M6 Toll - charges for disabled drivers
Al Stevenson
I have been on to the toll company who said::
"I can confirm that you are able to tow a caravan with your car and use
your mobility exemption pass providing all of the details are correct
i.e., you are using the correct car and the person to whom the mobility
exemption pass relates to is in the vehicle."
So disabled drivers, once registered for the M6 toll, will be able to
take their caravan with no charge!
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Just to make it clear, drivers must apply for an exemption certificate
before using the toll road free-of-charge. It's no use turning up at
the booth and pointing at your 'blue badge', because you will still have
to pay if you don't have the certificate.
You can get full details and an application form at
http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp
Mr Womby
David
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> In article <zyZ0xqD6zI1$Ew...@ntlworld.com>, Al Stevenson <al-stevenson@n
> tlworld.SPAMTRAP.com> writes
> >Further to an earlier thread
> >
> >I have been on to the toll company who said::
> >
> >"I can confirm that you are able to tow a caravan with your car and use
> >your mobility exemption pass providing all of the details are correct
> >i.e., you are using the correct car and the person to whom the mobility
> >exemption pass relates to is in the vehicle."
> >
> >So disabled drivers, once registered for the M6 toll, will be able to
> >take their caravan with no charge!
>
>
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DaveK
> >take their caravan with no charge!
>
France.
Disabled drivers applying for an exemption certificate will have to pay five
pounds for 'admin costs'.
The exemption will be granted to the vehicle, not the disabled person.
Fair? (ROB).
DaveK.
DaveK
> --
femurs, upper limbs, and jaws due to being crashed into by an old car driven
by a wizened idiot who was unable to read a number plate at five metres.
A car is a useful method of travelling to medical appointments.
DaveK.
DaveK
> France.
Just read that it is 27 miles, so have to take that back. It's only double
the price of a French toll.
DaveK.
bill lord
As a person who has a blue badge in my vehicle. I see no reason at all
why there should be any exceptions made at any time for charges made
to drivers of vehicles covered by a blue badge. The idea as I
understand it is to give access to places that would be otherwise very
difficult for a disabled person to gain access to, not to give
financial advantage to the person holding the badge. As to the useful
method of travelling to medical appointments, the vast majority of
hospitals that I visit these days charge people, who have appointments
for treatment at the hospital, for parking on their car parks. Again
if I choose to I can get round this cost by displaying my Blue badge,
but this is yet another form of discrimination that your average
member of the public has to put up with. My solution is to use the
blue badge to gain access to the places reserved but to pay the
relevant charge anything else would for me be hypocracy
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Simon Hawthorne
>A car is a useful method of travelling to medical appointments.
.......but why should they be excempt from paying when the original
road is still open and working? Don't get me wrong, I sympathise with
the plight of disabled folk - I just don't see what makes their case
for FOC passage more important than many other groups of society...
....and because I like a good debate!
Simon
David
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> A car is a useful method of travelling to medical appointments.
With a caravan!
Stuart Bell
> £5 for just over ten miles, that's 500% more than a toll autoroute in
> France.
Actually, French toll rates vary hugely.
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I fully agree as I have a "Blue badge" and would not like to be seen to be
gaining any financial advantage.
Yes we do, and are allowed to, park in places that others have to pay, or
are not allowed to park in, but that is a stationary case - when we need to
be close to the point of where we alight.
When moving all these things disappear and we are equal to all others on the
road.
I do not like paying charges at all but - if others have to when driving
their vehicles - so will I.
We do it in France!!!
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Simon Hawthorne
wrote:
>With a caravan!
My point exactly David!
David
"Simon Hawthorne" <si...@thehawthornes.org> wrote in message
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Maybe its the long NHS waiting times maybe not 2 or 3 hours but 3 or 4 days.
Simon Hawthorne
wrote:
>Maybe its the long NHS waiting times maybe not 2 or 3 hours but 3 or 4 days.
....with local hospitals opening CLs next door to their 'In
patients'.....?
Stop it.... this is going to get me into trouble!
S.
gill107
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> Do not want to sound awful but why should some people go FOC?
> --
> Regards,
> David
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I'm not disabled nor is my partner but I can well imagine that with some
disabilities sitting in a car in a traffic jam or very slow moving traffic
could cause at the least extreme discomfort. In the driver's case that
discomfort might lead to an accident situation.
I can't see hundreds of drivers with the exemption certificate descending on
the toll extension just for the sheer hell of it can you?
The disabled get little enough, leave the relative few who will use the road
some small pleasure.
Gillian
Mary Fisher
> >
>
> Maybe its the long NHS waiting times maybe not 2 or 3 hours but 3 or 4
days.
I went for a hospital outpatient visit this morning. I got there at 8.55 am
for a 9 am appointment.
