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T4 transporter not starting, V. confused. Please help!

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mball

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Sep 3, 2007, 3:27:21 PM9/3/07
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My VW T4 Transporter has began refusing to start. When I turn the key in
the ignition nothing happens whatsoever. All the dash lights come on and
the coil light goes out after the right sort of time but the engine isn't
turning at all. There had been problems with the battery to starter motor
cable in the past so I've replaced that but still nothing. Does anyone
have any ideas as to what could be causing this? Any help would be hugely
appreciated.
Cheers

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JB

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Sep 3, 2007, 3:50:07 PM9/3/07
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"mball" <mikeb...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> My VW T4 Transporter has began refusing to start. When I turn the key in
> the ignition nothing happens whatsoever. All the dash lights come on and
> the coil light goes out after the right sort of time but the engine isn't
> turning at all. There had been problems with the battery to starter motor
> cable in the past so I've replaced that but still nothing. Does anyone
> have any ideas as to what could be causing this? Any help would be hugely
> appreciated.
> Cheers
>
Earth strap from body to engine/gbox? Starter solenoid?
Any sounds of clicking when you turn the key to start?

JB


mball

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Sep 3, 2007, 4:23:30 PM9/3/07
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Cheers, I'll look into those. There's one quiet click initially when I turn
the key but nothing at all after that. Could the broken starter cable have
caused any damage to the other cable that runs into the starter?

JB

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Sep 3, 2007, 6:00:07 PM9/3/07
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"mball" <mikeb...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Cheers, I'll look into those. There's one quiet click initially when I
> turn
> the key but nothing at all after that. Could the broken starter cable have
> caused any damage to the other cable that runs into the starter?
> Cheers
>
Doubtful any damage caused.
Also the ignition switch can cause such problems too..
JB


SFC

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Sep 4, 2007, 5:42:21 AM9/4/07
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Look also at the (big) fuse connections. They are usally placed in a
seperate fusebox on the inner fender.

Had about the same problem and just tightning one fuse fixed it!

SFC

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Al

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Sep 4, 2007, 6:15:18 AM9/4/07
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> My VW T4 Transporter has began refusing to start.

Had exactly the same problem a while ago. Replace the relay with a big
'18' on top of it (it's in the fusebox to the right of the steeering
column).

Mine was clicking but not making contact, so didn't fire the starter
solonoid.

Dunno how much they cost as I had a couple of spare ones in my Big Box Of
Bits :-)

Al.

mball

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Sep 4, 2007, 2:55:55 PM9/4/07
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Thanks a lot for the help guys. I think I'll try the relay option first as
I guess it's probably the cheapest.

inka

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Mar 18, 2009, 4:04:55 PM3/18/09
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I have same problem! Ones I turn the key it’s clicks but will not start if try for some time it’s starts!
I just don’t know what to do now? I have opened my starter motor and it’s just fine looks like new connections right too battery good as well……..But will not starts!
HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee

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JB

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Mar 18, 2009, 6:30:20 PM3/18/09
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"inka" <nex...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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I have same problem! Ones I turn the key it's clicks but will not start if
try for some time it's starts!
I just don't know what to do now? I have opened my starter motor and it's
just fine looks like new connections right too battery good as well....But
will not starts!
HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee


Is the engine actually turning over when you turn the key to the start
position? If so the problem may be the immobiliser. The transponder is in
the key itself and it is 'detected'/recognised by a coil (a black plastic
moulded ring around the base of the lock assembly. If you remove the plastic
cover around the ignition lock you can see this coil. Do you have any other
keys you can try? The transponder may have failed so you wont get the engine
to start.
Another possible fault could be air in the fuel. Look at the fuel delivery
line from the filter to the injection pump. There is a clear section, so if
you see nay bubbles in the fuel, you know you have an air leak. It should be
easy to find.
If the engine is not turning over when you turn the key, do you see the
orange light for the heater plugs illuminate and then go out after a few
seconds? If not, I'd suggest your ignition switch itself may be faulty. I
had this fault on my old T4.
Let us know how you get on.
Also try over on the VWT4 forum: www.vwt4forum.co.uk
JB


inka

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Mar 18, 2009, 8:04:22 PM3/18/09
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My Van NOT starting at all!

It’s all start 2 month ago ones I turn the Key it’s starts at second attempt, and after all it’s gone worst…………………( Some time I have to Push my VAN by my self to start motor! Some time it’s starts with out any problems)

After turning KEY all light comes as usual and when CLICK and nothing happens.
I have opened my Starter Motor and checked it’s work just perfect, the brushes and the rest just fine!

