It's not just here
Robert Maskill
also the old Adelaide Radio station, I think it says it all really about
the current state of the hobby, changing the prefix on the callsigns and
it could be here in the UK.
The activities of VK5CRS and the group of friends of VIA have suffered
from shrinking numbers due to age and loss of interest.
The South Coast Amateur Radio Club membership pattern has changed due to
the arrival of the much,but wrongly,celebrated
Foundation Licenses.They are hard core CB'ers,who dominate the club's
life now, VK5CRS and it's shortwave potential is not
appreciated anymore and the old crew has disappeared in disgust.
Serious comments welcome
--
Robert Maskill - G4PYR - Peterborough Cambridgeshire
MF Coastal Radio www.coastalradio.org.uk
Orton info community web site www.ortoninfo.co.uk
Nene Valley Railway Pictures www.nvrpics.org.uk/
Micky Savage
"Robert Maskill" <n...@here.noway> wrote in message
news:BqidnWym3bc...@bt.com...
Do something about it then, scream at the R.S.G.B and ofcom.
YOU ALL SEAM TO MOAN ALOT BUT NEVER DO ANYTHING TO FIX IT.
I was lisenting to 2mtrs last night and I was not impressed.
Micky.
Robert Maskill
preservative in the world put on it will not make it a good piece of
wood again!!!
Micky Savage
"Robert Maskill" <n...@here.noway> wrote in message
Needs more than one to shout!!!!!!!!!!!!
Respect Robert
Micky,
Robert Maskill
something then they don't help them learn they just make the subject easier.
There is no incentive in amateur radio to progress and do better.
Making the exam easier has not improved the hobby it has done the
opposite, it has driven those who newcomers could learn from away from
the hobby or into obscure aspects of it where newcomers are not going to
be found anyway.
I listen on the air and mainly I hear inane drivel and very little of
the technical aspects of the hobby. In my experience most newcomers
don't want to learn anyway they just want to talk to their mates only on
different frequencies to the ones they have used previously, they are
not interested nor during what little grounding in the hobby they
receive on a weekends course encouraged to learn about any of the
technical aspects, amateur radio is promoted as an operating only pass
time, and it is far more than that, but the other aspects are not promoted.
Unless we encourage newcomers to increase their knowledge then there
will cease to be a technical aspect, if that happens then it will be a
sorry day for amateur radio.
Micky Savage
<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:37:41 +0100, Robert Maskill <n...@here.noway>
> wrote:
>
>>I have done, but once a piece of wood is rotten often all the
>>preservative in the world put on it will not make it a good piece of
>>wood again!!!
>
>
> Nick.
Hi Nick,
what a shame! and I mean that.
Regards,
Micky
2CA001
> I received the following in an email from VH5HK the owner of VK5CRS and
> also the old Adelaide Radio station, I think it says it all really about
> the current state of the hobby, changing the prefix on the callsigns and
> it could be here in the UK.
>
> The activities of VK5CRS and the group of friends of VIA have suffered
> from shrinking numbers due to age and loss of interest.
> The South Coast Amateur Radio Club membership pattern has changed due to
> the arrival of the much,but wrongly,celebrated
> Foundation Licenses.They are hard core CB'ers,who dominate the club's
> life now, VK5CRS and it's shortwave potential is not
> appreciated anymore and the old crew has disappeared in disgust.
That'll be the 'saviour of amateur radio', just like the FL in the UK!!
2CA001
That pretty much describes most of the FL holders..... pieces of wood,
or more correctly, two short pieces....
owners club@nicksplace.comco The Legend Returns
"Robert Maskill" <n...@here.noway> wrote in message
news:BqidnWym3bc...@bt.com...
> They are hard core CB'ers,who dominate the club's life now, VK5CRS and
> it's shortwave potential is not
> appreciated anymore and the old crew has disappeared in disgust.
