V6 in a Triumph Spitfire?
Chris
>
> I have a 1996 Triumph Spitfire and I was looking to put a 6 cylinder
> engine (preferably domestic) into it. I was wondering if there were any
> suggestions on what engines might work the best. And maybe any
> suggestions on how the opperation should be performed. Thanks for any
> help.
sorry guys it is actually a 1966 Spitfire
Chris
ge...@deleteonestep.co.uk
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Ian Johnston
: How about the Triumph straight 6 that was fitted to the GT6 :-)
Far too heavy, lousy handling as a result.
Ian
Simon Turner
Chris wrote:
> I have a 1966 Triumph Spitfire and I was looking to put a 6 cylinder
> engine (preferably domestic) into it. I was wondering if there were any
> suggestions on what engines might work the best. And maybe any
> suggestions on how the opperation should be performed. Thanks for any
> help.
Why the change - what are your aims?
If it's just power then you could use an injected GM 2.0 16v.
If you want a hint at originality you could use a straight 6 Triumph
(like the GT6).
This could be a 2000 from a Triumph 2000 or you could go all the way
and run a 2.5 PI. Probably best to use the gearbox that goes with the
engine ...
... but I still wonder why you want to do it ! - why not just 'tune'
what you already have ??
Cheers,
Simon
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Pete Lucas
> I have a 1996 Triumph Spitfire and I was looking to put a 6 cylinder
> engine (preferably domestic) into it. I was wondering if there were any
> suggestions on what engines might work the best. And maybe any
> suggestions on how the opperation should be performed. Thanks for any
> help.
Why go for something so big? Unless it's an alloy
engine, it's bound to be heavier than the engine it
replaces, which will do horrible things to the handling.
Why not consider a 1600cc Rover K-series motor?
Small, light, compact, runs on unleaded, loves to rev,
and produces *lots* of power... 115BHP in stock form,
but can easily be tweaked to 140BHP and more...
If you're feeling rich, you could mate it with the
Caterham-type 6-speed gearbox too...
//PJML//
chris_l
>I have a 1996 Triumph Spitfire and I was looking to put a 6 cylinder
>engine (preferably domestic) into it. I was wondering if there were any
>suggestions on what engines might work the best. And maybe any
>suggestions on how the opperation should be performed. Thanks for any
>help.
A chap I met once had a Spit with an ex-works TR6 engine in it. It went
extremely well... It seemed to fit without too much trouble.
Chris Lloyd
Trojan Horse
writes
>I have a 1996 Triumph Spitfire and I was looking to put a 6 cylinder
>engine (preferably domestic) into it. I was wondering if there were any
>suggestions on what engines might work the best. And maybe any
>suggestions on how the opperation should be performed. Thanks for any
>help.
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TROJAN HORSE ©1998
Trojan Horse
writes
>I have a 1996 Triumph Spitfire and I was looking to put a 6 cylinder
>engine (preferably domestic) into it. I was wondering if there were any
>suggestions on what engines might work the best. And maybe any
>suggestions on how the opperation should be performed. Thanks for any
>help.
We did this with an Austin 12!
Went like **** off the proverbial shovel!
--
TROJAN HORSE ©1998
Robert Pearce
<pj...@not-for-mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk> writes
>Chris wrote:
>> I have a 1996 Triumph Spitfire and I was looking to put a 6 cylinder
>> engine (preferably domestic) into it. I was wondering if there were any
>> suggestions on what engines might work the best. And maybe any
>> suggestions on how the opperation should be performed. Thanks for any
>> help.
>
>engine, it's bound to be heavier than the engine it
>replaces, which will do horrible things to the handling.
>
>Why not consider a 1600cc Rover K-series motor?
>Small, light, compact, runs on unleaded, loves to rev,
>and produces *lots* of power... 115BHP in stock form,
>but can easily be tweaked to 140BHP and more...
>
Or if your going that route (I'm sure I've said this before), why not
use the KV6 from the current Rover 825 ? Has the added poetic benefit of
having been developed under the code name "Merlin".
>If you're feeling rich, you could mate it with the
>Caterham-type 6-speed gearbox too...
>
>//PJML//
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Rob Pearce
(Former) Club Triumph Herald derivatives consultant
The above views and opinions are mine, and do not necessarily reflect Club
Triumph policy.
Nick Wells
the UK is an upgrade to Triumph GT6 mechanicals, inc. the 2 litre straight
six, which should bolt straight on. I have to admit I don't know a lot
about
the conversion, but the popularity over here suggests that it's pretty
straightforward to
do.
Hope that helps
Nick
Chris wrote in message <35ECCB...@uidaho.edu>...
Andrew Stott
Spitfire one!) as the 6 cylinder engine is longer. GT6 bonnets are rare now.
Any heavier engine will compromise the handling of the car and will be a
hassle to fit with lots of faffing about. Anyway, to increase all round
performance, before even considering the engine, it would be best to
improve:
1. Suspension. fit the swing spring suspension from a Mk 4 or 1500. Use
Koni dampers. Maybe use lowered springs.
