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Michael J Davis
Nov 12, 2012, 7:58:39 AM11/12/12
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After a recent frost I decided that it was time to put out our bird
feeders again on Saturday morning.
One with peanuts, one with mixed seed.
Within a few minutes two coal tits arrived, and managed to empty the
mixed seed feeder (10" high) by Sunday evening. They achieve this by
throwing over their shoulder any seed that isn't to their liking - I
assume that they are after sunflower seeds. Even the occasional blue tit
and great tit didn't gt much of a look in.
Still a squirrel parked underneath and gathered up the seeds that were
coal-tit rejects!
Any - serious - suggestions?
Mike
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Darkside
Nov 12, 2012, 8:06:34 AM11/12/12
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In article <XDnsnsA$JPoQ...@trustsof.co.uk>, Michael J Davis
<mjdu...@trustsof.co.uk> writes
Serious? This is a newsgroup, but if you provided a second feeder with
just sunflower seeds would the coal tits feed without waste?
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Sue ]:(:)
<mjdu...@trustsof.co.uk> writes
just sunflower seeds would the coal tits feed without waste?
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Michael J Davis
Nov 12, 2012, 10:01:05 AM11/12/12
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Darkside <s...@blackhole.invalid> was inspired to say
Thanks Sue & Malcolm
I just don't trust the little blighters ;-) However, I agree it's worth
trying...
They are constantly on the feeders, usually taking it in turns: one off,
one on, to rummage through the seeds.
I said 'probably sunflower seeds' is that their favourite? I note they
go for nyjar seed when that's out as well.
I just don't trust the little blighters ;-) However, I agree it's worth
trying...
They are constantly on the feeders, usually taking it in turns: one off,
one on, to rummage through the seeds.
I said 'probably sunflower seeds' is that their favourite? I note they
go for nyjar seed when that's out as well.
Mike Coon
Nov 12, 2012, 11:07:35 AM11/12/12
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not actually eating those they did not discard but were carrying off to
cache. I believe that coal tits are notorious for this behaviour, and have
watched it myself. An aside: I recollect a report of one such cache that was
raided, as each item was deposited, by a wood mouse living nearby. Compare
and contrast magpies helping themselves to acorns newly buried by squirrels!
Mike.
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Michael J Davis
Nov 12, 2012, 12:08:32 PM11/12/12
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Mike Coon <Mike@?.+.com.invalid> was inspired to say
I was wondering that as they didn't seem to be getting any fatter. If
that's known behaviour, I do need a solution!! ;-)
>An aside: I recollect a report of one such cache that was
>raided, as each item was deposited, by a wood mouse living nearby. Compare
>and contrast magpies helping themselves to acorns newly buried by squirrels!
Doh!
that's known behaviour, I do need a solution!! ;-)
>An aside: I recollect a report of one such cache that was
>raided, as each item was deposited, by a wood mouse living nearby. Compare
>and contrast magpies helping themselves to acorns newly buried by squirrels!
Pointer
Nov 12, 2012, 1:36:58 PM11/12/12
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If not then how about setting a humane grey squirrel trap!
You can always dunk it in the river like someone I know!
P
Jim Allan
Nov 12, 2012, 5:51:17 PM11/12/12
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> Within a few minutes two coal tits arrived, and managed to empty the
> mixed seed feeder (10" high) by Sunday evening. They achieve this by
> throwing over their shoulder any seed that isn't to their liking - I
> assume that they are after sunflower seeds. Even the occasional blue tit
> and great tit didn't gt much of a look in.
>
> Still a squirrel parked underneath and gathered up the seeds that were
> coal-tit rejects!
>
> Any - serious - suggestions?
follow-up to the newsgroup:
I think Malcolm's suggestion is the way to go. For years we've enjoyed
watching coal tits taking sunflower hearts and hiding them around the
garden. This year, however, their activity has reached a new peak. At
least 5 of the little blighters, as you so aptly describe them, have
been working flat out from first light to dusk to empty the hearts
feeder. Very occasionally one will stop long enough to eat what it has
taken but this doesn't happen often. This is great entertainment and it
is fascinating to see the lengths the birds go to to find what they
consider a suitable hidey hole and the care they take in hiding the
heart. I wonder if they ever return to retrieve the hidden food - I
suspect not however I'm sure it will be eaten by other birds, mice, etc.
Jim
Gordon H
Nov 13, 2012, 5:43:07 AM11/13/12
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In message <l8-dnfPpOcv44DzN...@bt.com>, Jim Allan
<james....@btinternet.com> writes
for some of your coal tits, blue tits, or any small bird which can
compete with the incumbents.
