LPG Filler in bumper...
Will Morrow
I have one of the plastice filler things that fits into the bumper, i
believe a universal design and i have cracked my bumper and may need to
replace it soon :o(
I was wondering if these fillers just unbolt and and unclip or if they are
some sort of push and or bonded in kinda of plastic?? If so and i just cut
the thing back out and rebond it to the new bumper would it be sufficient to
support it?? I will probably be strengthening the new bumper up anyway with
some fibre glass and such like around the area as well.
Any advice on this would be appreciated and can post pictures as well if
needed to help, of course just links to a hosted site :o)
Thanks,
Will
Unknown
If you have one fitted I have put my last two fillers on a bracket on my
towbar. Saves cutting holes in bodywork and as its in the middle of the
car it doesn't matter what side of pump I pull up at.
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Tom Woods
wrote:
>I have one of the plastice filler things that fits into the bumper, i
>believe a universal design and i have cracked my bumper and may need to
>replace it soon :o(
Mine just bolts/screws in. It pushes in from the front then a slightly
larger 'cup' shaped bit goes over it from the back and is fixed to the
other bit with some little bolts or screws with 7 or 8mm heads i
think.
Im not sure if its possible to fully remove it with the filler pipe
connected to it though.
Will Morrow
news:sve8s19fbnvfdqtu8...@4ax.com...
Thanks Tom ill keep it in mind, ill make sure the tank is run out before i
try this incase i loosen the wrong thing when undoing it to be on the safe
side but it sounds exactly what you have described :o)
Will
Will Morrow
news:pan.2006.01.09....@the-entwistles.co.uk...
Im afraid if i had a towbar on my car i may be shot, as ive heard of one
having it but i dont think they are even made unless you get one
retrofitted/bespoke... It may spoil the lines of my car as well ;o) although
i did think of it a while ago for mounting a bike rack instead of putting
the over the boot style one on but the cost was shockingly high :o(
http://www.kingpleb.talktalk.net/coop/Coop%2010.jpg
Have a guess what it is without cheating ;o)
And this is what ive done.....
http://www.kingpleb.talktalk.net/Bumper/DSCF0002.JPG
Sorry for people on dialup and 512k/1meg Broadband connections as these can
take a minute or two to load...
And can i just say modern bumpers are bloomin fragile enough to make eggs
look rock solid :o( all this was done at about 5mph if that at as hadnt even
got off the clutch :o(
Thanks,
Will
Stewart Hargrave
wrote:
>"Tom Woods" <toma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:sve8s19fbnvfdqtu8...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:12:32 GMT, "Will Morrow" <ba...@chavman.chav>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I have one of the plastice filler things that fits into the bumper, i
>>>believe a universal design and i have cracked my bumper and may need to
>>>replace it soon :o(
>>
>> Mine just bolts/screws in. It pushes in from the front then a slightly
>> larger 'cup' shaped bit goes over it from the back and is fixed to the
>> other bit with some little bolts or screws with 7 or 8mm heads i
>> think.
>> Im not sure if its possible to fully remove it with the filler pipe
>> connected to it though.
>>
>
>Thanks Tom ill keep it in mind, ill make sure the tank is run out before i
>try this incase i loosen the wrong thing when undoing it to be on the safe
>side but it sounds exactly what you have described :o)
>
Better idea would be to simply close the isolator valve - usually
there are a couple of thumbwheels on the multivalve, one for inlet and
one for outlet. Close them both if you are not sure which is which,
and this will isolate the tank and stop any possibility of a gas
escape. You can then remove the filler pipe safely.
Don't forget to turn them back on again when you're done.
