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'Self-driving' technology doesn't stop car crashing into dummy cyclist five times during safety testing
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swldx...@gmail.com
May 16, 2022, 6:15:12 AM5/16/22
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An assisted driving system installed in a Subaru car failed to detect a dummy cyclist during testing by the American Automobile Association.
The Subaru Forester, equipped with the manufacturer's EyeSight driver assist technology did not react to a simulated bicycle rider five times under test conditions, and also failed to detect or slow to avoid a dummy vehicle during a simulated head-on collision, Reuters (link is external) reports.
The other assisted driving technologies tested, a Tesla Model 3 and Hyundai Santa Fe, both detected and braked to avoid collision with the dummy cyclist crossing their paths.
In another test, all three avoided a dummy vehicle and cyclist travelling in the same direction as their assisted driver technology cars.
Subaru spokesperson Dominick Infante told the new website that the brand would be looking into the AAA test to better understand the methodology, and said he currently does not have a detailed response, but insisted Subaru has improved its EyeSight driving system for the 2022 Forester.
Subaru's EyeSight (link is external) uses cameras to monitor traffic movement and warns drivers if they sway out of their lane. It also offers pre-collision braking and throttle control and, in some models, cruise control which monitors the vehicle in front and maintains distance by adapting the driver's speed.
All three systems tested failed to avoid head-on collisions with dummy vehicles, prompting the AAA to conclude that current assisted driving technologies do not meet the standard of true autonomous driving.
In the AAA's test, each vehicle was put through four scenarios, including overtaking a dummy car travelling in the same direction as the test vehicle, overtaking a dummy cyclist travelling in the same direction, a 25mph head-on collision course with a dummy car, and avoiding a dummy cyclist crossing their path.
The dummy cyclist travelling in the same direction test and dummy vehicle travelling in the same direction test, were both successfully passed by all three vehicles.
However, the Hyundai and Subaru models did not appear to detect or react to avoid the dummy vehicle in a simulated head-on collision. The AAA said the Tesla Model 3 slowed to 3.2 miles per hour, but still collided with the oncoming dummy car.
Tesla has not commented on the study, while Hyundai said it "is reviewing the findings in AAA's report as part of our ongoing commitment to customer safety."
https://road.cc/content/news/self-driving-car-crashes-dummy-cyclist-292791
The Subaru Forester, equipped with the manufacturer's EyeSight driver assist technology did not react to a simulated bicycle rider five times under test conditions, and also failed to detect or slow to avoid a dummy vehicle during a simulated head-on collision, Reuters (link is external) reports.
The other assisted driving technologies tested, a Tesla Model 3 and Hyundai Santa Fe, both detected and braked to avoid collision with the dummy cyclist crossing their paths.
In another test, all three avoided a dummy vehicle and cyclist travelling in the same direction as their assisted driver technology cars.
Subaru spokesperson Dominick Infante told the new website that the brand would be looking into the AAA test to better understand the methodology, and said he currently does not have a detailed response, but insisted Subaru has improved its EyeSight driving system for the 2022 Forester.
Subaru's EyeSight (link is external) uses cameras to monitor traffic movement and warns drivers if they sway out of their lane. It also offers pre-collision braking and throttle control and, in some models, cruise control which monitors the vehicle in front and maintains distance by adapting the driver's speed.
All three systems tested failed to avoid head-on collisions with dummy vehicles, prompting the AAA to conclude that current assisted driving technologies do not meet the standard of true autonomous driving.
In the AAA's test, each vehicle was put through four scenarios, including overtaking a dummy car travelling in the same direction as the test vehicle, overtaking a dummy cyclist travelling in the same direction, a 25mph head-on collision course with a dummy car, and avoiding a dummy cyclist crossing their path.
The dummy cyclist travelling in the same direction test and dummy vehicle travelling in the same direction test, were both successfully passed by all three vehicles.
However, the Hyundai and Subaru models did not appear to detect or react to avoid the dummy vehicle in a simulated head-on collision. The AAA said the Tesla Model 3 slowed to 3.2 miles per hour, but still collided with the oncoming dummy car.
Tesla has not commented on the study, while Hyundai said it "is reviewing the findings in AAA's report as part of our ongoing commitment to customer safety."
https://road.cc/content/news/self-driving-car-crashes-dummy-cyclist-292791
Mike Collins
May 16, 2022, 7:15:01 AM5/16/22
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Spike
May 16, 2022, 7:56:57 AM5/16/22
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On 16/05/2022 10:15, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> An assisted driving system installed in a Subaru car failed to detect a dummy cyclist during testing by the American Automobile Association.
Suggestions:
> An assisted driving system installed in a Subaru car failed to detect a dummy cyclist during testing by the American Automobile Association.
Send it on a Driver Awareness Course
12 points on its licence
A year's ban
An extended test
And, of course...JAIL TIME
YKIMS
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Spike
swldx...@gmail.com
May 16, 2022, 8:34:46 AM5/16/22
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QUOTE: However, the Hyundai and Subaru models did not appear to detect or react to avoid the dummy vehicle in a simulated head-on collision. The AAA said the Tesla Model 3 slowed to 3.2 miles per hour, but still collided with the oncoming dummy car. ENDS
If they can't even detect something the size of a car, what chance to animals and children have?
If they can't even detect something the size of a car, what chance to animals and children have?
Spike
May 16, 2022, 10:38:55 AM5/16/22
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On 16/05/2022 11:15, Mike Collins wrote:
> It has always amazed me how motorists manage to see such cyclists but cannot see those who are correctly using that roads lit up [SIC] like a knocking shop on payday.
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Spike
> It has always amazed me how motorists manage to see such cyclists but cannot see those who are correctly using that roads lit up [SIC] like a knocking shop on payday.
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Spike
swldx...@gmail.com
May 16, 2022, 12:07:18 PM5/16/22
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On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 12:15:01 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
> The cars were programmed by a motorist. Motorists cannot see cyclists unless they are unlit, wearing darks clothing and riding through a red light at night. It has always amazed me how motorists manage to see such cyclists but cannot see those who are correctly using that roads lit up like a knocking shop on payday.
"The invisible cyclist was wearing dark green trousers, a dark blue jacket, dark red socks, dark brown shoes, a dark grey hat and he had Sennheiser earpieces in, but I was blinded by the low Sun.
> The cars were programmed by a motorist. Motorists cannot see cyclists unless they are unlit, wearing darks clothing and riding through a red light at night. It has always amazed me how motorists manage to see such cyclists but cannot see those who are correctly using that roads lit up like a knocking shop on payday.
JNugent
May 16, 2022, 12:11:47 PM5/16/22
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On 16/05/2022 11:15 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> An assisted driving system installed in a Subaru car failed to detect a dummy fairy-cyclist during testing by the American Automobile Association.
How do you expect it to tell the difference?
> An assisted driving system installed in a Subaru car failed to detect a dummy fairy-cyclist during testing by the American Automobile Association.
How do you expect it to tell the difference?
swldx...@gmail.com
May 16, 2022, 12:26:16 PM5/16/22
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On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 12:15:01 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
Motorists cannot see cyclists unless they are unlit, wearing dark clothing and riding through a red light at night.
The late "Mr Cheerful" used to see hundreds of them despite insisting that cycling was so unpopular that he never saw any at all.
Mike Collins
May 17, 2022, 6:41:02 AM5/17/22
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