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<james....@btinternet.com> writes
>
>I think Malcolm's suggestion is the way to go. For years we've enjoyed
>watching coal tits taking sunflower hearts and hiding them around the
>garden. This year, however, their activity has reached a new peak. At
>least 5 of the little blighters, as you so aptly describe them, have
>been working flat out from first light to dusk to empty the hearts
>feeder. Very occasionally one will stop long enough to eat what it has
>taken but this doesn't happen often. This is great entertainment and it
>is fascinating to see the lengths the birds go to to find what they
>consider a suitable hidey hole and the care they take in hiding the
>heart. I wonder if they ever return to retrieve the hidden food - I
>suspect not however I'm sure it will be eaten by other birds, mice, etc.
>
>Jim
>
I would happily trade the small army of sparrows which occupy my garden
>I think Malcolm's suggestion is the way to go. For years we've enjoyed
>watching coal tits taking sunflower hearts and hiding them around the
>garden. This year, however, their activity has reached a new peak. At
>least 5 of the little blighters, as you so aptly describe them, have
>been working flat out from first light to dusk to empty the hearts
>feeder. Very occasionally one will stop long enough to eat what it has
>taken but this doesn't happen often. This is great entertainment and it
>is fascinating to see the lengths the birds go to to find what they
>consider a suitable hidey hole and the care they take in hiding the
>heart. I wonder if they ever return to retrieve the hidden food - I
>suspect not however I'm sure it will be eaten by other birds, mice, etc.
>
>Jim
>
for some of your coal tits, blue tits, or any small bird which can
compete with the incumbents.
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PAUL {HAMILTON ROONEY}
Nov 13, 2012, 8:15:34 AM11/13/12
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It seems a marvellous arrangement.
Michael J Davis
Nov 13, 2012, 10:49:15 AM11/13/12
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Pointer <Point...@ntlworld.com> was inspired to say
>
>"Michael J Davis" <mjdu...@trustsof.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:XDnsnsA$JPoQ...@trustsof.co.uk...
>>
>> After a recent frost I decided that it was time to put out our bird
>> feeders again on Saturday morning.
>>
>> One with peanuts, one with mixed seed.
>>
>> Within a few minutes two coal tits arrived, and managed to empty the
>> mixed seed feeder (10" high) by Sunday evening. They achieve this by
>> throwing over their shoulder any seed that isn't to their liking - I
>> assume that they are after sunflower seeds. Even the occasional blue tit
>> and great tit didn't gt much of a look in.
>>
>> Still a squirrel parked underneath and gathered up the seeds that were
>> coal-tit rejects!
>>
>> Any - serious - suggestions?
>>
>
>"Michael J Davis" <mjdu...@trustsof.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:XDnsnsA$JPoQ...@trustsof.co.uk...
>>
>> After a recent frost I decided that it was time to put out our bird
>> feeders again on Saturday morning.
>>
>> One with peanuts, one with mixed seed.
>>
>> Within a few minutes two coal tits arrived, and managed to empty the
>> mixed seed feeder (10" high) by Sunday evening. They achieve this by
>> throwing over their shoulder any seed that isn't to their liking - I
>> assume that they are after sunflower seeds. Even the occasional blue tit
>> and great tit didn't gt much of a look in.
>>
>> Still a squirrel parked underneath and gathered up the seeds that were
>> coal-tit rejects!
>>
>> Any - serious - suggestions?
>>
>
>If it was a red tree rat, then buy a bird proof squirrel feeder.
>
>If not then how about setting a humane grey squirrel trap!
>You can always dunk it in the river like someone I know!
eh? My problem is coal-tits, not sqs.
>
>If not then how about setting a humane grey squirrel trap!
>You can always dunk it in the river like someone I know!
Michael J Davis
Nov 13, 2012, 10:51:28 AM11/13/12
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Jim Allan <james....@btinternet.com> was inspired to say
Thanks, Jim. Sunflower seeds are a bit pricy in these Northern parts.
But we'll give it a try.
Still the great tits and blue tits are enjoying the peanuts...
But we'll give it a try.
Still the great tits and blue tits are enjoying the peanuts...
Michael J Davis
Nov 13, 2012, 10:54:19 AM11/13/12
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Gordon H <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> was inspired to say
As a Londoner, I'm very fond of sparrows, we've had only half a dozen in
the garden in the last six years; before that it was full of them. There
are some around - mostly near the farms but the numbers are still well
down. They are welcome visitors in our garden. Delight in them while you
still have them!
the garden in the last six years; before that it was full of them. There
are some around - mostly near the farms but the numbers are still well
down. They are welcome visitors in our garden. Delight in them while you
still have them!
Christina Websell
Nov 14, 2012, 4:58:39 PM11/14/12
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Buy by the kilo, peanuts, sunflower seeds, canary seed, etc. very cheap.
>
> Thanks, Jim. Sunflower seeds are a bit pricy in these Northern parts.
> But we'll give it a try.
>
> Still the great tits and blue tits are enjoying the peanuts...
>
Wilkinsons are your friend
> Thanks, Jim. Sunflower seeds are a bit pricy in these Northern parts.
> But we'll give it a try.
>
> Still the great tits and blue tits are enjoying the peanuts...