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Austin Shackles
<ba...@chavman.chav> enlightened us thusly:
>Im afraid if i had a towbar on my car i may be shot, as ive heard of one
>having it but i dont think they are even made unless you get one
>retrofitted/bespoke... It may spoil the lines of my car as well ;o) although
>i did think of it a while ago for mounting a bike rack instead of putting
>the over the boot style one on but the cost was shockingly high :o(
>
>http://www.kingpleb.talktalk.net/coop/Coop%2010.jpg
>
>Have a guess what it is without cheating ;o)
Fiat, ain't it? Barchetta? summat like that.
>And this is what ive done.....
>http://www.kingpleb.talktalk.net/Bumper/DSCF0002.JPG
>
>Sorry for people on dialup and 512k/1meg Broadband connections as these can
>take a minute or two to load...
you could of course reduce the pictures to a sensible size.
FWIW, for general webshot purposes, I reckon to crop, then resize 'til the
picture fits in an 800x600 window, then adjust compression 'til it's about
100KB.
>And can i just say modern bumpers are bloomin fragile enough to make eggs
>look rock solid :o( all this was done at about 5mph if that at as hadnt even
>got off the clutch :o(
and modern cars are too highly geared :-)
but yeah, all this energy absorbtion is only good up to a point.
--
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and those who can't" (Anon)
Peter Hill
wrote:
>http://www.kingpleb.talktalk.net/coop/Coop%2010.jpg
>
>Have a guess what it is without cheating ;o)
It's a 20v turbo. With photo at 100%. Can clearly see the 2 on the
side pillar and the" turbo" under it.
Would have been harder if the was at a lower res.
Will Morrow
news:82has11ssu78pno54...@4ax.com...
Very good indeed, should have made it a bit harder then maybe :o)
The images are pretty big but i have loads of webspace and didnt see a point
in reducing them. may crop them one day to just the car to save on space
when i get bored but always use the highest res i can with the digicam as
better dont see why not as dont take long to upload either :o)
Will Morrow
news:4dm8s15qv1ssr0ag1...@4ax.com...
Cheers Stewart :o)
Its a toroidal tankwith a cover of the the hole of the doughnut so i guess
ill have a look under there when i can get the bumper sorted as may see
about repair but doubt it can be mashed back together easily... :o(
Thanks again for all the info....
Tom Woods
wrote:
>> Better idea would be to simply close the isolator valve - usually
>> there are a couple of thumbwheels on the multivalve, one for inlet and
>> one for outlet. Close them both if you are not sure which is which,
>> and this will isolate the tank and stop any possibility of a gas
>> escape. You can then remove the filler pipe safely.
>>
>> Don't forget to turn them back on again when you're done.
>
>Its a toroidal tankwith a cover of the the hole of the doughnut so i guess
>ill have a look under there when i can get the bumper sorted as may see
>about repair but doubt it can be mashed back together easily... :o(
>
>Thanks again for all the info....
I'm sure i was told that they had a one way valve on the multivalve to
stop fuel getting out of the filler?
With all these people fitting fillers in bumpers it would be a bit of
a bugger if they were to reverse into something and break the
pipe/damage the filler and then loose a tank of fuel - a one way valve
would be sensible.
Not that i wouldnt also turn off a valve if i wanted to work on it and
be totally sure it wouldnt leak.
GbH
Clearly you could do with thinking about someone other than yourself for a change!
--
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it."
If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!
Austin Shackles
<ba...@chavman.chav> enlightened us thusly:
>The images are pretty big but i have loads of webspace and didnt see a point
>in reducing them. may crop them one day to just the car to save on space
>when i get bored but always use the highest res i can with the digicam as
>better dont see why not as dont take long to upload either :o)
>
yeah, but it depends who you intend to look at 'em.
