Peter
and Beos, netbsd, freebsd, openbsd, Mac os9, Mac osX, solaris...?
--
Mark Kent
Take out the ham to mail me.
Shame it doesn't do reverse number search any more.
The powers that be made it illegal.
Ah well. C'est la vie!
Dave Eccles, M0ODS.
HPUX ??
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Dan
Why bother? I have it as well, and it's total shite.
Stan
>I have the full version of UK Info Disk Pro 6.5
>The complete electrol list.Find any name or Street in UK
>Whats your new neighbour's name ?
Alternatively you could go next door when the new folks move in and
say "Hi, I'm Jon from next door, I'll leave you in peace now, but if
you need anything over the next few days please give me a shout"
They'll be so stunned that people still do this in this day and age
they'll probably give them you their life story.
And let's face it people only got for the reverse number search which
it doesn't do now, and quite rightly!
Cheers,
Jon.
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:41:22 -0000, "Jon" <nosp...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >And Amiga?
>
> Oh dear. That is only one step removed from a BBC micro!
At least these machines encouraged their owners to learn to program them!
I have known many professional programmers who cut their teeth on Z80
assembler.
DOS used to include QBasic, which was also on the Windows 95 and 98 CD's.
It doesn't seem to be on my Windows 2000 and Windows XP CD's however. Does
Gorilla.exe run on XP??
Roger.
>DOS used to include QBasic, which was also on the Windows 95 and 98 CD's.
>It doesn't seem to be on my Windows 2000 and Windows XP CD's however. Does
>Gorilla.exe run on XP??
Is Qbasic really on the 98SE CD? I wonder if it's the full package and
allows you to compile *.bas files...
Good ol' Gorilla, it's all coming back now!
Cheers,
Jon.
>On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 12:33:53 GMT, h...@cix.co.uk (Roger Muggleton)
>wrote:
>
>>DOS used to include QBasic, which was also on the Windows 95 and 98 CD's.
>>It doesn't seem to be on my Windows 2000 and Windows XP CD's however. Does
>>Gorilla.exe run on XP??
>
>Is Qbasic really on the 98SE CD? I wonder if it's the full package and
>allows you to compile *.bas files...
Afraid not. You need QuickBasic to do that. (Or PowerBasic or
LibertyBasic if you want to program for Windows.
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GM4.
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>Is Qbasic really on the 98SE CD? I wonder if it's the full package and
>allows you to compile *.bas files...
Yes. It's on the CD, but it doesn't include a compiler.
Then again it didn't include a compiler on the W95 CD either.
Anybody wanting to run it under W-ME, will find that though it's not
included on that CD, you can use the W9.x version.
> Yes. It's on the CD, but it doesn't include a compiler.
> Then again it didn't include a compiler on the W95 CD either.
>
> Anybody wanting to run it under W-ME, will find that though it's not
> included on that CD, you can use the W9.x version.
It's on 98SE in \tools\oldmsdos\
It runs OK on Windows XP.
Quickbasic, qb.exe the compiler, was sold as a package by Microsoft years
ago - I think I have it on floppies somewhere. It used the same interface
as qbasic.exe.
There still are some oldies still going on XP, even edlin is still
installed!
Last time I looked, the DOS versions of Turbo C and Turbo Pascal were a
free download on the Borland Museum website. The original Pascal version
was there, with the kind of user interface that has thankfully long gone!
And a Y2K-fixed version of Word for DOS was a free download somewhere on
the Microsoft web site.
Roger.
Prestel was just a load of RVMJ, not worth bothering
with. (And a preposition is not something to end
a sentence with; and don't never use double negatives)
Walt Davidson <wal...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:lf0qut8mcqgblb2g1...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 12:33:53 GMT, h...@cix.co.uk (Roger Muggleton)
> wrote:
>
> >At least these machines encouraged their owners to learn to program them!
> >I have known many professional programmers who cut their teeth on Z80
> >assembler.
>
> I cut mine on Texas Instruments TMS9900 assembler in the early 1980s.
> The TMS9900 family was one of the first "16-bit microprocessor" range
> of chips, brilliant in its concept because the programmer could create
> as many sets of registers as he/she liked within the RAM. The
> accompanying series of audio chips, including speech synthesis and
> text-to-speech conversion were 15 - 20 years ahead of their time. I
> remember writing a Prestel emulator for this processor (in assembler)
> using screen bit-mapping for each character in the Prestel
> character-set! (Paradoxically, the BBC micro was the only computer
> which supported the Prestel character-set as standard!)
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
> --
> Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @freeuk.com
--
It's that time of year again,
when rampant hypocrisy raises
its ugly head under the
meaningless title of "Remembrance
Sunday".
Let's consider what happened, a
group of men who knew that it was
wrong to set out to kill their
fellow humans did just that and
got it themselves. Serves them
jolly well right, the evil
hypocrites. Now we see the same
hypocrisy in Afghanistan. If it
was so wrong to drop buildings
around people and burn them to
death on Sept 11th, why is it
now OK to do the same in Afghanistan?
Walt Davidson <wal...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 23:12:52 GMT, h...@cix.co.uk (Roger Muggleton)
> wrote:
>
> >There still are some oldies still going on XP, even edlin is still
> >installed!
>
> I know a person who actually *likes* EDLIN and uses it to this day!!!
>I cut mine on Texas Instruments TMS9900 assembler in the early 1980s.