>
Buy by the kilo, peanuts, sunflower seeds, canary seed, etc. very cheap.
Gordon H
Nov 15, 2012, 4:48:09 PM11/15/12
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In message <agiigh...@mid.individual.net>, Christina Websell
<spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
B & M are also cheap for peanuts and fat balls.
<spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
MCC
Nov 15, 2012, 5:01:02 PM11/15/12
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MCC
Gordon H
Nov 16, 2012, 6:30:47 AM11/16/12
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In message <y5df19zuuf64.1f...@40tude.net>, MCC
<mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
A large warehouse type of store.
http://www.bmstores.co.uk/
Try the store locator panel.
<mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
http://www.bmstores.co.uk/
Try the store locator panel.
MCC
Nov 16, 2012, 6:40:02 AM11/16/12
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>>Who are B&M, please?
>
> A large warehouse type of store.
>
> http://www.bmstores.co.uk/
>
> Try the store locator panel.
Nearest one is in Bristol 200 miles away!
>
> A large warehouse type of store.
>
> http://www.bmstores.co.uk/
>
> Try the store locator panel.
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Darkside
Nov 16, 2012, 7:11:42 AM11/16/12
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In article <dP5oqGIn...@g3snx.demon.co.uk>, Gordon H <Gordon_News@g
3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes
miles away from the address!
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3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes
>>>>
>>> B & M are also cheap for peanuts and fat balls.
>>
>>Who are B&M, please?
>
>A large warehouse type of store.
>
>http://www.bmstores.co.uk/
>
>Try the store locator panel.
Amusing store locator, the map places it in a gravel pit two or three
>>> B & M are also cheap for peanuts and fat balls.
>>
>>Who are B&M, please?
>
>A large warehouse type of store.
>
>http://www.bmstores.co.uk/
>
>Try the store locator panel.
miles away from the address!
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Gordon H
Nov 16, 2012, 9:54:51 AM11/16/12
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In message <6BNBNKA+...@mashtub.demon.co.uk>, Darkside
<s...@blackhole.invalid> writes
That's where the birds gather. :-)
<s...@blackhole.invalid> writes
Gordon H
Nov 16, 2012, 9:58:56 AM11/16/12
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In message <b43knt2nigz3.12jsi8gpvkl69$.d...@40tude.net>, MCC
<mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
I have 4 within 2 miles of me, closest is 1 mile!
<mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
Mike Coon
Nov 16, 2012, 10:50:16 AM11/16/12
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Gordon H wrote:
> In message <b43knt2nigz3.12jsi8gpvkl69$.d...@40tude.net>, MCC
> <mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
>> Gordon H wrote:
>>
>>> In message <y5df19zuuf64.1f...@40tude.net>, MCC
>>> <mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
>>
>>>> Who are B&M, please?
>>>
>>> A large warehouse type of store.
>>>
>>> http://www.bmstores.co.uk/
>>>
>>> Try the store locator panel.
>>
>> Nearest one is in Bristol 200 miles away!
>
> I have 4 within 2 miles of me, closest is 1 mile!
I bet they have a good bus service, too! ;-)
> In message <b43knt2nigz3.12jsi8gpvkl69$.d...@40tude.net>, MCC
> <mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
>> Gordon H wrote:
>>
>>> In message <y5df19zuuf64.1f...@40tude.net>, MCC
>>> <mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
>>
>>>> Who are B&M, please?
>>>
>>> A large warehouse type of store.
>>>
>>> http://www.bmstores.co.uk/
>>>
>>> Try the store locator panel.
>>
>> Nearest one is in Bristol 200 miles away!
>
> I have 4 within 2 miles of me, closest is 1 mile!
Michael J Davis
Nov 16, 2012, 10:38:39 AM11/16/12
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Darkside <s...@blackhole.invalid> was inspired to say
http://www.bmstores.co.uk/products/angry-birds-fuzzy-feather-flingers-
4pc-set-270689
Gordon H
Nov 17, 2012, 5:05:52 AM11/17/12
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In message <s8Sdnfi-kZNY_TvN...@brightview.co.uk>, Mike
Coon <Mike@?.+.com.invalid> writes
another 50 yards at the other end. But I use the car.
Coon <Mike@?.+.com.invalid> writes
>Gordon H wrote:
>> In message <b43knt2nigz3.12jsi8gpvkl69$.d...@40tude.net>, MCC
>> <mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
>>> Gordon H wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <y5df19zuuf64.1f...@40tude.net>, MCC
>>>> <mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
>>>
>>>>> Who are B&M, please?
>>>>
>>>> A large warehouse type of store.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bmstores.co.uk/
>>>>
>>>> Try the store locator panel.
>>>
>>> Nearest one is in Bristol 200 miles away!
>>
>> I have 4 within 2 miles of me, closest is 1 mile!
>
>I bet they have a good bus service, too! ;-)
>
>Mike.