Why don't the old crew, simply set up another club and make it a CB free
zone?
tox
Len GM0ONX
>
> - Show quoted text -
The USA has had a similar so called ‘incentive license’ scheme for a
lot longer that us. As a matter of interest is there the same feeling
of dumbing down of the hobby stateside and do they have a similar
problem of ‘Novices’ not bothering to progress as there is little
‘incentive’ to do so.
Len GM0ONX
Len GM0ONX
> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:37:41 +0100, Robert Maskill <n...@here.noway>
> wrote:
>
> >preservative in the world put on it will not make it a good piece of
> >wood again!!!
>
>
> Nick.
Not really Nick, if the soffits in your house were rotten you'd remove
the rotten bit of wood not replace the whole house.
Len GM0ONX
> the rot is has created.
>
> Nick.
I don't think that's going to be an option, Nick. Many countries in
the world are looking at introducing similar licences schemes to the
UK one.
I'd settle for a genuine incentive licence scheme that required M3/M6
licence holders to advance through the different licences towards the
full licence within a certain time. As I’ve said before, it was
described as an incentive scheme but I fail to see what the incentive
is.
Len GM0ONX
Len GM0ONX
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 04:05:28 -0700 (PDT), Len GM0ONX <L...@gm0onx.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >The USA has had a similar so called ‘incentive license’ scheme for a
> >lot longer that us. As a matter of interest is there the same feeling
> >of dumbing down of the hobby stateside and do they have a similar
> >problem of ‘Novices’ not bothering to progress as there is little
> >‘incentive’ to do so.
>
> >Len GM0ONX
>
> compared more closely to our former novice licence.
> They don't have anything comparable with our simpleton grade of
> Foundation licence.
>
> Additionally the American system had genuine incentive, with HF
> frequency, mode and power restrictions in place for the lower licence
> grades.
>
> As for what they think of the mess now, you may want to read some of
> the forums offwww.eham.net
>
> Nick.
I don't suppose you know were I can see a sample Novice paper?
Len GM0ONX
> rest of the world, has been to show them how to make a total balls-up
> of the whole thing and make them determined not to repeat the
> mistakes.
>
> Nick
As Douglas Adams said “Human beings, who are almost unique in having
the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also
remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.”
Robert Maskill
OK I will put it another way.
You have a fence and you need some more fence to fully enclose the
garden but the fence supplier can't import any more because they believe
there is no demand because there are not enough buyers.
So the supplier places adverts promoting the fence as the best thing
since sliced bread the government reduce the tax on the fence to zero
even though it will cut their income. But they can get that income
elsewhere.
You succeed and are now faced with a dilemma because the fence is so
cheap as to now be worthless so you import the cheapest fence you can.
But by pure accident you also import a few decent bits
The result is that the old fence is standing firm and the new fence is
falling apart and pieces when they rot away are being replaced with
equally cheap useless pieces. People see just the new useless cheap
pieces are not impressed with the fence and therefore don't buy it. The
odd bits of decent fence in with the cheap pieces are not noticed as
only the worst is seen not the best
The result is that the importer goes bust because nobody wants the new
fence, the government makes no money from import duty and has to find
the money elsewhere and the old fence is left on it's own and also
neglected.
Cast of players...
Government = Ofcom
Fence supplier = RSGB
New Fence Panels = unknown persons who want something for nothing but
because the value is nothing they don't look after it
Old Fence Panels = Unknown people who worked for what they obtained and
therefore appreciate it's worth.
Spike
Len GM0ONX wrote:
Do you have that as a desk motto?
--
from
Aero Spike
Len GM0ONX
No, I learn from the mistakes of others.
Gordon Hudson
Robert Maskill wrote:
> I received the following in an email from VH5HK the owner of VK5CRS and
> also the old Adelaide Radio station, I think it says it all really about
> the current state of the hobby, changing the prefix on the callsigns and
> it could be here in the UK.
>
> The activities of VK5CRS and the group of friends of VIA have suffered
> from shrinking numbers due to age and loss of interest.
