Front discs for 100E Anglia?
MRB7484
recommends (and I concur) fitting disc brakes in the front.
At present I don't have the struts or spindles handy (I said I was
'preparing' to prepare) to measure. Has anyone done this sort of a conversion?
I plan on using a set of Girling 14 calipers from a Cortina donor. Does
anyone know if I will be able to use the complete hub assy, or is it machine
shop time?
While I'm asking, can anyone point me to documentation for period speed
modifications? I'll need to show evidence for any mods I make and a little more
carb would be a good thing.
Thanks in Advance
Mark Becht MRB...@aol.com
Corben Super Ace builder
Ford Cortinae (that's plural!) Owner
Collector of Lost Causes and Orphans
(Formerly cali...@crl.com - and yes I should know better than AOL)
Andrew W. Macfadyen
the parts required were rare even then ---- you need to use struts and discs
from a Classic --- Cortina parts won't fit.
MRB7484 wrote in message <19991024230644...@ng-ca1.aol.com>...
Adrian Southgate
forget it.
After being ripped of £100 for a set of crap legs from a breakers yard only
to find that they are not the easy conversion that everybody says. Plan B as
I have now found out is 2.8i capri struts. This will give you vented discs
and some stopping power. You will still have to change the lower suspension
arms for adjustable ones but that is vital anyway.
I am based in London and if I can be of any assistance please feel free to
Email after removing spam from address.
Adrian.spa...@btinternet.com
Good luck with your project.
Alan Eardley
regulations allow only modifications that were available at the time.
Personally I doubt that the scrutineers would know the difference between
Classic and Capri III struts. I would consult Milton Race Preparation - the
105E gurus - if I were MRB.
Alan
In article <7v15u7$5tp$1...@plutonium.btinternet.com>, Gr...@btinternet.com
says...
Fletch
I'm more of a Mk1 Escort and sometime Cortina man myself but I do have a
full collection of "Cars and Car Conversions" magazine going back to late
1965 and on browsing through them I have noticed may articles on tuning and
suspension mods for Anglias. If you want I'll have a closer look and see
what I can come across and may be able to give you full details. Let me know
exactly what you need.
All the best, Neil
MRB7484 <mrb...@aol.com-JUNQUE-> wrote in message
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Clive Turnbull
Does > anyone know if I will be able to use the complete hub assy, or is
it machine
> shop time? <<
Didn't the Anglia 1200 Super have discs on the front?
Cheers
Clive
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Clive Turnbull wrote in message
<09991005104210....@cwcom.net>...
>>> I plan on using a set of Girling 14 calipers from a Cortina donor.
>Does > anyone know if I will be able to use the complete hub assy, or
is
>it machine
>> shop time? <<
>
>Didn't the Anglia 1200 Super have discs on the front?
>Cheers
>Clive
>
was to swop with the Ford Classic / Consul Capri front uprights and
hubs as a complete assembly....
MRB7484
calipers from a Cortina donor.
>>Does > anyone know if I will be able to use the complete hub assy, or
>is
>>it machine
>>> shop time? <<
>>
>>Didn't the Anglia 1200 Super have discs on the front?
>>Cheers
>>Clive
>>
>S'cuse me if I'm covering old ground but, I thought the acknowledged mod
>was to swop with the Ford Classic / Consul Capri front uprights and
>hubs as a complete assembly....
>
<<Replying to both posts at once>>
The 1200 Super is a 105E isn't it? I still haven't picked up the car yet, so
I'm working under the assumption of drums all around.
The Classic/Capri does seem to have been the donor of choice, but they are
thin on the ground on this side of the pond
Roger Chapman
from mrb...@aol.com-JUNQUE- (MRB7484) contains these words:
> The 1200 Super is a 105E isn't it? I still haven't picked up the car
> yet, so I'm working under the assumption of drums all around.
The 105E was the new look (swept back window) 997cc Anglia introduced
in 1959 although that designation appears to also cover the car when
fitted with the 1198cc engine when the Super 123E (same bodyshape,
superior trim and finish) was introduced in October 1962.