2. Brakes. Braided hoses. Mini Cooper servo. Gt6/Vitesse discs?
3. Wheels and tyres. eg 5.5x13in. rims with 175/70 tyres.
Then look at the Spitfire engine. The later 1500 engine is easy enough to
get and will fit. A tubular manifold with sports exhaust increases BHP and
sounds excellent. Use K&N filters and change the carb needles and springs.
You could go on to upgrade the cylinder head and change to Webers.
--Andrew Stott--
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In article <35ee1216...@news.tcp.co.uk>, turn...@tcp.co.uk (Simon
Turner) wrote:
>On Tue, 01 Sep 1998 21:41:08 -0700, Chris <guid...@uidaho.edu> wrote:
>
>Chris wrote:
>
>> I have a 1966 Triumph Spitfire and I was looking to put a 6 cylinder
>> engine (preferably domestic) into it. I was wondering if there were any
>> suggestions on what engines might work the best. And maybe any
>> suggestions on how the opperation should be performed. Thanks for any
>> help.
>
Simon Turner
On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 13:47:52 +0100, "Andrew Stott" <A.S...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Then look at the Spitfire engine. The later 1500 engine is easy enough to
> get and will fit.
Don't these (1500s) have a nasty habit of throwing rods when pushed ?
Someone told me that the stroke was increased to get more capacity and on
the 1500s it is just too long ...
Is there any truth in this ??
Cheers,
Simon
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Robert Pearce
<turn...@tcp.co.uk> writes
There's a little smidgen of truth, but it's been vastly exagerated. The
1500 is a fine engine when in good fettle and well maintained. However,
the long stroke does put extra stress on the bottom end, and it's
essential to :
- Use good quality oil
- Use good quality oil filters with non-return valves
- Change the oil regularly
- Allow oil pressure to build up _before_ driving away
- Allow the engine to warm up before really booting it
That said the stroke on the 1500 is only 88mm, whereas the 2500 has 95mm
and seems to survive reasonably OK. Of course you don't rev past 4000rpm
on a 2500, at least not very often.
>--
BTW your .sig separator's broken - needs a space after the two dashes.
Paul Thorpe
into a Spit shouldn't be attempted. What you should consider is getting hold
of a GT6 and fitting a Spitfire bodytub. Apparently there are chassis
differences between the two.
Of course I could be wrong!
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In article <35ECCB...@uidaho.edu>, Chris <guid...@uidaho.edu> wrote:
I have a 1996 Triumph Spitfire and I was looking to put a 6 cylinder
j...@cableinet.co.uk
Even a 2.5 litre from a TR6 or TR250 will fit.
It will be a bit nose heavy and you will get a lot of heat soak into the cockpit.
Go for a high ratio diff (3.27) for cruising or 3.63 from a Spit 1500 for acceleration.
Any further questions I can point you to some good UK sources.
As your original article said 1996 spitfire maybe you could fix this typo.
Is your car a 76 1500 or a 66 Mk1/2?. If the latter I would venture to suggest that its worth
much more standard.....
Robert Pearce
<paul....@btinternet.com> writes
>I have a '74 Spifire 1300 and I've heard that transplanting a GT6 engine
>into a Spit shouldn't be attempted. What you should consider is getting hold
>of a GT6 and fitting a Spitfire bodytub. Apparently there are chassis
>differences between the two.
The only chassis difference is the fitment of lower rear wishbone
brackets on _some_ GT6s (those with Rotoflex suspension).
However, if you drop in a six you need :
- The Vitesse/GT6 gearbox and clutch housing
- A different gearbox mounting plate
- A shorter propshaft
- a beefier diff (not necessary if starting from a 1500)
- Uprated (GT6) rear brakes and halfshafts
- Uprated (GT6) front hubs and brakes
- a GT6 bonnet
so all in all it's easier to start from a GT6 and drop a Spitfire body
tub on.
Robert Sveinson
Chris wrote:
> I have a 1996 Triumph Spitfire and I was looking to put a 6 cylinder
> engine (preferably domestic) into it. I was wondering if there were any
> suggestions on what engines might work the best. And maybe any
> suggestions on how the opperation should be performed. Thanks for any
> help.
Some years ago a fellow I knew bolted a Mazda Rotary Engine and gearbox.
It went like a scalded cat, and saved weight too.
Marc Argent
Pete Lucas wrote in message
<35ED25...@not-for-mail.nerc-swindon.ac.uk>...
>Chris wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure you know all of this bit by now...
>>
>
>Why go for something so big? Unless it's an alloy
>engine, it's bound to be heavier than the engine it
>replaces, which will do horrible things to the handling.
>
>Small, light, compact, runs on unleaded, loves to rev,
>and produces *lots* of power... 115BHP in stock form,
>but can easily be tweaked to 140BHP and more...
>
>Caterham-type 6-speed gearbox too...
>
>//PJML//
Has anyone performed this conversion? If so, how hard is it to do? And (most
important) how expensive!
Sounds like a pretty good idea to me - I need a bit of extra speed, I've
still got a clean licence ;-)
Marc Argent