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Corsa C fuel filter pipe joints?

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T i m

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Sep 4, 2012, 4:30:21 AM9/4/12
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Hi All,

Daughters 01 Corsa C (175k) had a fuel smell / leak and it turned out
to be the joints where the fuel pipe joins the fuel filter (by the
fuel tank). Mate in the garage felt he had sorted it with some
'special sealant' (he did try to get the car back to her quickly etc)
but did say we should keep an eye on it.

Well, a good few months later we have a small leak again and assuming
it's the same fault, what can we do to resolve it easily please?

I ask / that because I believe to do the job 'officially' might need
replacement of both the plastic(?) pipes that go to the filter and one
goes to the top of the tank and the other that probably goes right up
to the engine making them fairly awkward to replace?

Could you (say) cut off the plastic end joints / clips that connect to
the filter (that I believe can be the cause of the issue, being
difficult to undo / remove when old etc) and either replace it with an
alternative 'in-line' filter / rubber hose / coupling or bypass the
filter in that position and put it elsewhere please?

Cheers, T i m

Mrcheerful

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Sep 4, 2012, 5:05:48 AM9/4/12
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Some garages will have a repair kit, pierburg make them. But I dare say you
could probably make a repair using suitable hose and clips. I would leave
the filter in its original location, any leaks will be away from hot engine.


T i m

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Sep 4, 2012, 6:10:47 AM9/4/12
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:05:48 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
<g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


>> Could you (say) cut off the plastic end joints / clips that connect to
>> the filter (that I believe can be the cause of the issue, being
>> difficult to undo / remove when old etc) and either replace it with an
>> alternative 'in-line' filter / rubber hose / coupling or bypass the
>> filter in that position and put it elsewhere please?

>
>Some garages will have a repair kit, pierburg make them.

Ah, right (thanks). So, should any decent motor factors stock them (or
maybe get them in for us)?

>But I dare say you
>could probably make a repair using suitable hose and clips.

I wasn't sure if such 'repairs' would be sanctioned / MOT'able etc?

>I would leave
>the filter in its original location, any leaks will be away from hot engine.

Ah, good point. ;-)

So, would we continue with the existing filter with this 'repair kit'
would you know or maybe it comes with one?

Cheers, T i m.

p.s. I've just phoned Pierburg UK and they don't seem to be aware of a
kit as such? Would you have a description or maybe it was just their
supplied filter and some hoses as you suggest?

http://www.partinfo.co.uk/docs?supplier=Pierburg&type=Service+Information

Mrcheerful

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Sep 4, 2012, 6:19:09 AM9/4/12
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As long as it doesn't leak then it should pass the MoT
The repair kit has new end connectors and various bits to connect to the
existing pipe.
There may be other makes, but Pierburg was the first one I could locate on
the net. I imagine that motor factors and people like snap on carry them, I
don't have a kit, but a friend does, but I have not noticed the make or
asked where he got it, I can investigate when I go to see him on Friday.

pierburg part number here plus description and pictures.
http://www.ms-motor-service.com/ximages/pg_pi_1050_en_web.pdf


T i m

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Sep 4, 2012, 6:36:57 AM9/4/12
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:19:09 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
<g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


>> p.s. I've just phoned Pierburg UK and they don't seem to be aware of a
>> kit as such? Would you have a description or maybe it was just their
>> supplied filter and some hoses as you suggest?
>>
>> http://www.partinfo.co.uk/docs?supplier=Pierburg&type=Service+Information
>
>As long as it doesn't leak then it should pass the MoT

Ok, thanks for establishing that. I knew the MOT was getting
'stricter' these days and wasn't sure if such things were covered to a
greater depth.

>The repair kit has new end connectors and various bits to connect to the
>existing pipe.

Ah. Not a kit for that model in particular. Gotcha. ;-)

>There may be other makes, but Pierburg was the first one I could locate on
>the net. I imagine that motor factors and people like snap on carry them, I
>don't have a kit, but a friend does, but I have not noticed the make or
>asked where he got it, I can investigate when I go to see him on Friday.

Ok, thanks very much.
>
>pierburg part number here plus description and pictures.
>http://www.ms-motor-service.com/ximages/pg_pi_1050_en_web.pdf
>

Brilliant, thanks. It looks like it might be one of those things where
you use up a couple of bits all the time (like the pipe connector /
clips) and the rest just sits there.

But hey, if it's not too expensive and does the job ... ;-)

Cheers and thanks again.

T i m

p.s. Yesterday I turned up a nylon insert / leg to replace the
original fixing for the o/s lower door handle on her Corsa. I
suggested we look for something at the breakers (probably a whole door
card / inner) but she said 'Can't you make something'. As she did
dinner I thought it rude not to. ;-)

T i m

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Sep 4, 2012, 7:48:52 PM9/4/12
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:19:09 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
<g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:



>The repair kit has new end connectors and various bits to connect to the
>existing pipe.

