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James Kemp

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May 16, 2009, 5:03:44 PM5/16/09
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I've recently inherited a Swift Danette. I would like to insure it and
need the chassis number to do so. It is not obvious where to find it and
I wondered if anyone could suggest where I might find it.

Unhelpfully I don't know what year it was manufactured, but the 'van has
the following 'features':
- green exterior
- "Fellows" vitreous enamel hotplate and sink drainer
- Maxol oven
- Carver space heater
- Electrolux fridge (3 way)
- cold water only
- 2 x 12 pin plugs
- internal toilet which was retro-fitted to be a cassette

Delivered weight is listed as 670kg, max as 850kg.

Any help you can offer about age and location of the chassis number would
be gratefully received.

Thanks.

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bill lord

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May 16, 2009, 6:25:17 PM5/16/09
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Presumably you got those weights off the plate on the caravan the
number you require is usually on the same plate as the weights.

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James Kemp

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May 17, 2009, 4:49:12 AM5/17/09
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 23:25:17 +0100, bill lord <wally...@uku.co.uk>
allegedly wrote:
> On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:03:44 GMT, James Kemp <ne...@none.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>I've recently inherited a Swift Danette. I would like to insure it and
>>need the chassis number to do so. It is not obvious where to find it and
>>I wondered if anyone could suggest where I might find it.
>>
>>Delivered weight is listed as 670kg, max as 850kg.
>
> Presumably you got those weights off the plate on the caravan the number
> you require is usually on the same plate as the weights.

No, got them out a very tatty book, which for some reason doesn't have a
year or any other helpful details about date or where to find the chassis
number in it. Google hasn't been much help either. Did find a suggestion
that it was on the chassis next to the handbrake, but crawling around to
look from all angles didn't shed any light.


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Geoff Lane

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May 17, 2009, 4:52:28 AM5/17/09
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bill lord <wally...@uku.co.uk> wrote in
news:q8fu05tu30k1q45l2...@4ax.com:

> Presumably you got those weights off the plate on the caravan the
> number you require is usually on the same plate as the weights.

If it's not there, it's often stamped into the drawbar or on a plate in
that position - though you usually have to remove the drawbar fairing to be
able to read it.

HTH,

Geoff

Dougal

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May 17, 2009, 4:55:03 AM5/17/09
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James Kemp wrote:
> On Sat, 16 May 2009 23:25:17 +0100, bill lord <wally...@uku.co.uk>
> allegedly wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:03:44 GMT, James Kemp <ne...@none.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I've recently inherited a Swift Danette. I would like to insure it and
>>>need the chassis number to do so. It is not obvious where to find it and
>>>I wondered if anyone could suggest where I might find it.
>>>
>>>Delivered weight is listed as 670kg, max as 850kg.
>>
>>Presumably you got those weights off the plate on the caravan the number
>>you require is usually on the same plate as the weights.
>
>
> No, got them out a very tatty book, which for some reason doesn't have a
> year or any other helpful details about date or where to find the chassis
> number in it. Google hasn't been much help either. Did find a suggestion
> that it was on the chassis next to the handbrake, but crawling around to
> look from all angles didn't shed any light.

Probably somewhere on the A-frame. The problem could be that the detail
may have been on a rivetted plate which has since been lost - any sign
of holes that could have attached a plate? It is quite possible that a
hard stamped number may exist either under the plate location or elsewhere.

Dougal

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May 17, 2009, 5:10:42 AM5/17/09
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Dougal wrote:

Aren't Swift still in business? Have you done the obvious and asked them?

http://www.swiftgroup.co.uk/home

Dieseldes

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May 17, 2009, 12:46:22 PM5/17/09
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"James Kemp" <ne...@none.org.uk> wrote in message
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I have had a couple of Danettes, depending how old it is, which can guessed
by the type of handles whether moulded or bolt on, before 1990 after 1990
(approx), also the layout changed over the years,
My 1989 had the id plate just by the bottom of the door. I can't remember
where the earlier one was.
Around 1990 they had a couple of versions, one had the oven and hot water
and cassette toilet and one had cold water only. and portapotti
A photograph of the exterior and the interior may give a clue
I also have a couple of manuals somewhere about for the pre 1990 version
I suspect yours may be an earlier one

Des

James Kemp

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May 18, 2009, 1:37:06 AM5/18/09
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On Sun, 17 May 2009 10:10:42 +0100, Dougal
<DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> allegedly wrote:
>
> Aren't Swift still in business? Have you done the obvious and asked
> them?
>
> http://www.swiftgroup.co.uk/home

I have e-mailed them, if I get a reply I'll pass the message on.

