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Alf King

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Oct 5, 2009, 2:21:35 PM10/5/09
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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:50:57 GMT, simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

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> It has been seen in our garden about 4 times now. It eats the pears that
> have fallen from the tree.
>It is bigger that a sparrow but smaller that a pigeon. It is quite a big
>bird, its body is massive.
>Looked on all of the UK Bird sites, but there is nothing like it.
>Thanks in advance


Looks like a blackbird to me.

Alf King

Ragnar

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Oct 5, 2009, 4:50:20 PM10/5/09
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<simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> It has been seen in our garden about 4 times now. It eats the pears that
> have fallen from the tree.
> It is bigger that a sparrow but smaller that a pigeon. It is quite a big
> bird, its body is massive.
> Looked on all of the UK Bird sites, but there is nothing like it.
> Thanks in advance
>

If you want people to see the image, do not use yEnc on a non-binaries
newsgroup.
Upload to the web instead and post a link.
R.


simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk

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Oct 5, 2009, 5:01:41 PM10/5/09
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Thanks you for your response. I am a complete novice to birds, so please
don't think I am being funny.

Isn't a black bird black? Or is it that colour because it is a baby?

My first posting was slightly inaccurate. The bird in question is larger
than a blackbird buy smaller than a pigeon. This bird have a REALLY FAR
body, it almost looks like it want fly.

Regards,
Simon Brooks

Alf King

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Oct 6, 2009, 4:08:42 AM10/6/09
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On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:01:41 GMT, simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

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>Thanks you for your response. I am a complete novice to birds, so please
>don't think I am being funny.
>
>Isn't a black bird black? Or is it that colour because it is a baby?
>

It looks to be exhibiting partial albinism/leucism whichever applies
in this case. This creates a lack or reduction of pigment in certain
feather groups giving the patchwork appearance that this bird is
showing.

Judging simply from the picture it looks to have the proportions of a
Blackbird but size is difficult to determine.

This is simply my opinion, of course, and someone else may know
better.


>My first posting was slightly inaccurate. The bird in question is larger
>than a blackbird buy smaller than a pigeon. This bird have a REALLY FAR
>body, it almost looks like it want fly.
>
>Regards,
>Simon Brooks

Alf King

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simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk

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Oct 6, 2009, 5:11:27 AM10/6/09
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Please except my apologise.
I have not been able to find the best discussion group to try and find
experts to review the picture of the very unusual bird. I will NOT post a
binary to this group again.
I need to find out where I can get the most bird experts to review the
picture.

I am not into birds at all. The reason I have posted to the group is because
it is like nothing I have ever seen before.


My apologies for any inconvenience I have caused

simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk

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Oct 6, 2009, 5:19:03 AM10/6/09
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My apologies for any inconvenience I have caused. I have not been able to

find the best discussion group to try and find experts to review the picture
of the very unusual bird. I will NOT post a binary to this group again.
I need to find out where I can get the most bird experts to review the
picture. I am not into birds at all. The reason I have posted to the group
is because it is like nothing I have ever seen before.

Its is a little bigger that a blackbird, its body is very round.

http://www.sitechcreations.co.uk/bird.jpg

I wish I had been able to take a picture of the bird while it was near to
the sparrows and starlings. I didn't at the time see the relevance of
clearly being able to convey the proportional scale of the bird. At the time
i through the most important thing was to get close up.

simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk

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Oct 6, 2009, 5:20:08 AM10/6/09
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Here is a link to the picture:

http://www.sitechcreations.co.uk/bird.jpg

Its is a little bigger that a blackbird, its body is very round.

I wish I had been able to take a picture of the bird while it was near to


the sparrows and starlings. I didn't at the time see the relevance of
clearly being able to convey the proportional scale of the bird. At the time
i through the most important thing was to get close up.

Thank you for your time

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simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk

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Oct 6, 2009, 6:47:13 AM10/6/09
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You are spot on...
I found a news article about the albino blackbird and the picture is
identical. The article says they are very rare and that they normally die
because they are attached by other birds.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208680/Pictured-The-rare-partial-albino-blackbird-white-head.html
Thank you for your help.

simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk

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Oct 6, 2009, 6:47:40 AM10/6/09
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simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk

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Oct 6, 2009, 6:48:26 AM10/6/09
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You are spot on...
I found a news article about the albino blackbird and the picture is
identical. The article says they are very rare and that they normally die
because they are attacked by other birds.

Christina Websell

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Oct 6, 2009, 1:50:08 PM10/6/09
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<simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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It's a leucristic (sp?) blackbird chick. Half way between being an albino
and not.
In my opinion only.
Other views may differ.

Tina

Mike Williams

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Oct 6, 2009, 2:00:58 PM10/6/09
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There's also one that was seen at Sevenoaks last year:

http://www.treknature.com/gallery/Europe/photo185755.htm

--
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure

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Christina Websell

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Nov 14, 2009, 4:43:39 PM11/14/09
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<simonpa...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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It certainly isn't a blackbird! It looks like (perhaps) a baby pied
flycatcher but do not trust me on this. Others more expert will be along
soon hopefully.

Tina


Tony

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Nov 14, 2009, 6:27:24 PM11/14/09
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It's a partial albino Blackbird.

Tony

John M.

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Nov 17, 2009, 3:41:00 PM11/17/09
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On Nov 15, 12:27 am, Tony <t...@knutsford.eu> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:43:39 -0000, "Christina Websell"
>
>
>
> <t...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> ><simonpaulbro...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

It is indeed. One might go further and note that the head is very
worn, something that can happen in early-brood juveniles because they
don't moult until July/August and their plumage isn't that robust. The
head is always last to go in the first moult by juvenile passerines.
This is most apparent if you've ever seen young Starlings approaching
the end of their post-juvenile moult.

The sex is hard to determine but it looks like it might be a male. The
parti-colored bill is more in keeping with a first-winter bird of that
sex and the non-albino parts of the body feathers show black, though
that might be a trick of the light/exposure.

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