Update. We had another look in better light and it 'looks' like it
might not be leaking again from the connectors but somewhere higher up
on the tank?

We removed the access cover under the rear seat to expose the top of
the tank and that was ok so it's either the tank itself or one of the
pipes leading down from the top (so we still might need a repair kit).
;-)

He said he would pop it on the 4 poster on Friday and see if he can
see where it's leaking from with his endoscope.

However, I think it might only leak when the pump is running so is it
more likely to be a hose than the tank in that case?

Cheers, T i m

Peter Hill

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Sep 5, 2012, 3:11:19 AM9/5/12
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Or it may only leak when the tank is full.

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Mrcheerful

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Sep 5, 2012, 3:25:49 AM9/5/12
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A leaking corsa came in a few weeks ago, the breather pipe from the back of
the tank to the filler pipe had cracked up at both ends, a piece of metro
heater hose fixed it, and it has been moted since.

and yes it only showed up with a full tank or when it sloshed about.


Tony Houghton

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Sep 5, 2012, 9:17:58 AM9/5/12
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In <%8D1s.195220$lB3.1...@fx23.am4>,
Mrcheerful <g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> A leaking corsa came in a few weeks ago, the breather pipe from the back of
> the tank to the filler pipe had cracked up at both ends, a piece of metro
> heater hose fixed it, and it has been moted since.

Is heater hose antifreeze-resistant and therefore also petrol-resistant?
If you use any old hose petrol is likely to dissolve it.

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Mrcheerful

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Sep 5, 2012, 11:15:05 AM9/5/12
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If it had not been a Sunday when it turned up I would probably have just
ordered the right hose.
I have seen the car a few months after for its mot and it was still fine,
the original pipe was not exactly ideal, so this bit can hardly be much
worse.


Chris Whelan

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Sep 5, 2012, 2:55:52 PM9/5/12
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To be fair, it's a breather, so most of the time it won't be in direct
contact with liquid fuel, only vapour.

Chris

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T i m

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Sep 5, 2012, 5:27:22 PM9/5/12
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 08:11:19 +0100, Peter Hill
<peter....@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:


>> He said he would pop it on the 4 poster on Friday and see if he can
>> see where it's leaking from with his endoscope.
>>
>> However, I think it might only leak when the pump is running so is it
>> more likely to be a hose than the tank in that case?
>>
>>
>Or it may only leak when the tank is full.

I did suggest she didn't fill it up for a while as I was thinking
along the same lines. Difficult to know if it's because the fuel is
sloshing about or because the pump is running. I guess if she runs it
but doesn't move it, that should show what's what?

Cheers, T i m

T i m

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Sep 5, 2012, 5:33:12 PM9/5/12
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On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:25:49 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
<g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


>A leaking corsa came in a few weeks ago, the breather pipe from the back of
>the tank to the filler pipe had cracked up at both ends, a piece of metro
>heater hose fixed it, and it has been moted since.

So the breather is at the back of the tank you say? This seems to be
leaking down the o/s of the tank, directly behind the pump? I suppose
a pinhole type leak on the joint could be spraying fuel at the tank
and make it look like it's leaking from the tank?
>
>and yes it only showed up with a full tank or when it sloshed about.
>

Hmm. I'll get her to run it but not move it and see what happens.

Cheers, T i m

T i m

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Sep 5, 2012, 5:33:55 PM9/5/12
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;-)

Cheers, T i m

Mrcheerful

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Sep 6, 2012, 3:14:23 AM9/6/12
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the breather is in the centre rear, I doubt whether it would leak to the
right.


T i m

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Sep 8, 2012, 7:22:26 AM9/8/12
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They managed to get the car up on the 4 poster on Friday and from what
they could see with the borescope, it looks like it's coming from one
of the pipes from the tank to the filter (there seems to be a 'Y'
joint on the input side of the filter so I'm not sure what both pipes
do)?

I also have a PC based borescope so I might try it on a laptop have a
look round one evening to see if I can see exactly where (without
having to drop the tank etc).

Cheers, T i m

justic...@gmail.com

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Apr 4, 2018, 7:14:13 AM4/4/18
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I got Corsa utility 2007 is leaking petrol on top of the tank, first I thought was my joints on top from the fuel pump to the filter then I changed the tank and the pump but still leaking, help please

MrCheerful

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Apr 4, 2018, 9:16:09 AM4/4/18
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On 04/04/2018 12:14, justic...@gmail.com wrote:
> I got Corsa utility 2007 is leaking petrol on top of the tank, first I thought was my joints on top from the fuel pump to the filter then I changed the tank and the pump but still leaking, help please
>

The pipes have push fit ends where they join the sender unit in the top
of the tank, if they leak you need new pipes.
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