Mondeo rear wheel bearing - easy?
Willy Eckerslyke
of t'wife's Mondeo estate (W reg Mk2) has way too much play. Anyone know
if these are straighforward to replace (or tighten up?) without a
manual, or should I turn the garage upside down trying to find that
damned thing?
Conor
says...
Nothing too hard. The wheel bearing comes as a complete hub assembly so
nowt to press in or out. Needs a 32mm socket for the hub nut.
£37.89 inc delivery:
http://tinyurl.com/nley74
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Dave Plowman (News)
Conor <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
> Nothing too hard. The wheel bearing comes as a complete hub assembly so
> nowt to press in or out. Needs a 32mm socket for the hub nut.
And a breaker bar with an elephant sat on it?
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To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Duncan Wood
<da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <MPG.24ac16788...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Conor <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>> Nothing too hard. The wheel bearing comes as a complete hub assembly so
>> nowt to press in or out. Needs a 32mm socket for the hub nut.
>
> And a breaker bar with an elephant sat on it?
>
Now now, Conors been playing nicely for hours.
Conor
says...
>
> In article <MPG.24ac16788...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Conor <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
> > Nothing too hard. The wheel bearing comes as a complete hub assembly so
> > nowt to press in or out. Needs a 32mm socket for the hub nut.
>
> And a breaker bar with an elephant sat on it?
May I suggest 3 shredded wheat for breakfast tomorrow?
Dave Plowman (News)
Conor <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <50706be...@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
> says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.24ac16788...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > Conor <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Nothing too hard. The wheel bearing comes as a complete hub assembly
> > > so nowt to press in or out. Needs a 32mm socket for the hub nut.
> >
> > And a breaker bar with an elephant sat on it?
> May I suggest 3 shredded wheat for breakfast tomorrow?
No. It would spoil the fried mammoth I normally have.
I was just remembering the fun undoing a Montego front hub with a nut
approx that size.
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Mrcheerful
> In article <MPG.24ac4d197...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Conor <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <50706be...@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
>> says...
>>>
>>> In article <MPG.24ac16788...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> Conor <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Nothing too hard. The wheel bearing comes as a complete hub
>>>> assembly so nowt to press in or out. Needs a 32mm socket for the
>>>> hub nut.
>>>
>>> And a breaker bar with an elephant sat on it?
>
>> May I suggest 3 shredded wheat for breakfast tomorrow?
>
> No. It would spoil the fried mammoth I normally have.
>
> I was just remembering the fun undoing a Montego front hub with a nut
> approx that size.
Mondeo rear hub is only done up to 70nm, so not tight at all compared with
the front for instance at 290 !!!
Montego was 203 and 68, so not radically different on the rear at least.
Willy Eckerslyke
I'm reduced to answering via groups.google, so gawd knows how this
will appear.
On Jun 24, 11:55 am, Conor <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <7ae5vgF1u2oj...@mid.individual.net>, Willy Eckerslyke
> says...
>
> > I've misplaced my Haynes manual and noticed that one rear wheelbearing
> > of t'wife'sMondeoestate (W reg Mk2) has way too much play. Anyone know
> > if these are straighforward to replace (or tighten up?) without a
> > manual, or should I turn the garage upside down trying to find that
> > damned thing?
>
> Nothing too hard. The wheelbearingcomes as a complete hub assembly so
> nowt to press in or out. Needs a 32mm socket for the hub nut.
Ah, I'd better add that to my shopping list then - unless I can
persuade a 1 1/4 AF to fit...
> £37.89 inc delivery:http://tinyurl.com/nley74
Thanks for looking it up, but unfortunately that's for a saloon
without ABS. It appears that hubs for estates with ABS are a lot
dearer.
Conor
says...
> No. It would spoil the fried mammoth I normally have.
>
> I was just remembering the fun undoing a Montego front hub with a nut
> approx that size.
After having done a Maestro front hub, I know where you're coming from.
Willy Eckerslyke
> In article <7ae5vgF...@mid.individual.net>, Willy Eckerslyke
> says...
>> I've misplaced my Haynes manual and noticed that one rear wheel bearing
>> of t'wife's Mondeo estate (W reg Mk2) has way too much play. Anyone know
>> if these are straighforward to replace (or tighten up?) without a
>> manual, or should I turn the garage upside down trying to find that
>> damned thing?
>
> Nothing too hard. The wheel bearing comes as a complete hub assembly so
> nowt to press in or out. Needs a 32mm socket for the hub nut.
Quick update: You were all wrong! (I guess you were thinking of the
_front_ bearing.)
There was no hub nut at all, just 4 torx headed bolts accessed through a
hole in the hub. Had to do it in a hurry on Saturday after the noise
level went up to 11. Stupidly, I hadn't got around to buying a
replacement so had a small panic when the local Ford agent wanted 218
quid + VAT! Luckily, Unipart had one in stock for 89 + VAT which was
somewhat less painful and no dearer than any I'd seen on the 'net.
Job went smoothly enough.
Mrcheerful
and what torque did you do them up to?
