www.caravanningamigos.co.uk
muzz
I am the owner of a fairly new caravanning website and I am trying to
build up it's membership. If you are interested pay a visit we have
meets throughout the UK and Europe this year we visited Croatis for
our summer meet and it was that popular we are going there again next
year.
We have a forum full of information which is free to join.
We also have a section for trip reports where members report on their
trips away.
Any coments on how the site can be improved would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Muzz
hugh
<d528253e-645f-42fb...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
muzz <mu...@caravanningamigos.co.uk> writes
years. It's full of information and is free to join. Just ask a question
and almost certainly someone will be able to answer it and offer advice.
Members can also report on their trips away if they wish and comment on
the sites they visit.
It also has the advantage, unlike forums of being unmoderated and free
from censorship,
The only weakness is that prats like you can come along and sue it to
advertise for your own gain whilst pretending to offer some form of
service.
--
hugh
It may be more complicated but is it better?
bill lord
<mu...@caravanningamigos.co.uk> wrote:
>I am the owner of a fairly new caravanning website
The advantage of this site is that nobody owns it that is what makes
it such a good forum.
Bill Lord
I've taken a vow of poverty To annoy me send money
e-mail messages to bill dot lord at uku dot co dot uk
( Get rid of the spaces and use symbols for the hyphen at and dots )
DieSea
"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:OS2KeDLO...@raefell.demon.co.uk...
You're being a bit tough on him Hugh
But carry on
I wonder if its the same person trying a differant guise
Dangling a differant bait and trying to harvest email addresses
DieSea
David Klyne
"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:OS2KeDLO...@raefell.demon.co.uk...
> It's full of information and is free to join. Just ask a question and
> almost certainly someone will be able to answer it and offer advice.
> Members can also report on their trips away if they wish and comment on
> the sites they visit.
>
> It also has the advantage, unlike forums of being unmoderated and free
> from censorship,
>
> The only weakness is that prats like you can come along and sue it to
> advertise for your own gain whilst pretending to offer some form of
> service.
> --
> hugh
> It may be more complicated but is it better?
>
I suppose Hugh's reply also illustrates why usenet, certainly as far as
uk.rec.caravanning seems a spent force to me. Firstly the number posts and
topics have shrunk to tiny proportions, there is far more information out
there now on web forums as Bill will know as he is a regularly contributor
to several other groups. As Hugh says they are moderated so rather than
being dismissive in a constructive way peopel are just plain rude on usenet,
not all but a sizable number, that in itself keeps a lot of the expertise
from contributing here. All Muzz is asking you to do is have a look at his
forum end of story. Waiting for a hail of abuse now!
David
Lunar475
Hugh and Bill
Have you had a look at the site? Well I have - it looks quite useful,
chatty and informative. In addition, my experience of other fora
indicates that moderation moderation largely excludes spam and
'contributions' from naughty schoolboys and the like - just what has
sadly brought about the demise of this group and others from their
highs of a few years ago.
hugh
<DieSea.No...@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> writes
hugh
Klyne <kl...@btinternet.com> writes
happy to use it to achieve their end.
As for abuse and nuisance I think it's a small price to pay for the
freedom that usenet brings but judicious use of my newsreader facilities
means I can kill authors or threads that I'm not interested in.
Additionally the articles come to me rather than me having to go and
seek out the articles.
Usenet is a bit like standing at the bar in a pub. Anyone can stick
their head into the conversation but if you don't like what they say you
can either pick a fight with them or just ignore them. But if you prefer
to have a nanny to look over you then by all means join a forum.
bill lord
<graham....@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>my experience of other fora
>indicates that moderation moderation largely excludes spam and
>'contributions' from naughty schoolboys and the like - just what has
>sadly brought about the demise of this group and others from their
>highs of a few years ago.
I have not seen any of the spam on here for years, it is so easy these
days to eliminate it even before it gets to the machine.
Dave D
"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
I agree with Hugh, Bill and the others about Usenet. I found Usenet and this
group when I bought my first computer ten years ago. It has given me oodles
of information and much pleasure. Like Bill says the immediacy of the
postings and non moderation are the greatest advantages. I was a bit
nervous about the 'spam' when I started but now I just delete it. Bill did
explain some years ago how to 'kill' spam but I have never managed to master
it. It doesn't matter, I don't use pubs much these days but like most men
from a working class background I have been sworn at and cursed since
childhood so have learned to ignore it and try not to pick fights.
By the way, surely somebody has towed in Poland or do I have to go to one of
these moderated forums for some info :-)
Regards.
Dave.
David Klyne
>
> I agree with Hugh, Bill and the others about Usenet. I found Usenet and
> this group when I bought my first computer ten years ago. It has given me
> oodles of information and much pleasure. Like Bill says the immediacy of
> the postings and non moderation are the greatest advantages. I was a bit
> nervous about the 'spam' when I started but now I just delete it. Bill
> did explain some years ago how to 'kill' spam but I have never managed to
> master it. It doesn't matter, I don't use pubs much these days but like
> most men from a working class background I have been sworn at and cursed
> since childhood so have learned to ignore it and try not to pick fights.
> By the way, surely somebody has towed in Poland or do I have to go to one
> of these moderated forums for some info :-)
>
> Regards.
