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Gore-Tex vs Triple Point Ceramic: any comments?

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Jo Mellor

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Dec 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/22/99
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I am about to buy a mountaineering waterproof and have narrowed the
choice down to a Goretex jacket or a Lowe Alpine Triple Point Ceramic
jacket. Money's not too much of an option so long as what I get is
worth what I spent on it, and it has to be heavy duty enough to stand
Scottish winters and Alpine summers for a good few years to come.

At the risk of starting a mass argument...Anyone care to compare and
contrast, or share any experiences of either fabric?

All advice gratefully received.

Thanks,

Jo

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accord

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Dec 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/25/99
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I am currently using a Lowe Alpine Triple Point Ceramic Jacket.It saw
ma through last winter,all summer and will be doing the rounds again
this winter.It gets used for both climbing and walking and as I live
only an hour/1 1/2 hours drive from upper deeside it sees most of its
action in the cairngorms.I have absolutely nothing bad to say about the
jacket at all-I'd buy another but that won't be needed for sometime yet.


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Adam Skerritt

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Dec 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/27/99
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Hi,
I have worn Gore-Tex in the past and never had any problem. But I am now
wearing a Lowe Apline FLash jacket for the past12 months and find it
excellent. The fabric seams to breathe very well also even when wet, this
particular jacket is brilliant (Imho) and has stood up to everything I have
thrown at it , including winter climbing. As for Lowes Service well they
will replace any item of trhe triple point range for the life time of the
user, and I even know one guy who ripped a hole in his jacket whilst
climbing then sent it back for repairs and was sent a brand new one instead!
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Martin Wells

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Dec 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/27/99
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Come on, we all know the answer is Buffalo ! And with the money you save
you can afford a few more climbing trips.

Peter Clinch

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Dec 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/29/99
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Adam Skerritt wrote:
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> Hi,
> I have worn Gore-Tex in the past and never had any problem. But I am now
> wearing a Lowe Apline FLash jacket for the past12 months and find it
> excellent. The fabric seams to breathe very well also even when wet, this
> particular jacket is brilliant (Imho) and has stood up to everything I have
> thrown at it , including winter climbing. As for Lowes Service well they
> will replace any item of trhe triple point range for the life time of the
> user, and I even know one guy who ripped a hole in his jacket whilst
> climbing then sent it back for repairs and was sent a brand new one instead!

The guarantee is actually for the useful lifetime of the *product*, not
the user, and does *not* cover ware and tear. As it happens I have a
similar story to the above with a rucksack harness that was ripped off
in an accident that was entirely my own fault that Lowe replaced free,
but their guarantee does not in any way *oblige* then to do that. Read
the fine print again.

Back to the selection, I have a TPC jacket and have found it broadly
comparable in terms of fabric performance to goretex I've used. I'd
select your jacket on features and, most of all, fit, rather than worry
about the fabric. Both are good on that score, though not perfect. My
primary caveats with Lowe's range is most are lined, which I don't like,
and they don't have wired peaks, which I do like. But your mileage may
vary.

Pete.
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Peter Clinch University of Dundee
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Adam Skerritt

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Dec 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/31/99
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Sorry about my typo, I did actually mean the "product " not "user" lifetime.
As for the wired peaks well the "Flash "jacket does have a wired peak, I am
not too sure about the rest of their range though.
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Hairball

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Jan 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/1/00
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Jo Mellor <joa...@uk.ibm.comABC> wrote in message
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> I am about to buy a mountaineering waterproof and have narrowed the
> choice down to a Goretex jacket or a Lowe Alpine Triple Point Ceramic
> jacket. Money's not too much of an option so long as what I get is
> worth what I spent on it, and it has to be heavy duty enough to stand
> Scottish winters and Alpine summers for a good few years to come.
>
> At the risk of starting a mass argument...Anyone care to compare and
> contrast, or share any experiences of either fabric?

My original serious mountain jacket was a Gortex. This worked brilliantly
for three years then failed quite spectacularly going from waterproof to not
even remotely water proof very quickly. I sent it back to Gortex who
reproofed it (to no effect) but wouldn't exchange it as they said it was
"too old" for the "life time" guarantee to cover it (?). After that I tried
a vango jacket which lasted only one season and I am now on a Lowe Alpine
Triple Point which has lasted me two seasons so far and still works very
well. As it also cost less than the Gortex I would chose triple point
everytime if it were a choice between two similar jackets.

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