Weekend FL Course in January 2006...
G0TOC
Epping, Essex, over the weekend of 21st/22nd January 2006.
Kindly contact me if you wish to participate, or know of anyone looking to
get on a course.
73, Marc Litchman ~ G0TOC.
Secretary, L&EFARS
Tel: 020-8502 1645
Mob: 07743-456058
Sandy Savage
"G0TOC" <g0...@lefars.org.uk> wrote in message
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abuse to-wards M3's
Regards,
Micky.
P.S. Mr Davidson leave me alone.
pointyhead
> What's the point man ?
Exactly. What is the point of a no fail exam???
> we are only CB,ers.
Correct.
> On my scanner I can only hear abuse to-wards M3's
What? The stuff Brain Reay never hears?
--
Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge
Sandy Savage
"pointyhead" <fts...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sandy Savage wrote:
>
>> What's the point man ?
>
> Exactly. What is the point of a no fail exam???
>
>> we are only CB,ers.
>
> Correct.
>
>> On my scanner I can only hear abuse to-wards M3's
>
> What? The stuff Brain Reay never hears?
>
Knob Head
Yes !!!! That's the words that come to mind.
Why can't you so called professional radio operators help other people
interested in our hobby? Oh sorry I am supposed to be from a council estate.
Get a life and help.
Micky.
pointyhead
> Hi Man,
>
>
> Knob Head
>
> Yes !!!! That's the words that come to mind.
Wow. I feel like I've been savaged by a toothless old family pet.
> Why can't you so called professional radio operators help other people
> interested in our hobby?
Professional? I'm an amateur, shows how much you know.
> Oh sorry I am supposed to be from a council estate.
You are? And this is relevent to this thread, how?
> Get a life and help.
What, can't you tick your own boxes?
> Micky.
I should have guessed. You've Disney written all over you.
Sandy Savage
When My Step Brother did his full exam back in 1982. You where looked upon
as professional. Just help other's to go past tick boxes, except anyone
under 12. tick boxes should be find for them until older.
I am not afraid to say I cannot cope with the math on the full exam. I was
on C.B when My Brother did his he tried to teach me but I could not get my
head around it. You have done it , so help other's.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
instead of sending them to Coventry.
Micky.
pointyhead
> When My Step Brother did his full exam back in 1982. You where looked upon
> as professional.
No we weren't.
> Just help other's to go past tick boxes, except anyone
> under 12. tick boxes should be find for them until older.
Nope, sorry. No one under 12 years of age should be allowed on the bands
without supervision and no one should be allowed on the bands after a
Shake 'n Bake instant ham course followed by a no fail exam.
> I am not afraid to say I cannot cope with the math on the full exam.
Perhaps you should consider another hobby?
> I was
> on C.B when My Brother did his he tried to teach me but I could not get my
> head around it. You have done it , so help other's.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Help yourself! Get the finger out and apply a bit of effort. If I did it
you can do it.
> instead of sending them to Coventry.
Sorry, I have been asked to teach at foundation courses. I refused as it
is a complete and total farce. I want nothing to do with it, the damage
it is doing or the muppets it produces.
Stan
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Micky,
I don't wish to be unkind, or rude, but the hobby is quite a
technical one that does offer a number of privileges.
As such, we are able to design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
equipment, and if we get it wrong (and a certain amount of mathematics is
involved), then we could conceivably disrupt communications on other
frequencies. For those reasons, I have to question the wisdom of allowing
you the privilege of the hobby, if, basically, you do not fully understand
what you are doing.
The current licensing scheme allows for a less technical examination to be
taken as the first step, and with it comes limited privileges. Although
there is an upgrade route through two other levels with exams, it appears
that quite a few people choose not to progress.
Some people have, in effect, done the minimum necessary to gain access to
the Amateur bands, do not adhere to the spirit of the licence granted to
them, and in general cause the less technical licences to gain a bad name.
Getting an "M3" licence and then treating the 2 metre band as an extension
of the CB band is an unfortunate example of such abuse. Excess transmitter
power is another.
If you read this newsgroup regularly, you will get a strong impression of
the dislike for the current licensing scheme as a direct result of the low
operating standards applied by SOME licence holders. Those more established
in the hobby (the "old school") don't like it too much, and I include myself
in that group.
In my local club, there are a number of Foundation licencees. As a direct
result of the training and encouragement they have received, their operating
standards are more than adequate, and they are also studying to enable
progression. For these reasons, I do not have a problem with them. Indeed, I
treat them as equals.
I don't know if you are within the catchment area of the club (Gillingham,
Kent), but if so, I am sure you would receive further help. Please
understand however, that if the maths is truly beyond you, a different hobby
utilising the skills you have in other areas may be more appropriate.
73 de Stan, G4EGH.
And yes, for those about to tear the above argument to pieces, I have
designed, constructed, and maintained all manner of Amateur radio equipment.
"Don't worry dear.... It is only a game of "Armchair Warriors"! :-)
MattD..
23:53, the following appeared on stdout:
<snip>
Cor! In a nutshell, Stan.
--
Radio glossary #25
APRS: A method of making 2m unusable for anyone in the local area by
continuously transmitting the position of your house, which never moves.
Brian Reay
news:aVKhf.1876$pc1....@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>
> as professional.
The RAE was never that complex, dispite what some claim. In fact the new
advanced syllabus is far detailed.
>Just help other's to go past tick boxes, except anyone under 12. tick boxes
>should be find for them until older.
> I am not afraid to say I cannot cope with the math on the full exam. I was
> on C.B when My Brother did his he tried to teach me but I could not get my
> head around it.
Your concern seems to be the maths. A tip, don't try to understand the
material via maths. Remember that most people who struggle with maths at
the level needed for the amateur exams probably need to build their
confidence as much, if not more, than learn maths. If you try to learn on
top of shaky maths you will expect to fail. However, if you understand what
is going first, it becomes a case of "adding some sums" to something you
already understand and you will feel more confident.
If you are looking for a course, find one where the instructor teaches the
physics then adds the maths. The RCE exams are not maths exams (anymore than
the old RAE was) and you need apply the formulae etc, not be able to derive
them. If you are really concerned over the maths, find a club that offers a
"maths primer". Contact me direct and I will see if I can locate you an
instructor that "teaches the physics first" and can offer some maths primer
help.
>You have done it , so help other's.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> instead of sending them to Coventry.
You need to understand Sandy that for some, the RAE (and subsequent amateur
licence) is the pinnacle of their academic achievement. Others not nearly
so technical as having passed the RAE would suggest. Both of these factors
breed insecurity and insecure people are rarely prepared to help others.