> The South Coast Amateur Radio Club membership pattern has changed due to
> the arrival of the much,but wrongly,celebrated
> Foundation Licenses.They are hard core CB'ers,who dominate the club's
> life now, VK5CRS and it's shortwave potential is not
> appreciated anymore and the old crew has disappeared in disgust.
>
> Serious comments welcome
Its interesting.
My son went on 27MHz the other night and was speaking to a few people
and most of them had amateur radio licences of some sort as well, and
they were trying to persuade him to take the MM3 course.
Quite different to the guys who left CB in the early 80's, they
generally didnt return to 27MHz, but that might be because all their
friends at the time got amateur licences.
Len GM0ONX
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 06:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Len GM0ONX <L...@gm0onx.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>> The one - possibly the only - good thing the UK's FL has done for the
>>> rest of the world, has been to show them how to make a total balls
>
> 'Guess who', should be along RSN to explain why we've all got it wrong
> and why the FL is the best thing since sliced bread.
>
> Nick.
I found a couple of question bank questions for the Technicians paper.
It would catch out a number of the borderline FL passes but IMO its not
as hard as the intermediate.
Len GM0ONX
RSGB Watcher
"The Legend Returns" <trabant owners club@Nicks place.comco> wrote in
message news:t1mGk.34913$qg2....@newsfe30.ams2...
They are too lazy to do that.
72
Dave.
NikTheGeek
>
> There is no incentive in amateur radio to progress and do better.
>
> Making the exam easier has not improved the hobby it has done the
> opposite, it has driven those who newcomers could learn from away from
> the hobby or into obscure aspects of it where newcomers are not going to
> be found anyway.
A G perspective:
The hobby was dying, numbers were low. With the continued decline, the
VHF and up spectrum could have been lost. So something needed to be
done. However, standards are appalling and those with the desire and
technical knowledge end up getting tarred with the same brush as the
CB'er types that some people in here bemoan.
So if it were left to me (which it isn't, but Brian etc take note):
1. Have an M3/M6 class. With no entry requirements at all? But limit
them to 10w on 2m and 70cms only - to get a taster. And only for 1 year.
2. An exam to progress on to 6m and say 1 HF band and 2m/70cms at 50w.
3. A quite hard exam to open the rest of HF and microwaves and full power.
4. Bring back the morse test and make use of the morse segments of bands
illegal without it. Gives a further incentive for progressing. It
wouldn't be needed, but without it you don't have the full pack of
quals. And keeps the G3's happy! :)
What do you think RSGB??
Nick
--
My:d1Ck.isbig:eno.ugh%w1th0ut.y0U/spaMMErs.trY1ng:to.sEll%me-p1LLs!
Road_Hog
"NikTheGeek" <NikTh...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1vrGk.67757$E41....@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> A G perspective:
>
> The hobby was dying, numbers were low. With the continued decline, the VHF
> and up spectrum could have been lost. So something needed to be done. >
>
> Nick
There are two problems with your solution.
A large proportion of the posters (certainly the vocal ones here) can't
accept that the hobby was/is dying. If you are in denial about the problem,
then no solution is required.
Secondly, they want it back, as it was, they don't even want the old Novice
licence. They will not accept any other "solution" or compromise.
They're stuck in the '60s and '70s, want valve radios back, component shops
in the local town, being able to make homebrew gear that is cheaper/better
quality than mass produced stuff (rose tinted glasses).
But most of all they actually like to moan, and it gives them a collective
agenda in which to do that.
In a perverse way, I hope they get want they want, which is the way it was,
with dwindling numbers, few new entrants in to the hobby and eventually when
virtually everybody is silent key in 30 or 40 years, they'll wonder what
happened (dinosaurs).
RH
PS apologies for posting vaguely on topic, normal antagonistic posting will
be resumed shortly.
Jim.gm4dhj ...
> PS apologies for posting vaguely on topic, normal antagonistic posting
> will
> be resumed shortly.