Well, I would have to walk about 150 yards to the stop, then about
>> In message <b43knt2nigz3.12jsi8gpvkl69$.d...@40tude.net>, MCC
>> <mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
>>> Gordon H wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <y5df19zuuf64.1f...@40tude.net>, MCC
>>>> <mcc1...@gmx.co.uk> writes
>>>
>>>>> Who are B&M, please?
>>>>
>>>> A large warehouse type of store.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bmstores.co.uk/
>>>>
>>>> Try the store locator panel.
>>>
>>> Nearest one is in Bristol 200 miles away!
>>
>> I have 4 within 2 miles of me, closest is 1 mile!
>
>I bet they have a good bus service, too! ;-)
>
>Mike.
another 50 yards at the other end. But I use the car.
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Gordon H
Nov 17, 2012, 10:42:37 AM11/17/12
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<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>In article <ReUUzsHA...@g3snx.demon.co.uk>, Gordon H
><Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes
>LOL!
>
To get back on topic:
Peanuts £4.99 for 2kg, RRP = £9.99
36 Fat Balls for £2.94
<Mal...@indaal.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>In article <ReUUzsHA...@g3snx.demon.co.uk>, Gordon H
><Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes
>
To get back on topic:
Peanuts £4.99 for 2kg, RRP = £9.99
36 Fat Balls for £2.94
Christina Websell
Nov 18, 2012, 7:26:42 PM11/18/12
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similar last time I was there. they can't compete on the fat balls though.
I buy a big plastic container with 50 in for around 6.99.
I have half a mile at least to walk to either bus stop and neither takes me
to Wilko's so I use the car too.
I do use public transport to go into town but I drive to the bus stop. I
have the excuse that I broke my leg last year, it's plated and pinned as is
my shoulder.
Gordon H
Nov 19, 2012, 4:16:30 AM11/19/12
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<spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
>
>"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote
their store is about 4 miles away through the hell of the new Metrolink
roadworks. ;-)
I pay £1.60/kg at a little local back street place, and they are
culinary quality, according to the delivery sacks..
> they can't compete on the fat balls though.
>I buy a big plastic container with 50 in for around 6.99.
>
I missed out on ALDI for a similar deal this year.
>I have half a mile at least to walk to either bus stop and neither takes me
>to Wilko's so I use the car too.
>I do use public transport to go into town but I drive to the bus stop. I
>have the excuse that I broke my leg last year, it's plated and pinned as is
>my shoulder.
>
And I broke my ankle up on the moors, but it healed without metalwork...
<spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
>
>"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote
>>>
>> To get back on topic:
>> Peanuts £4.99 for 2kg, RRP = £9.99
>> 36 Fat Balls for £2.94
>
>> To get back on topic:
>> Peanuts £4.99 for 2kg, RRP = £9.99
>> 36 Fat Balls for £2.94
>
>Wilkinson's are much cheaper for peanuts.. 1.25/kg and sunflower hearts
>similar last time I was there.
At Wilkies? S/F hearts were about £1.99 last time I looked, but
>similar last time I was there.
their store is about 4 miles away through the hell of the new Metrolink
roadworks. ;-)
I pay £1.60/kg at a little local back street place, and they are
culinary quality, according to the delivery sacks..
> they can't compete on the fat balls though.
>I buy a big plastic container with 50 in for around 6.99.
>
>I have half a mile at least to walk to either bus stop and neither takes me
>to Wilko's so I use the car too.
>I do use public transport to go into town but I drive to the bus stop. I
>have the excuse that I broke my leg last year, it's plated and pinned as is
>my shoulder.
>
Christina Websell
Nov 20, 2012, 1:30:24 PM11/20/12
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I hope this isn't to be a p*ssing contest about my broken leg was worse than
yours.
I refuse to compare. I was in hospital for 12 days and not home for 8 weeks.
David B
Nov 21, 2012, 5:01:07 AM11/21/12
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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> I hope this isn't to be a p*ssing contest about my broken leg was worse
> than yours.
> I refuse to compare. I was in hospital for 12 days and not home for 8
> weeks.
It must have been bad if it took you 6 weeks and 2 days to walk home!!!
> than yours.
> I refuse to compare. I was in hospital for 12 days and not home for 8
> weeks.
D
Gordon H
Nov 21, 2012, 7:45:42 AM11/21/12
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I am still cautious on uneven ground.
<spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
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>"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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>> In message <agtcm3...@mid.individual.net>, Christina Websell
>> <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
>
>"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>news:$FGZxWCu...@g3snx.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <agtcm3...@mid.individual.net>, Christina Websell
>> <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
>>>I do use public transport to go into town but I drive to the bus stop. I
>>>have the excuse that I broke my leg last year, it's plated and pinned as
>>>is
>>>my shoulder.
>>>
>> And I broke my ankle up on the moors, but it healed without metalwork...
>
>Lucky you then.
>I hope this isn't to be a p*ssing contest about my broken leg was worse than
>yours.
>I refuse to compare. I was in hospital for 12 days and not home for 8 weeks.