>The TMS9900 family was one of the first "16-bit microprocessor" range
I remember that machine. When it first hit the streets it was £399
(ISTR), when I last saw them on retail sale - just over a year later,
they were £49.99 in Boots and Dixons... I saw one at a car-boot
sale a few weeks back - in good nick and with s/w - for £2.
Their main problem was the lack of cheap software titles and the poor
speed of the cassette-tape i/f. Probably why they were less
successful here, with a cassette based market, than in the States
where they sold with a disk-drive.
The design with a dirty great cartridge port alongside the keyboard
didn't help either. :-)
Nick.
>On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 23:12:52 GMT, h...@cix.co.uk (Roger Muggleton)
>wrote:
>
>>There still are some oldies still going on XP, even edlin is still
>>installed!
>
>I know a person who actually *likes* EDLIN and uses it to this day!!!
I still use DOS Q-Edit in Windows 95SE. Always have done!
Superb editor.
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GM4.
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> If that's SemWare QEdit, I tried the shareware version 3.00 C and it
> would only edit tiny in-memory files. Did it ever grow up into a real
> editor?
Seems to work OK in Windows XP, but as you say, it limited to files
smaller than 640k or so. But big enough for most purposes.
> I now use TextPad which works very well for me.
PFE and WinVI used here.
Roger.
>If that's SemWare QEdit, I tried the shareware version 3.00 C and it would
>only edit tiny in-memory files. Did it ever grow up into a real editor?
It's limited in file length, but it has find and replace, print a
block and many other nice touches.
>I now use TextPad which works very well for me. One may download the full
>version and run it for 30 day free trial from http://www.textpad.com/
I have that as well in place of NotePad.
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GM4.
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>But it was a con trick, because they weren't "registers"
>and did not have the speed associated with registers.
>The Workspace Pointer implemented memory mapped
>variables.
>
When you were implementing multichannel datacomms
equipment, the 'instant' context change made the
performance rather good against processors using
stack based context saves. When multiple interrupt
vectors were needed, this processor could task switch
with exceptional ease. It was particularly suited to solving
this type of problem.
<walt>:
I used to like EDLIN. Quick and easy to write a short batch file.
I'd forgotten all about it - what a blast from
the past!
Stan
>Seems to work OK in Windows XP, but as you say, it limited to files
>smaller than 640k or so. But big enough for most purposes.
I wish i could get XP to stop forgetting it has a modem to talk to.
Plug my ELSA 56K Internet modem in and it promptly finds and installs
it. Turn it off and go to dial the net and it fails. Look in Control
Panel - Modems and is still listed but reports Nots Connected or
something similar.
If i start to reinstall it find it again and off i go...weird.
Cheers,
Jon.
> I wish i could get XP to stop forgetting it has a modem to talk to.
Both Windows 2000 and XP have difficulties with external modems, at least
the type you connect to serial ports. It seems you need to switch on the
modem before booting the PC. Maybe there is some logical reason for this,
but it's a PITA.
But at least my modem works if you turn it on first. I've had a selection
of internal and USB types, all of which were intermittently detected by
Windows 9x. Windows 2000 insisted in installing 3 versions of the current
modem, but XP knows it only once!
Never had any trouble with DOS.
Roger.
>In article <3bf244f8...@news.axion.bt.co.uk>, j...@cbugDEADWOOD.org.uk
>(Jon Harris) wrote:
>
>> I wish i could get XP to stop forgetting it has a modem to talk to.
>
>Both Windows 2000 and XP have difficulties with external modems, at least
>the type you connect to serial ports. It seems you need to switch on the
>modem before booting the PC. Maybe there is some logical reason for this,
>but it's a PITA.
Thanks for that I'll give it a try! My wife and kids are really giving
me earache, but at least the user profiles work now.
The only other problem is the Microsoft keyboard which is refusing to
have the " and @ symbols the right way round and fails to acknowledge
sterling.
Off to the MS site to d/l the drivers, only to find the exact keyboard
i had wasn't listed. There were two others very similar, d/led both
only to find both files corrupted...
Thanks for the pointer, though.
Cheers,
Jon.
You probably haven't got the UK keyboard set up properly.
Do you have something like this in your autoexec.bat? (not that you
should need one).
mode con codepage prepare=((850) C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\ega.cpi)
mode con codepage select=850
keyb uk,,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\keyboard.sys
Stan
>You probably haven't got the UK keyboard set up properly.
>
>Do you have something like this in your autoexec.bat? (not that you
>should need one).
>
>mode con codepage prepare=((850) C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\ega.cpi)
>mode con codepage select=850
>keyb uk,,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\keyboard.sys
I've no idea, I'll have a look this evening.
Thanks for the idea!
Cheers,
Jon.
You are unlikely to find an autoexec.bat - XP is nased on NT and doesn't
use these files.
Try Control Panel | Regional and Language options to see that it is set up
for the UK. Or do you have an American keyboard?
Roger.
if you are running XP then don't alter your autoexec
go to control panel and set your keyboard from there!!
73 jon
>>You probably haven't got the UK keyboard set up properly.
>>
>>Do you have something like this in your autoexec.bat? (not that you
>>should need one).
>>
>>mode con codepage prepare=((850) C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\ega.cpi)
>>mode con codepage select=850
>>keyb uk,,C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\keyboard.sys
>>
>if you are running XP then don't alter your autoexec
>
>go to control panel and set your keyboard from there!!
Quite a coincidence i was playing with this again last night!
The confusing thing is the language and keyboard are setup correctly
in CP as far as i can make out.
Shouldn't expect an MS keyboard to be compatible with XP though i
guess...
Cheers,
Jon.