>
>
>
good man... I was getting worried ......
Brian Reay
news:gcdhov$20e4$1...@energise.enta.net...
>
> In a perverse way, I hope they get want they want, which is the way it
> was, with dwindling numbers, few new entrants in to the hobby and
> eventually when virtually everybody is silent key in 30 or 40 years,
> they'll wonder what happened (dinosaurs).
>
And, were that to happen, they would still blame it on someone else. That is
the way of the such people.
On the other hand, I'm driven by a wish to ensure that the hobby continues
to thrive long after I'm gone.
--
73
Brian, G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
Jim.gm4dhj ...
> On the other hand, I'm driven by a wish to ensure that the hobby continues
> to thrive long after I'm gone.
>
The only snag is all the aged MM3/2MOs will pop off at the same time
....pity they wasted 30 years pirating .......
2CA001
> "NikTheGeek" <NikTh...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1vrGk.67757$E41....@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> A G perspective:
>>
>> The hobby was dying, numbers were low. With the continued decline, the VHF
>> and up spectrum could have been lost. So something needed to be done. >
>> What do you think RSGB??
>>
>> Nick
>
> There are two problems with your solution.
>
> A large proportion of the posters (certainly the vocal ones here) can't
> accept that the hobby was/is dying. If you are in denial about the problem,
> then no solution is required.
Where is the evidence of this? The information on the IARU website (up
until it was last updated) shows numbers were rising year on year. OK,
RSGB membership numbers may have been falling but that is no reason to
destroy amateur radio in the manner they have.
2CA001
You can obtain the full ARRL question pools from here
http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/pools.html
As Nick said, there used to be a true incentive with the US 5-level
system (6-level if you differentiated between code and no-code techs).
There were different power privileges, frequency privileges, and the
opportunity to get a shorter callsign as you progressed. The first
brick out of the wall was dropping the 13wpm and 20wpm Morse tests,
leaving just the 5wpm. Then they did away with the Novice and Advanced
class tests (I always thought the Advanced was more difficult than the
Extra, though the Extra needed 20wpm whereas the Advanced needed 13wpm
Morse). Finally, they did away with the Morse test completely. Dumbing
down? Absolutely!
73 from a 20wpm Extra!
Road_Hog
"2CA001" <cla...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Road_Hog wrote:
>> A large proportion of the posters (certainly the vocal ones here) can't
>> accept that the hobby was/is dying. If you are in denial about the
>> problem,
>> then no solution is required.
>
> Where is the evidence of this? The information on the IARU website (up
> until it was last updated) shows numbers were rising year on year. OK,
> RSGB membership numbers may have been falling but that is no reason to
> destroy amateur radio in the manner they have.
QED.
I rest my case.
Road_Hog
>73 from a 20wpm Extra!
I do hope that you have a sew on badge to put on the tweed jacket for that.
Len GM0ONX
> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:26:08 +0100, Len GM0ONX
> <gm0...@gooooooglemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> I found a couple of question bank questions for the Technicians paper.
>> It would catch out a number of the borderline FL passes but IMO its not
>> as hard as the intermediate.
>>
>> Len GM0ONX
>
> Technician grade of licence exam, never was that great. Of course
> when there were five grades of licence, it was bound to be that way.
>
> Did you try any of the on-line "exams"?
>
> Nick.
Not yet but I will do.
2CA001
So, you don't have any evidence that "the hobby was/is dying"? QED indeed!
2CA001
Don't have a tweed jacket, but I do have an anorak* :)
* a Sprayway Goretex XCR anorak!!
NikTheGeek
No, that was me that said that. With no actual evidence I admit, other
than continually being told.
Anyway, it doesn't matter, its all historical now. What matters is the
current situation. Numbers are (hopefully) up, but arguably standards
are down. You can't blame an individual (say a newly licenced M6) as
they only have one route in to the hobby and get no end of flack. And
I'm sure it is the flack they get that puts most people off. You could
have a doctorate in RF engineering but still have to take the basic
licence first.