Willy Eckerslyke
>> There was no hub nut at all, just 4 torx headed bolts accessed
>> through a hole in the hub. Had to do it in a hurry on Saturday after
>> the noise level went up to 11. Stupidly, I hadn't got around to
>> buying a replacement so had a small panic when the local Ford agent
>> wanted 218 quid + VAT! Luckily, Unipart had one in stock for 89 + VAT
>> which was somewhat less painful and no dearer than any I'd seen on
>> the 'net. Job went smoothly enough.
>
> and what torque did you do them up to?
Dunno. I just added a few drops of Loctite and did them up as tight as I
dared.
PCPaul
Mr Haynes says if it's the drum brake version you wanted 45-54Nm, if it's
the disc brakes then the splash shield wanted 90Nm. The disc only has
three bolts so I assume it's the drum you have.
Bit weird that AFAICS that backplate is what takes all the braking
effort, yet it gets less force than the disc splashguard that doesn't
take any...
Willy Eckerslyke
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:21:02 +0100, Willy Eckerslyke wrote:
>
>> Mrcheerful wrote:
>>
>>>> There was no hub nut at all, just 4 torx headed bolts accessed through
>>>> a hole in the hub. Had to do it in a hurry on Saturday after the noise
>>>> level went up to 11. Stupidly, I hadn't got around to buying a
>>>> replacement so had a small panic when the local Ford agent wanted 218
>>>> quid + VAT! Luckily, Unipart had one in stock for 89 + VAT which was
>>>> somewhat less painful and no dearer than any I'd seen on the 'net. Job
>>>> went smoothly enough.
>>> and what torque did you do them up to?
>> Dunno. I just added a few drops of Loctite and did them up as tight as I
>> dared.
>
> Mr Haynes says if it's the drum brake version you wanted 45-54Nm, if it's
> the disc brakes then the splash shield wanted 90Nm. The disc only has
> three bolts so I assume it's the drum you have.
Must be the wrong Haynes then. This has disc brakes and 4 bolts, which
pass through the splash shield - i.e. it's sandwiched between the hub's
flange and the carrier. There's no way little bolts (Torx 50) like that
could take 90Nm.
To clarify, this is a late model Mk2 Mondeo estate with ABS. Rear hubs
on these are not compatible with the saloon or any others, as I found
out when buying one.
But thanks for looking it up.
Adrian
much like they were saying:
> There's no way little bolts (Torx 50) like that could take 90Nm.
Little? T50's ginormous by Torx standards - 9mm across the points, and
specced for 132 to 158Nm torque. The standard would be for that to have
an M10 thread, which'd normally be a 17mm hex head.
Mrcheerful
65nm is listed for the bolts on the estate
Mrcheerful
65 is listed for the hub on the estate, but there is also mention of 90nm
for back plate to hub on the rear (no mention of estate though) [autodata]
Who knows, do it up tight and leave it alone.
Adrian
were saying:
> Who knows, do it up tight and leave it alone.
...is the right answer. A grunt and a fart.
Willy Eckerslyke
> Willy Eckerslyke <oss108...@bangor.ac.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
> much like they were saying:
>
>> There's no way little bolts (Torx 50) like that could take 90Nm.
>
> Little? T50's ginormous by Torx standards - 9mm across the points, and
> specced for 132 to 158Nm torque. The standard would be for that to have
> an M10 thread, which'd normally be a 17mm hex head.
Hmm, that doesn't sound right. Perhaps I'm getting my mumbers wuddled
and it wasn't a 50. Never mind.
Willy Eckerslyke
>>>> There's no way little bolts (Torx 50) like that could take 90Nm.
>>> Little? T50's ginormous by Torx standards - 9mm across the points,
>>> and specced for 132 to 158Nm torque. The standard would be for that
>>> to have an M10 thread, which'd normally be a 17mm hex head.
>>>
>>> http://www.wihatools.com/Marketing/torxspec.htm
>> 65nm is listed for the bolts on the estate
>
> 65 is listed for the hub on the estate, but there is also mention of 90nm
> for back plate to hub on the rear (no mention of estate though) [autodata]
65's in the order of 50 lb/ft in real money. Probably about what I gave
it then.
> Who knows, do it up tight and leave it alone.
Exactly my intention. I'd given it some Loctite too for good measure, so
it should outlive the rest of the car.
PCPaul
> PCPaul wrote:
> Must be the wrong Haynes then. This has disc brakes and 4 bolts, which
> pass through the splash shield - i.e. it's sandwiched between the hub's
> flange and the carrier. There's no way little bolts (Torx 50) like that
> could take 90Nm.
> To clarify, this is a late model Mk2 Mondeo estate with ABS. Rear hubs
> on these are not compatible with the saloon or any others, as I found
> out when buying one.
>
> But thanks for looking it up.
Yep, those were for a Mark 1. And for the Mk.1 Estate (with a drum
handbrake *and* a disc footbrake on it...) those bolts had 65Nm/48lb.ft
listed.
Harry Bloomfield
> Nothing too hard. The wheel bearing comes as a complete hub assembly so
> nowt to press in or out. Needs a 32mm socket for the hub nut.
Did I hear that tightening and undoing needs a massive amount of torque
on that nut?
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