--
73
Brian, G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
Spike
Stan wrote:
>I don't wish to be unkind, or rude, but the hobby is quite a
>technical one that does offer a number of privileges.
>
> As such, we are able to design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
>equipment
<groan>
Anyone can 'design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
equipment'. No licence is necessary.
It is not a privelege that comes with an Amateur Licence.
</groan>
from
Aero Spike
Blair: "Removing Saddam....will be....a blessing to the Iraqi people"
Brian Reay
news:sg8go15kvb7drjjfm...@4ax.com...
>
> Stan wrote:
>
>>I don't wish to be unkind, or rude, but the hobby is quite a
>>technical one that does offer a number of privileges.
>>
>> As such, we are able to design, construct, and maintain radio
>> transmitting
>>equipment
>
> <groan>
>
> Anyone can 'design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
> equipment'. No licence is necessary.
>
> It is not a privelege that comes with an Amateur Licence.
>
> </groan>
Funny, this 'design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting equipment'
claptrap keeps coming up. Who was it who sold a FT101 because a few pages
were missing from the manual?
As it happens, one of the local repair shops in run by a M3. He is very
adept at fixing radios (also tvs and videos), so much so I've heard a local
amateur takes equipment there to be repaired after he himself has offered to
repair it but can't!
Ian Jackson
<Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> writes
'Anyone' can NOT design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
equipment'. Only those with the necessary knowledge and skill can do
that. The learning that you used to have to do to in order to get an
amateur licence was usually sufficient - at least to get you started.
You probably know that already.
Ian.
--
Spike
Brian Reay wrote:
>Funny, this 'design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting equipment'
>claptrap keeps coming up.
Doesn't it just?
I thought it was just part of someone's world of make-believe.
>Who was it who sold a FT101 because a few pages
>were missing from the manual?
erm....erm....gimme a clue.....;-)
>As it happens, one of the local repair shops in run by a M3. He is very
>adept at fixing radios (also tvs and videos), so much so I've heard a local
>amateur takes equipment there to be repaired after he himself has offered to
>repair it but can't!
LOL!
Gordon Hudson
<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:56:17 GMT, "Sandy Savage"
> <profi...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>Why can't you so called professional radio operators
>
>
> "Professionals" get paid for it old son...
> Amateurs don't.
Speak for yourself!
When I was at my peak as a CW operator I got paid to do a contest with
another club....
Chaney
--
Chaney
Chaney's World
www.chaney.i12.com
"Stan" <Rub...@rubbish.com> wrote in message
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Spike
Ian Jackson wrote:
>'Anyone' can NOT design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
>equipment'. Only those with the necessary knowledge and skill can do
>that. The learning that you used to have to do to in order to get an
>amateur licence was usually sufficient - at least to get you started.
>You probably know that already.
'Anyone', in the sense that no-one needs a licence to do those things,
which was the qualifying condition implied by the OP.
Chaney
Around here you wouldn't give a M3 a bottle of Robinsons Barley and a jug of
water and ask them to dilute!!!...
--
Chaney
Chaney's World
www.chaney.i12.com
"Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
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jim.gm4dhj
> I don't wish to be unkind, or rude, but the hobby is quite a
> technical one that does offer a number of privileges.
>
> As such, we are able to design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
> equipment, and if we get it wrong (and a certain amount of mathematics is
> involved), then we could conceivably disrupt communications on other
> frequencies. For those reasons, I have to question the wisdom of allowing
> you the privilege of the hobby, if, basically, you do not fully understand
> what you are doing.
>
> The current licensing scheme allows for a less technical examination to be
> taken as the first step, and with it comes limited privileges. Although
> there is an upgrade route through two other levels with exams, it appears
> that quite a few people choose not to progress.
>
> Some people have, in effect, done the minimum necessary to gain access to
> the Amateur bands, do not adhere to the spirit of the licence granted to
> them, and in general cause the less technical licences to gain a bad name.
> Getting an "M3" licence and then treating the 2 metre band as an extension
> of the CB band is an unfortunate example of such abuse. Excess transmitter
> power is another.
> 73 de Stan, G4EGH.
Wish I had said that !....You are my new Hero ! ............
jim.gm4dhj
"Chaney" <cha...@i12.com> wrote in message
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> Your story's are getting better than mine...
>
> Around here you wouldn't give a M3 a bottle of Robinsons Barley and a jug
> of water and ask them to dilute!!!...
>
> --
>
> Chaney
But you could give them some Hash, skins and Tobacco and ask them to smoke
it........
Jeff
>equipment'. No licence is necessary.
Maintaining (and testing your designs) can be a problem if it involves
actually transmitting.
A licence could be required.
73
Jeff
pointyhead
> As it happens, one of the local repair shops in run by a M3. He is very
> adept at fixing radios (also tvs and videos), so much so I've heard a local
> amateur takes equipment there to be repaired after he himself has offered to
> repair it but can't!
Which proves once again that no matter how easy the entry and how simple
the upgrade path there will _ALWAYS_ be those too lazy too stupid or
both to make the effort to do so.
Gordon Hudson
"Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
It all falls apart though when the people running the exams let the
candidates cheat or assist them in doing so.
We all know this goes on which is why there are geographical pockets of
people who should not have licences getting them.
Also, you will be hard pressed to find an MM3 sticking to 10W on HF
I have heard one working a pile up into the states on 80m at night with a
signal well in excess of what you would expect for even 100w.
Ret selling a 10w HF rig and see what interest there is.
Very little from M3's , mainly from QRPers.
I know because I am selling one.
Brian Reay
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>>
>
> It all falls apart though when the people running the exams let the
> candidates cheat or assist them in doing so.
> We all know this goes on which is why there are geographical pockets of
> people who should not have licences getting them.
Gordon, if you know this is happening, report it officially. That is what I
would do.
If you don't, or can't support your claim, it is just so much anti-M3
bitching.
MattD..
2005 13:00, the following appeared on stdout:
> If you don't, or can't support your claim, it is just so much anti-M3
> bitching.
Heehee! Remember, Gordon, when the M3 first came out and a certain G8 was
stomping around making lots of noise (it was a magnificent tantrum, even
by amateur radio standards. You really should have been there) because
the M3s had more privileges than he did? Isn't it amazing how a couple of
years makes them think we have memories like a sieve.
Anti-M3 bitching indeed. But now it feeds his ego, so we mustn't attack
it...
--
Radio glossary #33
M3 filter: Any American station that has "had the privilege".
Brian Reay
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> After replacing Brian Reay with a small shell script on Saturday 26 Nov
> 2005 13:00, the following appeared on stdout:
>
>> If you don't, or can't support your claim, it is just so much anti-M3
>> bitching.