So if there was more progression allowed for more and more privilages,
that will give those that want a technical hobby just that. Others that
are happy with the minimum can stay and just use it at their level.
Everyone wins!
And as for the RSGB (and here is where I am going to be hypocritical as
I'm not a member*), everyone in theory should be a member to give them
more power to fight for the future of amateur radio. Also, with more and
more members (say the regulars in here all joining up) they will have to
listen to their membership. Fight it from the inside, not the outside!
Nick
(*I'm not a member as it is only a pastime for me, my main hobby is
powerboats/waterskiing where I am a member of the various bodies)
Spike
Road_Hog wrote:
>
>"NikTheGeek" <NikTh...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:1vrGk.67757$E41....@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> A G perspective:
>>
>> The hobby was dying, numbers were low. With the continued decline, the VHF
>> and up spectrum could have been lost. So something needed to be done. >
>> What do you think RSGB??
>>
>> Nick
>
>There are two problems with your solution.
>
>A large proportion of the posters (certainly the vocal ones here) can't
>accept that the hobby was/is dying. If you are in denial about the problem,
>then no solution is required.
That statement requires that there was a problem in the first place
that was sufficient in scale to need addressing, and you have not
proved that or even mentioned any evidence.
>Secondly, they want it back, as it was, they don't even want the old Novice
>licence. They will not accept any other "solution" or compromise.
Solution to what? A problem you have invented?
Rest snipped.
--
from
Aero Spike
z...@class-a-licensee-12wpm.ie
wrote:
>Foundation Licenses.They are hard core CB'ers,who dominate the club's
>life now, VK5CRS and it's shortwave potential is not
>appreciated anymore and the old crew has disappeared in disgust.
i recall telling those on an australian newsgroup, that multiband cb
was on the way to them too.
needless to say the usual bunch poo-poo'ed my post.
another who posts on here was similar in his predictions.
After all, wasnt it the Australians who leaked the news that the 2E
licence was about to be deleted due to lack of applicants ?
If Australia knows so much abut the internals of the GB system then it
wasnt a surprise that they'd be convinced(!) into taking the
Foundation stuff too.
I recall the ''argument for'' being published.
Written by two gentlemen who predicted the downward trend of amateurs
unless something was done...
Well,, something was done !!!
z...@class-a-licensee-12wpm.ie
owners club@Nicks place.comco> wrote:
>Why don't the old crew, simply set up another club and make it a CB free
>zone?
oh i see... simply abandon the club that they have been part of for
years and leave it to the cb'ers instead ?
oh very clever Tox.
z...@class-a-licensee-12wpm.ie
<gordonh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>My son went on 27MHz the other night and was speaking to a few people
>and most of them had amateur radio licences of some sort as well, and
>they were trying to persuade him to take the MM3 course.
that'll be the QUALITY PROGRESSIVE LICENCSING SYSTEM then.
>Quite different to the guys who left CB in the early 80's, they
>generally didnt return to 27MHz, but that might be because all their
>friends at the time got amateur licences.
if it is then they upgraded themselves and kept going in the one
direction....
unlike many nowadays who flit between 27.555 and 145.500
with the flick of a mouse button.
owners club@nicksplace.comco The Legend Returns
Purchased at your local Dollar store, no doubt...
tox
2CA001
> "2CA001" <cla...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:xumdnejZBrmK5HfV...@comcast.com...
>> Road_Hog wrote:
>>> "2CA001" <cla...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:xumdne_ZBrma6HfV...@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>> 73 from a 20wpm Extra!
>>> I do hope that you have a sew on badge to put on the tweed jacket for
>>> that.
>> Don't have a tweed jacket, but I do have an anorak* :)
>>
>> * a Sprayway Goretex XCR anorak!!
>
> Purchased at your local Dollar store, no doubt...
