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Matt Clements

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Feb 27, 2003, 8:18:29 AM2/27/03
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as the subject, for auction here
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3010562044

thanks for looking,
Matt


Triffid

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Feb 27, 2003, 8:37:18 AM2/27/03
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Matt Clements wrote:
> as the subject, for auction here
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3010562044
>

It's a bizarre world where you can auction a bloody phono lead.


Triffid

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Feb 27, 2003, 12:54:20 PM2/27/03
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Paul D. wrote:
> Why?

Bit of wire - plugs either end. B+Q does them. Anything more is posturing,
and the sort of thing you would try to keep from your SO.


Triffid

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Feb 27, 2003, 1:09:30 PM2/27/03
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> B&Q??
>
> Get on your bike!

Oh all right - Asda then. FYI, bikes can waste WAY more money than hi-fi,
even with silly cables!


Triffid

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Feb 27, 2003, 7:14:31 PM2/27/03
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Paul D. wrote:
> "Triffid" <pun...@btspamworld.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> It's a bizarre world where you can auction a bloody phono lead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>>
>>>> Bit of wire - plugs either end. B+Q does them. Anything more is
posturing,
>>>> and the sort of thing you would try to keep from your SO.
>>>
>>> B&Q??
>>>
>>> Get on your bike!
>>
>> Oh all right - Asda then.
>
> That's better!

>
>> FYI, bikes can waste WAY more money than hi-fi,
>> even with silly cables!
>
> Tell me about it. I bought a Marin, thought I was really splashing
> out.. but the next guy in the queue was buying shocks that cost more
> than the whole bike ;-)

WTF's a Marin?


Nath

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Feb 27, 2003, 7:22:20 PM2/27/03
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"Triffid" <pun...@btspamworld.com> wrote in message
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haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! Go back to your Raleighs and
Halfords specials!!!!!!


Triffid

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Feb 27, 2003, 7:30:57 PM2/27/03
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Are you trying to say it's got *pedals*!!! Loser!


Adam Porter

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Mar 3, 2003, 5:51:00 PM3/3/03
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> >>>> FYI, bikes can waste WAY more money than hi-fi,
> >>>> even with silly cables!
> >>>
> >>> Tell me about it. I bought a Marin, thought I was really splashing
> >>> out.. but the next guy in the queue was buying shocks that cost more
> >>> than the whole bike ;-)
> >>
> >> WTF's a Marin?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! Go back to your Raleighs and
> > Halfords specials!!!!!!

> >>> "Triffid" <pun...@btspamworld.com> wrote:

> Are you trying to say it's got *pedals*!!! Loser!
>
>

Well, what a guy Triffid is. Why should anybody who likes looking after them
selves, keeping fit and enjoys cycling be a loser ? I have spent a huge
amount of money and time on mountain bikes, and would do it again no
problem.

As for the original comment about cables etc. I'm sure some people who
peruse this group are getting fed up with being told by the so called guru's
on here that there is no difference in cables, and that the people who spend
good money on expensive 'tweaks' and finishing touches to there systems are
all stupid.

Basically, even though technically there may well be no difference as such
between a cable of 20 pence a metre and one at £200 a foot, at the end of
the day, if somebody chooses to spend a fortune on a cable, plug, mains
filter or even a green pen, then so be it. If something 'special' makes the
owner smile and appreciate their hifi, bike, whatever, some more, then it is
money well spent and should not be condoned by some dip stick who cannot see
the smile on the owners face....

There, rant over.... lol


Adam


Triffid

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Mar 3, 2003, 7:18:21 PM3/3/03
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Adam Porter wrote:
<loads>

Methinks he doth protest too much!


Adam Porter

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Mar 4, 2003, 3:14:30 AM3/4/03
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"Triffid" <pun...@btspamworld.com> wrote in message
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> Adam Porter wrote:
> <loads>
>
> Methinks he doth protest too much!
>

Methinks you don't have an argument ;o)


Dave Plowman

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Mar 3, 2003, 7:44:21 PM3/3/03
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In article <v67n18b...@corp.supernews.com>,

Adam Porter <two...@nospam11freeuk.com> wrote:
> Basically, even though technically there may well be no difference as
> such between a cable of 20 pence a metre and one at £200 a foot, at the
> end of the day, if somebody chooses to spend a fortune on a cable, plug,
> mains filter or even a green pen, then so be it. If something 'special'
> makes the owner smile and appreciate their hifi, bike, whatever, some
> more, then it is money well spent and should not be condoned by some dip
> stick who cannot see the smile on the owners face....

