North of Inverness
Dave Bradshaw
access to the rivers in the Great Glen, and also the Findhorn.
I know that people have mentioned other rivers further North on this
newsgroup in the past, but I did not keep notes. Can anyone help me
with suggestions for rivers within a couple of hours of Inverness?
Thanks in advance
Dave Bradshaw
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Mark Rainsley
> I know that people have mentioned other rivers further North on this
> newsgroup in the past, but I did not keep notes. Can anyone help me
> with suggestions for rivers within a couple of hours of Inverness
Sorry to be predictable Dave...but there are guides to a number of rivers in
this area on my website (Averon, Inver, Shin, Ullapool, etc.)
I can also forward you the email of a local expert if you're interested.
Mark Rainsley
Southbourne, Dorset, UK
THE UK RIVERS GUIDEBOOK...
http://www.guidebook.free-online.co.uk
Guy Austin
Mark Rainsley wrote in message ...
>
>> I know that people have mentioned other rivers further North on this
>> newsgroup in the past, but I did not keep notes. Can anyone help me
>> with suggestions for rivers within a couple of hours of Inverness
>
>Sorry to be predictable Dave...but there are guides to a number of rivers
in
>this area on my website (Averon, Inver, Shin, Ullapool, etc.)
Yes, there are lots of rivers on your web site but how are we supposed to
know where they are?
eg River Ossain "WHERE IS IT?: In the middle of nowhere"
Get your map sorted and get it sorted soon ;-)
Guy Austin
Mark Rainsley
> Yes, there are lots of rivers on your web site but how are we supposed to
> know where they are?
> eg River Ossain "WHERE IS IT?: In the middle of nowhere"
>
> Get your map sorted and get it sorted soon ;-)
>
>
Erm..if you read the guides to this and the accompanying River Ghuilbinn you
might note that there are actually extensive explanations on how to find it,
stopping short of actually including train timetables....
But this grumble aside, I AM aware that physically locating the rivers in
the guidebook is a problem. I started with the premise that anyone could
read a map for themselves, but certainly more needs to be done to assist in
this area. I am planning to supply an alternative page for each region
(Scotland, Northern England, etc.) which subdivides the rivers into specific
localities (eg. 'near Inverness', as Dave asked). Hopefully I'll get this
done soon.
A more difficult question is that of maps. I will shortly put some 'trial'
maps in with guides and you can let me know what you think. There are
problems here...
> Should I doctor maps to show details?
> Which details?
> Do I even know how to do this?
> The web-based maps available I have seen are far from detailed or useful,
eg. www.multimap.com
> ...and you aren't supposed to steal many of their maps for website use
> Do I have a life or what?
Hopefully all these things will come to pass eventually, but bear with
me...your thoughts or suggestions appreciated.
--
Chas Couchman
and perhaps compasses as well.
Not everyone went to School or Scout's, come on Mark surely you didn't
expect everyone to be able to find the Rivers in your guidebook but giving
the names and locations is better than nothing I suppose.
On a more serious note, keep up the good work.
Chas
Mark Rainsley <ma...@guidebook.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0N5I3.5954$cm.124683@wards...
Dave Bradshaw
others have expressed, of finding the area the river is in. I simply
looked for rivers I didn't know of, but somehow missed those you have
listed. Maybe it was just too late at night and I couldn't be
bothered.
A better map would be a great help, but not that easy to do. Updating
such a map would be difficult too. I appreciate that the site is
probably taking up a fair bit of time as it is, and you don't need the
extra hassle. The site is still a great facililty, and one we should
not be without.
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:52:47 +0100, "Mark Rainsley"
<ma...@guidebook.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I know that people have mentioned other rivers further North on this
>> newsgroup in the past, but I did not keep notes. Can anyone help me
>> with suggestions for rivers within a couple of hours of Inverness
>
>Sorry to be predictable Dave...but there are guides to a number of rivers in
>this area on my website (Averon, Inver, Shin, Ullapool, etc.)
>
>I can also forward you the email of a local expert if you're interested.
>
>
>Mark Rainsley
>Southbourne, Dorset, UK
>THE UK RIVERS GUIDEBOOK...
>http://www.guidebook.free-online.co.uk
>
>
Dave Bradshaw
Simon Dawson
<ma...@guidebook.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>A more difficult question is that of maps. I will shortly put some 'trial'
>maps in with guides and you can let me know what you think. There are
>problems here...
>
>> Should I doctor maps to show details?
>> Which details?
>> Do I even know how to do this?
>> The web-based maps available I have seen are far from detailed or useful,
>eg. www.multimap.com
>> ...and you aren't supposed to steal many of their maps for website use
>> Do I have a life or what?
>
>Hopefully all these things will come to pass eventually, but bear with
>me...your thoughts or suggestions appreciated.
Hi Mark
would a simple solution be to produce a simple outline map of each
region (perhaps just showing major towns and the major rivers) with a
simple grid reference system superimposed.
Even a big area, like Scotland, could be covered with a basic 10 x 10
square grid with the grid boxes no bigger than fifty miles.
This would be enough to locate rivers close to a particular are of
interest, whilst at the same time being easy for the user and, (most
importantly) very simple for you.
hope this helps
Simon
Steve Balcombe
>Maybe you should include instructions on where to buy maps, how to read
maps
>and perhaps compasses as well.
Not sure whether you intended a ;-) there, but if you were
serious -- anyone who can't use a map and compass, or heaven
forbid doesn't even know where to buy one, shouldn't be
paddling in remote areas!!!!!!!!!!