The Super had wider drum brakes.
Roger
Clive Turnbull
car yet, so I'm working under the assumption of drums all around. <<
Yes I am sure it is.Probably the Classic/Capri were nearer the era but
as you say the are a bit thin on the ground and I thought that the 1200
Super 105E might not be too difficult to adapt.I may be wrong :-( but I
could have sworn my 1200 Super had discs but Roger may well be right(the
brain fades). Good luck Clive
R SVEINSON
> S'cuse me if I'm covering old ground but, I thought the acknowledged mod
> was to swop with the Ford Classic / Consul Capri front uprights and
> hubs as a complete assembly....
Cortina bits are used to convert to disc brakes as well
Leda in the UK make struts etc for the Anglia.
And I am sure maybe that front struts etc from the later Capris
*not the Classic Capri*
would work with a minimum amount of work.
Cheers
Robert in Winnipeg Canada.
Roger Chapman
from cstur...@cwcom.net (Clive Turnbull) contains these words:
> :-( but I
> could have sworn my 1200 Super had discs but Roger may well be right(the
> brain fades).
Too true (about brain fade) and my experiences with Anglias is
confined to 105Es anyway. However the source of my information was:
a) August 1974 Motorists Guide (a less well known competitor to
Parkers Guide) (the oldest price guide I now have having thrown out
dozens when I last moved in 1978). The info on drum brakes and
superior trim was a direct quote.
b) August 1975 Parkers Guide. The is much less precise. All it says
of the Anglia Super by way of brakes is "Larger brakes than the
previous model" but I would have thought that if they were fitted
with discs (rare at the time) it would have said Other Fords with
front discs rate a mention. Earliest mention I could see (apart from
Cortina-Lotus) was Corsair 2000 introduced in Jan 1967.
Roger
Dave Plowman
Roger Chapman <r.ch...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> b) August 1975 Parkers Guide. The is much less precise. All it says
> of the Anglia Super by way of brakes is "Larger brakes than the
> previous model" but I would have thought that if they were fitted
> with discs (rare at the time) it would have said Other Fords with
> front discs rate a mention. Earliest mention I could see (apart from
> Cortina-Lotus) was Corsair 2000 introduced in Jan 1967.
IIRC, the first production Fords fitted with disc brakes were the
'Lowline' Consul/Zephyr range, and I think at least initially as an option.
The Classic, again IIRC, had them as standard. But I reckon they were
never fitted to a production Anglia.
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Roger Chapman
from Dave Plowman <dave....@argonet.co.uk> contains these words:
> > b) August 1975 Parkers Guide. The is much less precise. All it says
> > of the Anglia Super by way of brakes is "Larger brakes than the
> > previous model" but I would have thought that if they were fitted
> > with discs (rare at the time) it would have said Other Fords with
> > front discs rate a mention. Earliest mention I could see (apart from
> > Cortina-Lotus) was Corsair 2000 introduced in Jan 1967.
> IIRC, the first production Fords fitted with disc brakes were the
> 'Lowline' Consul/Zephyr range, and I think at least initially as an
> option. The Classic, again IIRC, had them as standard. But I reckon they
> were never fitted to a production Anglia.
Not sure the dates of that particular range but looking through the
74 Motorists Guide (only goes back to 1965) I picked up on 2 earlier
Fords fitted with front discs. Cortina Super (Oct 1964) and Corsair
V-4 (Sept 65) (larger front disc brakes). Possibly there has been
some confusion between Cortina Super and Anglia Super.