>
> Heehee! Remember, Gordon, when the M3 first came out and a certain G8 was
> stomping around making lots of noise (it was a magnificent tantrum, even
> by amateur radio standards. You really should have been there) because
> the M3s had more privileges than he did? Isn't it amazing how a couple of
> years makes them think we have memories like a sieve.
>
> Anti-M3 bitching indeed. But now it feeds his ego, so we mustn't attack
> it...
I have supported the scheme from its very beginning. I've never been
"anti-M3".
You are just miffed you don't seem to have managed to teach someone to do a
SWR measurement.
pointyhead
> The RAE was never that complex, dispite what some claim.
Absolutely correct! This is why I and others wonder what dumbing down to
your level and 6 yr olds is all about!
> In fact the new
> advanced syllabus is far detailed.
Rubbish and you know it. The exam has recently had questions removed to
make it easier and as if that wasn't enough a crib sheet is handed to
candidates to assist them.
> If you try to learn on
> top of shaky maths you will expect to fail.
Tosh, complete and utter. It is all but impossible to fail the
foundation exam. Why do you keep up this pretence?
> You need to understand Sandy that for some, the RAE (and subsequent amateur
> licence) is the pinnacle of their academic achievement.
What you need to understand Sandy is that if you want a licence you can
get one with no effort. If you want to be 100% sure of a pass there are
any amount of clubs willing to take a back hander, trust me on this. It
is amazing that people whose academic achievements include degrees are
too stupid to comprehend this or perhaps in fairness to Brain too
stubborn to admit. Take whatever Brain says with a pinch of salt, he's a
teacher with a Napoleon complex who has been proved wrong so many times
in this group that it is no longer fun to inflict further humiliation on
him.
> so technical as having passed the RAE would suggest. Both of these factors
> breed insecurity and insecure people are rarely prepared to help others.
Brian, I'm quite prepared to help you come up to my level any day. When
would you like to start your morse tuition?
MattD..
> You are just miffed you don't seem to have managed to teach someone to
> do a SWR measurement.
Did I say SWR, old chap? Did I? Where?
Technical. Bwahahaha!
--
Radio glossary #18
Resistor: A device which restricts the number of aerials you can put up.
Comes in two forms: Female and the local council.
zYYPK
> I have supported the scheme from its very beginning. I've never been
> "anti-M3".
bwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i remember your jumping up and down too !!
jim.gm4dhj
>> "Professionals" get paid for it old son...
>> Amateurs don't.
>
> Speak for yourself!
>
> When I was at my peak as a CW operator I got paid to do a contest with
> another club....
>
The other way of making money around about GM4N** was to pay the new peer cw
examiners with cash or whiskey/whisky........
zYYPK
(zYYPK) wrote:
and here's one i've just found on google.
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From: "Brian Reay" <brian.r...@bigfoot.com>
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Subject: Re: Transition arrangements for Full "B" and Intermediate "B"
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"Don Beattie" <g...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> As a follow up to my previous note about the intention to develop
transition
> arrangements for Full B and Novice B licensees to access HF with
> Foundation licence privileges, the RSGB in agreement with the RA
> has released the announcement below.
>
> The reasoning behind this is that Full "B" and Intermediate "B" licensees
> already have a technical qualification which more than meets the
Foundation
> level. The RA and the Society have agreed that after one year, it can be
> reasonably assumed that there is no need for the operating technique
> training which forms part of the Foundation programme, and so the
> only remaining issue is the Morse requirement.
>
> Despite some posts to the Newsgroup suggesting otherwise, it currently IS
an
> international requirement for a level of Morse capability before an
amateur
> transmitting licence for the HF bands can be issued.
>
> The relevant section of the ITU Radio Regulations is section 25.5 which
> says:
>
> S25.5 Any person seeking a licence to operate the apparatus of an amateur
> station shall prove that he is able to send correctly by hand and to
receive
> correctly by ear, texts in Morse code signals. The administrations
concerned
> may, however, waive this requirement in the case of stations making use
> exclusively of frequencies above 30 MHz.
>
> Don Beattie, G3BJ
> President, RSGB
>
> The text of the RSGB announcement is as follows:
>
> CLASS B's TO GAIN ACCESS TO HF THROUGH FOUNDATION
> LICENCE.
>
> Following last week's announcement on the new licensing structure,
> further discussions between the RSGB and the RA have resulted in
> agreement to the introduction of a bridging process that will allow
> Class B licence holders access to the HF Bands without having to
> take a 5wpm Morse test.
>
> From 1 January 2002, those Class B licensees who have held a
> Class B licence for not less than 12 months and wish to gain
> access to the HF Bands may obtain a Foundation Licence by
> simply taking the Foundation Licence Morse Assessment. This will
> enable them to operate on the HF Bands as a Foundation licensee.
> They will have to apply for a Foundation Licence and use their M2
> callsign when operating on the HF Bands. They will of course
> continue to enjoy the privileges of their existing Class B licence
> whilst operating above 30MHz.
>
> Martin Cain, for the RA said "This shows the value that the RA
> places on our relationship with the RSGB. The Agency, following
> recommendations from the RSGB are very pleased to be able to
> fast track Class B's in the Foundation Licence structure"
>
> Following this exciting development the RSGB will be announcing
> shortly a special 'Morse Campaign' for Class B's who wish to take
> this long awaited opportunity to operate HF without having to take a
> 12 or 5wpm Morse test.
>
This is truely adding insult to injury and makes even less sense than the
first anouncement.
I can only assume the RSGB team who worked on this 'deal' are a bunch of
total idiots.
73
Brian
G8OSN.
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the '' insult to injury '' refers the the proposal that a green-horn
m3 with less qualification than a b-licensee will get access to hf
whilst the 'higher qualified' b-licensee has to stop at 50.000mhz !!!
---THE IARU STANDARD ON MORSE SPEED IS NOTE-WORTHY...-----
However, the ITU do not specify how 'high' the requirement is (in WPM)
or how it is tested- this has been left to national Governments. In the
past many have followed the IARU (International Amateur Radio Union) line an
and adopted 12wpm, recently 'down graded' to 5 wpm. NOTE:, the IARU is
not a Governmental type body- it is a 'club of clubs', most like our
beloved RSGB. The IARU is not a regulatory body like the ITU that
'must' be obeyed by Governments.
-----------------
BUT IN A LETTER TO THE RA...
---THE IARU IS A CLUB OF CLUBS WITH NO STANDING -----
The IARU is a 'club of clubs' with its members comprising national
amateur radio societies. As such, it has no 'standing' at government level and
can not make or enforce national or international rules and regulations,
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zYYPK
(zYYPK) wrote:
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Subject: Re: Transition arrangements for Full "B" and Intermediate "B"
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[[[snip by zpk]]]
The Foundation license is just not going to work. They are not going
spend the time and money on a two day course. It should have been a
[[[snip by zpk]]]
--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT)...
