CDR Audio Format
MusicMax
Someone told me about a program that u install on your pc that can actually
audio format a normal cdr. Any help appreciated.
Chris
Clive Backham
<mai...@musicmax.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>Is there a way of making normal computer cdr's work in audio format writers?
Not unless you have a very early Philips CDR880, which could be fooled
into accepting a data blank by mechnically pulling the drawer out (not
using the eject button) after loading in an audio blank. Philips very
quickly fixed this loophole, and IFAIK no other consumer CD recorder
could be similarly fooled.
>Someone told me about a program that u install on your pc that can actually
>audio format a normal cdr. Any help appreciated.
No, that's impossible. The "unrestricted use" flag (which is what an
audio CDR blank has) is stamped into an area that is not writable.
If you want to be able to use data CDR blanks in an audio CD recorder,
you'll have to buy a pro or semi-pro model. This has the added
advantage that pro models are built properly.
Jim Lesurf
You may be right. However my understanding is that the modulation that
distinguishes 'data' and 'audio' CDRs is stamped into the physical guide
pattern on the disc. If so, I am not sure how you would change this by
writing onto the disc's information layer.
Slainte,
Jim
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Jim Lesurf
<cl...@capita.nildram.co.uk> wrote:
> If you want to be able to use data CDR blanks in an audio CD recorder,
> you'll have to buy a pro or semi-pro model. This has the added advantage
> that pro models are built properly.
I am now curious. Can you explain what you mean by 'properly' in the above?
Do you just mean to a higher level of durability? I am wondering what might
be 'improper' in the build of a domestic CDR by someone like Pioneer,
Marantz, etc...
Clive Backham
<jc...@st-and.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <3bd93271....@supernews.nildram.co.uk>, Clive Backham
><cl...@capita.nildram.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> If you want to be able to use data CDR blanks in an audio CD recorder,
>> you'll have to buy a pro or semi-pro model. This has the added advantage
>> that pro models are built properly.
>
>I am now curious. Can you explain what you mean by 'properly' in the above?
>Do you just mean to a higher level of durability? I am wondering what might
>be 'improper' in the build of a domestic CDR by someone like Pioneer,
>Marantz, etc...
Sorry, I suppose you could regard my comment as being a bit "cute".
The most important thing about equipment used by professionals is that
it must work reliably and consistently. For this basic reason, semipro
machines like the Marantz CDR630 are simply better screwed together,
and in operation give you a feeling of confidence that they won't ever
fail you. The consumer CD recorders that I've handled (Philips) don't
give me the same feeling of solidity. Maybe it's entirely
psychological, but I get the impression that the consumer models are
likely to be considerably less reliable after a few years use.
Dave Plowman
Clive Backham <cl...@capita.nildram.co.uk> wrote:
> Sorry, I suppose you could regard my comment as being a bit "cute".
> The most important thing about equipment used by professionals is that
> it must work reliably and consistently.
I'm not sure about this at all. I can remember Fosdex DAT machines that
were meant to chase lock but didn't, Nagra T-Audios that were meant to be
colour locked but weren't, and countless radio mics that claim to be as
good as a cabled type.
Most domestic gear *does* do what it says on the box.
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Clive Backham
<dave....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <3bdd4f54...@supernews.nildram.co.uk>,
> Clive Backham <cl...@capita.nildram.co.uk> wrote:
>> Sorry, I suppose you could regard my comment as being a bit "cute".
>> The most important thing about equipment used by professionals is that
>> it must work reliably and consistently.
>
> I'm not sure about this at all. I can remember Fosdex DAT machines that
>were meant to chase lock but didn't, Nagra T-Audios that were meant to be
>colour locked but weren't,
I've never had the chance to handle Nagra equipment, but I always
thought it was supposed to be the dog's bollocks. Now you're telling
me it sometimes doesn't work? You've shattered my illusions :-)
BTW, what's "colour locked"? It's not a term I've come across before.
> Most domestic gear *does* do what it says on the box.
Except for computer software, of course. Especially if it comes from
Seattle.
But to return to the original point I was making: you're not seriously
suggesting that you consider a Philips CDR880 (or whatever the current
model number is) to be as well put together as a Marantz CDR630?
Dave Plowman
Clive Backham <cl...@capita.nildram.co.uk> wrote:
> I've never had the chance to handle Nagra equipment, but I always
> thought it was supposed to be the dog's bollocks. Now you're telling
> me it sometimes doesn't work? You've shattered my illusions :-)
> BTW, what's "colour locked"? It's not a term I've come across before.
Very basically in years gone by if you were playing a sound tape to a
composite VTR machine for, say, a dance sequence which was to be built up
in layers or discontinuously, you would transfer it to another VTR and use
that for the sound source to allow a picture edit to take place exactly
where you wanted it. It's to do with the PAL eight field sequence.
This tied up an expensive VTR machine for essentially a sound only task,
so the requirement was for a 1/4in stereo machine that would lock
accurately to station picture syncs, and be stable enough to be a master
for VTR machines to slave to.
The early Nagra T-Audios were supposed to offer this feature - at vast
cost - but it didn't work. The company I worked for sent back all 8 of
them we had bought for this specific purpose. And it's not that it was
impossible - we had 'in house' modified Levers-Rich Prolines which would,
but wouldn't chase lock. So the idea of a machine that would do everything
possibly needed was appealing. The Studer A810 finally did.
> > Most domestic gear *does* do what it says on the box.
> Except for computer software, of course. Especially if it comes from
> Seattle.
Heh heh. But that's not limited to domestic gear.
> But to return to the original point I was making: you're not seriously
> suggesting that you consider a Philips CDR880 (or whatever the current
> model number is) to be as well put together as a Marantz CDR630?
Perhaps not. But I've used domestic Sony MDs for broadcast - having half
a dozen for the cost of one pro machine has a certain appeal...
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