Marantz 63SE CD player misbehaving
Paul Cannard
- almost in the first 5-10 minutes of the CD - just a momentary blip or
two then back to the music. Can anyone suggest a sensible course of
action to find out the cause - I normally treat the CDs pretty well,
though I don't wipe or clean them on a regular basis - just make sure I
handle by the hole in the middle or by the edges. Is the 63 easy to
take apart and have a look at the lens(es) to check for fluff/dirt ? I
don't think its a dry joint as it warms up, as the machine can be left
on all day and still misbehave. Ideas appreciated.
Are there reputable Marantz servicing people in Suffolk ? I'm prepared
to travel down to Essex or up to Norfolk to find a good agent as I'm
loathed to give my player up just yet.
Many thanks, Paul
Dave Plowman
Paul Cannard <paul.c...@bt.com> wrote:
> Are there reputable Marantz servicing people in Suffolk ? I'm prepared
> to travel down to Essex or up to Norfolk to find a good agent as I'm
> loathed to give my player up just yet.
The transport is plain early Philips, similar to the 104 etc.
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Dave Plowman dave....@argonet.co.uk London SW 12
RIP Acorn
Chris Morriss
<dave....@argonet.co.uk> writes
>In article <3854D267...@bt.com>,
> Paul Cannard <paul.c...@bt.com> wrote:
>> Are there reputable Marantz servicing people in Suffolk ? I'm prepared
>> to travel down to Essex or up to Norfolk to find a good agent as I'm
>> loathed to give my player up just yet.
>
> The transport is plain early Philips, similar to the 104 etc.
>
If only!!
I had one of the first CD104s in the country (that dates me!), and the
transport in that was a superb die-casting in metal. The electronics
were the most unreliable pile of poo though. The CD63 may sound
excellent, but the plastic transport just can't compare. I have a CD63
and a CD52SE I've looked inside, and the transport in neither of these
is anything like the old CD104.
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Chris Morriss
Dave Plowman
Chris Morriss <cr...@oroboros.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I have a CD63 and a CD52SE I've looked inside, and the transport in
> neither of these is anything like the old CD104.
I repaired an old Marantz top loader for a pal a few weeks ago (the usual
short circuit capacitor on one of the output op amps) and I *thought* it
said CD 63 on it. What was it then?
Chris Morriss
<dave....@argonet.co.uk> writes
>In article <oTeEnJA8...@oroboros.demon.co.uk>,
> Chris Morriss <cr...@oroboros.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> I have a CD63 and a CD52SE I've looked inside, and the transport in
>> neither of these is anything like the old CD104.
>
> I repaired an old Marantz top loader for a pal a few weeks ago (the usual
>short circuit capacitor on one of the output op amps) and I *thought* it
>said CD 63 on it. What was it then?
>
CD104) I'm sure someone here knows the numbers of the Marantz top-
loaders.
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Chris Morriss
Michael Jones
> I repaired an old Marantz top loader for a pal a few weeks ago (the usual
> short circuit capacitor on one of the output op amps) and I *thought* it
> said CD 63 on it. What was it then?
Marantz's confusing model-numbering policy strikes again. Yes, one of
the early top-loaders was a CD63 (a friend has one), but the original
poster was referring to a CD63SE - a mid-90s model and aesthetic close
relation to the CD67, 63KI, 17, etc. These all have the plastic
front-loading Philips CDM12 transport mechanism AFAIK.
There was a dodgy batch of the CDM12s doing the rounds a couple of years
ago (something to do with the lubrication on the laser-sled mech);
Micromega almost went out of business because of it. This CD63SE may
well have fallen foul of this problem (my old KI-sig does much the same
thing).
I'll let someone who knows their way around a compact disc transport
better than I suggest remedies...
Mike.
