At what point will you give up caravanning?
A700
this year.
I think we can all accept that this is highly likely, so, what's the price
point that will make you abandon caravanning? Remember, that's almost £7.50
per gallon - or about 25 miles of towing.
I'm getting twitchy about it now - ever rising fuel costs, site fees,
insurance costing far more than for the car that tows the van, rip-off
servicing, where they do bugger all and charge you up to £200 for their
idleness.
Soon, I feel, enough will be more than enough, and I will give up this
pastime after 25 years of enjoying touring.
Anyone else contemplating the same?
g...@nospam.co.uk
wrote:
No, and I tow with a Range Rover. However, to soften the wallet, it
does run on LPG. I will never return to the London CC sites, and I
can see these sites having a hard time of it.
My local servicing centre is very good - no complaints so far - and my
insurance via the CC is competitive. Mind you, I do tow a 1994
Carlight, not a new van (wouldn't change).
I am in the happy position that I can caravan at any time, but I do
avoid peak times at popular camp sites.
I do find that, once on site and set up, I forget about the journey to
the site and enjoy the stay.
4x4 RR, Carlight Countess 15/2, both 1994
Paul - xxx
> Apparently, fuel is reliably predicted to top #1.50 per litre by the
> end of this year.
>
> I think we can all accept that this is highly likely, so, what's the
> price point that will make you abandon caravanning? Remember, that's
> almost #7.50 per gallon - or about 25 miles of towing.
>
> I'm getting twitchy about it now - ever rising fuel costs, site fees,
> insurance costing far more than for the car that tows the van,
> rip-off servicing, where they do bugger all and charge you up to
> #200 for their idleness.
>
> Soon, I feel, enough will be more than enough, and I will give up
> this pastime after 25 years of enjoying touring.
>
> Anyone else contemplating the same?
Nope.
We are exploring alternatives though ...I now run my Landrover on a mix
of diesel and vegetable oil. At 52/56p a litre it's cheap enough to
make a big difference to cost.
I don't think they can price us out of caravanning, we love it so much
and as we go most weekends we'd just find another alternative means to
do it if it got prohibitive, such as seasonal or longer term siting..
--
Paul - xxx
'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch'
'98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed'
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough'
Dave D
"A700" <noco...@thisaddress.com> wrote in message
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> Apparently, fuel is reliably predicted to top £1.50 per litre by the end
> of this year.
>
As the whole premise of your post is based around this 'reliable prediction'
I would like to know where you obtained this information?
Regards.
Dave.
Mary Fisher
> of this year.
>
> I think we can all accept that this is highly likely, so, what's the
> price point that will make you abandon caravanning? Remember, that's
> almost £7.50 per gallon - or about 25 miles of towing.
You must have a big rig.
>
> I'm getting twitchy about it now - ever rising fuel costs, site fees,
> insurance costing far more than for the car that tows the van, rip-off
> servicing, where they do bugger all and charge you up to £200 for their
> idleness.
You don't need insurance (we can't insure our 'vans) and you could do your
own servicing.
>
> Soon, I feel, enough will be more than enough, and I will give up this
> pastime after 25 years of enjoying touring.
>
> Anyone else contemplating the same?
Not us. We'll give up when we're physically unfit to do it, perhaps in the
next ten years.
Mary
>
>
Mary Fisher
"Dave D" <parNOSP...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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also dissatisfied with other costs and lack of confidence in servicing.
Mary
g...@nospam.co.uk
<mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
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>You don't need insurance (we can't insure our 'vans) and you could do your
>own servicing.
<snip>
>Mary
Having been on the wrong side of a side swipe, I can say you most
certainly do. If you can't insure your 'vans (why?), then fine, but I
would say it is a sensible thing to do for others..
Gary
Dave D
"Mary Fisher" <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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I'll get my coat :-)
But I would still like to hear where he got this 'reliable information'.
Regards
David.
Mary Fisher
>
>
> I'll get my coat :-)
NO!
> But I would still like to hear where he got this 'reliable information'.
So would I. But usually when people say that they quote a BBC site ... :-(
Mar
Mary Fisher
<g...@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:13:18 -0000, "Mary Fisher"
> <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>You don't need insurance (we can't insure our 'vans) and you could do your
>>own servicing.
>
> <snip>
>>Mary
>
> Having been on the wrong side of a side swipe, I can say you most
> certainly do. If you can't insure your 'vans (why?),
Thjey're too old.
> then fine, but I
> would say it is a sensible thing to do for others..
If we had a side swipe we'd repair it. We've already rebuilt both of them
:-) It's very satisfying and you KNOW you've got a good job.
Mary
>
> Gary
A700
You think I'm lying?
It was on the Guardian website - and since I've just seen a local garage
advertising Petrol @ 109p per litre and diesel @ 122p per litre I think that
their informed prediction might well be on the optimistic side.
Carry on ignoring it by all means - but watch you don't get too much sand in
your ears.
