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Jan Smith

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May 25, 2004, 3:45:34 PM5/25/04
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This is my first post here so if there is a faq page please can someone
direct me.

We have blue tits nesting in a box that we placed in our garden for the very
first time this year, so we're new to the experience.

The adults have been feeding chicks for the best part of 3 weeks now and I
assume they'll be ready to fledge any time.

Today I've see a woodpecker on the box twice and I'm concerned for the
safety of the chicks. Any suggestions about what, if anything, we can do?
We thought about supergluing some metal around the hole to prevent the
woodpecker drilling, but are afraid in case we upset the parent tits.

Any advice please?

Jan & Mike


Christina Websell

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May 25, 2004, 4:10:02 PM5/25/04
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Jan Smith <j...@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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I'd go for it myself, and superglue some metal round the hole. I'd suggest
going out late at night with a torch and doing it then. If the woodpecker
gets in, they're dead, anyway.
Just my idea. Good luck. Let us know.

Tina


Mary Fisher

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May 26, 2004, 4:02:38 AM5/26/04
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"Christina Websell" <christina.websell@zoomdotcodotuk> wrote in message
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But would a determined woodpecker be put off by metal just round the hole?
It's capable of making a hole in all the other parts.

Trouble is that metal all round could cause condensation inside.

Beehives which have attracted the attention of woodpeckers are sometimes
protected by wire netting.

Mary
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klara

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May 26, 2004, 4:49:39 AM5/26/04
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>> > We have blue tits nesting in a box that we placed in our garden for the
>> very
>> > first time this year, so we're new to the experience.
>> > The adults have been feeding chicks for the best part of 3 weeks now and
>I
>> > assume they'll be ready to fledge any time.
>> > Today I've see a woodpecker on the box twice and I'm concerned for the
>> > safety of the chicks. Any suggestions about what, if anything, we can
>do?
>> > We thought about supergluing some metal around the hole to prevent the
>> > woodpecker drilling, but are afraid in case we upset the parent tits.
>> > Any advice please?
>> > Jan & Mike
>>
>> I'd go for it myself, and superglue some metal round the hole. I'd
>suggest
>> going out late at night with a torch and doing it then. If the woodpecker
>> gets in, they're dead, anyway.
>> Just my idea. Good luck. Let us know.
>
>But would a determined woodpecker be put off by metal just round the hole?
>It's capable of making a hole in all the other parts.
>
>Trouble is that metal all round could cause condensation inside.
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>Beehives which have attracted the attention of woodpeckers are sometimes
>protected by wire netting.
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We had the same a few years ago. We solved it by hanging a cage
(actually, the tray from the bottom of a pram) over the box. It worked
fine. Unfortunately last autumn we repainted the wall and left the cage
off, and the woodpecker is back. But we have left a peanut feeder out,
and we also make a mash out of ground-up peanuts, seeds and lard; she is
much more interested in those and only seems to check the tit box in
passing. Once the tits have fledged, though, I think we'll put the cage
back.

Klara
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Trealaw Boy

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May 26, 2004, 10:46:29 AM5/26/04
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"Jan Smith" <j...@20riverside.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<c907p2$2a9$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>...


Just let nature take its course. Aren't young woodpeckers entitled to
a decent meal too?

Christina Websell

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May 26, 2004, 5:12:09 PM5/26/04
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Well, I agree, probably they are, but you have to realise it can be
difficult for some people, including myself, I might add to see predation by
birds on other birds.
I have had this argument before with Malcolm and you have to understand that
women are reared from birth to take care of helpless things.
How else would we be prepared to waste (?) so much of our life rearing
children? when we could be doing much other exciting things? It's
conditioned.


Tina

Phil Wilson

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May 26, 2004, 5:44:32 PM5/26/04
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Christina Websell wrote:

> you have to
> understand that women are reared from birth to take care of helpless
> things.

Never worked for me.