>
No contest, sounds nasty, it took 12 months before swelling stopped but
>>>have the excuse that I broke my leg last year, it's plated and pinned as
>>>is
>>>my shoulder.
>>>
>> And I broke my ankle up on the moors, but it healed without metalwork...
>
>Lucky you then.
>I hope this isn't to be a p*ssing contest about my broken leg was worse than
>yours.
>I refuse to compare. I was in hospital for 12 days and not home for 8 weeks.
>
I am still cautious on uneven ground.
Christina Websell
Nov 21, 2012, 7:04:27 PM11/21/12
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Shame on you. I hope you experience this yourself very soon.
Christina Websell
Nov 21, 2012, 7:15:23 PM11/21/12
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"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
place. When I mentioned that my surgeon merely said "can you walk OK?"
<sigh>
Tina
David B
Nov 22, 2012, 3:38:30 AM11/22/12
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Shame on me?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I just make a simple joke regarding the time spent in hospital and the time
you got home and I get wished upon me a smashed up leg and 8 weeks off work.
Shame on YOU and get a grip.
I wish you a gangrenous future.
D
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I just make a simple joke regarding the time spent in hospital and the time
you got home and I get wished upon me a smashed up leg and 8 weeks off work.
Shame on YOU and get a grip.
I wish you a gangrenous future.
D
Gordon H
Nov 22, 2012, 6:11:57 AM11/22/12
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In message <ah594s...@mid.individual.net>, Christina Websell
Getting up and down stairs was tedious with a ton of plaster on my leg,
especially carrying anything, but I had two good arms, any shoulder
problems and I'd have been goosed.
Cooking a meal was ok, but getting it from kitchen was tricky and
eventually I borrowed a wheelchair. Made me appreciate what life
is like for the disabled, and when using the electric trolley in a
supermarket I became invisible to people who just walked in front of
me...
;-)
especially carrying anything, but I had two good arms, any shoulder
problems and I'd have been goosed.
Cooking a meal was ok, but getting it from kitchen was tricky and
eventually I borrowed a wheelchair. Made me appreciate what life
is like for the disabled, and when using the electric trolley in a
supermarket I became invisible to people who just walked in front of
me...
;-)
PAUL {HAMILTON ROONEY}
Nov 22, 2012, 8:32:31 AM11/22/12
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examples - sorry, Malcolm, I won't use it here again (-: )
Y'all need a nice walk in teh fresh air. Look at the beauty of the
birds and forget about your ailments.
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"Your continued posting here with an overlong sig perfectly demonstrates the
sort of person you are and is entirely relevant to every other post you make
in whatever newsgroup. You're a stupid, boorish, childish, little oik, with
no manners, an over-inflated opinion of yourself and nothing that I can see
to commend you to anyone...Now fuck off out of this newsgroup once and for
all" - Malcolm Ogilvie to Paul Rooney in demon.local
Michael J Davis
Nov 22, 2012, 9:20:06 AM11/22/12
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Jim Allan <james....@btinternet.com> was inspired to say
>
>> Within a few minutes two coal tits arrived, and managed to empty the
>> mixed seed feeder (10" high) by Sunday evening. They achieve this by
>> throwing over their shoulder any seed that isn't to their liking - I
>> assume that they are after sunflower seeds. Even the occasional blue tit
>> and great tit didn't gt much of a look in.
>>
>> Still a squirrel parked underneath and gathered up the seeds that were
>> coal-tit rejects!
>>
>> Any - serious - suggestions?
>
>Sorry Mike - I inadvertently sent the following to you instead of as a
>follow-up to the newsgroup:
>
>
>> Within a few minutes two coal tits arrived, and managed to empty the
>> mixed seed feeder (10" high) by Sunday evening. They achieve this by
>> throwing over their shoulder any seed that isn't to their liking - I
>> assume that they are after sunflower seeds. Even the occasional blue tit
>> and great tit didn't gt much of a look in.
>>
>> Still a squirrel parked underneath and gathered up the seeds that were
>> coal-tit rejects!
>>
>> Any - serious - suggestions?
>
>Sorry Mike - I inadvertently sent the following to you instead of as a
>follow-up to the newsgroup:
>
>I think Malcolm's suggestion is the way to go. For years we've enjoyed
>watching coal tits taking sunflower hearts and hiding them around the
>garden. This year, however, their activity has reached a new peak. At
>least 5 of the little blighters, as you so aptly describe them, have
>been working flat out from first light to dusk to empty the hearts
>feeder. Very occasionally one will stop long enough to eat what it has
>taken but this doesn't happen often. This is great entertainment and it
>is fascinating to see the lengths the birds go to to find what they
>consider a suitable hidey hole and the care they take in hiding the
>heart. I wonder if they ever return to retrieve the hidden food - I
>suspect not however I'm sure it will be eaten by other birds, mice,
>etc.
Trying to get this thread back to my original question.
