Nissan Bluebird problems
Steve Burt
My H reg Nissan Bluebird has recently developed a serious problem; wonder if
anyone could suggets a likely cause.
Here are the symptoms:
1. Car starts first time in the morning and runs perfectly from cold
2. Car runs fine until it has thoroughly warmed up after 10-15 minutes
3. Once warm, it starts to lose power - won't rev over about 3000 RPM, runs
very rough
4. Eventually, stalls, and refuses to restart. Has to be pushed to the side
of the road.
5. After 5 minutes, starts, and runs normally. Problem then goes away until
the following morning (when the car is used later in the day it is fine).
Seems to me it must be either blocked fuel flow or ignition. I'd appreciate
ideas.
It actually behaves as if the engine has flooded, but I don't know how that
can happen when it is running.
Thanks
DaveK
> 1. Car starts first time in the morning and runs perfectly from cold
> 2. Car runs fine until it has thoroughly warmed up after 10-15 minutes
> 3. Once warm, it starts to lose power - won't rev over about 3000 RPM,
runs
> very rough
Clearly an engine management problem. Cold start device is holding on due to
failure of engine temperature sensor.
Then again, it could be an electrical component that's playing up when it
gets warm.
One of the few times it's probably worth paying for a diagnostic test.
DaveK.
John Greystrong
Could be carb icing. Check the hot air flow to the carb (assuming it has
one)
John
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> > 1. Car starts first time in the morning and runs perfectly from cold
> > 2. Car runs fine until it has thoroughly warmed up after 10-15 minutes
> > 3. Once warm, it starts to lose power - won't rev over about 3000 RPM,
> runs
> > very rough
>
> Clearly an engine management problem. Cold start device is holding on due
to
What the hell are you on? An H reg Nissan- engine management?! Come on...!!!
Carb icing, Carb icing, Carb icing, Carb icing. End of story.
The end; it's mini adventure.
Tim..
DaveK
> to failure of engine temperature sensor....
What the hell are you on? An H reg Nissan- engine management?! Come on...!!!
> > Carb icing, Carb icing, Carb icing, Carb icing. End of story.
> > The end; it's mini adventure.
> > Tim..
Thanks for the input.
I'm actually on about 1990 Nissan Bluebird 1.8.
Original Manufacturers Equipment:- Engine management ecu, Part Number: A18
000 C33.
Temperature Sender/Sensor: Bosch 0 280 130 023.
Of course it could a blocked fuel pipe, or choked breather on fuel tank, or
ignition leads or 'carb icing'.
DaveK.
Steve Burt
Thanks for all the feedback, chaps.
I'll check the hot air feed to the carburettor; certainly carb icing would
explain the symptoms, and also why it only seems to happen when the weather
is cold.
I must say I'm surprised a 1990 Bluebird has anything as sophisticated as an
ECU, but there you go.
I don't think its the ignition leads, as I'd expect it then to have problems
starting, and it doesn't; why would such a problem only manifest when the
engine is hot? and why would it go away after resting the engine a few
minutes?
Could be a temp/choke problem, except I checked the choke and it all seems
to be working as expected - the flap is open initially and closes as the
engine warms up, as it should (closes a bit too soon, actually, but that's
another problem, though one that I can live with).
Steve B
varnish or a bit of hose rubber in the float bowl. There's a horizontal jet
right at the lower side of the bowl that has a groove in the bottom of the bowl
leading towards the jet that collects any muck and aims it at the sucking jet
and completely blocks the jet off all the time there is suction. Once the
engine is switched off for a short while the muck can float away until the next
time the engine has run for long enough to go through the collect/suck/block
cycle again.
There may be a float bowl drain plug you can try - you may get lucky and lose
the muck when the petrol is dumped. The best permanent cure is to fit an extra
fuel filter in the petrol feed just prior to the carb.
Your minor choke flap problem may be fixed by rotating the bimetallic strip
heater slightly, there's 2 locking screws to slacken a little then the whole
shebang rotates. A few degrees rotation should do the trick, you'll have to
work out which way to turn it by watching the choke flap.
Back to your main problem, another possibility is the ignition coil, if they're
on the way out they tend to get worse after a few minutes of current flowing
through them.
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Do you have an ECU under the front seat? If so it may have blink
codes that can be read out. all you will need is a Haynes manual, a
phillips screwdriver and a plane blade screw driver. The stored codes
should give you some idea of where the problem is.
Fred
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> What the hell are you on? An H reg Nissan- engine management?! Come
on...!!!
>
I had a problem with an E reg (87) Bluebird, it detects the roadspeed via
the Speedo,and adjust the idle speed . I thought it was too old for that,but
them Nissan peeps are clever! Maybe not hi-tec engine management but still
engine management.
Steve Burt
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No, there's no ECU in my car.
Only the Turbo and fuel injection models have an ECU.
Mine just uses old fashioned mechanical stuff.
I had a fiddle around at the weekend - I think the problem may have been
due to the hose which delivers the hot air having a split in it - I've fixed
that, and resited the hose so that it is taking hot air from the manifold.
Also loosened the valve which admits the hot air to the system - flipped it
up and down a few time vigorously in case it was sticking.
Problem hasn't re-occurred, but it has got warmer, so it may still happen
again when we get a really cold morning; fingers crossed.
Tim (Remove NOSPAM. Registry corupted, reformated HD and lost alot of stuff :(
10-1 you've found the fault, and effectively fixed it :)
Happy Christmas
Tim..
DaveK
on...!!! > Carb icing, Carb icing, Carb icing, Carb icing. End of story.
Thanks for the input.
I'm actually on about 1990 Nissan Bluebird 1.8. Original Manufacturers
Equipment:- Engine management ecu, Part
Number: A18 000 C33. Temperature Sender/Sensor: Bosch 0 280 130 023.
Of course it could a blocked fuel pipe, or choked breather on fuel
tank,or ignition leads or 'carb icing'.
10-1 you've found the fault, and effectively fixed it :)
> > Happy Christmas
> > Tim..
Not engine management system or temperature sensor then (as we are told that
the car is without such devices).
DaveK.
Steve Burt
It has temperature sensors all over the place, but no engine management.
Problem re-occurred this morning, so I've not fixed it.
Looks like either the temp sensor inside the air filter, or the vacuum
driven valve which lets hot air in have failed.
Probably the latter; now to try and track down spare parts.....
Duncan Wood
Well you can test that by sucking very hard.
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MrCheerful
> Hi I'm just wondering I have a 1989 Nissan bluebird 1.6 lx and it is very hard to start when cold when heated up she starts it pick could you tell me any ideas what could be the problem thanking you john Galvin my email address is fleskm...@yahoo.ie
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