Cheers,

Phil

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Jan Smith

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May 26, 2004, 7:10:48 PM5/26/04
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Yes, I agree that young woodpeckers are entitled to a meal as well. However,
I guess we feel sort of responsible by having the tit box in the first
place. I realise though, that if we didn't have the box they'd have found
somewhere else. Any form of human intervention could be seen as not
allowing nature to take its course. But many of us put food out don't we?
And if we didn't, then there would be less birdlife in our environment.

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sw

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May 27, 2004, 2:22:37 AM5/27/04
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"Christina Websell" <christina.websell@zoomdotcodotuk> wrote:

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> > Just let nature take its course. Aren't young woodpeckers entitled to
> > a decent meal too?
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> Well, I agree, probably they are, but you have to realise it can be
> difficult for some people, including myself, I might add to see predation by
> birds on other birds.
> I have had this argument before with Malcolm and you have to understand that
> women are reared from birth to take care of helpless things.
> How else would we be prepared to waste (?) so much of our life rearing
> children? when we could be doing much other exciting things? It's
> conditioned.

I can assure you that the conditioning sometimes fails :-)

regards
sarah

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Larry Stoter

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May 27, 2004, 3:22:45 AM5/27/04
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"Christina Websell" <christina.websell@zoomdotcodotuk> wrote:

snips ...


> women are reared from birth to take care of helpless things.
> How else would we be prepared to waste (?) so much of our life rearing
> children? when we could be doing much other exciting things? It's
> conditioned.
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> Tina

Like running around looking after men ;-))


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Mary Fisher

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May 27, 2004, 6:39:16 AM5/27/04
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"Christina Websell" <christina.websell@zoomdotcodotuk> wrote in message
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Hmm. I don't know of anything more exciting than rearing children!

Mary


Mike Coon

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May 27, 2004, 3:12:03 PM5/27/04
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Mary Fisher wrote:
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> Mary

Is that in the spirit of the ancient curse: "May you live in exciting
times"?

Mike.
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Christina Websell

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May 27, 2004, 4:19:52 PM5/27/04
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Larry Stoter <la...@cymru.freewire.co.uk> wrote in message
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No, I got over that one, I was no more born to iron clothes than a man was.
If we both have to go to work full time, then both of us need to share the
chores at home. Simple. Cook, or wash up afterwards. Hoover, or do the
shopping.
If a woman works full time, then her partner needs to share the household
chores 50/50.
What a shock this might be.
Women are not servants any more.

Tina

Christina Websell

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May 27, 2004, 4:24:09 PM5/27/04
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Mary Fisher <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Don't you? Your life must have been less exciting than mine. I cannot think
of anything much worse.

Tina


Christina Websell

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May 28, 2004, 5:58:36 PM5/28/04
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Phil Wilson <philip...@talk21.com> wrote in message
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> Christina Websell wrote:
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> > understand that women are reared from birth to take care of helpless
> > things.
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> Never worked for me.
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> Cheers,
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> Phil


Are you a woman then Phil? Phyllis? Philomena?


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German reply to follow.

Tina

Tina


Christina Websell

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May 28, 2004, 6:00:57 PM5/28/04
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sw <use...@amitiel.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Good!!


Phil Wilson

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May 28, 2004, 6:08:08 PM5/28/04
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Christina Websell wrote:
> Phil Wilson <philip...@talk21.com> wrote in message
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>> Christina Websell wrote:
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>>> you have to
>>> understand that women are reared from birth to take care of
helpless
>>> things.
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>> Never worked for me.
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>> Cheers,
>>
>> Phil
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> Are you a woman then Phil? Phyllis? Philomena?

They say, "don't knock it till you've tried it". I think I'll pass on
that one. However, I'm closely in touch with my feminine side. It
tells me what to do. All the time.


>> Das Ewig-Weibliche zieht uns hinan.
>
> German reply to follow.

Ausgezeichnet!

Cheers,

Phil


Anne Burgess

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May 29, 2004, 6:23:10 PM5/29/04
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> I have had this argument before with Malcolm and you have to understand that
> women are reared from birth to take care of helpless things.
> Tina

News to me.