>watching coal tits taking sunflower hearts and hiding them around the
>garden. This year, however, their activity has reached a new peak. At
>least 5 of the little blighters, as you so aptly describe them, have
>been working flat out from first light to dusk to empty the hearts
>feeder. Very occasionally one will stop long enough to eat what it has
>taken but this doesn't happen often. This is great entertainment and it
>is fascinating to see the lengths the birds go to to find what they
>consider a suitable hidey hole and the care they take in hiding the
>heart. I wonder if they ever return to retrieve the hidden food - I
>suspect not however I'm sure it will be eaten by other birds, mice,
>etc.
Assuming the coal-tits are taking only the sunflower seeds...
If I am to separate the bird food into (sunflower seeds) and
(not_sunflower seeds) where do I find suitable small bird food that
doesn't include sunflowers?
I've worked through Tescos and Wilkinsons and RSPB bird food specs. and
they all seem to include some form of sunflower seeds, unless they are
specifically 'buggy' as the RSPB puts it.
Answers please!!!!
... and a different question.
A year ago I bought some dried meal worms (didn't look like mw to me as
they are about 3cm long, and I always think of mw as the larvae of the
warehouse moth, about 1-1.5mm long) for our Robins.
The Robins never recognised them, and they were consumed immediately by
one magpie who left with a crop full everytime I put them out. How does
one train robins etc. to recognise dried mws as food?
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Christina Websell
Nov 23, 2012, 1:50:11 PM11/23/12
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"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
> In message <ah594s...@mid.individual.net>, Christina Websell
> <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
>>
>>"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
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>>> In message <ah20rj...@mid.individual.net>, Christina Websell
>>> <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
>>>>
>>>>"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in >>
>>
> <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
>>
>>"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:ollNFLK2...@g3snx.demon.co.uk...
>>> In message <ah20rj...@mid.individual.net>, Christina Websell
>>> <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
>>>>
>>>>"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in >>
>>
> Getting up and down stairs was tedious with a ton of plaster on my leg,
> especially carrying anything, but I had two good arms, any shoulder
> problems and I'd have been goosed.
It was totally impossible especially as I was not allowed to put one of my
> especially carrying anything, but I had two good arms, any shoulder
> problems and I'd have been goosed.
feet to the floor. Yes, you can shimmy yourself upstairs on your backside
but if you can't haul yourself up at the top without touching the floor with
one foot and without two good arms, you are shot.
>
> Cooking a meal was ok, but getting it from kitchen was tricky and
> eventually I borrowed a wheelchair. Made me appreciate what life is
> like for the disabled, and when using the electric trolley in a
> supermarket I became invisible to people who just walked in front of me...
Yes, most people ignored me and walked in front but some were very kind. I
> Cooking a meal was ok, but getting it from kitchen was tricky and
> eventually I borrowed a wheelchair. Made me appreciate what life is
> like for the disabled, and when using the electric trolley in a
> supermarket I became invisible to people who just walked in front of me...
remember stopping my trolley in front of the bread and a nice man
immediately asked me if he could help me reach anything I wanted.
Luckily I can walk again now, but as you say it gives you a whole new
perspective. Not so lucky with my shoulder. I can't raise one arm now. My
own fault. I thought it was a bad sprain. It wasn't. It was a fractured
disclocation and left it 2 weeks, being brave and not wanting to. Now I
have nerve damage.
They said "why didn't you call an ambulance immediately?"
I said "I thought ambulances were for life and death things."
Christina Websell
Nov 23, 2012, 4:09:05 PM11/23/12
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"Gordon H" <Gordo...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
Christina Websell
Nov 23, 2012, 6:15:11 PM11/23/12
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You can buy canary seed at Wilkos. I buy that and do 50/50 sunflower hearts
but if anyone doesn't lke the cole tits feeding from your feeders you'll
have to take it down which will mean no other birds can get food to help
them through the winter.
What's the problem with cole tits?
I am delighted to see any birds on my feeder, including cole tits. What I
would really like is a nuthatch.
I built a nestbox for them, exactly perfect, but got a great tit in it.
I've never seen a nuthatch here in Leics but if they arrive there's a
nestbox just what they want ;-)
Any box I build is always taken up. Except for the treecreeper box. I do
have treecreepers but they don't like my lovely triangular box .
I'd be glad if they did, because shortly before my mother died, she was
upset about something so I invited her here. After we had a meal I
suggested we made a treecreeper box together. She refused at first, but I
insisted she got on the jigsaw and she did. It took a while but we made
one and she was so thrilled because she didn't know she could.. We put it
up on a big willow.
I'd love it if a treecreeper nested in that.
(no sign yet)
but I can assure you that the treecreeper box is just perfect from Jan de F
book. All my boxes are designed from that and are always successful. Except
for that one.
I do have treecreepers so it's not out of the question.
but if anyone doesn't lke the cole tits feeding from your feeders you'll
have to take it down which will mean no other birds can get food to help
them through the winter.
