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Fred

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Jan 12, 2012, 11:22:24 AM1/12/12
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Hi,

I bought a 60 plate Mondeo from a Ford dealer in November 2011. I've
noticed the number plates, both front and back, are peeling. The best
way I can describe it is as if there is "cling film" peeling off the
number plate.

I tried phoning the dealer to see whether they might change them free
of charge considering I've only recently bought the car but I'm
waiting for a reply.

I've only washed the car once or twice! But I did use a pressure
washer the one time. I don't remember standing particularly close or
lingering over the same spot but could this have caused it?

What's the best thing to do: new plates? Or should I just scrape the
damaged layer off and leave the old ones on?

If I get new plates, what are the best sort to buy? I hear there are
different types but I know nothing about them.

TIA
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Dave Plowman (News)

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Jan 12, 2012, 11:54:34 AM1/12/12
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In article <xn0ht0jr...@news.individual.net>,
Paul - xxx <notchec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Just peel it off .. it's a cling-film type cover to protect the plate
> until after it's fitted. I dare bet the plates look blueish, many do.

> The protection is usually removed by the dealer, attention to detail is
> a 'good thing', unless you notice they aren't attending to it, as in
> this case!

Are you certain? The plates are (or were) made up using a clear outer
layer. Which can start lifting.

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rp

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Jan 12, 2012, 12:06:49 PM1/12/12
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:54:34 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

>> Just peel it off .. it's a cling-film type cover to protect the plate
>> until after it's fitted. I dare bet the plates look blueish, many do.
>
>> The protection is usually removed by the dealer, attention to detail is
>> a 'good thing', unless you notice they aren't attending to it, as in
>> this case!
>
>Are you certain? The plates are (or were) made up using a clear outer
>layer. Which can start lifting.

I think if it's stiffish it's the protective layer and part of the
plate. The cling film type protective layer should be very flexible,
like a thickish plastic bag.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Jan 12, 2012, 1:22:55 PM1/12/12
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In article <ecbagvasbuvgsfargp...@ouse.infohit.me.uk>,
rp <r.p...@infohit.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> >Are you certain? The plates are (or were) made up using a clear outer
> >layer. Which can start lifting.

> I think if it's stiffish it's the protective layer and part of the
> plate. The cling film type protective layer should be very flexible,
> like a thickish plastic bag.

The stuff they come in just for protection is usually coloured. So pretty
obviously has to be removed before use.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Jan 12, 2012, 1:55:15 PM1/12/12
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In article <xn0ht0m7...@news.individual.net>,
Paul - xxx <notchec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Are you certain? The plates are (or were) made up using a clear outer
> > layer. Which can start lifting.

> Pretty much. The clear perspex plate won't 'peel' .. it can
> de-laminate perhaps, but not peel, OP described using the words
> 'cling-film' ..

I've watched them being made up - in the past. The plate is perspex, but
the letters are just laid on top and held in place by a clear film. You
can actually feel the letters through the covering. But they may be
different now.

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snot

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Jan 12, 2012, 5:21:06 PM1/12/12
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A new number plate for my bike was made with a plastic sheet laminated
on top of the letters. The first came loose after being fiddled with
(*cough*) and had to be replaced. Dealer said that they have to be made
like that now "'cos the regulations have changed".
Dave
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Dave Plowman (News)

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Jan 12, 2012, 6:36:44 PM1/12/12
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In article <xn0ht0o3...@news.individual.net>,
Paul - xxx <notchec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I've watched them being made up - in the past. The plate is perspex,
> > but the letters are just laid on top and held in place by a clear
> > film. You can actually feel the letters through the covering. But
> > they may be different now.

> All the plates I've had have a perspex plate with letters under it, on
> top of the yellow/silvered backing plate.

Interesting. It would have to be sealed in some way to prevent
condensation, etc, if both the backing and clear part were rigid. The film
stuff is sort of self adhesive.

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Gordon H

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Jan 13, 2012, 9:38:17 AM1/13/12
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In message <1YGdnUGvUukuwZLS...@brightview.co.uk>, snot
<"kellerman(snot)2007"@gmail.com> writes
>
>A new number plate for my bike was made with a plastic sheet laminated
>on top of the letters. The first came loose after being fiddled with
>(*cough*) and had to be replaced. Dealer said that they have to be made
>like that now "'cos the regulations have changed".
>Dave

Maybe to stop people <cough> fiddling with them to make a name and make
them less readable. :-)
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Doctor D

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Jan 13, 2012, 12:04:05 PM1/13/12
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"SteveH" wrote in message
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Paul - xxx <notchec...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > I've watched them being made up - in the past. The plate is perspex,
> > but the letters are just laid on top and held in place by a clear
> > film. You can actually feel the letters through the covering. But
> > they may be different now.
>
> All the plates I've had have a perspex plate with letters under it, on
> top of the yellow/silvered backing plate.
>
> Different makes I guess .. ;)

>I've noticed that lease companies use really cheap and nasty plates
>which delaminate after a couple of years.

>I need a new front plate on the Golf - as one corner is peeling.
--
>SteveH

If the car is supplied to the lease company by a main dealer, the plates are
often identical to those supplied to retail customers except the lease
company provide their company "transfer" to be included in the plate rather
than the dealer's own name.