> Dave.
after all we are only talking about caravanning! I don't mind if someone
disagrees with me but its when that turns into personal abuse it is that I
object and looking at the numbers now posting here I suspect many have come
to the same conclusion. I have tried for 63 years to become more think
skinned but I have failed miserably. I am sure if Dave F still posted here
he would instruct me in the use of spam filters! Correct moderation just
keeps things on an even keel. I know Bill has had a run in with moderation,
with no explanation, on one group but I suspect he was not the only one.
However other groups are far more sensible in the way they apply moderation.
As does the group I help moderate although some members take a different
view at times!
I would have thought that if you wanted information which was not forth
coming here to join and then to search other groups would be to your own
advantage. I think there are other groups which would be able to provide you
with information on Poland. Perhaps might even suggest a motorhome forum as
they seem to get everywhere.
David
Dave D
"David Klyne" <kl...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> I would have thought that if you wanted information which was not forth
> coming here to join and then to search other groups would be to your own
> advantage. I think there are other groups which would be able to provide
> you with information on Poland. Perhaps might even suggest a motorhome
> forum as they seem to get everywhere.
>
> David
>
Thanks David that is what I shall probably do. On the two occasions that we
went east of Berlin the only other non Germans we met were in motorhomes and
there were only a couple of them.
Regards.
Dave
bill lord
<kl...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Correct moderation just
>keeps things on an even keel. I know Bill has had a run in with moderation,
>with no explanation, on one group but I suspect he was not the only one.
>However other groups are far more sensible in the way they apply moderation.
>As does the group I help moderate although some members take a different
>view at times!
That group is UK.campsites,co,uk and the moderator on there is
completely unapproachable where if you dare to disagree with what he
has to say your messages are removed with no explanation and you then
risk being completely banned. This is cencorship of the worst kind
I also had a disagreement with one of the moderators on a forum that
you are a moderator on where I dared to disagree with one of the
moderators posted information which was untrue and I corrected him, he
became somewhat abusive so he got back what he deserved, later that
evening he removed his postings and mine which on reflection I had no
objection to. However the following morning I had an abusive message
from that same moderator ( very personal abuse and sent direct to me
via an e-mail address which any other member would not have been able
to access ) I complained to the moderating team and got no reply ( I
now know why ) and having got no reply I posted my complaint in the
forum and it was duly removed ( as expected ) so I then sent my
complaint direct to Gordon (who had removed my complaint ). I must
admit that he seemed to have sorted it out, though the moderator who
abused his position is still a modertor on your group.
I can accept modertors who explain what they do and do not abuse their
position, but I can not accept moderators who abuse the trust that is
placed in them.
bill lord
<kl...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>I would have thought that if you wanted information which was not forth
>coming here to join and then to search other groups would be to your own
>advantage. I think there are other groups which would be able to provide you
>with information on Poland. Perhaps might even suggest a motorhome forum as
>they seem to get everywhere.
He could have a look here
http://www.caravantalk.org.uk/topic/30431-spending-some-time-in-poland/
and if he registers then he can ask a bit more in that thread.
David Klyne
"bill lord" <wally...@uku.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bnolf5hqjrv3ukl22...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:12:15 -0000, "David Klyne"
> <kl...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Correct moderation just
>>keeps things on an even keel. I know Bill has had a run in with
>>moderation,
>>with no explanation, on one group but I suspect he was not the only one.
>>However other groups are far more sensible in the way they apply
>>moderation.
>>As does the group I help moderate although some members take a different
>>view at times!
> position, but I can not accept moderators who abuse the trust that is
> placed in them.
> Bill Lord
I have to agree but even mods have to learn and some make a harder job of
that than others! 98% of posts on all forums are not controversial but the
2% that are usually cause a lot of problems. One of the problems with being
a mod, especially when you first become one, is to understand that it is a
different relationship and you don't have the freedom to post and comment as
a non mod if you see what I mean! Still glad I persuaded to come over to the
dark side! Otherwise who would I have to help defend the CC?
David
bill lord
<kl...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> One of the problems with being
>a mod, especially when you first become one, is to understand that it is a
>different relationship and you don't have the freedom to post and comment as
>a non mod if you see what I mean!
I am aware of that I spent some time a good few years ago moderating
several conferences on the Open University web site. I would not do it
again though.
bill lord
<mu...@caravanningamigos.co.uk> wrote:
>Any coments on how the site can be improved would be appreciated.
No new posts in the last 24 hours makes it a very unattractive
proposition
Lunar475
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:56:27 -0800 (PST), muzz
>
> >Any coments on how the site can be improved would be appreciated.
>
> No new posts in the last 24 hours makes it a very unattractive
> proposition
> Bill Lord
> I've taken a vow of poverty To annoy me send money
>
> e-mail messages to bill dot lord at uku dot co dot uk
> ( Get rid of the spaces and use symbols for the hyphen at and dots )
Not sure how different that is to this one Bill. It's a wet'n windy
November.
How many new posts have there been on here in the last two weeks?
Lunar475
No new posts on here for the last 24 hours either.......... :-)
caravanningamigos
> In message
> <d528253e-645f-42fb-96e3-9da6d1e03...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> muzz <m...@caravanningamigos.co.uk> writes
Thanks for your support and advice Hugh. Your warm welcome has made me
want to come here more often.
Bill and everone else thanks for your support.