No, that's what a pikey market trader would do..... mine was bought in a
little independent shop in Yorkshire that specialises in hiking equipment.
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI
Yeah, so what did YOU pay, and what did the 'pikey market trader' pay?
--
;-)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
http://turner-smith.co.uk
2CA001
> "2CA001" <cla...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:xumdneXZBrnnCnfV...@comcast.com...
>> The Legend Returns wrote:
>>> "2CA001" <cla...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:xumdnejZBrmK5HfV...@comcast.com...
>>>> Road_Hog wrote:
>>>>> "2CA001" <cla...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:xumdne_ZBrma6HfV...@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 from a 20wpm Extra!
>>>>> I do hope that you have a sew on badge to put on the tweed jacket for
>>>>> that.
>>>> Don't have a tweed jacket, but I do have an anorak* :)
>>>>
>>>> * a Sprayway Goretex XCR anorak!!
>>> Purchased at your local Dollar store, no doubt...
>> No, that's what a pikey market trader would do..... mine was bought in a
>> little independent shop in Yorkshire that specialises in hiking equipment.
> .
> Yeah, so what did YOU pay, and what did the 'pikey market trader' pay?
I 'paid' for the advice of the staff who actually use the equipment they
sell. I've bought a lot of stuff from them and their advice as always
been spot on. Plus, if anything ever went wrong with it I knew I could
return it without any drama. Call that 'paying' for peace of mind if
you like.
1LVN
<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:13:16 GMT, NikTheGeek
> <NikTh...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> It was supposed to grow the numbers of FULL licences. It was their
> decline which was quoted as evidence the hobby was dying.
>
> Introducing a new licence type for a different type of hobby, achieves
> nothing.
> You may just as well have announced that all CB licences were to be
> counted as amateur licences.
>
You don't need figures to tell you, just take a listen on the bands.
Dead Paul
> I received the following in an email from VH5HK the owner of VK5CRS and
> also the old Adelaide Radio station, I think it says it all really about
> the current state of the hobby, changing the prefix on the callsigns and
> it could be here in the UK.
>
> The activities of VK5CRS and the group of friends of VIA have suffered
> from shrinking numbers due to age and loss of interest. The South Coast
> Amateur Radio Club membership pattern has changed due to the arrival of
> the much,but wrongly,celebrated Foundation Licenses.They are hard core
> CB'ers,who dominate the club's life now, VK5CRS and it's shortwave
> potential is not appreciated anymore and the old crew has disappeared in
> disgust.
>
> Serious comments welcome
So fscking what!
So the elite will eventually be gone.
The cb'ers will themselves have their own elite to take the place of
earlier radio-hams proper and prospective radio-hams proper who don't
care for the lower tone at the top of the hobby will just take up another
hobby. Nothing is for ever - not even the new ham radio hobby.
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<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:26:08 +0100, Len GM0ONX
>
>
I did, Me Lord and my prize was a Cobra 148 GTL and a Maycom EM27...
tox
Micky Savage
"Walt Davidson" <g3...@despammed.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:52:29 +0100, "1LVN" <gareth...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Introducing a new licence type for a different type of hobby, achieves
>>> nothing.
>>> You may just as well have announced that all CB licences were to be
>>> counted as amateur licences.
>>>
>>You don't need figures to tell you, just take a listen on the bands.
>
> licences are now counted as amateur licences.
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
> --
> Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
Welcome Walt
See we can have a conversation, ( God hope I spelt conversation properly,
it is hard living on a council estste. eststte estate, nice one that's it) I
want the old exam back
MICKY.
Jim.gm4dhj ...
>
> See we can have a conversation, ( God hope I spelt conversation
> properly, it is hard living on a council estste. eststte estate, nice one
> that's it) I want the old exam back
>
> MICKY.
>
good man .....
Dai Agnostic
> Send me my share and you can keep the Maycom.
>
> Nick.