Remove the 'NOSPAM' in my email address to reply.
---
>From harry.m1...@tiscali.co.uk Sun Jul 27 21:19:17 2003
My dog could do it, so where is the problem?
--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT)...
(talking about the Foundation Licence Morse Assessment - with crib sheet)
pointyhead
> If you're not enjoying it, you're not doing it right.
(cough) I was lying. What a deputy! I'd look out if I were you :)
zYYPK
(zYYPK) wrote:
>
> This is truely adding insult to injury and makes even less sense than the
> first anouncement.
>
> I can only assume the RSGB team who worked on this 'deal' are a bunch of
> total idiots.
>
> 73
>
> Brian
> G8OSN.
>
> ===============================================================
i wonder if any of THAT RSGB TEAM are still in the RSGB ??????
MattD..
14:50, the following appeared on stdout:
> oh and someone else.....
Oh gawd, PK! Don't rattle his cage, for goodness' sake. We'll have all his
hangers-on infesting the place again.
You're right, though.
--
Radio glossary #49
Callsign envy: The new scheme for those without a penis.
zYYPK
> claptrap keeps coming up. Who was it who sold a FT101 because a few pages
> were missing from the manual?
who was it , that with an admirable achievement of TWO DEGREES wouldnt
lift a finger TO TRY AND PASS A SIMPLE 5 WPM MORSE TEST AND INSTEAD RAN
AWAY TO SIT THE MORSE APPRECIATION-WITH-CRIB-SHEET ?
c'mon.... tell me... who was it ?
pointyhead
Thanks OC, very enlightening.
> I can only assume the RSGB team who worked on this 'deal' are a bunch of
> total idiots.
You have to wonder what particular brand of idiocy forces the person who
stated this to run for election to join the "idiots", having said that
however I can think of no one better qualified :)
zYYPK
> Brian, I'm quite prepared to help you come up to my level any day. When
> would you like to start your morse tuition?
bwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
dont wait THAT long !
zYYPK
> zYYPK wrote:
>
> Thanks OC, very enlightening.
>
> > I can only assume the RSGB team who worked on this 'deal' are a bunch of
> > total idiots.
>
> You have to wonder what particular brand of idiocy forces the person who
> stated this to run for election to join the "idiots", having said that
> however I can think of no one better qualified :)
AMATEUR RADIO DEVELOPMENT !
---
R:020211/1548Z @:GB7SOU.#48.GBR.EU #:40361 [SOUTHAMPTON] $:620832G7DTH
..
I've done the Morse
Assessment- it is as easy as they say. Even my 11 year old daughter passed
fair and square with NO PREPARATION and about an hours graft at the local
club.
The idea may fail but your only investment is to send an Email. Honest.
73
Brian
-----------------
Extract from Bulletin sent on packet radio by the sysop of gb7sou on Feb 11 2002.
In the introductory text, the sysop informs everyone that the following
text is from a well known b-licensee.
It is my opinion that it is sad that b-licensee didnt
encourage people to try and pass a real morse test but
instead encouraged his intended audience to go off and
sit the morse assessment that even his 11 year old daughter
could do without much preparation !!
Brian Reay
<class-a-pk...@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net>
wrote in message
Well Paul, or is it Rumple wotsit, I'm pleased you are going to be employed
trying to find something I've posted that is anti-M3. No doubt the search
will take you a long time and be fruitless. At least it will keep you off
the streets. Downside it you will be posting irrelevant claptrap on here.
By the way, I've never operated packet within range of GB7SOU. I assume
you don't know much about packet.
MattD..
> By the way, I've never operated packet within range of GB7SOU. I
> assume you don't know much about packet.
Nor do you, by the sounds of it. Did you read the header and explanation
he posted? The sysop of GB7SOU posted that on his own server. Nowhere
does he state that you sent the message on that BBS. Whether the original
was being relayed (don't forget, sysops had to screen anything they
transmitted), was an excerpt from another source or was an @GBR bull
isn't clear.
Technical? Bwahahaha!
--
Radio glossary #40
VSWR: A magical property inversely related to certain lengths of coaxial
cable.
Brian Reay
> After replacing Brian Reay with a small shell script on Saturday 26 Nov
> 2005 15:26, the following appeared on stdout:
>
>> By the way, I've never operated packet within range of GB7SOU. I
>> assume you don't know much about packet.
>
> Nor do you, by the sounds of it. Did you read the header and explanation
> he posted? The sysop of GB7SOU posted that on his own server. Nowhere
> does he state that you sent the message on that BBS. Whether the original
> was being relayed (don't forget, sysops had to screen anything they
> transmitted), was an excerpt from another source or was an @GBR bull
> isn't clear.
So the relevance of GB7SOU is??? Stop trying to be clever Matt, you aren't
up to it. Just admit you are miffed and go sulk some more.
Paul has posted this before, I'm not denying it was either my post or one
very like one of mine but he can't even figure out the BBS I used. (It was
probably GB7WIG).
He is fishing without bait, as usual. I just tug his line from time to time
to keep Beaumount Woods awake with the sound of him stamping his feet.
MattD..
> So the relevance of GB7SOU is??? Stop trying to be clever Matt
Up against you, I don't need to try.
You're still looking silly, Brian. The relevance of SOU has been explained
quite easily.
Technical? Bwahahaha!
--
Radio glossary #2
Aerial: A piece of modern art which is anathema to women, transparent to
birds but not to wind, the slightest breath of which brings it crashing
down.
Brian Reay
> After replacing Brian Reay with a small shell script on Saturday 26 Nov
> 2005 15:56, the following appeared on stdout:
>
>> So the relevance of GB7SOU is??? Stop trying to be clever Matt
>
> Up against you, I don't need to try.
>
> You're still looking silly, Brian. The relevance of SOU has been explained
> quite easily.
No it hasn't. Paul used it to suggest it added some level of authenticity
to his post. It didn't, without a link to a BBS I used it added nothing. I
could have come from anyone or anywhere. Silly thing is, I'm not denying the
post was mine so his trying to be clever wasn't needed.
Whatever Matt. If you want to believe you've "won" go ahead, you clearly
don't get enough "winners" it this bothers you.
Gordon Hudson
"jim.gm4dhj" <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:2q_hf.4868$aU5...@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
No, that came arount GM4W**
I was tested at the radio surveyors office.
Gordon
GM4SVM
Gordon Hudson
"Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
OK, so an examiner tells you he is doing this.
