Ford Transit PATS
Alan Harvey
The PATS system was disabled by one of the previous owners but I want to
reinstate it if it is viable. I would be grateful for any help to diagnose
if the bits are still servicable and what needs to be done to get the system
working again.
You can start and drive the van with a non-transponder key. The PATS LED
flashes for a while then goes out. The other symptom of the bodge is that
you can pull the starter relay from the fusebox and still start the engine.
The steering column transceiver is there, with what looks like the guts of a
transponder key taped to it, but the LED still flashes and you can still
start and run the engine if you remove the taped on bit. The PATS module on
the bulkhead is still there. I have no Red key.
Any ideas?
If you can help but don't want to broadcast the info please email me direct.
Thanks for taking the trouble......
Alan
adventurer
when you say you removed the taped on bits do you mean the key
if so check to see if they have run extra wires from the ign.switch to the
starter or anywhere else
you will also need 3 new keys 1 red and 2 black the red will need to be
programmed with the fds at the ford dealers
Steve
Alan Harvey <al...@alan-stephen-harvey.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Andy Hewitt
> I am the (legal, honest) owner of a diesel '95 Transit bought secondhand.
> The PATS system was disabled by one of the previous owners but I want to
> reinstate it if it is viable. I would be grateful for any help to diagnose
> if the bits are still servicable and what needs to be done to get the system
> working again.
>
> You can start and drive the van with a non-transponder key. The PATS LED
> flashes for a while then goes out. The other symptom of the bodge is that
> you can pull the starter relay from the fusebox and still start the engine.
> The steering column transceiver is there, with what looks like the guts of a
> transponder key taped to it, but the LED still flashes and you can still
> start and run the engine if you remove the taped on bit. The PATS module on
> the bulkhead is still there. I have no Red key.
I don't know what to suggest here really. There is not much you can do.
The wires to the PATS module are all the same colour (black), and the
PATS manuals have to be securely locked in a safe at the dealership (or
at least they should be). While I was working on these (not Transits,
but the systems are the same) we had to phone Fords for any assistance
with these - and we had to prove who we were too.
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Alan Harvey
sign of extra wires anywhere so far. It looks as though the 'guard' over
the PATS module on the bulkhead has been disturbed, so I suspect any bodging
has been done in the loom there. I haven't been in there yet. From the
Haynes (sigh) manual it looks as though it should be fairly easy to bypass
the PATS for this vehicle because all it does is inhibit the starter relay
and stop the fuel valve on the pump from opening. Two simple bodges I
suspect, and the PATS module loom would be the place to do it. Identify the
wires with a test meter and Robert is your dad's brother!
At the end of the day I suspect I will have to consult a Ford dealer,
because I need to get keys & get 'em programmed anyway. Just trying to
minimise the bill.
Alan
adventurer <advent...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> it sounds like the system is all intact and working
> when you say you removed the taped on bits do you mean the key
> if so check to see if they have run extra wires from the ign.switch to the
> starter or anywhere else
> you will also need 3 new keys 1 red and 2 black the red will need to be
> programmed with the fds at the ford dealers
> Steve
> Alan Harvey <al...@alan-stephen-harvey.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:8qdt7t$pvh$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > I am the (legal, honest) owner of a diesel '95 Transit bought
secondhand.
> > The PATS system was disabled by one of the previous owners but I want to
> > reinstate it if it is viable. I would be grateful for any help to
> diagnose
> > if the bits are still servicable and what needs to be done to get the
> system
> > working again.
> >
> > You can start and drive the van with a non-transponder key. The PATS
LED
> > flashes for a while then goes out. The other symptom of the bodge is
that
> > you can pull the starter relay from the fusebox and still start the
> engine.
> > The steering column transceiver is there, with what looks like the guts
of
> a
> > transponder key taped to it, but the LED still flashes and you can still
> > start and run the engine if you remove the taped on bit. The PATS module
> on
> > the bulkhead is still there. I have no Red key.
> >
kenneth booth
modification done on the fuel pump to by pass the pats system from what i
have seen its not easy to do .eletronic components fitted to the fuel pump!
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