What's the problem with cole tits?
I am delighted to see any birds on my feeder, including cole tits. What I
would really like is a nuthatch.
I built a nestbox for them, exactly perfect, but got a great tit in it.
I've never seen a nuthatch here in Leics but if they arrive there's a
nestbox just what they want ;-)
Any box I build is always taken up. Except for the treecreeper box. I do
have treecreepers but they don't like my lovely triangular box .
I'd be glad if they did, because shortly before my mother died, she was
upset about something so I invited her here. After we had a meal I
suggested we made a treecreeper box together. She refused at first, but I
insisted she got on the jigsaw and she did. It took a while but we made
one and she was so thrilled because she didn't know she could.. We put it
up on a big willow.
I'd love it if a treecreeper nested in that.
(no sign yet)
but I can assure you that the treecreeper box is just perfect from Jan de F
book. All my boxes are designed from that and are always successful. Except
for that one.
I do have treecreepers so it's not out of the question.
Darkside
Nov 24, 2012, 5:36:28 AM11/24/12
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In article <ah6nrc...@mid.individual.net>, PAUL {HAMILTON ROONEY}
<PAULV...@SNOTMAIL.COM> writes
>People can be so uptight online (see my sig for
>examples -
Dear me, how it takes one back! I used to follow it just for the
invective.
--
Sue ]:(:)
<PAULV...@SNOTMAIL.COM> writes
>People can be so uptight online (see my sig for
>examples -
invective.
--
Sue ]:(:)
Michael J Davis
Nov 26, 2012, 6:34:36 AM11/26/12
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Christina Websell <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> was inspired to
say
I'll check that out, thanks!
>I buy that and do 50/50 sunflower hearts
>but if anyone doesn't lke the cole tits feeding from your feeders you'll
>have to take it down which will mean no other birds can get food to help
>them through the winter.
>What's the problem with cole tits?
As I said above - they empty everything out of the feeder within 2 days,
the other birds can't get a look in except the wood pigeon who sits on
the ground below!
>I am delighted to see any birds on my feeder, including cole tits. What I
>would really like is a nuthatch.
>
>I built a nestbox for them, exactly perfect, but got a great tit in it.
>I've never seen a nuthatch here in Leics but if they arrive there's a
>nestbox just what they want ;-)
>Any box I build is always taken up. Except for the treecreeper box. I do
>have treecreepers but they don't like my lovely triangular box .
>I'd be glad if they did, because shortly before my mother died, she was
>upset about something so I invited her here. After we had a meal I
>suggested we made a treecreeper box together. She refused at first, but I
>insisted she got on the jigsaw and she did. It took a while but we made
>one and she was so thrilled because she didn't know she could.. We put it
>up on a big willow.
>I'd love it if a treecreeper nested in that.
>(no sign yet)
>but I can assure you that the treecreeper box is just perfect from Jan de F
>book. All my boxes are designed from that and are always successful. Except
>for that one.
>I do have treecreepers so it's not out of the question.
Sadly we haven't had a tc for some years. Too many large trees nearby
being felled!
say
>I buy that and do 50/50 sunflower hearts
>but if anyone doesn't lke the cole tits feeding from your feeders you'll
>have to take it down which will mean no other birds can get food to help
>them through the winter.
>What's the problem with cole tits?
the other birds can't get a look in except the wood pigeon who sits on
the ground below!
>I am delighted to see any birds on my feeder, including cole tits. What I
>would really like is a nuthatch.
>
>I built a nestbox for them, exactly perfect, but got a great tit in it.
>I've never seen a nuthatch here in Leics but if they arrive there's a
>nestbox just what they want ;-)
>Any box I build is always taken up. Except for the treecreeper box. I do
>have treecreepers but they don't like my lovely triangular box .
>I'd be glad if they did, because shortly before my mother died, she was
>upset about something so I invited her here. After we had a meal I
>suggested we made a treecreeper box together. She refused at first, but I
>insisted she got on the jigsaw and she did. It took a while but we made
>one and she was so thrilled because she didn't know she could.. We put it
>up on a big willow.
>I'd love it if a treecreeper nested in that.
>(no sign yet)
>but I can assure you that the treecreeper box is just perfect from Jan de F
>book. All my boxes are designed from that and are always successful. Except
>for that one.
>I do have treecreepers so it's not out of the question.
being felled!
Christina Websell
Nov 26, 2012, 1:17:44 PM11/26/12
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news:KJ$LlCBMP...@trustsof.co.uk...
use my "perfect box" I knew that it was very difficult to get them to use
an artificial box and so it has proved. They ignored it. I usually get
good take up with my home made boxes but the tc's say no.
Tina
> Christina Websell <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> was inspired to
> say
>>
>>"Michael J Davis" <mjdu...@trustsof.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:c$eu4uBWS...@trustsof.co.uk...
>>> Jim Allan <james....@btinternet.com> was >>up on a big willow.