It would have been about 9.30 if I'd been taken by car and dropped, probably
more like 10 if I'd had to find parking. That's one reason we use the
scooter when we don't need the carrying or towing capacity of the car. The
scooter was fastened up within yards of the main door, causing no
obstruction and costing nothing.
By the way, I was seen at 9 am. It's not always the NHS but the individual
departments which are inefficient.
Mary
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DC
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I think I started this thread by asking a couple or more questions , one was
when did the M6 toll open , , I think the answer to that is within the next
24Hours.
I may have also asked if caravans were included in the *free pass* the
disabled got for their vehicles but I don't think so.
It is only those with the FULL Mobility that will get a *free pass* , they
don't hand those out wily nily , in fact mines due for renewal in the next
few months , I hope I'm allowed back to work where I can stop being a burden
on my family and less importantly stop being labelled a scrounger.
Finally I choose my time to travel with the caravan and in the last couple
of years have not had any major hold ups on the M6 with the caravan only
having problems when travelling with my wife's car which would not be
exempt.
Still there's other roads that get me to Dover or Pompeii quicker than the
M6 or M1
Cheers All
DeeSee
M.H. Greaves.
invalid carriages, we used to see a few years ago; one towing a caravan, i
shudder at the thought of that!!
Sorry, dont mean to look down on the folks who had one, its just an amusing
thought thats all!news:br2fqg$27e4f3$1...@ID-191093.news.uni-berlin.de...
M.H. Greaves.
where this is happening, actually i know nothing about it, where and when is
this going to happen? or is it happening already, and is it on the M6 as we
know it?
OR, (interesting thought) have i been HAD??!!
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Alex Heney
And just why should that entitle them to use the expensive shortcut
for free?
If it were the only reasonable way they could get there, fine. But it
isn't.
I fully understand why disabled people should have special rights for
parking, and get their general road tax free. But I don't see why they
should be able to use toll roads free unless those roads are the only
reasonable route.
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Simon Hawthorne
<gillian...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>In the driver's case that
>discomfort might lead to an accident situation.
Surely they shouldn't be driving at all if this were the case?
S.
Budgie
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|
| I fully understand why disabled people should have special rights for
| parking, and get their general road tax free. But I don't see why they
| should be able to use toll roads free unless those roads are the only
| reasonable route.
|
All Blue Badge (BB) holders have the same parking rights (eg parking on
double yellows for 3 hours etc). However, only a minority with severe
mobility problems qualify for free road tax and VAT-free car purchase -
because those persons have no other reasonable means of mobility.. AFAIK
only the latter will qualify for toll exemption on the M6.
Budgie
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> "Alex Heney" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> |
> | I fully understand why disabled people should have special rights for
> | parking, and get their general road tax free. But I don't see why they
> | should be able to use toll roads free unless those roads are the only
> | reasonable route.
> |
>
> All Blue Badge (BB) holders have the same parking rights (eg parking on
> double yellows for 3 hours etc). However, only a minority with severe
> mobility problems qualify for free road tax and VAT-free car purchase -
> because those persons have no other reasonable means of mobility.. AFAIK
> only the latter will qualify for toll exemption on the M6.
But ALL blue badge holders qualify for free passage over the severn bridge
to Wales and although my wife is a BBH and she qualifies, we both think
it's wrong.
Bob
David
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>
> All Blue Badge (BB) holders have the same parking rights (eg parking on
> double yellows for 3 hours etc). However, only a minority with severe
> mobility problems qualify for free road tax and VAT-free car purchase -
> because those persons have no other reasonable means of mobility.. AFAIK
> only the latter will qualify for toll exemption on the M6.
>
I do not see why parking is allowed around here at all on double yellow
lines. This is because there are lots special parking areas just for
disabled badge holders., just as near, just as near.
Motorbility cars are these free/subsidised?
House opposite me has a car just like mine, the holder of this car is at
home but the car is on the carpark of the partners place of work? My car
paid for by my earnings, the other is Motorbilities.
Gray
found the fee for vehicles
Not a thing there about Trailers or caravans
Has anyone got a response from htem I mailed them yesterday and I'm still
waiting
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Stuart Bell
> By the way, I was seen at 9 am. It's not always the NHS but the individual
> departments which are inefficient.
The main problem is no-shows. People just don't turn up. So,
aircraft-style, they over-book to keep the consultants busy. Then
everyone turns up one morning!
Matt B
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> Went and checked out the website for the toll road
>
> found the fee for vehicles
>
> Not a thing there about Trailers or caravans
Look again at: http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/chart.pdf
GBP 5.00 by day, GBP 4.00 by night.
