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Which Was The More Upmarket When New - Wolseley Hornet Or Riley Elf?

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Jonathan McCormack

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Jan 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/13/99
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I've always wondered that and what is the main difference between the cars.

Thanks

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Graham Glen

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In article <Ku4n2.4401$%5....@news-reader.bt.net>, Jonathan McCormack
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>I've always wondered that and what is the main difference between the cars.
>

The main difference that I'm aware of is that the Riley had twin carbs,
as against the single in the Wolseley.

I can't remember offhand whether the brakes were different on the Riley
(I think they might have been larger or wider drums), no doubt someone
will be along in a minute who knows.

Graham
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William Davies

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Jan 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/13/99
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Jonathan,
Not a definitive answer, but the Elf has a full width wood dash where
the Hornet has the mini's 3 clock binacle with some veneer stuck on top!
The Elf certainly has a more luxurious feel. Doubtless the definitive
answer will come from someone more knowledgable than I!
Cheers,
Bill.

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> I've always wondered that and what is the main difference between the cars.
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Ian Johnston

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Jan 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/13/99
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William Davies (w.da...@virgin.net) wrote:

: Not a definitive answer, but the Elf has a full width wood dash where


: the Hornet has the mini's 3 clock binacle with some veneer stuck on top!
: The Elf certainly has a more luxurious feel. Doubtless the definitive
: answer will come from someone more knowledgable than I!

There used to be a supercharged Hornet living in Oxford - anyone know if
that was a common mod?

Ian

Leroy Curtis

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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In article <Ku4n2.4401$%5....@news-reader.bt.net>, Jonathan McCormack
<McCor...@BelfastCity.Gov.UK> writes
>I've always wondered that and what is the main difference between the cars.
>
The 2 cars were mechanically identical, using (in Mk I form, at least)
the standard Mini 848cc single-carb set-up. The Riley had a full-width
wooden dashboard with lidded gloveboxes either side of the central
instrument cluster, whilst the Wolseley simply had the standard Mini
3-dial instrument pack with wood between the gauges. I think the Riley
was slightly more expensive: the original "Autocar" road test from 1962
states that it was the most expensive Mini variant then available by
£15, at £693 18s 11d, but I'm not sure whether the Hornet was the next
most expensive; I would guess that it was. I suppose that would make the
Elf the more upmarket of the two.

ISTR the Mk II cars used the 998cc standard Mini 1000 engine, but I have
no handy reference for this.
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Graham Glen

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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In article <bgRFYBAJ...@irving.demon.co.uk>, Graham Glen
<Gra...@irving.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <Ku4n2.4401$%5....@news-reader.bt.net>, Jonathan McCormack
><McCor...@BelfastCity.Gov.UK> writes
>>I've always wondered that and what is the main difference between the cars.
>>
>
>The main difference that I'm aware of is that the Riley had twin carbs,
>as against the single in the Wolseley.
>
>I can't remember offhand whether the brakes were different on the Riley
>(I think they might have been larger or wider drums), no doubt someone
>will be along in a minute who knows.
>

Whoops, I just realised I'm talking b*****ks. I was thinking of the
Riley 1.5 - the Riley & Wolseley based on the Minor floorpan.

Graham (with head hanging low)

William Davies

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Jan 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/14/99
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Ian,
Most of the Shorrock SUpercharger kits I've encountered have been for
the A-series engine, so I assume it could have been fitted to Mini
variants - I don't know how generous the bonnet clearances would be? I
wish I could afford one for one of the Heralds!
Cheers,
Bill.

Ian Johnston wrote:
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> There used to be a supercharged Hornet living in Oxford - anyone know if
> that was a common mod?
>
> Ian

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On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:37:48 -0800, William Davies
<w.da...@virgin.net> wrote:
>Ian,
> Most of the Shorrock SUpercharger kits I've encountered have been for
>the A-series engine, so I assume it could have been fitted to Mini
>variants - I don't know how generous the bonnet clearances would be? I
>wish I could afford one for one of the Heralds!
> Cheers,
> Bill.
>
>Ian Johnston wrote:
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>>
>> There used to be a supercharged Hornet living in Oxford - anyone know if
>> that was a common mod?
>>
>> Ian
There is a new article in Mini World Magazine which features a '69
Cooper S 1275 with a Shorrock super charger.
If you don't have access to the mag, I will see if I can get it
scanned so's everyone here can see it.
As far as placement, it sits on the felt hand side ( Continental or
North American drivers side) bulk head/fire wall, above the front
cross member where the clutch and brake master cylinders are
positioned.
Hence, I never bought the one offered to me, because I didn't want a
right hand drive Mini here in Canada!
One sweet setup for right hand drive Mini's
Cheers
Ryan

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