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Decca "A Journey Into Stereo Sound" on CD?

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Sanders

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Feb 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/23/99
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When I was a boy, my father and a friend built a stereo preamp and two
amps ... and the first record they played on their new rig was "A
Journey Into Stereo Sound"

I'd love to hear it again ... did a Web search but the only mention of
a CD was on two Chinese sites where they had a picture of the actual
CD and a catalogue number (444 621-2) but no other info.

Tried the usual CD sites, London's non-working site, Decca's useless
site, and no mention anywhere.

Anyone know if this is available and where I might be able to get a
copy?

Thanks,

Kurt Sanders

The Judge

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Feb 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/24/99
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Sanders wrote in message <36d1f509.92462090@proxy>...

>When I was a boy, my father and a friend built a stereo preamp and two
>amps ... and the first record they played on their new rig was "A
>Journey Into Stereo Sound"
>
>I'd love to hear it again ... did a Web search but the only mention of
>a CD was on two Chinese sites where they had a picture of the actual
>CD and a catalogue number (444 621-2) but no other info.
>
Did the record have a picture of a supersonic plane with shockwaves in a
wind tunnel on it? I remember my Dad had one - probably still has.

John and Lucy Hayward-Warburton

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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The Judge <_nospam_...@jsdyer.globalnet.co.uk> wrote:

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Sanders

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Feb 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/25/99
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"The Judge" <_nospam_...@jsdyer.globalnet.co.uk> wrote:

>
>>
>Did the record have a picture of a supersonic plane with shockwaves in a
>wind tunnel on it? I remember my Dad had one - probably still has.
>

No ...the record is so old they didn't have supersonic flight then.
(Just kidding, but it is vintage 1955 or so). It had a British
steam train, dancers, etc. And said 'FFSS" instead of "FFRR"

That probably doesn't help much.


Kevin Lazenby

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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Yes, I remember that - I recall hearing it at a neighbours' house who was
showing off new technology called Full Frequency Stereophonic Sound. I was
about 7 years old at the time which puts it at 1959. (It must have been
released before then of course).
Cheers, Kevin

Iain Churches

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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The recording engineer was Arthur Bannister. I was his assistant during
my early years at Decca (but long after A Journey into Stereo Sound was
made. I have looked in the Decca 1976 catalogue and the record is not
listed there. Could it have been deleted much earlier?

Iain

Stewart Pinkerton

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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"Kevin Lazenby" <laz...@bp.com> writes:

The 'new technology' was stereo! :-) They're both just DECCA slogans,
FFRR was Full Frequency Range Recording.

>Yes, I remember that - I recall hearing it at a neighbours' house who was
>showing off new technology called Full Frequency Stereophonic Sound. I was
>about 7 years old at the time which puts it at 1959. (It must have been
>released before then of course).
>Cheers, Kevin
>
>> No ...the record is so old they didn't have supersonic flight then.
>> (Just kidding, but it is vintage 1955 or so). It had a British
>> steam train, dancers, etc. And said 'FFSS" instead of "FFRR"
>

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tim heslop

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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I've actually got a copy of this record somewhere, and very good it is
too. It is with some vinyl at my paremts in Lancs, but I'll pick it up
next time I'm there and anyone interested can email me if they don't
mind a bit of a wait for any actual audio off it.

Don't hold you breath tho, as I'm not scheduled to go up there again
until June!

John Woodgate

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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<36dee612...@news.dircon.co.uk>, Stewart Pinkerton

<pat...@popmail.dircon.co.uk> inimitably wrote:
>"Kevin Lazenby" <laz...@bp.com> writes:
>
>The 'new technology' was stereo! :-) They're both just DECCA slogans,
>FFRR was Full Frequency Range Recording.

Not at all. FFSS is white noise, whereas FFRR is mains hum. (;-)
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John Woodgate

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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<36DED7...@provideo.fi>, Iain Churches <iain.c...@provideo.fi>

inimitably wrote:
>The recording engineer was Arthur Bannister. I was his assistant during
>my early years at Decca (but long after A Journey into Stereo Sound was
>made. I have looked in the Decca 1976 catalogue and the record is not
>listed there. Could it have been deleted much earlier?

Yes. There was a reaction against 'stereo demo' records, and virtually
none of them survived for more than three years, i.e. to around 1961
AFAIK. The argument was that stereo was for *music*, not for trains and
jet planes, still less for fellows walking about in the studio. And if
you owned s demo, it showed that you were new to stereo, instead of
having had it since 1934 (Blumlein) or 1944 (?), or 1954 (EMI
Stereosonic double half-track staggered-head tapes!)!

martin kelly

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Mar 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/5/99
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On Thu, 04 Mar 1999 21:55:36 +0300, Iain Churches
<iain.c...@provideo.fi> wrote:

>Kevin Lazenby wrote:
...the record is so old they didn't have supersonic flight then.
>> > (Just kidding, but it is vintage 1955 or so). It had a British
>> > steam train, dancers, etc. And said 'FFSS" instead of "FFRR"
>
>

>The recording engineer was Arthur Bannister. I was his assistant during
>my early years at Decca (but long after A Journey into Stereo Sound was
>made. I have looked in the Decca 1976 catalogue and the record is not
>listed there. Could it have been deleted much earlier?
>

>Iain

I've just dug out my old copy and stuck it on the Rega!