Matt B
Gray
Didn't down the PDF's
and they ain't charging me £3 for a trailer when the car's only £2
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Budgie
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| Budgie wrote:
|
| But ALL blue badge holders qualify for free passage over the severn
bridge
| to Wales and although my wife is a BBH and she qualifies, we both think
| it's wrong.
That's true. It depends on the individual operating companies. The Tyne
Tunnel, for example, only exempts disabled tax-class vehicles (that is, not
paying road tax). BB holders have to pay.
Budgie
| I do not see why parking is allowed around here at all on double yellow
| lines. This is because there are lots special parking areas just for
| disabled badge holders., just as near, just as near.
Not necessarily. There isn't always a car park near the shop that you want
to get to.
| Motorbility cars are these free/subsidised?
| House opposite me has a car just like mine, the holder of this car is at
| home but the car is on the carpark of the partners place of work? My car
| paid for by my earnings, the other is Motorbilities.
Motability cars are available if the disabled person receives the higher
rate of Disabled Living Allowance. The DLA rate has to be made over to
Motability, usually with a top-up payment as deposit, so it's not
necessarily a cheap way of owning a car. On the other hand, it does ensure
that the disabled person has reliable transport.
If a car has to be modified to enable the disabled person to drive it, the
car can be purchased with no VAT. Any modifications (hand controls on our
car were £1400) have to be paid for separately.
Simon Hawthorne
wrote:
>
>Went and checked out the website for the toll road
>
>found the fee for vehicles
Don't know - but just used a section of it...... and very nice it was
too!! A 10 mile stretch knocked 15 minutes off my journey. Nearest
junction is only 4 miles from home so I'm sure to become a regular.
Just need to pursuade my company to pay for it - as my time spent in
the office is far better than time sitting on the M6.....
S.
Mary Fisher
> > By the way, I was seen at 9 am. It's not always the NHS but the
individual
> > departments which are inefficient.
>
> The main problem is no-shows. People just don't turn up. So,
> aircraft-style, they over-book to keep the consultants busy. Then
> everyone turns up one morning!
I'm sure that applies in many clinics but I doubt that it does in the one I
attend ...
Mary
Mary Fisher
> > All Blue Badge (BB) holders have the same parking rights (eg parking on
> > double yellows for 3 hours etc). However, only a minority with severe
> > mobility problems qualify for free road tax and VAT-free car purchase -
> > because those persons have no other reasonable means of mobility.. AFAIK
> > only the latter will qualify for toll exemption on the M6.
>
> But ALL blue badge holders qualify for free passage over the severn
bridge
> to Wales and although my wife is a BBH and she qualifies, we both think
> it's wrong.
She could insist on paying - or put the amount into a charity box.
Mary
> Bob
>
Mary Fisher
That's a very good point.
Although Spouse isn't registered disabled there are times when he's in great
pain and we both reckon it could distract his concentration so I usually
drive.
It's no problem.
Mary
>
> S.
>
James W. West
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>
It's motability not motorbility and the scenario you describe is not allowed
under the motability rules. The car is for the use of the person- or on
their behalf such as getting their shopping and is not allowed to be used
for other purposes.
James
Richard Cole
wrote:
>All Blue Badge (BB) holders have the same parking rights (eg parking on
>double yellows for 3 hours etc).
on double yellows, but it is at their discretion.
In Bournemouth they will (and have) booked everyone on double
yellows, blue badge or not, especially on 'no unloading' areas.
>However, only a minority with severe
>mobility problems qualify for free road tax and VAT-free car purchase -
>because those persons have no other reasonable means of mobility.. AFAIK
>only the latter will qualify for toll exemption on the M6.
Also only those who qualify for free road tax are able to park in
pay car parks, for free. All others have to pay (in Dorset at
least).
Richard
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> > --
>
> It's motability not motorbility and the scenario you describe is not
allowed
> under the motability rules. The car is for the use of the person- or on
> their behalf such as getting their shopping and is not allowed to be used
> for other purposes.
>
Thanks for the spelling.
Allowed or not it is happening.
It is a cheap/free way to get a new family car, every 3 (?) years.
James W. West
Its a bit more difficult than you make out!
To qualify for the higher rate of mobility component the person has to be
unable, or virtually unable to walk. This will often involve a great deal of
discomfort/ pain.
This mobility component is given to people in that situation to help them
with their mobility costs.
It can be swopped for a car- although anything other than a very small car
will require a cash payment as well. The deal includes servicing maintenance
and insurance- although any damage to the vehicle needs to be paid for at
the end of the 3 years. The person concerned also has to pay for all the
petrol. So people effectively pay around Ł160 per four weeks for the car.
As I said earlier it is not a family car. It is for the use of the person
who is disabled, not for all the family. The partner of the person shouldn't
be dropping off or collecting the children for instance.
Motability will take vehicles away if abuse is reported.