How do you prove he is doing it?
It is impossible for me to have that sort of evidence, and you know it.
Explain then why in Edinburgh and East Lothian people having MM3 callsigns
appear to have a clue, while those in some areas of the west and more
central areas of scotland
seem to be utterly clueless.
There is clearly a problem with the standard of what they are being taught
and this is not being picked up in the examinations.
I wonder why that is?
MattD..
> Whatever Matt. If you want to believe you've "won" go ahead, you clearly
> don't get enough "winners" it this bothers you.
Au contraire, old chap. I am with 'LVN's philosophy regarding this group,
where anything I see on here goes away when I close down the NNTP client.
I certainly feel no need to try to intimidate people over e-mail, drag
people through courts because my skin is thinner than a fag paper or
flush people down the toilet with a scatological fixation that is worthy
of Airy. Sound familiar, old son?
Of course, had you not butted in where your egocentricity and idiotic
pre-pubescent licensing scheme was clearly not wanted, you wouldn't have
had a day like this, but I don't expect you to learn from it. In fact, I
suggest you are incapable of learning anything with your big, "I know
more than anyone" ego in the way.
Now, why don't you trot out Nimrod again and complete the idiocy. Your pet
must be hiding somewhere...
--
Radio glossary #12
Veroboard: A magical substrate for a circuit that will never, ever
function
if built on a real PCB.
pointyhead
> When I was at my peak as a CW operator I got paid to do a contest with
> another club....
You're my hero :)
Brian Reay
> OK, so an examiner tells you he is doing this.
> How do you prove he is doing it?
Same way as you did for the RAE, and the US exams, etc. Exam questions are
vetted by a team independent of those offering training, pass mark is agreed
by them, and the actual exams are open to "spot checks".
> It is impossible for me to have that sort of evidence, and you know it.
So you are making serious claims you can't back up?
> Explain then why in Edinburgh and East Lothian people having MM3 callsigns
> appear to have a clue, while those in some areas of the west and more
> central areas of scotland
> seem to be utterly clueless.
Same reason that some people who've passed a driving test seem poor drivers.
ANY exam tests your knowledge on the day. Look at some of the stuff on here
from RAE holders.
Also, it is easy for someone experienced to dismiss newcomers as "clueless"
if they don't allow for them being newcomers. Everyone was a beginner once
is a good maxim.
> There is clearly a problem with the standard of what they are being taught
> and this is not being picked up in the examinations.
> I wonder why that is?
Depends what you are expecting. If you expect an newly qualified M3 to know
as much as a newly qualified RAE holder, then you don't appreciate the
nature of the scheme.
FL is a beginners scheme, the exam level is set accordingly. The IL is a bit
harder (close to the old Novice scheme), and the Advanced Exam is close to
the old RAE, if anything a bit harder. No doubt some who haven't looked
will deny this but that is up to them. If nothing else, compare the syllabi
for the Advanced Exam and the old RAE.
pointyhead
> Explain then why in Edinburgh and East Lothian people having MM3 callsigns
> appear to have a clue, while those in some areas of the west and more
> central areas of scotland
> seem to be utterly clueless.
Furthermore explain to me how retard MI0IKF was scoring 20% in his mocks
yet was able to qsy to another club and in 3 weeks (if memory serves me
right) pass the RAE.
pointyhead
> Explain then why in Edinburgh and East Lothian people having MM3 callsigns
> appear to have a clue, while those in some areas of the west and more
> central areas of scotland
> seem to be utterly clueless.
I think you must appreciate Gordon that it matters not how well the
course is or isn't taught or how bright and committed the students are.
At the end of it they all sit a bloody exam which it is all but
impossible to fail.
Brian Reay
> Au contraire, old chap. I am with 'LVN's philosophy regarding this group,
> where anything I see on here goes away when I close down the NNTP client.
Somehow I don't think so. In fact, you seem quite riled. Calm down Matt,
you'll be creeping around car parks next and checking our what shoes people
are wearing.
zYYPK
> "zYYPK"
> <class-a-pk...@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net>
> wrote in message
>
>
> Well Paul, or is it Rumple wotsit, I'm pleased you are going to be employed
u already know my name.
you have known me by email for years -- predating your "lets make an m3"
website.
therefore the rumpel thingy doesnt even apply.
we know exactly who each other is.
we have exchanged emails in the past when i taught you how to use the
ALT="blah blah" perperly and brought your attention to using them to
assist blind people use your site
> trying to find something I've posted that is anti-M3. No doubt the search
> will take you a long time and be fruitless. At least it will keep you off
balderdash Brian.
you had a wonderful track record of self-improvement with TWO DEGREES and
everything going for you and then what did you do ??
not only avoid a SIMPLE morse test at 5wpm..but encouraged others to go
off and sit a farce of a zero-speed (my dog could do it) morse assessment.
> the streets. Downside it you will be posting irrelevant claptrap on here.
what ????? and you used to slag me off....about diction and grammEr !!!
> By the way, I've never operated packet within range of GB7SOU.
i know- you've said BEFORE but you MISSED the first bit.
I said who sent it...and introduced as being from a another b-licensee.
and while i have your un-killfiled attention...
IF YOU DID NOT WRITE THE WORDS THAT I QUOTE THEN DENY IT.
is this reference to distance from gb7sou some sort of half-baked attempt
to distance yourself from the text ???
are you reluctant to admit that your "letter to the masses" LEAKED ?
> I assume
> you don't know much about packet.
as for packet.... is this the start of a "i have more tncs than you" ??
go on brian...is it...???
how many tnc's do you have brian ?
how many bbs's did you run ?
how many years did you pay for the electricity that ran the bbs ?
how many mornings were you late for work because the bbs crashed during
the night ?
how many nights did you wonder if the aerials for the bbs would be still
there after the storm ?
how many times have you wished that you could use 2m yourself
for a chat only for the bbs vhf txrx to make a qso so intermittent it
wasnt possible ?
how many times have you bought bits+pieces for the bbs you didnt run
so that it would be easier to look after ?
how many times did you use your own money to phone-modem backlogs of mail
through because of a digi-peater failure ?
how many nights did you have been expected to have your bbs on-the-air
regardless-of-any-disaster by some users just because they thought they
owned it ?
how many sysop meetings did you travel to at personal expense ?
how many ukip meetings did you travel to at personal expense ?
you have known(of) me for years..
i helped you when your knowledge of html was lacking.
i will not help you turn amateur radio into multiband cb.
many TRIED TO TELL YOU long ago that you were on the wrong track.
zYYPK
> Paul has posted this before, I'm not denying it was either my post or one
> very like one of mine but he can't even figure out the BBS I used. (It was
> probably GB7WIG).
oh good...
