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C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL

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Mar 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/31/96
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If you are not using silk (and you can get heavy silks, you know) you
might well be better with a fabric paint, not a specific silk paint.

Silk paint is sort of supposed to spread on the silk, up to the special
'gutta' used for the outlines. A lot of silk painting techniques seem
to rely on this spreading. I don't think it will do it properly on
other fabrics - not on cotton anyway. I've tried the salt technique on
other fabrics with various paints and it's never as interesting as on
silk.

Just my thoughts, I don't claim to be an expert, I just do both silk
and other fabric painting sometimes.

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Anne.L.F.Zorner

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Apr 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/1/96
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"C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL" <craf...@kenelise.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>If you are not using silk (and you can get heavy silks, you know) you
>might well be better with a fabric paint, not a specific silk paint.
>
>Silk paint is sort of supposed to spread on the silk, up to the special
>'gutta' used for the outlines. A lot of silk painting techniques seem
>to rely on this spreading. I don't think it will do it properly on
>other fabrics - not on cotton anyway. I've tried the salt technique on
>other fabrics with various paints and it's never as interesting as on
>silk.
>
I think I would agree, also there is a difference in take up
of paint between man made and natural fibers. Dyes are often
made specifically for particular fabrics.
>
I have used the tri-chem paints very satisfactorily on other types
of fabric though. But they tend to sit on the top of the fabric rather than
getting into the actual fibers like some silk paints appear to.
I also found that silk paint washes out of some fabrics even after
fixing.
Anne


Liza Wright

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Apr 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/1/96
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In article <315dd2e3...@194.159.0.19>, Stephanie Peters
<bj...@cityscape.co.uk> writes
>A question for all the silk painters out there: can you paint on other
>fabrics? I have an idea for a picture where a fabric background would
>be better than paper (hides the ends from bobbin lace) but I would not
>use silk. A slightly heavier fabric would be better to hide the ends.

Hi Steph,
I have done quite a lot of silk painting and recently I decided to try
other fabrics, I wanted to use them as a background to embroidery,
ordinary silk does not hide ends very well, as you say, and heavy silk
is expensive. I have only tried 100% natural fabrics, cotton, cotton
Aida, and linen. I had read that the silk dye would "take" on these but
probably not so well as on silk. However, I found the intensity of
colour was still very good. I'm doing landscapes so it does not matter
if the colours merge into one another, I don't think you could use gutta
to get firm edges but I haven't tried. Maybe on thinner cotton you
could. I found I got a better effect if I wet the fabric first as this
helped the paint to spread more easily, you would have to experiment to
see what works best for you. If you have a hair-drier handy you can stop
the spreading when you think it's gone far enough. I am very happy with
the results. I use the iron setting water based type of dye, Deka-Silk
and silk paint from the "Painting on Silk Company".

Hope this helps, good luck and let us know how you get on!
All the best,
Liza Wright.
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Lesley Wright

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Apr 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/2/96
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In article <453467...@kenelise.demon.co.uk> "C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL" <craf...@kenelise.demon.co.uk> writes:
>From: "C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL" <craf...@kenelise.demon.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: 'Silk' painting
>Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:15:45 GMT

>If you are not using silk (and you can get heavy silks, you know) you
>might well be better with a fabric paint, not a specific silk paint.

A friend of mine sells Tri-Chem fabric paints, and she achieves some really
good effects with them (there are all sorts from basic paints to glittery
ones, pearly ones, stencil paints etc etc and they're all washable). They
work on just about anything except shiny plastic, including wood!

Lesley

Liza Wright

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Apr 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/3/96
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Sorry if you're seeing this a second time. I posted it a couple of days
ago but I have not seen it appear. My ISP is having problems with "a
small but significant number of lost articles" so maybe mine was one of
them. :-(

Stephanie Peters

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Apr 7, 1996, 4:00:00 AM4/7/96
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Thanks to everyone who replied to me on this. I didn't even know
there were paints for other fabrics, seems like the most promising way
to go. I want to do a landscape, desert as a background for one of
those tall cacti that I can make out of bobbin lace. Does anyone
fancy a collaboration on this one, as I am not sure I want to purchase
a lot of materials and equipment for just one picture? email me if
you are interested - we could make one each of similar pictures, or I
could make something for you in some other craft if you like.

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