Anne


Christina Websell

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May 29, 2004, 7:00:01 PM5/29/04
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Anne Burgess <anne.a...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Are you saying you were never bought a doll as a child, and a pram to take
it out in like a *real* mother?

Tina


Anne Burgess

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May 30, 2004, 4:31:23 PM5/30/04
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> Are you saying you were never bought a doll as a child, and a pram to take
> it out in like a *real* mother?

Sure I was. And I still have a splendid dolls' house which my father made for
me. But I was far more interested in Dinky cars than in trundling a pram with a
plastic doll.

Anne


Christina Websell

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May 30, 2004, 6:10:57 PM5/30/04
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Anne Burgess <anne.a...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Good for you!!! I did a lot of tree climbing.

Tina


Anne Burgess

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May 31, 2004, 3:58:34 AM5/31/04
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> Good for you!!! I did a lot of tree climbing.
> Tina

Likewise. Also cliffs. Nearly put me off birds for life when I clawed my way on
to a ledge after getting cut off by the rising tide at shore level and found
myself eyeballing a fulmar - fortunately not close enough!

Anne


Mary Fisher

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May 31, 2004, 4:20:44 PM5/31/04
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"Christina Websell" <christina.websell@zoomdotcodotuk> wrote in message
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Wellll ... in our house we do share chores - I do what I do best and he does
what he does best. I don't want to do the things he likes doing and some of
them I CAN'T do.

It's not a matter of being a servant - although I believe that we're all
servants these days - but of common sense. There's no point at all in
sharing, say, cooking if one of the pair doesn't do it as well as the other.

Birds don't share everything equally.

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Mary Fisher

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May 31, 2004, 4:21:27 PM5/31/04
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"Christina Websell" <christina.websell@zoomdotcodotuk> wrote in message
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Life's what you make it.

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Christina Websell

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May 31, 2004, 5:02:18 PM5/31/04
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Anne Burgess <anne.a...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Excellent! Glad you didn't get tooo close, they spit nasty stuff.
No cliffs here. I live just about as far from the sea as it is possible to
get in the UK.
We have fields and woods instead and abandoned gravel pits nearby for
waterfowl here in Leics.

Tina

Mary Fisher

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Jun 1, 2004, 11:15:38 AM6/1/04
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"Christina Websell" <christina.websell@zoomdotcodotuk> wrote in message
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My uncle made me a beautiful doll's house which is into its third generation
of playing by boys and girls. I had a doll (not plastic) but no pram, too
expensive. Always wanted one though and our daughters loved theirs - bought
second hand and refurbished as were their bikes and tractors.

I can't see what's wrong with dolls, if children enjoy them. They're not
forced into playing with them. Our boys loved Action Man but the girls
wanted life-like dolls, not the malformed likes of Barbie.

We played family games and listened to the radio, outside we skipped, played
shops and houses and made tents with clothes horses and blankets. If Dinky
cars were around we didn't have them, couldn't afford them I suppose. Our
firstborn loved them from being a toddler, carried one round with her
everywhere and showed adults where the 'owil' went.

There were no trees anywhere near our cobbled streets but I climbed walls -
don't suppose that counts though. Except that they're more difficult than
trees and good practice for the cliffs at Flamborough which I first almost
lived on when I was eight and fished for crabs from using limpets as bait.

There were trees on the uncle's farm but I preferred driving his tractor
when he moved on from horses, I was ten.

I don't think it had a bad effect on me, any more than if I'd played with
dolls. What's the problem with dolls anyway?

Mary
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klara King

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Jun 1, 2004, 11:39:03 AM6/1/04
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In message <40bc9d8e$0$22311$4c56...@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
Fisher <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> writes

>My uncle made me a beautiful doll's house which is into its third
>generation of playing by boys and girls.

I had one too - it had my pet white mice living in it!

Klara
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