>
> He is fishing without bait, as usual. I just tug his line from time to time
> to keep Beaumount Woods awake with the sound of him stamping his feet.
where ?????????
have you been talking to someone in dublin recently ?
and WITH a dublin accent ?????????????
Brian Reay
news:dq0if.6485$w73....@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> Gordon Hudson wrote:
>
>> Explain then why in Edinburgh and East Lothian people having MM3
>> callsigns
>> appear to have a clue, while those in some areas of the west and more
>> central areas of scotland
>> seem to be utterly clueless.
>
> Furthermore explain to me how retard MI0IKF was scoring 20% in his mocks
> yet was able to qsy to another club and in 3 weeks (if memory serves me
> right) pass the RAE.
Maybe he studied. Maybe the other club had a good instructor.
The old RAE pass mark was sometimes as low as 40% so maybe he didn't have to
get that much better. If it was a good mock, it was probably a bit harder
than the real exam (standard practice is to use the mocks to show up weak
areas).
You see this sort of thing in all exams- students from second sets getting
better scores than those in top sets because they were able to produce the
goods on the day. Some people just don't put themselves out for "mocks".
Students predicted to get a good pass who have a bad day and flunk the exam.
That is life.
Who knows.
If you are going to suggest that he did something wrong, at least have the
gonads to put your name to it.
Stan
news:sg8go15kvb7drjjfm...@4ax.com...
>
> <groan>
>
> Anyone can 'design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
> equipment'. No licence is necessary.
>
> It is not a privelege that comes with an Amateur Licence.
>
> </groan>
> from
> Aero Spike
No, but that is something that the Amateur licence allows you to test, ON
AIR, without being employed by the industry, and having a suitable
commercial licence to utilise.
And if you happen to be a commercial enterprise, you will not survive long
if your design is less than acceptable.
You knew dam'n well what I meant.
Stan.
"Don't worry dear.... It is only a game of "Armchair Warriors"! :-)
zYYPK
> > . The relevance of SOU has been explained
> > quite easily.
>
> No it hasn't.
you dont know much about packet then do you ???
AHOY ALL EX-BBS-SYSOPS.
1.
what is SO IMPORTANT ABOUT THE ORIGINATING HEADER OF ANY PACKET MESSAGE ?
2.
WHAT DOES IT CONTAIN ?
3.
WHAT ELSE CAN IT CONTAIN TO ENABLE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE THING IN 2. ?
4.
IS THERE NOT SOME REQUIREMENT FOR A GB7 CALLSIGN TO USE SOFTWARE THAT
INSERTED HEADER LINES ?
> could have come from anyone or anywhere. Silly thing is, I'm not denying the
> post was mine so his trying to be clever wasn't needed.
OH GOOD.
I dont need to prove to you how clever i am,
all i have to say is "pass at 12wpm morse test" and i leave you behind.
> Whatever Matt. If you want to believe you've "won" go ahead, you clearly
IT IS MY OPINION THAT that is something you normally try do...
Brian Reay
<class-a-pk...@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net>
wrote in message news:43888d36...@news.iol.ie...
> we know exactly who each other is.
> we have exchanged emails in the past when i taught you how to use the
> ALT="blah blah" perperly and brought your attention to using them to
> assist blind people use your site
Rubbish Paul.
The tip on that came from the RNIB.
>
> IF YOU DID NOT WRITE THE WORDS THAT I QUOTE THEN DENY IT.
If they weren't mine (and I think they were) they are darn close.
<rest of your trantrum snipped>
Go lay down Paul, you'll be stalking around car parks next.
Stan
<class-a-pk...@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net>
wrote in message news:4388795f...@news.iol.ie...
S.C.U.M? (Seemingly Childish Useless Mentor).
zYYPK
> I was tested at the radio surveyors office.
snap!
and in ei... i had to produce photo-id
MattD..
> Somehow I don't think so.
Think? There's a new idea for you... :-)
--
Radio glossary #39
Call-book: The RSGB's marketing list.
zYYPK
> When I was at my peak as a CW operator I got paid to do a contest with
> another club....
in sunday-league-football terms...
you were a ''ringer'' ??????????
zYYPK
> "zYYPK"
> <class-a-pk...@multi-band-cb-is-here---its-as-easy-as-they-say.br.eircom.ie.net>
> wrote in message news:43888d36...@news.iol.ie...
> > we know exactly who each other is.
> > we have exchanged emails in the past when i taught you how to use the
> > ALT="blah blah" perperly and brought your attention to using them to
> > assist blind people use your site
>
> Rubbish Paul.
>
> The tip on that came from the RNIB.
i told you how to use it and why it was handy to have.
> > IF YOU DID NOT WRITE THE WORDS THAT I QUOTE THEN DENY IT.
> If they weren't mine (and I think they were) they are darn close.
>
> <rest of your trantrum snipped>
no tantrum brian...
i dont need to... i'm the one with the class-a licence.
and i notice you DID NOT ANSWER ONE OF THE QUESTIONS
********* NOT ONE ************
> Go lay down Paul,
i dont need to...
pass at 12wpm ...
and you with two degrees... you would have walked 12wpm if you had tried.
> ____ ________ ______ ___ _____ ____.
tut tut Brian...
is that any way for a gentleman with TWO DEGREES and an M3 CALLSIGN to
behave ?
is that any way for the MINISTER FOR AMATEUR RADIO DEVELOPMENT to behave ?
jim.gm4dhj
Stan
> Take whatever Brain says with a pinch of salt, he's a teacher with a
> Napoleon complex who has been proved wrong so many times in this group
> that it is no longer fun to inflict further humiliation on him.
>
You are so wrong.......It STILL_IS_SO much fun...!!!
Watch the reaction when of one of his armchair adversaries approaches him
face to face. You would think he had just come into contact with the Grim
Reaper. No-one I know (including me) poses a physical threat to Brian or his
family though....
73 de Stan.
jim.gm4dhj
> No, that came arount GM4W**
> I was tested at the radio surveyors office.
>
> Gordon
> GM4SVM
>
.......not that he has ever used CW since........
jim.gm4dhj
> There is clearly a problem with the standard of what they are being taught
> and this is not being picked up in the examinations.
> I wonder why that is?
>
>
>
zYYPK
(zYYPK) wrote:
still waiting for an answer Brian.
zYYPK
> Perhaps the running clubs are to blame ? .......
perhaps they are similarly challenged for membership ?
Duncan Munro
If this is the sort of comment that comes from a prospective RSGB
Council member and Chairman of the RSGB Development Committee, it's
ample evidence of the low depths to which amateur radio administration
and training has now sunk to in the UK.
