn't listen
> until She had not only called upon the Wisdom of the Internet
> but also dragged the poor dear Colonel down to the Outhouse
> to inspect the Damage. She is just so headstrong!

This person is an impostor. I do not have a niece called Daphne, I do
not know anybody called Algernon, or any Colonel. My brother has been
dead these three years. It should be clear to anyone that this person
is not making any sense, quite apart from not knowing how to
capitalise correctly, and is probably German.

Cannot we all just talk about cycling Isn't that what this mailing
list is for?

Yours in frustration,

N. Lenderby (Mrs)


Nora Lenderby

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<john__...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> In article <906deg$h6o$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> "Nora Lenderby" <Nora_L...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "Gertrude Blovius" <gertrud...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:905jbn$u49$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > You should be ashamed of yourself!
> >
> > N. Lenderby (Mrs)
>
> Your alter-egos are showing baby! You are all Scott Munn, AICMFP.
> (Very entertaining, btw!)
> --
> John Laird

How absurd! I most certainly am not Scott Munn, and I am beginning to
suspect that all of his messages to this mailing list have been
forgeries. I'm sure he has much better things to do with his time than
waste it talking about anything, it seems, except bicycles.

I don't find it entertaining in the least!

N. Lenderby (Mrs)


Nora Lenderby

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Nov 30, 2000, 9:58:06 PM11/30/00
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"Nora Lenderby" <Nora_L...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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p.s. I dread to think what ICMFP is supposed to mean, but it is
clearly not something polite people would want to hear. How dare you!

N. Lenderby (Mrs)


lardychap

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Dec 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/1/00
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In article <906eic$m0e$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>,

"Nora Lenderby" <Nora_L...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Nora Lenderby" <Nora_L...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:906b9v$jlm$3...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > "lardychap" <gareth_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:905ecu$qeu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > BTW: Did you get your frame unbended/unbent/fixed?
>
> p.s. By the way, what is 'BTW' please?
>
>

BTW = By the Way.

HTH.

G

Clive George

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Dec 2, 2000, 8:30:57 PM12/2/00
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>Now give me a good reason
>for a QR seat post clamp if you don't share the bike with other people?

being able to remove the seat/handlebars from one of our tandems makes it go
on the roof easier. or the other one goes inside if i take off the back
seat. (and front wheel, and take the car apart a bit, and...). and qr makes
it just that bit easier.
well i think they are good reasons for me, just possibly not for anyone
else!

cheers,
clive

Peter B

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Clive George <cl...@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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or the other one goes inside if i take off the back
> seat. (and front wheel, and take the car apart a bit, and...). and qr
makes
> it just that bit easier.

Can't fault that Clive :-)
Which reminds me of another reason I like QR wheels...makes it easier to put
bikes in cars.

Pete.

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