A700
>
> "A700" <noco...@thisaddress.com> wrote in message
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>> Apparently, fuel is reliably predicted to top £1.50 per litre by the end
>> of this year.
>>
>> I think we can all accept that this is highly likely, so, what's the
>> price point that will make you abandon caravanning? Remember, that's
>> almost £7.50 per gallon - or about 25 miles of towing.
>
> You must have a big rig.
20 litre diesel, 1400 kg van
> You don't need insurance (we can't insure our 'vans)
I don't think I could drag 12k worth of van around without insurance ;)
and you could do your
> own servicing.
Indeed - but I need a damp inspection to maintain the warranty - I'm on the
lookout for someone who will just do the damp test without the rest of the
'checking' nonsense. Since the 'checking' is where the bastards make their
money I'm not hopeful.
Da...@nothere.com
Where are you A700?
I may know somebody who will help you out.
Mary Fisher
>
>>
>> You must have a big rig.
>
> 20 litre diesel, 1400 kg van
Pretty big.
>
>
>
>> You don't need insurance (we can't insure our 'vans)
>
> I don't think I could drag 12k worth of van around without insurance ;)
I wouldn't want a 12K van :-) And we tow ours, we don't drag them ...
>
>
>
> and you could do your
>> own servicing.
>
> Indeed - but I need a damp inspection to maintain the warranty - I'm on
> the lookout for someone who will just do the damp test without the rest of
> the 'checking' nonsense. Since the 'checking' is where the bastards make
> their money I'm not hopeful.
You really do seem upset about it. We believe that you shouldn't complain
unless you do something about it.
>
>
>
Nebulous
I gave up last year and bought a tent and trailer.
The driving force was us acquiring a small car unexpectedly. As petrol
prices have risen we have not regretted the decision.
The savings have been quite impressive. We do miss the caravan in colder
weather. In October last year we borrowed my father's caravan and this
Easter we are considering renting a cottage.
The major driving force for many people giving up is going to be the
unavailability of credit. Many, many fancy rigs have been paid for by
remortgaging. As property prices drop and lending criteria tightens many
people will be forced to give up.
Neb
A700
I can't say that I care what 'you believe' - if faced with a choice of
giving up caravanning or roaming around like a penniless Gippo with a
home-repaired mobile chicken hut in tow, then it's 'goodbye touring'
If I want to live like a tramp I'll book in at my local Salvation Army
hostel.
Mary Fisher
LOL! You have no idea!
>
> If I want to live like a tramp I'll book in at my local Salvation Army
> hostel.
You could do much worse I believe - not that I have any experience ...
Mary
>
>
Dave D
During the late 50s and 60s as part of my duties in another life I had many
times to visit the 'Sally Annes' at Limehouse near the East India Docks. I
never fancied sleeping there. Taking a cup of tea was always a bit of a
worry. But for the residents it was a better deal than the streets or a
police cell. So it all depends where you start from doesn't it? The
Salvation Army were the only ones offering anything to those with nothing.
Regards.
David.
A700
Actually, the 'modern' Salvation Army are money grubbing shites - using
their charitable status to evade taxation, whilst extracting as much money
from the state for their hapless inmates as possible.
They are a far cry from William Booth's 'blood & fire' Salvationists, who
carried the gospel into the heart of Britain's city slums, and who lived\as
equals amongst the people they desired\to save.
They now accept almost everything, and eschew almost nothing - they condone
the filth of homosexuality, have nothing to say on the abortion slaughter,
and appear to be preoccupied with enriching themselves at the expense of
those for whom they purport to care.
May their money perish with them.
Jim Kewley
<noco...@thisaddress.com> writes
>They now accept almost everything, and eschew almost nothing - they condone
>the filth of homosexuality, have nothing to say on the abortion slaughter,
>and appear to be preoccupied with enriching themselves at the expense of
>those for whom they purport to care.
>
>May their money perish with them.
>
>
Dear me I was almost on the verge of taking your side in your
discussions with Mary. However on reading the above I realise that Mary
is not the real nut here. By comparison with you Mary is quite rational.
Do you believe in Armageddon and the Rapture too?
--
Jim
Mary Fisher
>
...
>
> Actually, the 'modern' Salvation Army ...
...
You really are a discontented person aren't you.
We've had several here before, they don't usually last long because they
don't impress the happy caravanners and we maintain our integrity without
vilification of others.
We also use our own names.
Mary
hugh
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
Roy
>
> The major driving force for many people giving up is going to be the
> unavailability of credit. Many, many fancy rigs have been paid for by
> remortgaging. As property prices drop and lending criteria tightens many
> people will be forced to give up.
>
> Neb
>
>
No need to develop a 12v version of the 'Mosquito' then!
Roy
Nebulous
"Roy" <r...@pikey.ie> wrote in message news:fpa3gb$b26$1...@aioe.org...
A variation on the mosquito theme I have heard is that children are
acquiring very high pitched ringtones for their mobile phones. They can then
leave them on in class as they can hear them 'ring' but their teachers
can't!
Neb