--
Duncan Munro
http://www.m0kgk.co.uk/
tox
"Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
>
> Funny, this 'design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
> equipment' claptrap keeps coming up. Who was it who sold a FT101 because a
Was it the same person who suffers from nerves, when he attempts to repair
radios?
Regards
tox
tox
"Nedlar" <S...@Techno.invalid> wrote in message
news:6udgo1tiaphm37bmq...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:28:54 +0000, Spike <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
> Could it have been the silly twat who wrote the following...
>
Tut tut
The foul mouthed Cb'er, once again reveals himself...
tox
pointyhead
> Maybe he studied.
Jeez man. Listen and I'll join the dots for you. This retard can't
remember his own callsign between overs, this guy is registered thick,
this guy could not count to twenty even with his socks removed. Are you
getting the picture?
> Maybe the other club had a good instructor.
No it doesn't. The other club is famous, _FAMOUS_ for "putting" people
on the air.
> The old RAE pass mark was sometimes as low as 40% so maybe he didn't have to
> get that much better. If it was a good mock, it was probably a bit harder
> than the real exam (standard practice is to use the mocks to show up weak
> areas).
Brian, I don't know if this is deliberate but you're making yourself
appear thicker than the guy in question.
> You see this sort of thing in all exams- students from second sets getting
> better scores than those in top sets because they were able to produce the
> goods on the day. Some people just don't put themselves out for "mocks".
> Students predicted to get a good pass who have a bad day and flunk the exam.
> That is life.
>
> Who knows.
I know, the dogs in the street know. THIS GUY IS NOT CAPABLE OF PASSING
AN RAE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? IT IS NOT WITHIN HIS ABILITY. You are in
denial. Only a complete gimp would argue the case. Only a muppet would
support a system pitched so low that it allows the winos and junkies and
children on to the amateur bands. Do you appreciate the damage you are
doing? Do you? You've got to hear our local repeater when the scum are
in full voice. Seriously, is this really the future for Amateur radio?
Is it?
> If you are going to suggest that he did something wrong, at least have the
> gonads to put your name to it.
Don't for a minute think Brain that I'm lacking in the nether regions. I
have tackled those involved in the blatent cheating here publicly. Tell
you what Brain, next you're in Potty Bar and your paths cross YOU ask
the DRM for Antrim what the heck he as a club tutor and Chairman was
doing reading the RAE and the answers to a club member who is supposed
to be dyslexic. I did, in public in an audience that also included the
RM and was told that the RSGB gave it's permission. BTW the dyslexic has
posted on this group, local groups and any amout of CB bulletin boards
and he now uses the reissued B call of the club treasurer. Dyslexic my
backside. Oh, and you might want to ask the same DRM what he was playing
at when he stood before an entire FL class and read the exam paper /and/
the answers to them. I did, and I was told, and I quote, "I had to as
half of them couldn't read".
Steve
> <rest of your trantrum snipped>
>
> Go lay down Paul, you'll be stalking around car parks next.
>
Please will you enlighten me about this car park and shoe fixation that
you appear to have. You have mentioned it twice within this topic and I
am none the wiser.
Could it be a scatological obsession?, Tnx MattD :)
If it is, then my best advice would be to sniff your fingers after
unlocking your car...maybe one of your admirers left a calling card :-)
HTH Steve
Brian Reay
news:6Y0if.16010$Lw5....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Watch the reaction when of one of his armchair adversaries approaches him
> face to face. You would think he had just come into contact with the Grim
> Reaper. No-one I know (including me) poses a physical threat to Brian or
> his family though....
It isn't me you have to convince of that Stan, it is my daughters. They saw
your other side before Linda and I did. In comparison to Linda and the
girls, I'm a fan of yours. Maybe you know that and that is why you tried to
"buddy up" on IK. Hopefully now you know that isn't going to happen,
certainly those listening know what you've been about. Several of your
"mates" have since made a point of distancing themselves from your
activities.
You never did quite explain why you tried to find my car in the car park, do
you?
Have a nice stomp Stan, at least I can assure the girls that while your are
venting your anger on here your aren't going to 'visit'.
Stan
--
"Don't worry dear.... It is only a game of "Armchair Warriors"! :-)
"Spike" <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> wrote in message
news:eoago1p3bj1ep9k5d...@4ax.com...
>
> Ian Jackson wrote:
>
>>'Anyone' can NOT design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
>>equipment'. Only those with the necessary knowledge and skill can do
>>that. The learning that you used to have to do to in order to get an
>>amateur licence was usually sufficient - at least to get you started.
>>You probably know that already.
>
> 'Anyone', in the sense that no-one needs a licence to do those things,
> which was the qualifying condition implied by the OP.
> from
> Aero Spike
>
> Blair: "Removing Saddam....will be....a blessing to the Iraqi people"
"As such, we are able to design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
equipment, and if we get it wrong (and a certain amount of mathematics is
involved), then we could conceivably disrupt communications on other
frequencies."
Er....... Disrupting communications on other frequencies implies that the
equipment we have designed, constructed, or maintained is connected to an
antenna, and radio frequency energy is being radiated on an undesirable
frequency as a result.
Radiating from an antenna is an activity we are allowed to pursue under the
terms of an Amateur licence, using frequencies as allowed in the schedule. A
certain amount of knowledge, mathematical and otherwise, is required to
ensure radiation in accordance with the licence terms. You do need a licence
to "do those things". PLONKER! Do you have a licence, Spike?
Brian Reay
news:4388a18c$0$11050$1472...@news.sunsite.dk...
> Brian Reay wrote:
>
>> <rest of your trantrum snipped>
>>
>> Go lay down Paul, you'll be stalking around car parks next.
>>
> Please will you enlighten me about this car park and shoe fixation that
> you appear to have. You have mentioned it twice within this topic and I am
> none the wiser.
No problem Steve.
A local (Stan) posted on here that he'd looked for my car in a car park. One
can only guess why he looked for it and why he then posted details in here.
Same local, has commented on my footwear twice. One can only guess why he
looked at my shoes and why he then posted details in here.
Seems most odd behaviour to me but maybe you think it normal.
Stan
news:3urlb8F...@individual.net...
Don't worry Duncan, it's only S.C.U.M. at full throttle.......He has a
peculiar concern regarding me looking at his feet, and vandalising his
pretty little "hairdresser's" sports car. Dear little green MX5........
I do neither....Nor plan to......
Last time we came face to face, he looked in a different direction.
Probably at my feet. Perhaps it's him who has the fixation, Hi Hi.
Whilst no fan of the national society, I don't believe they are all like
S.C.U.M. (Thank goodness....).