James Kemp

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May 18, 2009, 1:41:04 AM5/18/09
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On Sun, 17 May 2009 17:46:22 +0100, "Dieseldes" <des...@orange.net>
allegedly wrote:
> "James Kemp" <ne...@none.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:QSFPl.184178$Oi7...@newsfe23.ams2...
>>
>> I've recently inherited a Swift Danette. I would like to insure it and
>> need the chassis number to do so. It is not obvious where to find it
>> and I wondered if anyone could suggest where I might find it.
>
> I have had a couple of Danettes, depending how old it is, which can
> guessed by the type of handles whether moulded or bolt on, before 1990
> after 1990 (approx), also the layout changed over the years, My 1989
> had the id plate just by the bottom of the door. I can't remember where
> the earlier one was.

Mine has bolt on handles rather than moulded. I'll have a look around the
door area as well as another look on the A frame around the drawbar.

> Around 1990 they had a couple of versions, one had the oven and hot
> water and cassette toilet and one had cold water only. and portapotti

That latter sounds like the description my cousin gave me when I agreed
to take on the caravan. She couldn't remember exactly how old it was
though. Things always seem to be longer ago than you thought they were...

> A photograph of the exterior and the interior may give a clue I also
> have a couple of manuals somewhere about for the pre 1990 version I
> suspect yours may be an earlier one

I'll dig out some and stick them on the web.

James Kemp

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May 19, 2009, 1:25:31 AM5/19/09
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On Sun, 17 May 2009 09:55:03 +0100, Dougal
<DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> allegedly wrote:
>
> Probably somewhere on the A-frame. The problem could be that the detail
> may have been on a rivetted plate which has since been lost - any sign
> of holes that could have attached a plate? It is quite possible that a
> hard stamped number may exist either under the plate location or
> elsewhere.

It almost certainly is. I got a reply from Swift which said:

"All Swift caravans manufactured prior to 1992 had the serial / chassis
number stamped on the 'A' frame. Caravans manufactured after 1992 had the
serial number etched on all windows at eye level as well as being stamped
on the 'A' frame."

So looks like I need to take another much closer look at the A Frame.
With luck either the plate is well concealed, either that or I'll need to
hope that they punched through it onto the chassis. Might have to take a
screwdriver to assist in the search.

bill lord

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May 19, 2009, 6:19:39 AM5/19/09
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On Tue, 19 May 2009 05:25:31 GMT, James Kemp <ne...@none.org.uk> wrote:

>It almost certainly is. I got a reply from Swift which said:
>
>"All Swift caravans manufactured prior to 1992 had the serial / chassis
>number stamped on the 'A' frame. Caravans manufactured after 1992 had the
>serial number etched on all windows at eye level as well as being stamped
>on the 'A' frame."
>
>So looks like I need to take another much closer look at the A Frame.
>With luck either the plate is well concealed, either that or I'll need to
>hope that they punched through it onto the chassis. Might have to take a
>screwdriver to assist in the search.

I think that you will find that what they meant by stamped on the A
frame is stamped onto the actual chassis under the A frame cover.

James Kemp

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May 21, 2009, 9:30:31 AM5/21/09
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On Tue, 19 May 2009 11:19:39 +0100, bill lord <wally...@uku.co.uk>
allegedly wrote:
> On Tue, 19 May 2009 05:25:31 GMT, James Kemp <ne...@none.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>It almost certainly is. I got a reply from Swift which said:
>>
>>"All Swift caravans manufactured prior to 1992 had the serial / chassis
>>number stamped on the 'A' frame. Caravans manufactured after 1992 had
>>the serial number etched on all windows at eye level as well as being
>>stamped on the 'A' frame."
>
> I think that you will find that what they meant by stamped on the A
> frame is stamped onto the actual chassis under the A frame cover.

I eventually found it, on the chassis, but just behind the part where it
becomes the A frame, near the door.

That said, the plate is so dirty that I can't properly read the number
that is on it. Need to scrub it with some soapy water.

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