Steve B.
Mark Rainsley
Steve Balcombe <st...@accuset.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7ssoo1$r0o$1...@gxsn.com...
I didn't get Chas's original post...still not receiving most group
posts...but can I just interject to disagree with Steve?
The beauty of rivers is that they always get you to the end of the trip,
effort and navigation hassle-free. Can you say that about mountains?
--
Steve Balcombe
>
>> serious -- anyone who can't use a map and compass, or heaven
>> forbid doesn't even know where to buy one, shouldn't be
>> paddling in remote areas!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>
>posts...but can I just interject to disagree with Steve?
>
>The beauty of rivers is that they always get you to the end of the trip,
>effort and navigation hassle-free. Can you say that about mountains?
Most of the time that's true, but it's easy to imagine a scenario
where an incident forces you to make your way out of a valley
by some route other than the river - say to evacuate a casualty
by a more direct route to a road.
Having said that - a) there are very few 'remote' rivers in the
UK, and b) I almost never carry a map (but I do read maps before
paddling in unfamiliar areas).
Could we say I'm right in theory but you're right in practice? :-)
Steve.
Seal
"Mark Rainsley" <ma...@guidebook.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
SNIP
> A more difficult question is that of maps. I will shortly put some
> 'trial'maps in with guides and you can let me know what you think.
> There are problems here...
More SNIPping
> The web-based maps available I have seen are far from detailed or
> useful, eg. www.multimap.com
> ...and you aren't supposed to steal many of their maps for website use
I have to disagree about multimap. I think it's pretty impressive
personally. As a test relating to this thread and typed in Ossian and
I'd certainly have been able to find where I was going. As for linking
lots of maps, I don't think that's a problem. I moved house recently
and found an estate agent's website that had multimap links for every
single property on it's website. It appears that you can embed the
maps in your own pages or link to the multimap site.
I'm sure you'll sort something out. Keep up the good work, and don't
forget to go paddling...
--
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Adrian J Pullin
sorry) lest you put in a link with a post code and get the correct bit
of the world back.
I think that even the wilds of Scotland are fully covered by post codes,
so this may help those who can't do O/S maps.
Mark Rainsley wrote:
>
> A more difficult question is that of maps. I will shortly put some 'trial'
> maps in with guides and you can let me know what you think. There are
> problems here...
>
> > Should I doctor maps to show details?
> > Which details?
> > Do I even know how to do this?
> > The web-based maps available I have seen are far from detailed or useful,
> eg. www.multimap.com
> > ...and you aren't supposed to steal many of their maps for website use
> > Do I have a life or what?
>
> Hopefully all these things will come to pass eventually, but bear with
> me...your thoughts or suggestions appreciated.
>
> --
> Mark Rainsley
> Southbourne, Dorset, UK
> THE UK RIVERS GUIDEBOOK...
> http://www.guidebook.free-online.co.uk
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Club Coach
Peninsula Canoe Club
Wirral
Adrian J Pullin
thus have all been tested on using a map and compass, haven't we!
:-)
Steve Balcombe wrote:
>
> >The beauty of rivers is that they always get you to the end of the trip,
> >effort and navigation hassle-free. Can you say that about mountains?
>
> Most of the time that's true, but it's easy to imagine a scenario
> where an incident forces you to make your way out of a valley
> by some route other than the river - say to evacuate a casualty
> by a more direct route to a road.
>
> Having said that - a) there are very few 'remote' rivers in the
> UK, and b) I almost never carry a map (but I do read maps before
> paddling in unfamiliar areas).
>
> Could we say I'm right in theory but you're right in practice? :-)
>
> Steve.
--
Seal
Adrian J Pullin <adr...@pullin.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm sure that at least one of the web based maps (don't know which,
> sorry) lest you put in a link with a post code and get the correct bit
> of the world back.
>
> I think that even the wilds of Scotland are fully covered by post
codes,
> so this may help those who can't do O/S maps.
Yep, that's www.multimap.com. You don't even need a Post Code, just
the place name. You don't even have to spell it correctly! They have
the whole of the UK at street level, but that's pretty recent, so maybe
when Mark looked at it there was less detail.
Adrian J Pullin
Have a look at http://www.streetmap.co.uk/
Mark Rainsley
in the Guidebook and it's a pain in the soft tender bits.
I can trace and scan outline maps, this is hardly rocket science...but I'm
totally stuck now; I'm trying to add links to 'sections' of the maps and
nothing I try works. I've been doing this through 'WORD 97' to try and keep
things simple.
So then, how do you go about producing a 'clickable' map? I'm not asking for
a full technical support service, but a few basic starter points would be
hugely appreciated as nothing I've tried works so far...
> CAN it be done through WORD?
> If not, what else will work (I have Paintshop Pro...?)
> Does the file format matter? (GIF? JPEG?)
> Etc. etc.
--
Mark (SF Brains)Rainsley
Southbourne, Dorset, UK
THE UK RIVERS GUIDEBOOK...
http://www.guidebook.free-online.co.uk
Dave Bradshaw <da...@manchestercc.dabsol.net> wrote in message
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Keith Meredith
keyboard and created:
> Currently putting together my own maps for the various regions
> in the Guidebook and it's a pain in the soft tender bits.
For our school website I found a URL which displayed local maps (and just
added a link to it. You could visit
http://www.ghps.northants.sch.uk/interm.htm or http://uk.multimap.com
to find what you want.
Best wishes
Keith
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