My neighbour works for Bestplate and I think I recall him saying that they
supply the whole VW UK dealer network. Certainly my Touran has Bestplate
plates, are yours Bestplate? The manufacturer's name should be on there
along with the BS number.

Doctor D

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Jan 13, 2012, 12:09:14 PM1/13/12
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>"Fred" wrote in message news:1r1ug7p6800sagfhv...@4ax.com...

>Hi,

>I bought a 60 plate Mondeo from a Ford dealer in November 2011. I've
>noticed the number plates, both front and back, are peeling. The best
>way I can describe it is as if there is "cling film" peeling off the
?number plate.

>I tried phoning the dealer to see whether they might change them free
>of charge considering I've only recently bought the car but I'm
>waiting for a reply.

>I've only washed the car once or twice! But I did use a pressure
>washer the one time. I don't remember standing particularly close or
>lingering over the same spot but could this have caused it?

>What's the best thing to do: new plates? Or should I just scrape the
>damaged layer off and leave the old ones on?

>If I get new plates, what are the best sort to buy? I hear there are
>different types but I know nothing about them.

>TIA

I would go back to the dealer and ask him to replace them FOC. It sounds as
though they are de-laminating due to wet. They may not have been pressed
properly when they made them.
Take your driver's licence and reg doc as he should ask to see these even if
they know you, and the plates to be made are the same as those on the car!

I prefer to see original plates on a car front and back which match rear
window sticker and tax disc holder, but I am a bit odd ;-)

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Jan 13, 2012, 12:53:27 PM1/13/12
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In article <kIadnckBNIfX-I3S...@brightview.co.uk>,
Doctor D <da...@nospam.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> I would go back to the dealer and ask him to replace them FOC. It sounds as
> though they are de-laminating due to wet. They may not have been pressed
> properly when they made them.

I've been looking at some newer cars than mine and the design of number
plate does appear to have changed, with clear thick perspex to the front.
Both my older cars just have a thinner film, and this can de-laminate.

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Doctor D

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Jan 13, 2012, 6:33:13 PM1/13/12
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"SteveH" wrote in message
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Doctor D <da...@nospam.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> My neighbour works for Bestplate and I think I recall him saying that they
> supply the whole VW UK dealer network. Certainly my Touran has Bestplate
> plates, are yours Bestplate? The manufacturer's name should be on there
> along with the BS number.

>This is one with a little bit sticking out of the bottom with the lease
>company name on it - so it's a custom plate, not just a normal one with
>the logo at the bottom.
>--
>SteveH

Yep, I know the type.

Mate of mine bought a Peugeot 407 from Regal Peugeot in Bilston and they use
those. The nose of the 407 is very low, and the plate is mounted low on the
nose so the "tab" on the bottom of the plate is the lowest point on the
front of the car. After cracking two plates when parking, he replaced it
with a standard plate which has outlasted both previous ones.

Doctor D

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Jan 13, 2012, 6:42:04 PM1/13/12
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article <kIadnckBNIfX-I3S...@brightview.co.uk>,
Doctor D <da...@nospam.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> I would go back to the dealer and ask him to replace them FOC. It sounds
> as
> though they are de-laminating due to wet. They may not have been pressed
> properly when they made them.

>I've been looking at some newer cars than mine and the design of number
>plate does appear to have changed, with clear thick perspex to the front.
>Both my older cars just have a thinner film, and this can de-laminate.


I have an 08 reg VW Touran with Bestplate number plates. They have thick
clear perspex fronts with the numbers and letters sat on a thin reflective
base.
My wife has a 60 reg Skoda Yeti with Serck Marston plates. These have a
thick base covered with a thin plastic film.

Dave Plowman (News)

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Jan 13, 2012, 7:15:28 PM1/13/12
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In article <CdudnV4CXo3AXI3S...@brightview.co.uk>,
Doctor D <da...@nospam.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> My wife has a 60 reg Skoda Yeti with Serck Marston plates. These have a
> thick base covered with a thin plastic film.

That was the type Halfords (and others) used to supply. They made them up
as you watched.

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johannes

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Jan 14, 2012, 7:23:29 AM1/14/12
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
>
> In article <CdudnV4CXo3AXI3S...@brightview.co.uk>,
> Doctor D <da...@nospam.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> > My wife has a 60 reg Skoda Yeti with Serck Marston plates. These have a
> > thick base covered with a thin plastic film.
>
> That was the type Halfords (and others) used to supply. They made them up
> as you watched.

Do dealers still stick on the plates by double sided glue patches? I remember
there were once so many new cars losing their plates within the first couple
of weeks.

Doctor D

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Jan 15, 2012, 4:52:01 AM1/15/12
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article <CdudnV4CXo3AXI3S...@brightview.co.uk>,
Doctor D <da...@nospam.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> My wife has a 60 reg Skoda Yeti with Serck Marston plates. These have a
> thick base covered with a thin plastic film.

>That was the type Halfords (and others) used to supply. They made them up
>as you watched.

Washed the Yeti yesterday and noticed the corner of the front one starting
to peel.
Guess this is the same type as the OP has then!

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