It's got 1958 on the label, and still sounds quite fantastic. It shows
I suppose that the progress in the last 40 years perhaps hasn't been
quite as great as we sometimes think.

Martin

Iain Churches

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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John Woodgate wrote:

> >
> >The 'new technology' was stereo! :-) They're both just DECCA slogans,
> >FFRR was Full Frequency Range Recording.
>
> Not at all. FFSS is white noise, whereas FFRR is mains hum. (;-)

> --
> Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.


Hello John et al,

Actually FFRR refers to a patented extended range cutter-head built by
Decca, and designed by their Technical Director, Arthur Haddy (my former
boss) At the time, it was considered a major step forward in recording
fidelity.

Iain

John Woodgate

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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Of course, indeed it was. But that's a bit dull, isn't it. Not to
detract from AH's talents in any way. Do you have any (reasonably
polite) anecdotes about him?

--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.

Iain Churches

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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John Woodgate wrote:
> Not to
> detract from AH's talents in any way. Do you have any (reasonably
> polite) anecdotes about him?
> --

There are many. One that comes to mind concerns a certain musical
director (conductor) who worked often at Decca. He was absent for a long
period and returned to the scene having had a sex change.

Arthur Haddy decided that he should hold a briefing to prepare the male
staff for this delicate situation. It was a delicate subject for him.
He made several false starts, " I have to tell you that...., well, it's
about..., hmm" etc.

And then he said,"Let me put it like this, If you go for a pee, and bump
into XXXX while washing your hands, then you are almost certainly in the
wrong toilet."

Message understood.

In contrast, the musicians with whom this conductor worked daily decided
to send a floral tribute to the hospital. The also sent a huge card
with the message" We want you to know that we are thinking of you, and
looking forward to your return, and to working with you again" This was
followed by a hundred or so signatures, to which one wag added:

PS Any chance of a screw?

Iain

Dick Smith

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Mar 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/9/99
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In article <36E429...@provideo.fi>,
iain.c...@provideo.fi (Iain Churches) wrote:

] John Woodgate wrote:
] > Not to
] > detract from AH's talents in any way. Do you have any (reasonably
] > polite) anecdotes about him?
] > --
]
] There are many. One that comes to mind concerns a certain musical
] director (conductor) who worked often at Decca. He was absent for a long
] period and returned to the scene having had a sex change.

Ah, I know who this is. Wally ***** who became Angela ******, who provided,
amongst many other things, the music for the Goon Show.

[snip]

] In contrast, the musicians with whom this conductor worked daily decided


] to send a floral tribute to the hospital. The also sent a huge card
] with the message" We want you to know that we are thinking of you, and
] looking forward to your return, and to working with you again" This was
] followed by a hundred or so signatures, to which one wag added:
]
] PS Any chance of a screw?

Well, the version of this story that I heard came straight from one of those
musicians who was there in the band at the time (with whom I have had the
pleasure of working recently), and apparently at some point in the first
rehearsal after his return as `Angela' a voice called over from the trumpets
at the back (it /had/ to be from the trumpets, didn't it?), `I don't suppose
there's any chance of a fuck, Wally?'

Apologies for the language, but it's a great musician's story.

Dick

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Iain Churches

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Mar 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/9/99
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Dick Smith wrote:
>

> Ah, I know who this is. Wally ***** who became Angela ******, who provided,
> amongst many other things, the music for the Goon Show.
>

You're absolutely right. I didn't really want to name any names :-)
Angela disappeared from the scene very shortly after that.

>
> Apologies for the language, but it's a great musician's story.
>

No way to know which version is true, but as you say it is a great story

Have you every noticed by the way, when cleasring up after a session
which magazines various sections of the orchestra leave behind. String
players seem to read House and Garden, Woodwind and horn players read
National Geographic magazine, but the trumpets invariable goggle at Men
Only. Hmm. What would Freud have made of that?


Iain

John Woodgate

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Mar 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/9/99
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<36E57D...@provideo.fi>, Iain Churches <iain.c...@provideo.fi>

inimitably wrote:
> String
>players seem to read House and Garden, Woodwind and horn players read
>National Geographic magazine, but the trumpets invariable goggle at Men
>Only. Hmm. What would Freud have made of that?

He would be busy searching for what the trombones and tubas were
reading. (;-)


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Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.

Dick Smith

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Mar 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/10/99
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In article <36E57D...@provideo.fi>,
iain.c...@provideo.fi (Iain Churches) wrote:

[snip]

] Have you every noticed by the way, when cleasring up after a session
] which magazines various sections of the orchestra leave behind. String


] players seem to read House and Garden, Woodwind and horn players read
] National Geographic magazine, but the trumpets invariable goggle at Men
] Only. Hmm. What would Freud have made of that?

I've not noticed a trumpet player that can read yet!:-) Sitting in countless
pit orchestras, symphony orchestras and jazz bands has reinforced the view
time and again that there must be something happening in the music colleges
for trumpet players that perpetuates loutish behaviour. They'll always turn
up late, play too loud and/or push the beat, turn and snigger at one another
and be a general pain, whereas other sections of the orchestra are as varied
as life itself.

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