There's nothing wrong with saying you like the look of the 200 quid a foot
cable and that it makes you hard thinking about how you spent that money.
But when fantasy takes over from reality and you convince yourself it
sounds better - well, prepare to be shot down in flames.

> There, rant over.... loll

Glad it's amused you.

--
*What do little birdies see when they get knocked unconscious? *

Dave Plowman dave....@argonet.co.uk London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Adam Porter

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Mar 4, 2003, 1:16:22 PM3/4/03
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"Dave Plowman" <dave....@argonet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> There's nothing wrong with saying you like the look of the 200 quid a foot
> cable and that it makes you hard thinking about how you spent that money.
> But when fantasy takes over from reality and you convince yourself it
> sounds better - well, prepare to be shot down in flames.
>
> > There, rant over.... loll
>
> Glad it's amused you.
>
> --
Ahh, but who can say that it doesn't sound 'better' to the purchaser. This
is my point, in that whilst you and others here can and do 'shoot people
down in flames' for saying they can here a difference in cables, surely it
is down to the person concerned if it sounds better or not.

Whilst I question the belief that any 'expensive' cable is a good buy, I did
personally hear the difference for the better in my system by introducing a
different interconnect to the Tandy gold patch that I was using previously.
I don't really care that people here claim to be able to prove that cables
don't make a difference, because when I changed mine, it did make a
difference. How and why this happened I am not concerned about, as the main
thing was the improvement in sound. And yes I did swap cables back after a
few months, to prove that it wasn't just a difference in the sound that
attracted me towards the newer interconnect - which it wasn't as with the
old Tandy interconnect the music sounded 'closed' in comparison.

Adam,


Dave Plowman

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Mar 4, 2003, 3:56:24 PM3/4/03
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In article <v69rac2...@corp.supernews.com>,

Adam Porter <two...@nospam11freeuk.com> wrote:
> Ahh, but who can say that it doesn't sound 'better' to the purchaser.
> This is my point, in that whilst you and others here can and do 'shoot
> people down in flames' for saying they can here a difference in cables,
> surely it is down to the person concerned if it sounds better or not.

It is, but when they post to groups suggesting that others will and it's
money well spent is where the problem arises.

> Whilst I question the belief that any 'expensive' cable is a good buy, I
> did personally hear the difference for the better in my system by
> introducing a different interconnect to the Tandy gold patch that I was
> using previously. I don't really care that people here claim to be able
> to prove that cables don't make a difference, because when I changed
> mine, it did make a difference. How and why this happened I am not
> concerned about, as the main thing was the improvement in sound. And yes
> I did swap cables back after a few months, to prove that it wasn't just
> a difference in the sound that attracted me towards the newer
> interconnect - which it wasn't as with the old Tandy interconnect the
> music sounded 'closed' in comparison.

Don't know the Tandy cables, but when anyone is tested properly to show
they can actually hear the difference between 'proper' cables, they fail
miserably. The exception, of course, is with pickup cables - due to the
high output impedance of most of these, different cables *can* have an
influence. But not between the average pre-amp and main amp, or tuner, CD
etc to pre-amp.

--
*I'm planning to be spontaneous tomorrow *

Dave Plowman

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Mar 5, 2003, 1:21:54 PM3/5/03
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In article <itrb6v0hkfn09eobb...@4ax.com>,

Paul D. <sig...@lineone.net> wrote:
> >There's nothing wrong with saying you like the look of the 200 quid a
> >foot cable and that it makes you hard thinking about how you spent that
> >money. But when fantasy takes over from reality and you convince
> >yourself it sounds better - well, prepare to be shot down in flames.

> Hey, so long as you don't convince yourself it all sounds the same..

The only times I've heard a 'cable' difference was when extending a pickup
wiring, and making interconnects to a Quad II valve pre-amp tape circuit.
I've always used 'adequate' speaker cables, so wouldn't have expected to
notice any difference anyway with these. I've had the differerence
demonstrated to me with inductive cables with a Naim amp, but all these
are easily explained by the normal laws of electronics.

--
*Middle age is when it takes longer to rest than to get tired.

Matt Clements

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Mar 7, 2003, 11:49:31 AM3/7/03
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less than 2 days to go.....

was £99 new

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