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Stephen

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Aug 15, 2011, 12:13:16 PM8/15/11
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Hello,

I have a Citroen c3 with a full tank of fuel and I am hoping to part
exchange the car but don't want to give the garage the diesel! I bet
the new car will have only 5 litres in when they give it to me.

Is there a way to remove the diesel? I have tried inserting a hose
down the filler. It goes three or four foot in but I don't know if it
hits an obstruction, I can't seem to get it to go any further. Is
there some sort of anti-siphon device in the filler tube?

Is there another clever way to remove the diesel?

Thanks,
Stephen.

Paul - xxx

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Aug 15, 2011, 12:26:33 PM8/15/11
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Stephen wrote:

Dunno specifically, but when we sold on my wifes Renault Laguna we took
a fuel pipe off near the fuel filter and used the primer (hand) pump to
pump diesel out. Took a while and needed an extra tube/connector
molishing but it worked .. we got about 40 litres out!

Further to that, we were (afterwards) told that we could have turned on
the ignition and used the fuel pump itself to do the same .. ;)

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Harry Bloomfield

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Aug 15, 2011, 1:24:27 PM8/15/11
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on 15/08/2011, Stephen supposed :

Divert the output of the fuel pump into a container. Most cars these
days are fitted with some sort of baffle to prevent syphoning via the
filler.

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Ramsman

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Aug 15, 2011, 2:07:56 PM8/15/11
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AIUI some cars have a drain tap under the tank, to be used when the
driver suffers from brain fade and fills up with petrol instead. My
son-in-law (who is a car salesman and should know better) did this once.
Car recovered on a trailer and the tank drained in the workshop using
said tap.

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Chris Whelan

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Aug 15, 2011, 2:18:22 PM8/15/11
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 19:07:56 +0100, Ramsman wrote:

[...]

> AIUI some cars have a drain tap under the tank, to be used when the
> driver suffers from brain fade and fills up with petrol instead. My
> son-in-law (who is a car salesman and should know better) did this once.
> Car recovered on a trailer and the tank drained in the workshop using
> said tap.

Any idea what make and model that was?

Only I could do with some free fuel ;-)

Chris

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Ramsman

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Aug 15, 2011, 4:06:15 PM8/15/11
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I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. Or at least run you over.

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Chris Whelan

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Aug 15, 2011, 4:18:20 PM8/15/11
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:06:15 +0100, Ramsman wrote:

[...]

>> Any idea what make and model that was?
>>
>> Only I could do with some free fuel ;-)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
> I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. Or at least run you
> over.

Heh!

Duncan Wood

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Aug 15, 2011, 4:33:43 PM8/15/11
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:18:20 +0100, Chris Whelan
<cawh...@prejudicentlworld.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:06:15 +0100, Ramsman wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> Any idea what make and model that was?
>>>
>>> Only I could do with some free fuel ;-)
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>> I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. Or at least run you
>> over.
>
> Heh!
>
> Chris
>

As most scrotes seem to know, it's an optional extra on any car, you fit
by taking a good swing with a screwdriver.

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The Other Mike

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Aug 16, 2011, 6:20:45 AM8/16/11
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:13:16 +0100, Stephen
<ste...@nowhere.com.invalid> wrote:

>I bet the new car will have only 5 litres in when they give it to me.

Some manufacturers used to specify that the fuel tank be filled and
checked for leaks at the pre-delivery inspection.

Somehow they all had a tick in the check box yet were still delivered
to customers with just a gallon or so in the tank.


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BluntChisel

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Aug 16, 2011, 12:05:51 PM8/16/11
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"Stephen" <ste...@nowhere.com.invalid> wrote in message
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I recently bought a new Fiesta, and the fuel tank was full when I received
it, much to my surprise.


Stephen

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Aug 16, 2011, 3:47:19 PM8/16/11
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On 15 Aug 2011 16:26:33 GMT, "Paul - xxx" <notchec...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Dunno specifically, but when we sold on my wifes Renault Laguna we took
>a fuel pipe off near the fuel filter and used the primer (hand) pump to
>pump diesel out. Took a while and needed an extra tube/connector
>molishing but it worked .. we got about 40 litres out!
>
>Further to that, we were (afterwards) told that we could have turned on
>the ignition and used the fuel pump itself to do the same .. ;)


The idea of using the primer sounded good. All the tubing seems to be
stuck tight on ribbed connectors and will not come off. I will try
applying hot water to see if this allows me to remove the tube. I will
have to look around the filter to see if that would be easier.

Not sure about using the ignition: if you divert the fuel into a jerry
can, what keeps the engine turning?

No drain on my tank and I don't fancy drilling it. I'd hate the new
owner to have to buy a new tank because this one had sprung a leak.

Thanks,
Stephen

johannes

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Aug 21, 2011, 5:18:08 AM8/21/11
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Andy Clews wrote:
>
> On 15/08/2011 17:13, Stephen wrote:

> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a Citroen c3 with a full tank of fuel and I am hoping to part
> > exchange the car but don't want to give the garage the diesel! I bet
> > the new car will have only 5 litres in when they give it to me.
>

> Wouldn't it be easier to negotiate the price of the new car down by the
> cost of the diesel, or make it a condition of sale that they fill the
> tank in the new car?

Agreed. If he empties the tank, someone else has to fill it. Same difference.
So why not just negotiate the difference; it's hard money.

At least he can ask for the new car to be filled 'like for like'. Only a dodgy
dealer could refuse.

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