Re: Ford Focus 07 - cigarette/power socket not working?
Graham
"David Hearn" <da...@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Mrcheerful wrote:
>> Andy Hardy wrote:
>>> Recently bought an 07 Focus, still waiting for dealer to forward
>>> manuals...
>>>
>>> We want to power the GPS from the power socket under the radio, but it
>>> doesn't seem to work. Is there a hidden button/special plug required?
>>>
>>> Managed to open the bonnet (vague memories of fiddling with Ford
>>> badges helped here!) to check the fuse box, all seemed well but
>>> without the manuals I was just looking for a broke fuse!
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>> usually the same fuse runs the radio, so if that works............. Most
>> likely is a dodgy plug on the gps, try something else in the socket would
>> be the first thing to do, you probably need the ignition on to power the
>> socket.
>
> In my Mk2 55 Focus, the radio is definitely on a separate fuse - my
> lighter socket fuse blew and took a few days to replace, but radio still
> worked.
>
> Additionally, the socket is powered even if the ignition is off.
I was just going to say that, so take it as an endorsement and not what the
other bloke said. Having said that, his advise to try some other equipment
in the socket is sound and should be tried first before checking fuses. Have
you tried pushing in the plug hard and perhaps twisting it while in socket
as sometimes the plug and socket are not a good fit.This is part of the
reason they often put a LED on the socket, so you get confirmation its
connected ok.
Graham
John
> Andy Hardy wrote:
>> Recently bought an 07 Focus, still waiting for dealer to forward
>> manuals...
>>
>> We want to power the GPS from the power socket under the radio, but it
>> doesn't seem to work. Is there a hidden button/special plug required?
>>
>> Managed to open the bonnet (vague memories of fiddling with Ford badges
>> helped here!) to check the fuse box, all seemed well but without the
>> manuals I was just looking for a broke fuse!
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> footwell. Remove soft foam cover, undo the two plastic screws holding it
> up, and it then folds down.
>
> I've had to replace about 6-7 fuses in the few months I've had it. The
> problem I found was if I didn't push the charger into socket exactly
> squarely, it shorted and blew the fuse. It became so bad that I never
> removed it - just kept it plugged in. After blowing 4 fuses in a row
> (immediately when inserting the fuse, even without anything in the lighter
> socket!) I discovered an old pin sitting in the socket which was shorting
> things out - maybe the pin was always there and not pushing squarely
> pushed the pin? I only discovered it as a small puff of smoke came out
> the lighter socket when I replaced the fuse.
>
> Anyway - look above the passenger footwell. The exact fuse will be in the
> manual, but rough placement is middle bank, top row, middle fuse (empty
> sockets to the right of it in my car, and no other 20A fuses inserted on
> that row).
>
> D
About time the lighter socket / plug arrangement was replaced with something
better - and standardised. The lighter socket is only really good for a
lighter.
Krycek
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>
> About time the lighter socket / plug arrangement was replaced with
> something better - and standardised. The lighter socket is only really
> good for a lighter.
I was under the impression it was now a "12v DC" socket. Calling it a
lighter socket might mean you smoke in the car :S
phil...@gmail.com
> In article <WY2ik.36816$1U6.16...@newsfe09.ams2>, John says...
>
>
>
> > About time the lighter socket / plug arrangement was replaced with something
> > better - and standardised. The lighter socket is only really good for a
> > lighter.
>
> and tend to come WITHOUT the lighter bit, I've never had an issue. I've
> run CBs, Satnav, an iPaq, 10" portable colour TV, DVD player and a 12v
> mains inverter from a cig lighter socket without issue.
>
> What are you going to replace it with? Whatever socket it is, it'll
> still be fused and the fuse can still blow.
>
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> Conor
>
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The idea replacement would seem to be a USB socket. Mini USB is pretty
much the standard for mobile phone chargers, sat-navs, digital cameras
and all kinds of other gubbins. USB ports can be easily and
unobtrusively stashed wherever the car designer likes and the power
requirements are low. Only thing it's no good for is running high
powered accessories such as cigarette lighters and inverters. The
standard is well established now and is sure to be around for a long
time.
Philip
Adrian
like they were saying:
> Only thing it's no good for is running high
> powered accessories such as cigarette lighters and inverters.
Or a whole raft of things, including tyre pumps.
The USB standard says 500mA.