Make sure that you get your share of the proceeds from the sale of the
company car:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320308007360
owners club@nicksplace.comco The Legend Returns
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>
> Send me my share and you can keep the Maycom.
The Maycom, can be very easily opened up, with a couple of blobs of solder,
IIRC.
tox
Micky Savage
"Jim.gm4dhj ..." <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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spelt right. ? LOL
MORSE THE LOT JUST HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wHAT DO YOU WANT BLOOD?
2MTRS AT THE MINUTE IS not what I remember it. I am going to get killed for
this but the new shit has killed ham radio. this is from a die hard cber.
let the abuse begin.
sorry cbers. I want to be free of all the music and shit. I want to be like
my Brother GI8WAZ.
Come on Nick make it happen.
I will take the shit bring it on. I will not use anymore foul language .
what ever
bring it on
mick.
owners club@nicksplace.comco The Legend Returns
<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:28:21 -0500, Dai Agnostic <m...@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Make sure that you get your share of the proceeds from the sale of the
>>company car:
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320308007360
>
>
> Tox! Is there something you want to tell me?
<shrug>
It was a slightly better year than I first declared to you...
tox
Jim.gm4dhj ...
> Jim and all of you I want it back . I will have a C&G full licence. is
> that
> spelt right. ? LOL
>
> MORSE THE LOT JUST HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wHAT DO YOU WANT BLOOD?
> 2MTRS AT THE MINUTE IS not what I remember it. I am going to get killed
> for this but the new shit has killed ham radio. this is from a die hard
> cber.
>
>
>
Good man...I knew you would come around to our way of thiking
............................
>
> sorry cbers. I want to be free of all the music and shit. I want to be
> like my Brother GI8WAZ.
>
no you don't ........
Jim.gm4dhj ...
>
>
> The Cobra can be very easily opened up, with a tank brimming with
> petrol and a clear road.
>
> Nick.
>
>
Shelby ? .......
Steve Terry
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> "NikTheGeek" <NikTh...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> A G perspective:
>> The hobby was dying, numbers were low. With the continued decline, the
>> VHF and up spectrum could have been lost. So something needed to be done.
>> > What do you think RSGB??
>> Nick
>
> There are two problems with your solution.
> A large proportion of the posters (certainly the vocal ones here) can't
> accept that the hobby was/is dying. If you are in denial about the
> problem, then no solution is required.
>
>
What you mean is you are not interested in the statistic that in the early
1970's
there were only around 30,000 UK Radio Amateurs.
Far less than the numbers before the FL was introduce
No one said in the 1970s that Amateur radio was dying
Only thing that died since then were standards
Steve Terry
Jim.gm4dhj ...
> there were only around 30,000 UK Radio Amateurs.
> Far less than the numbers before the FL was introduce
>
> No one said in the 1970s that Amateur radio was dying
>
> Only thing that died since then were standards
>
> Steve Terry
>
spot on .....
2CA001
You're right, you're not wrong!
Steve Terry
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> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:14:14 -0700 (PDT), Len GM0ONX <L...@gm0onx.co.uk>
> wrote:
<snip>
> The latest reports on the FCC and ARRL websites suggest that America
> has no plans whatsoever for an FL equiv.
>
> The one - possibly the only - good thing the UK's FL has done for the
> rest of the world, has been to show them how to make a total balls-up
> of the whole thing and make them determined not to repeat the
> mistakes.
> Nick
>
>
We are world leaders in how not to do just about anything
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 06:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Len GM0ONX <L...@gm0onx.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>As Douglas Adams said "Human beings, who are almost unique in having
>>the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also
>>remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."
>
> 6 x 9 = 42.
> Nick.
6 x 9 = 54
Don't Panic
Steve Terry
Brian Morrison
>>> As Douglas Adams said "Human beings, who are almost unique in having
>>> the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also
>>> remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."
>> 6 x 9 = 42.
>
> 6 x 9 = 54
>
> Don't Panic
"I told you there was something fundamentally wrong with this universe"
--
Brian