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Richard Gethin

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Sep 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/21/00
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Hello, I've looked in the FAQ and in Deja to see if this has been asked
before.
There was one query, but it wasn't resolved.

We have a 1997 galaxy 1.9tdi 90bhp, It's done about 47000 miles.
Lately the glow plug light has started flashing soon after setting off.
It then continues to flash throughout the journey.

I spoke to the dealer where we bought it (not new) and they said they
had one in a few months ago with the same problem. They changed a relay
but that did not cure it. Then they changed the fusebox which has sorted
it. It was a bit arbitrary I thought. I expected them to say 'it's your
foo foo possinator' and you need a new one. The fusebox was £400!

I wondered if any one had any thoughts?
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Simon Canfer

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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Richard Gethin <ric...@rgethin.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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No experince with this engine, but plenty with other D's.

I'd guess the light is saying there's somthing wrong with your glowplugs;
I'd start by changing all four. At that mileage it would be a reasonable
precaution- especially at this time of year.

They're not as expensive as a foo foo possinator....

Simon Canfer

kenneth booth

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Sep 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/22/00
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Not sure if this is the same but iveco that is ford /fiat commerical have
the same set up and when it flashes it is telling you where the fault is by
the frequency of the flashes
kenny
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Graeme Taylor

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Sep 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/24/00
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Most common cause of diesel glow plug light flashing is caused by brake
pedal switches not being sychronised.
There are 2 switches on the brake pedal
1 black - brake lights
1 blue - diesel engine management

Switches must operate together to do this use a digital multimeter across
the contacts. The brake light switch must operate at the same time as the
diesel switch.

Once sychronised drive for a few miles and the light should stay out

Graeme

Richard Gethin

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Sep 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/24/00
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Thank you Graeme, this is an interesting angle.
I had noticed the two brake light switches. My senior other had
complained that the brake lights don't come on until she's pressed the
pedal quite some way down. I wonder if there is some problem there?
There is no adjustment that I can see on the switches.
I wonder how the engine management knows that the switches are out of
sync.?? The light starts to flash a few seconds after starting the
engine, even if no pedals have been touched.
I have posted another note earlier, where I say I think it's something
like an engine temperature sensor letting me down. Possible?

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Richard Gethin

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Sep 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/24/00
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In article <8qgjc1$8pv$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com>, kenneth booth
<kennet...@btinternet.com> writes

>Not sure if this is the same but iveco that is ford /fiat commerical have
>the same set up and when it flashes it is telling you where the fault is by
>the frequency of the flashes
>kenny

Thanks Kenny and Simon for your responses.
I have checked out the glowplugs and they are OK. I would like to think
that there was a hidden message in the frequency of the flashes but
can't find any reference to it. I would have thought in this day and age
a Ford garage would be able to connect up a computer to the car and
diagnose the fault. But come to think of it, I can't see a diagnostic
connector anywhere.
I think that the fault lies in a temperature sensor somewhere. There is
no power to the glowplugs even when starting from cold and the glow plug
light is only on for a very short time when you first put the ignition
on. So I think the engine management thinks the engine is warm (but too
warm hence the fault flashing) - perhaps open circuit? There must be an
engine management box somewhere (electronic throttle and air flow meter
on the intake) but I can't find it.
I will wait until the weather gets colder and see if it gets sluggish
starting. At the moment there is no difference in performance.
Thanks again.
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Richard Gethin

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Sep 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/24/00
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adventurer

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Sep 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/24/00
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the diagnostic socket is under the ashtray
Steve

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Richard Gethin

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Sep 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/30/00
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You were quite right Steve, there is a purple diagnostic socket behind
the ashtray. I suppose I need a Ford computer now to see what's wrong?
Not just a dumb terminal?
Anyway, I'm pleased to say it's OK at the moment!! After a few days of
flashing all the time it's now working fine. I've even noticed the
glowplug relay clicking in and out as the rpm goes over 2500 for the
first few mins of driving. (Which is what it used to do)
So there must be an intermittent fault on a sensor or something.
Thanks for all your help.
I wonder who Shabaz is? as recommended by Mojahad.

An ECU guru?


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>the diagnostic socket is under the ashtray
>Steve

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adventurer

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Oct 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/1/00
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the diagnostic socket under the ashtray is for the ford fds 2000 diagnostic
tester so if the fault comes back I think you will have to take it to a ford
dealers and ask them to check out the fault with that
I have checked to see if there are any technical service bulletins out for
that fault but can't see any.
at a guess it's poss.a relay fault.
Steve

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