73 de Stan.
"S.C.U.M." Seemingly Childish Useless Mentor.
Brian Reay
>> you'll be creeping around car parks next and checking our what shoes
>> people are wearing.
>
> If this is the sort of comment that comes from a prospective RSGB Council
> member and Chairman of the RSGB Development Committee, it's ample evidence
> of the low depths to which amateur radio administration and training has
> now sunk to in the UK.
Well Duncan, maybe if you'd had people take an unnatural interest in your
daughters, cars, and even shoes, you'd understand. I really hope you don't
come to understand.
The real problem is that some, unable to influence the hobby in the way they
like, have resorted to personal vendettas against those who they disagree
with. These vendettas have extended to the sending of porn to children and
children being put in fear of their personal safety. That says more about
those fighting the system than those trying to make it work.
pointyhead
> Glasgow Board of Trade...(now demolished)
Customs house Belfast.
MattD..
2005 17:48, the following appeared on stdout:
> Jeez man. Listen and I'll join the dots for you. This retard can't
> remember his own callsign between overs, this guy is registered thick,
> this guy could not count to twenty even with his socks removed. Are you
> getting the picture?
Could not pour water from a boot with written instructions on the heel?
Couldn't find his own arse without a flight plan and approach vectors
calculated by experts? ;-)
Brian Reay
> Brian Reay wrote:
>
>> Maybe he studied.
>
> Jeez man. Listen and I'll join the dots for you. This retard can't
> remember his own callsign between overs, this guy is registered thick,
> this guy could not count to twenty even with his socks removed. Are you
> getting the picture?
>
So, put your name to these claims. Otherwise you are just a ranting looney.
Actually, it sounds to me like you've just got a beef with this guy you
can't win or, alternately, he passed and you still haven't.
pointyhead
> Could not pour water from a boot with written instructions on the heel?
> Couldn't find his own arse without a flight plan and approach vectors
> calculated by experts? ;-)
Couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo.. :)
Duncan Munro
> "Duncan Munro" <postm...@duncanamps.com> wrote in message
> news:3urlb8F...@individual.net...
> >> Somehow I don't think so. In fact, you seem quite riled. Calm down Matt,
>
>>>you'll be creeping around car parks next and checking our what shoes
>>>people are wearing.
>>
>>If this is the sort of comment that comes from a prospective RSGB Council
>>member and Chairman of the RSGB Development Committee, it's ample evidence
>>of the low depths to which amateur radio administration and training has
>>now sunk to in the UK.
>
>
> Well Duncan, maybe if you'd had people take an unnatural interest in your
> daughters, cars, and even shoes, you'd understand. I really hope you don't
> come to understand.
I appreciate that there have been certain events in recent years and
some of these involving your family. However, I'm not aware of any of
these events being carried out by MattD or ZPK.
For you to suggest they would carry out such actions is deplorable in
any case, and worsened by the fact that you are in a position of some
responsibility within the UK Amateur Radio community.
IMHO I would expect someone in your position to be demonstrating a level
of professionalism and leading by example, but I'm very disappointed
with the bitterness and wild accusations in some of your posts today.
Spike
Jeff wrote:
>>Anyone can 'design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
>>equipment'. No licence is necessary.
>
> Maintaining (and testing your designs) can be a problem if it involves
>actually transmitting.
>
>A licence could be required.
>
Thanks for confirming my original statement was correct.
In the case you mention, the licence could be that of the
station/licence owner, not necessarily that of the specifier,
designer, constructor, maintainer, or modifier (for which no licences
are necessary).
pointyhead
> So, put your name to these claims.
No. Everyone else except you knows who I am and I can assure you if you
have a chat with the DRM, RM or EX president they'll all know who I am.
> Otherwise you are just a ranting looney.
Yeah, like I'm the one changing shoes to avoid being identified.
> Actually, it sounds to me like you've just got a beef with this guy you
> can't win or, alternately, he passed and you still haven't.
Actually I've a beef with the system and a close reading of my original
post will reveal that I'm talking about two clubs - just in case you
think it's personal which I can assure is most definately not the case.
Once again Brain, I hold more than one callsign and not all for the same
country. Neither of them identify me as a lazy assed class B or a fool.
I got my ticket in 1981 and have been an Amateur longer than I haven't.
jim.gm4dhj
> Have a nice stomp Stan, at least I can assure the girls that while your
> are
> venting your anger on here your aren't going to 'visit'.
>
> --
> 73
> Brian, G8OSN
>
>
Don't worry Brian, people never seem to turn up on my doorstep as they have
promised on here...Carols hubby did sit in the car park one Thursday night
on the instructions of small sax.........
Brian Reay
>>
> Don't worry Brian, people never seem to turn up on my doorstep as they
> have promised on here...Carols hubby did sit in the car park one Thursday
> night on the instructions of small sax.........
Tell that to a local called Kurt. Not a mate of mine ever, but him and Stan
were mates.
Personally, I regard Stan was wind and noise- best avoided. Sadly my
children saw another side to him and didn't like it.
jim.gm4dhj
Some drink from the fountain of knowledge; he only gargled..............
Spike
Stan wrote:
>"Spike" <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> wrote
>>
>> <groan>
>>
>> Anyone can 'design, construct, and maintain radio transmitting
>> equipment'. No licence is necessary.
>>
>> It is not a privelege that comes with an Amateur Licence.
>>
>> </groan>
>
>No, but that is something that the Amateur licence allows you to test, ON
>AIR, without being employed by the industry, and having a suitable
>commercial licence to utilise.
>
> And if you happen to be a commercial enterprise, you will not survive long
>if your design is less than acceptable.
>
>You knew dam'n well what I meant.
This is a text based medium. I only know what you wrote. There are
those of thin skin and inflated ego on here who play (for whatever
reason) silly word games - don't join them unless you want to look as
ineffectual as they do.
jim.gm4dhj
> Once again Brain, I hold more than one callsign and not all for the same
> country. Neither of them identify me as a lazy assed class B or a fool. I
> got my ticket in 1981 and have been an Amateur longer than I haven't.
>
> --
> Proud Holder of Old Nick's Deputy First Class Badge
You make Amateur Radio sound like something worthwhile.......which it is not
any more
Spike
tox wrote:
>
>"Nedlar" <S...@Techno.invalid> wrote
>>
>> Could it have been the silly twat who wrote the following...
>>
>
>Tut tut
>
>The foul mouthed Cb'er, once again reveals himself...
>
>tox
I don't think he's a CBer - he acts more like a badly-written script
for a failed Turing machine - or at least he did, as I haven't see his
posts for a long time. Talk about amoebic responses.