Roger
Clive Turnbull
some confusion between Cortina Super and Anglia Super. <<
Probably in my brain!:-)
Problem is,it was a long time ago and the company I worked
for(Mangoletsi)did specialise in tuning modifications and it is possible
that the Anglia Super company vehicle I ran had already been modified.I
know the engine had.After a major blow up I fitted one of our converted
Cortina GT marine engines which were bored to 1650cc and had twin
Strombergs.I used to burn out exhaust valves on the original 1200cc
engine running flat out from the south coast and up the M1 and M6 which
were then nearly empty!!It went well but the carbs were always going off
as I remember. Those were the days!(or were they)
Dave Plowman
Roger Chapman <r.ch...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Not sure the dates of that particular range but looking through the
> 74 Motorists Guide (only goes back to 1965) I picked up on 2 earlier
> Fords fitted with front discs. Cortina Super (Oct 1964) and Corsair
> V-4 (Sept 65) (larger front disc brakes). Possibly there has been
> some confusion between Cortina Super and Anglia Super.
The Anglia 1200 was introduced in 1962. The Consul Classic and Capri in
'61. The Zephyr Mk 111 came out in '62, and again IIRC, the Lowlines had
discs for a couple of years before that.
Andrew W. Macfadyen
Zodiac model, these were end of line models only produced for short time
before being replaced by the finned Z car model. Anglias never got discs
having tiny 8 inch drums in all versions, indeed they were rare on the MK1
Escort only being found on the top end models.
The 1500cc engined versions of (Consol) Classic and (Consol) Capri had
discs as did the 1500 Super, GT versions of the Cortina. The Corsair had
these small discs but they were later enlarged to the type used on the
Cortina Lotus.
Andy
>
MRB7484
All of which brings me back ot one of my original questions. : Does anyone
know if the hubs from a later disc braked model will fit on the 100E spindles?
Given the scarcity of early Anglias (at least ones that haven't been trurned
into 7litre monsters) in the US, I can't compare part numbers in the catalog.
Mark
Andy
> All of which brings me back ot one of my original questions. : Does anyone
> know if the hubs from a later disc braked model will fit on the 100E spindles?
>
Even if they did, the disk calipers wouldn't fit the flange for the drum brake
backplate. A friend of mine fitted disk brakes to his 100E Prefect in about 1973
and I think he used Classic struts and brakes complete but of course the wheels
didn't fit having stud holes at 6" pcd so I believe he carried two spare wheels.
The Classic struts were a fairly simple job to fit to a 105E Anglia but the 100E
had different track control arms and anti-roll bar. I think my friend had to get
the track control arms lengthened by someone with a welder. All this is a bit
academic now, all surviving Classic struts will have been fitted to 105Es. If you
cannot find anyone who has done this recently you will have to have a good look
around the breakers' yards for something suitable. The things that have to be made
to fit include the height of the top mounting, length of the track control arm,
length and method of attachment of the anti-roll bar and steering arms and all the
various angles - castor, camber etc.
You will also need a new master cylinder with a large reservoir to allow for disk
pad wear.
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les....@cars.u-net.com
by some machining to the hubs. It was many years ago so I cant
remember exactly how - I think it involved machining one of the
bearing housings to allow the bearings to be closer together for the
shorter stub axle.
We were told that it had been tried many times & couldnt be done but
it worked fine for 3 years till the car was sold & It wasnt a
difficult job. (caliper brackets were oxycut from plate & fixed by the
back plate fixings if I remember correctly)
Hope this is of some use
Les
On 25 Oct 1999 03:06:44 GMT, mrb...@aol.com-JUNQUE- (MRB7484) wrote:
> I'm preparing to prepare a 100E for vintage rallying. The governing body
>recommends (and I concur) fitting disc brakes in the front.
> At present I don't have the struts or spindles handy (I said I was
>'preparing' to prepare) to measure. Has anyone done this sort of a conversion?
>
> I plan on using a set of Girling 14 calipers from a Cortina donor. Does
>anyone know if I will be able to use the complete hub assy, or is it machine
>shop time?
>
> While I'm asking, can anyone point me to documentation for period speed
>modifications? I'll need to show evidence for any mods I make and a little more
>carb would be a good thing.
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
>
>Mark Becht MRB...@aol.com
> Corben Super Ace builder
> Ford Cortinae (that's plural!) Owner
> Collector of Lost Causes and Orphans
>(Formerly cali...@crl.com - and yes I should know better than AOL)
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