> say
>>
>>"Michael J Davis" <mjdu...@trustsof.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:c$eu4uBWS...@trustsof.co.uk...
>>I'd love it if a treecreeper nested in that.
>>(no sign yet)
>>but I can assure you that the treecreeper box is just perfect from Jan de
>>F
>>book. All my boxes are designed from that and are always successful.
>>Except
>>for that one.
>>I do have treecreepers so it's not out of the question.
>
> Sadly we haven't had a tc for some years. Too many large trees nearby
> being felled!
I do have suitable trees and have seen tc's on them but they don't agree to
>>(no sign yet)
>>but I can assure you that the treecreeper box is just perfect from Jan de
>>F
>>book. All my boxes are designed from that and are always successful.
>>Except
>>for that one.
>>I do have treecreepers so it's not out of the question.
>
> Sadly we haven't had a tc for some years. Too many large trees nearby
> being felled!
use my "perfect box" I knew that it was very difficult to get them to use
an artificial box and so it has proved. They ignored it. I usually get
good take up with my home made boxes but the tc's say no.
Tina
Christina Websell
Nov 26, 2012, 2:57:15 PM11/26/12
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> Jim Allan <james....@btinternet.com> was inspired to say
>>
>>> Within a few minutes two coal tits arrived, and managed to empty the
>>> mixed seed feeder (10" high) by Sunday evening. They achieve this by
>>> throwing over their shoulder any seed that isn't to their liking - I
>>> assume that they are after sunflower seeds. Even the occasional blue tit
>>> and great tit didn't gt much of a look in.
>>>
>>> Still a squirrel parked underneath and gathered up the seeds that were
>>> coal-tit rejects!
>>>
>>> Any - serious - suggestions?
>>
>>Sorry Mike - I inadvertently sent the following to you instead of as a
>>follow-up to the newsgroup:
>>
>>I think Malcolm's suggestion is the way to go. For years we've enjoyed
>>watching coal tits taking sunflower hearts and hiding them around the
>>garden. This year, however, their activity has reached a new peak. At
>>least 5 of the little blighters, as you so aptly describe them, have
>>been working flat out from first light to dusk to empty the hearts
>>feeder. Very occasionally one will stop long enough to eat what it has
>>taken but this doesn't happen often. This is great entertainment and it
>>is fascinating to see the lengths the birds go to to find what they
>>consider a suitable hidey hole and the care they take in hiding the
>>heart. I wonder if they ever return to retrieve the hidden food - I
>>suspect not however I'm sure it will be eaten by other birds, mice,
>>etc.
>
No option. you have to shoot those bad cole tits. Get yourself a rifle and
>>
>>> Within a few minutes two coal tits arrived, and managed to empty the
>>> mixed seed feeder (10" high) by Sunday evening. They achieve this by
>>> throwing over their shoulder any seed that isn't to their liking - I
>>> assume that they are after sunflower seeds. Even the occasional blue tit
>>> and great tit didn't gt much of a look in.
>>>
>>> Still a squirrel parked underneath and gathered up the seeds that were
>>> coal-tit rejects!
>>>
>>> Any - serious - suggestions?
>>
>>Sorry Mike - I inadvertently sent the following to you instead of as a
>>follow-up to the newsgroup:
>>
>>I think Malcolm's suggestion is the way to go. For years we've enjoyed
>>watching coal tits taking sunflower hearts and hiding them around the
>>garden. This year, however, their activity has reached a new peak. At
>>least 5 of the little blighters, as you so aptly describe them, have
>>been working flat out from first light to dusk to empty the hearts
>>feeder. Very occasionally one will stop long enough to eat what it has
>>taken but this doesn't happen often. This is great entertainment and it
>>is fascinating to see the lengths the birds go to to find what they
>>consider a suitable hidey hole and the care they take in hiding the
>>heart. I wonder if they ever return to retrieve the hidden food - I
>>suspect not however I'm sure it will be eaten by other birds, mice,
>>etc.
>
blast them off your birdfeeder.
(Not)
If you choose to spend your money feeding birds they might not be doing
exactly what you want.
Gordon H
Nov 26, 2012, 5:28:58 PM11/26/12
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In message <ahhvsu...@mid.individual.net>, Christina Websell
<spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
>
and a robin in my garden for the last couple of days. Of course I may
have seen them more easily now the shrubs have lost their leaves, but I
haven't seen much of them on the feeders until now.
<spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> writes
>
>No option. you have to shoot those bad cole tits. Get yourself a rifle and
>blast them off your birdfeeder.
>(Not)
>If you choose to spend your money feeding birds they might not be doing
>exactly what you want.
>
I have been delighted to see the reappearance of blue tits and coal tits
>blast them off your birdfeeder.
>(Not)
>If you choose to spend your money feeding birds they might not be doing
>exactly what you want.
>
and a robin in my garden for the last couple of days. Of course I may
have seen them more easily now the shrubs have lost their leaves, but I
haven't seen much of them on the feeders until now.
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