Dave Plowman
Michael Jones <mikew...@mcmail.com> wrote:
> Marantz's confusing model-numbering policy strikes again. Yes, one of
> the early top-loaders was a CD63 (a friend has one), but the original
> poster was referring to a CD63SE - a mid-90s model
Ahh. Thanks for that. I just assumed the SE stood for a *slightly*
different model, and also that Paul, the original poster said he was
unwilling to give up the player just yet, so I thought it was older than a
few years. I've still got 3 working 104s, so perhaps I have a different
life expectation of Hi-Fi than most.;-)
Rodney Gold
>My Marantz CD63SE has started to "skip" on a wide range of different CDs
>- almost in the first 5-10 minutes of the CD - just a momentary blip or
>two then back to the music. Can anyone suggest a sensible course of
>action to find out the cause - I normally treat the CDs pretty well,
>though I don't wipe or clean them on a regular basis - just make sure I
>handle by the hole in the middle or by the edges. Is the 63 easy to
>take apart and have a look at the lens(es) to check for fluff/dirt ? I
>don't think its a dry joint as it warms up, as the machine can be left
>on all day and still misbehave. Ideas appreciated.
Sounds like the laser sled needs a lube , its not to difficult to do
at home
Use a light machine oil or petroleum jelly (I have never used
vaseline , but some folk say this is better - I have used a silicon
spray called Q20 or WD20 with lots of success) on the laser sled rails
and make sure that you clean off gunge that might have collected on
ends of them. I use a syringe + needle to get to hard to reach
places.
At the same time clean the lens with an earbud and some lens cleaning
fluid or alcohol (dont use anything that has additives and will leave
a deposit) - be gentle in all that you do.
If that doesnt work , its off to the repair shop (which might just
cost an arm or a leg)
The 1st bit of a CD is near the centre , so look for problems at the
position the laser would be when reading there.
Hope this helps
regards
Rodney Gold
"The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is-
..............................the feeling you get when you stop."
Paul Cannard
Philips CD104 when I got the Marantz - but I haven't the heart to take it back
- they enjoy it too much ! My 104 had 3 laser replacements in the early
years 1985-1990 (all under the 5 year extended warranty and it hasn't missed a
beat since then). Lovely diecast drawer mechanism and s u p e r s l o
w access times !
Very interested in the laser sledge lube problem alluded to - perhaps a new
mech will solve everything ?
Paul
Nigel Feltham
you are brave enough to attempt your own repair then why not have a go at
regreasing the old mechanism. It is held into the machine with 3 screws, one
on each side and one at the back, just covered by the drawer when it is
closed. It is connected to the main board by 3 cables (2 with individual
wires and 1 ribbon cable). You will need to unclip the drawer front to
remove the mechanism.
When the mechanism is removed the sled rails should be just visible on the
underside of the mechanism. Carefully remove as much of the old grease as
possible with a cotton bud (don't try to manually move the sled) and add
suitable new grease along the sled rails. I have had some success with a
small sachet of 'CV' grease (dark grey coloured) available in car spares
shops. When the mechanism is re-fitted play a disc and search between first
and last tracks a few times to spread the grease.
This may solve all of your problems and also for anyone else with Jumpy cd
players using the CDM12 mechanism.
P.S. I currently use a Marantz CD67 and have had no problems with mine but
am currently restoring a broken CD63 (spins disc too fast for a few seconds
then goes into stop mode with 'No Disc' pernanently displayed) if anyone can
offer any help. I have not tried the above relubrication on a marantz but
have used it successfully on other mechanisms including a sony playstation
CD mechanism.
Paul Cannard wrote in message <38565FB5...@bt.com>...
gd...@dial.pipex.com
wrote:
>My Marantz CD63SE has started to "skip" on a wide range of different CDs
>- almost in the first 5-10 minutes of the CD - just a momentary blip or
<snip>
I had the exact same thing, the transport mechanism in that player is
faulty, Marantz replaced the transport under warranty (actually, dunno
if it was warranty or not, they just replaced it, as it is a quite
common fault (I am told))...
Tony Skitt
original Philips CDM 12.4 laser mechanism (including sled etc) was all
replaced under warranty with an earlier CDM 12.1 (better grease), and it
worked fine for another 12 months (ie just after the warranty ran out). I
effected a complete cure by flattening the Marantz with my VW Golf and
buying a Sony ..
Regards
Tony Skitt
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