I have checked battery and connections.

Dear Member Please Help !!! really need Advice !!!

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inka

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Mar 19, 2009, 11:34:52 AM3/19/09
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JB You were right mate! it's IGNITION SWITCH,

I just come from VW-CordWollis Centre. They straight saying that is “IGNITION SWITCH” £22 for new one. Fixing will cost me £150+£22+VAT…………………That is too much. How can I change my self?


Please Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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JB

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Mar 19, 2009, 1:49:04 PM3/19/09
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"inka" <nex...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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JB You were right mate! it's IGNITION SWITCH,

I just come from VW-CordWollis Centre. They straight saying that is
"IGNITION SWITCH" £22 for new one. Fixing will cost me

£150+£22+VAT.......That is too much. How can I change my self?


The ignition switch is mounted to the steering column with shear-head bolts.
You will have to drill these out or grind the heads off the old ones with a
Dremel. You may even be able to get them to turn with a hammer and sharp
centre-punch. That is the only thing you need to do. It's not complicated,
just fiddly.
Note: Be careful with the grinder. You don't want to damage anything other
component!

And one more thing: Buy yourself a workshop manual from eBay.

JB


inka

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Mar 19, 2009, 2:51:52 PM3/19/09
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I have just FIX myself the IGNITION SWITCH into my Van!!!!!!! I think it's
starts just fine! No problems at all! I just hope........... ( Ignition
Switch change was easy......But one funny Screw which is blocking from main
frame.... You just need a small screw driver or just flat crew driver
unbolting little by little. By the way it's my mate done His Mongolian man
Zunaaa Mmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnn.

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Chris Bartram

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Mar 20, 2009, 4:50:39 AM3/20/09
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If it's like other VWs, you can just remove the ignition barrel and
switch from the housing. You have to drill a small hole in the housing
to remove the barrel, then the switch can be removed. I've done it on a
Mk2 Golf.

Alim Cader

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May 31, 2010, 7:08:47 AM5/31/10
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My VW T4 Transporter has began refusing to start. When I turn the key in
the ignition nothing happens whatsoever. All the dash lights come on and
the coil light goes out after the right sort of time but the engine isn't
turning at all. There had been problems with the battery to starter motor
cable in the past so I've replaced that but still nothing. Does anyone
have any ideas as to what could be causing this? Any help would be hugely
appreciated.
Cheers

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krak

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May 31, 2010, 8:18:02 AM5/31/10
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Is the battery good? How old is it? It might have enough power to spin
the lights up but simply not enough to turn the motor over. Have you
tried jump cables? What happens then?

Tobias

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Jun 1, 2010, 7:32:27 AM6/1/10
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"krak" <kr...@mail.ru> wrote in message
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There is normally a pre-engagement solenoid attached on the side of the
starter motor main body. Solenoid engages a gear on the end of the starter
motor shaft and also completes the circuit for the starter motor coils once
the gear is fully engaged with the starter ring on the clutch plate.

If any of these steps do not occur, for whatever reason, engine will not
turn.

You may hear click as solenoid tries to engage - may indicate jammed gear,
or burnt out starter motor main coil contacts etc.

You need to check starter switch is supplying a signal to the starter
solenoid initially, then adopt a logical sequence based on a knowledge of
the correct operating sequence, as outlined above.

Cost of replacement from GSF, if needed (diesel 2.5) approx �100


krak

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Jun 4, 2010, 8:14:01 AM6/4/10
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So did it start?

Rodney Charles Rich

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Jan 12, 2012, 6:54:54 PM1/12/12
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Hi there I had the same problem with my transporter.
I dropped the engine sheild below and cleaned the two connections to the
starter and then reconnected them and give a good tightened.
Hey presto it started and has run ever since.

Before I replaced the sheild I coverec the connections in copper slip to
prevent further corrossion.

If this does not work it could be the ignition switch or the commutator in
the starter corrodding in one point.

hpope this helps Rocker

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oxa...@gmail.com

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Nov 27, 2014, 9:34:16 AM11/27/14
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One evening drove my T4 a short distanc and came back two hours later. It wouldn't start. Just like this. Lights and the glow plug light switching off, but just a faint click and nothing. Tried jump leads, rocking the van in gear. had to leave it overnight.

Next morning a passing Samaritan said, "Hit the solenoid with a hammer."
"We've done that", we said.
"You didn't hit it hard enough"
WHACK
Engine roars into life.

kevint...@gmail.com

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Jun 30, 2020, 5:18:47 AM6/30/20
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Where did you buy this relay csnt find it or is it called something else on tbe shelf. Cheers.
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