Also, in the case of my browser at least, they're way to big to see the
whole thing, and ICBA resizing 'em.
seriously, by putting pictures that big up, you're wasting effort. The only
time you need 'em that big is for printing, and there I agree with you, keep
as much quality as you can.
but for ordinary web viewing, pictures much over 1000 pixels wide or 800
deep are a waste of time. I use a 19" monitor at 1280x960, which is higher
resolution that an lot of people I know and higher resolution than most of
the low-end TFT displays. There really isn't much point in sending pictures
that only a quarter fit on the monitor. Even if you use something crappy
like IE which auto-resizes (I think it does, anyway) then it's still a waste
of bandwidth, and most people pay for their bandwidth. OK, personally, I
have 45GB a month included in my broadband connection and they don't take
too long to download, but they're still too big to fit on the monitor.
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athol
> I'm sure i was told that they had a one way valve on the multivalve to
> stop fuel getting out of the filler?
I'm working from AU experience, not UK experience, but AFAIK all tanks
have a check valve in the filler input on the tank whether they have a
manual shutoff or not.
> With all these people fitting fillers in bumpers it would be a bit of
> a bugger if they were to reverse into something and break the
> pipe/damage the filler and then loose a tank of fuel - a one way valve
> would be sensible.
IIRC, The AU standard was revised a few years ago to specifically ban
filler installation in a plastic panel such as a bumper. I think that
it was "implied" by the requirement that they be "securely mounted" but
people were mounting to plastic panels so it was revised to spell out
the fact that it wasn't allowed...
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<http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
The state of infrastructure in New South Wales is a disgrace.
I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.
Austin Shackles
thusly:
>That's an odd resolution. When I was running 1280, I ran 1280x1024.
it comes down to the choice between 4:3 or 5:4 - I prefer 4:3. The screen
dimensions are mostly 4:3, so 4:3 resolution gets you approximately equal
vertical and horizontal pictures, or in other words, square things look
square.
--
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I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)
Austin Shackles
thusly:
>Is there anyone out there silly enough to persist in using a major security
>risk like that?
bloody millions of 'em, judging by the number of sites (including Paddock's
online shop, but they say they're working on it) which only work in IE.
--
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athol
> On or around 12 Jan 2006 23:47:32 GMT, athol <m...@privacy.net> enlightened us
> thusly:
>>Is there anyone out there silly enough to persist in using a major security
>>risk like that?
> bloody millions of 'em, judging by the number of sites (including Paddock's
> online shop, but they say they're working on it) which only work in IE.
Hmm. Now that I've upgraded my main box to slackware 10.2, I might have to go
looking for the "imitate OE" plugin for mozilla. Apparently it reformats web
pages so that they display in mozilla as they would in OE. Dunno if it lies
to the sites and pretends to be OE but that would be handy. :-)
Nathan Lucas
> I'm sure i was told that they had a one way valve on the multivalve to
> stop fuel getting out of the filler?
all but one of the tanks i've seen have. think it partly depends on the age
of the tank
David Taylor
> side pillar and the" turbo" under it.
>
> Would have been harder if the was at a lower res.
Our definitions of "clearly" are clearly different.
It only says 2 and turbo if you know that's what it is meant to read.
Even at full res, the work turbo is illegible.
Incidentally, using the Microsoft Powertoy plugin (free), a 1024 x 768
reduces from 2.2MB to 101k and it's equally as (ill)egible.
:)
David.
Tom Woods
>Austin Shackles <austin...@ddol-las.net> wrote:
>> On or around 12 Jan 2006 23:47:32 GMT, athol <m...@privacy.net> enlightened us
>> thusly:
>
>>>Is there anyone out there silly enough to persist in using a major security
>>>risk like that?
>
>> bloody millions of 'em, judging by the number of sites (including Paddock's
>> online shop, but they say they're working on it) which only work in IE.
>
>Hmm. Now that I've upgraded my main box to slackware 10.2, I might have to go
>looking for the "imitate OE" plugin for mozilla. Apparently it reformats web
>pages so that they display in mozilla as they would in OE. Dunno if it lies
>to the sites and pretends to be OE but that would be handy. :-)
Opera used to be able to do that. It had a little drop down box that
let you identify it as whatever you liked. Not used it recently to
check though.