4" PCD hubs for a Herald?
Ian
I am giving the Rebel its annual titivate before the winter. It could
really do with new front shoes but these (same as a Herald or a 105E
Anglia) are no unobtainable. So I am giving some thought to converting
to disk brakes. The braking side is dead easy: the upraight is from a
Herald and I have two complete disk-braked Herald uprights available -
they'll slot straight in.
The problem is the hub, because dear old Reliant didn't go the whole
hog with Herald bits. Oh dear me no. The brake are from a Ford Anglia
and the hub is Reliant's own, running on a Vitesse stub axle.
However ... I can solve all this if I can simply find disk braked hubs
for Herald front suspension which has 4" PCD wheel studs. And I have
found them - Marcos and Ginettas used them, it seems, and replacements
are to be had at
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/ALLOY-HUBS-Alloy-Hubs/c415_416/index.html
However
1) They are light alloy rather than cast iron. Do I worry about this?
The Rebel is fairly light, but still a ton four-up.
2) They are £123 a pair.Which is more in the context of a Reliant
Rebel than it would be for a Ginetta. If anyone knows of a cheaper
part which would do the job, please let me know.
Ian
PS The canonical solution is apparently to go with Herald hubs and
wheels, up to 13" from 12", and put Minor wheels on the back to get
the same diameter. Having different wheels front and back strikes me
as a fair old bodge, though.
Conor
e84621...@c60g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Ian says...
> Dear All,
>
> I am giving the Rebel its annual titivate before the winter. It could
> really do with new front shoes but these (same as a Herald or a 105E
> Anglia) are no unobtainable.
You sure? Try the lads at 105speed.com. Email them and ask them because
if they haven't got any, they're likely to know someone who has.
--
Conor
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Ian
> In article <a0ce7492-f6ae-4d05-85c5-
> e84621782...@c60g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Ian says...
>
> > Dear All,
>
> > I am giving the Rebel its annual titivate before the winter. It could
> > really do with new front shoes but these (same as a Herald or a 105E
> > Anglia) are no unobtainable.
>
> You sure? Try the lads at 105speed.com. Email them and ask them because
> if they haven't got any, they're likely to know someone who has.
Duly emailed - but there does seem to be a dearth of these things. I
thought I'd got lucky on eBay, but they turned out to be wide shoes
for a 123S Super Anglia, mislabelled. Still, the seller took them back
and refunded me in full!
Ian
Dave Plowman (News)
<a0ce7492-f6ae-4d05...@c60g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Ian <ian.g...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> I am giving the Rebel its annual titivate before the winter. It could
> really do with new front shoes but these (same as a Herald or a 105E
> Anglia) are no unobtainable.
I'm sure you could get new linings, though. If bonded on that might be a
pro job. But I've riveted ones at home.
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Ian
> In article
> <a0ce7492-f6ae-4d05-85c5-e84621782...@c60g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> Ian <ian.gro...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > I am giving the Rebel its annual titivate before the winter. It could
> > really do with new front shoes but these (same as a Herald or a 105E
> > Anglia) are no unobtainable.
>
> I'm sure you could get new linings, though. If bonded on that might be a
> pro job. But I've riveted ones at home.
Yes, indeed. I've been thinking about doing a swap to disk for some
time, though, and the problem with shoes is just one prompt to think
about doing it now. The other is that I have just (yesterday!)
dismantled a Herald 13/60 front suspension which has almost-new
swivels, axles and calipers, so all I need to find is hubs and the job
is relatively easy.
Ian
Phil
> Dear All,
>
> I am giving the Rebel its annual titivate before the winter. It could
> really do with new front shoes but these (same as a Herald or a 105E
> Anglia) are no unobtainable. So I am giving some thought to converting
> to disk brakes. The braking side is dead easy: the upraight is from a
> Herald and I have two complete disk-braked Herald uprights available -
> they'll slot straight in.
>
> The problem is the hub, because dear old Reliant didn't go the whole
> hog with Herald bits. Oh dear me no. The brake are from a Ford Anglia
> and the hub is Reliant's own, running on a Vitesse stub axle.
>
> However ... I can solve all this if I can simply find disk braked hubs
> for Herald front suspension which has 4" PCD wheel studs. And I have
> found them - Marcos and Ginettas used them, it seems, and replacements
> are to be had at
>
>
> However
>
> 1) They are light alloy rather than cast iron. Do I worry about this?
> The Rebel is fairly light, but still a ton four-up.
>
> 2) They are £123 a pair.Which is more in the context of a Reliant
> Rebel than it would be for a Ginetta. If anyone knows of a cheaper
> part which would do the job, please let me know.
>
> Ian
>
> PS The canonical solution is apparently to go with Herald hubs and
> wheels, up to 13" from 12", and put Minor wheels on the back to get
> the same diameter. Having different wheels front and back strikes me
> as a fair old bodge, though.
Herald hubs, redrilled to 4" PCD?
Ian
The thought had occurred to me. However, it would be a fairly non-
trivial job: the existing stud hole would need filled (weld?) and then
new ones drilled. Beyond what I have the equipment to do, let alone
skills ... I might ask my friendly local machine shop, but I suspect
that the alloy ones might yet be cheaper.
Ian
Phil
As there are only 4 studs, remove them and redrill indexed by 45
degrees. How much would a machine shop charge for 8 holes?
Jim Warren
> Dear All,
>
> I am giving the Rebel its annual titivate before the winter. It could
> really do with new front shoes but these (same as a Herald or a 105E
>
> Ian
The other option is to get your existing shoes relined. You might find
somewhere suitable here:
http://www.ferodo.co.uk/ferodo_home/uk_reline.aspx
A while ago I had shoes for a rover P4 relined here:
http://www.apd.co.uk/
and they seem to be able to get hold of most things, so it might be
worth giving them a call. Their website does refer to brake shoes and
brake drums.
Jim
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember Ian <ian.g...@btinternet.com>
saying something like:
>However ... I can solve all this if I can simply find disk braked hubs
>for Herald front suspension which has 4" PCD wheel studs. And I have
>found them - Marcos and Ginettas used them, it seems, and replacements
>are to be had at
It's a shame they're not 4.5" because Reliant had a habit of using
Triumph parts on the front suspension and there are plenty of Scimmy
parts around.
John
On the link, they're priced each.
John
Ian
> Are you sure the price is per pair?
> On the link, they're priced each.
I have now realised that, and am putting the plans on hold. There is
also an issue about locating the wheels. So I'll stick with drums for
now: the long term idea is to adapt Herald hubs, but that will be a
fair bit of machining...
Ian