James
Fred
> I do not see why parking is allowed around here at all on double yellow
> lines.
> Motorbility cars are these free/subsidised?
> House opposite me has a car just like mine,
Are you folks actually envious that you are not disabled?
I've never heard such crap.
Keeping up (down) with the Jones's?
I meet complete arseholes at work, I thought it was localised.
Budgie
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| This is a police matter. They 'overlook' disabled badge holders
| on double yellows, but it is at their discretion.
|
| In Bournemouth they will (and have) booked everyone on double
| yellows, blue badge or not, especially on 'no unloading' areas.
|
The discretion is limited to whether the vehicle is causing an obstruction
or not.
Parking on no-unloading areas (stripes on kerbs) is not allowed under BB
rules
Budgie.
Joseph Roulstone
this road.
I'm all in favour with disabled persons getting free parking etc, but
why should this apply to Toll roads.
They should pay like the rest of use.
Pensioners shouldn't have to pay.
Joe R
Stuart Bell
> They should pay like the rest of use.
>
> Pensioners shouldn't have to pay.
So a multi-millionaire 66 year old shouldn't pay, but a worker on £10K
per annum should? That's just as arbitrary as the disabled badge
exclusion.
Joseph Roulstone
So you say all disabled drivers are poor ? I don't think so.
Disabled does not mean people are Poor, down on their luck or out of
work.
And ALL pensioners regardless of assets , yes , should be free. They
have worked all their lives and earns it.
Joe R
Stuart Bell
> I get less than 10 k Retired and not disabled and I have to pay. !
>
> So you say all disabled drivers are poor ? I don't think so.
Read what people write before replying. It does help. I stated that
letting pensioners go for free is just as arbitrary as disabled people
going for free.
Mary Fisher
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> Joseph Roulstone <j.rou...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
> > They should pay like the rest of use.
> >
> > Pensioners shouldn't have to pay.
>
> So a multi-millionaire 66 year old shouldn't pay,
I would guess that there are very few of them
> but a worker on Ł10K
And not so many of those.
> per annum should? That's just as arbitrary as the disabled badge
> exclusion.
I agree. I'm a pensioner (except that I don't get one) and my husband's
pension (i.e. our income) is less than Ł10K. But I don't think we should
have exemption from tolls.
Mary
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wrote:
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>| This is a police matter. They 'overlook' disabled badge holders
>| on double yellows, but it is at their discretion.
>The discretion is limited to whether the vehicle is causing an obstruction
>or not.
Budgie.
Obstruction is easy. The policeman stands up in court and says
'In my opinion the vehicle was causing an obstruction.'. End of
case.
Richard
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>>So a multi-millionaire 66 year old shouldn't pay,
>
> > I would guess that there are very few of them
>
There are hundreds of thousands of millionaires in Britain, and it
stands to reason that the older you are, the more chance you have of
getting rich...
>
>>but a worker on £10K
> And not so many of those.
The bottom third of the British workforce earns £10,000 a year or less.
That's quite a lot.
Sam
Phil Kyle
>Mary Fisher wrote:
>
>>>So a multi-millionaire 66 year old shouldn't pay,
>>
>> > I would guess that there are very few of them
>>
>
>There are hundreds of thousands of millionaires in Britain, and it
>stands to reason that the older you are, the more chance you have of
>getting rich...
>
>
>>
>
>> And not so many of those.
>
>
>Sam
>
And the rest of them waste their money on abominations like caravans.
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Mary Fisher
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:36:03 -0000, "DaveK" <da...@fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Do not want to sound awefull but why should some people go FOC?
> >> --
> >Because some people have suffered muliple fractures of the pelvis, both
> >femurs, upper limbs, and jaws due to being crashed into by an old car driven
> >by a wizened idiot who was unable to read a number plate at five metres.
> >A car is a useful method of travelling to medical appointments.
> >DaveK.
>
> As a person who has a blue badge in my vehicle. I see no reason at all
> why there should be any exceptions made at any time for charges made
> to drivers of vehicles covered by a blue badge. The idea as I
> understand it is to give access to places that would be otherwise very
> difficult for a disabled person to gain access to, not to give
> financial advantage to the person holding the badge. As to the useful
> method of travelling to medical appointments, the vast majority of
> hospitals that I visit these days charge people, who have appointments
> for treatment at the hospital, for parking on their car parks. Again
> if I choose to I can get round this cost by displaying my Blue badge,
> but this is yet another form of discrimination that your average
> member of the public has to put up with. My solution is to use the
> blue badge to gain access to the places reserved but to pay the
> relevant charge anything else would for me be hypocracy
>
>
>
> bill...@ntlspamworld.com (remove the spam to reply)
> I've taken a vow of poverty, to annoy me send money
I agree.