Ciggie lighter sockets tend to be fused at around 10A minimum.
Total non-starter.
Graham
<phil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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There are plenty of cig socket to usb adaptors around. One came with my
MP3/ipod transmitter. I'm highly resistant to changing things as we then end
up with two standards and before you know it, every car has a different size
USB socket and nothing is compatible anymore. 95% of the time the old cig
socket works ok and the old adage of "if it aint broke, don't try and fix
it" seems appropriate here.
Graham
Graham
"Adrian" <tooma...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yeah, and good for a lot more. I fitted one close the leisure battery in my
campervan with about a foot of red and black good for 30 amps continuous
(fuse within an inch of the positive battery terminal). I often run a 150
watt inverter off that socket to run a 240 volt TV and the socket doesn't
even get warm. Must be drawing at least 15 amps. The USB limitation is down
to the current available from the computer or USB hub, but I suspect the
socket would get very hot or even melt much above 5 amps. Certainly an
unacceptable voltage drop across it. Providing the cig socket and plug are
not cheap or poorly designed (a lot are) its a perfect connector for the
job.
Graham
Conor
@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, phil...@gmail.com says...
> The idea replacement would seem to be a USB socket. Mini USB is pretty
> much the standard for mobile phone chargers, sat-navs, digital cameras
> and all kinds of other gubbins. USB ports can be easily and
> unobtrusively stashed wherever the car designer likes and the power
> requirements are low. Only thing it's no good for is running high
> powered accessories such as cigarette lighters and inverters. The
> standard is well established now and is sure to be around for a long
> time.
>
But anything that has a capability to be powered in a car such as
Satnav comes with a cig lighter socket. You can buy a cig-socket to USB
adapter as well.
USB is shit as a power source.
Mike Lane
(in article <6MydnbAoE5xnMRTV...@posted.metronet>):
>
> "Adrian" <tooma...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6etnucF...@mid.individual.net...
>> "phil...@gmail.com" <phil...@gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
>> like they were saying:
>>
>>> Only thing it's no good for is running high
>>> powered accessories such as cigarette lighters and inverters.
>>
>> Or a whole raft of things, including tyre pumps.
>>
>> The USB standard says 500mA.
>> Ciggie lighter sockets tend to be fused at around 10A minimum.
>
> Yeah, and good for a lot more. I fitted one close the leisure battery in my
> campervan with about a foot of red and black good for 30 amps continuous
> (fuse within an inch of the positive battery terminal). I often run a 150
> watt inverter off that socket to run a 240 volt TV and the socket doesn't
> even get warm. Must be drawing at least 15 amps.
You can get problems at much less than 15 Amps.
I like to run a portable fridge and a sat nav when I go on holiday in my
Toyota Corolla. I only have one power socket so I used one of those splitter
devices from Halfords. The fridge takes around 5 A and the sat nav 0.5 A. The
first splitter device I used got very hot after an hour or so of use and
eventually melted inside. Another different one did the same. Eventually I
found a plug which was rated at 8 Amps and wired this to a 3 socket device
which I rewired inside with heavier wires. This seems to work, but I wouldn't
like to try running anything that takes much higher current.
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Armin
Most common reason is a wrong fuse. You need to access primary or central fuse
box. It should be located behind your glove compartment. Open it, push sides
to access the fuse box. Usually it's fuse 47 with 7.5 on it. Change it to 15.
Had the exact same problem with my 04 focus.
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alan_m
> replying to Andy Hardy, Armin wrote:
> Most common reason is a wrong fuse. You need to access primary or
> central fuse
> box. It should be located behind your glove compartment. Open it, push
> sides
> to access the fuse box. Usually it's fuse 47 with 7.5 on it. Change it
> to 15.
> Had the exact same problem with my 04 focus.
>
question posted earlier today. It references the same 2005 article on
their web site.
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Tim+
to Fiat Punto problems, even when the subject line makes it clear that it
isn't.
Tim
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Jacob Rehbein
this helped me from having to pull ever fuse to check thank you !!!
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alan_m
> replying to susanlmaddock, Jacob Rehbein wrote:
> this helped me from having to pull ever fuse to check thank you !!!
>
of us on other platforms that you are replying to an question about a
fiat puto posted a decade ago.
James
The actual lighter would be a good tester as it's designed for that car and so
you won't get any 'incompatibility' issues when testing other equipment as
'07s are ten years old now :O