yaesu ft-847 cat control
2m0-sil
can anyone recommend a cable db9 to usb null modem.
cant seem to find one?
Brian Reay.
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> im having problems connecting the 847 to my netbook.
> can anyone recommend a cable db9 to usb null modem.
> cant seem to find one?
I assume you mean a USB to RS232 adaptor which has a DB9 connector. I also
assume you've already got a RS232 to CAT converter for the 847? (I think the
847 users the standard Yaesu round CAT connector).
If the the above is correct, there are loads of cheapies on Ebay for a few
£ but I'd recommend paying a bit extra and going to G4ZLP- a Google will
find his website.
Also, rather than end up with a "daisy chain" of USB>RS232>CAT why not
buy a USB>CAT converter. Price will be about the same and the set up much
neater. I'm pretty sure G4ZLP does those as well.
The issue with the cheapies can be driver support. The cheapie manufacturers
don't always follower the recommendations of the chip manufacturers and the
standard drivers don't always work.
--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.net
2m0-sil
> "2m0-sil" <jonc...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
thanks brian,
its a bit of a nightmare, yes i do want to keep it as neat as possible
with as few connections needed.
will go over it all again and see whats best but agree a driverless
solution would be best.
its to run ham radio deluxe.
Brian Reay.
>thanks brian,
>its a bit of a nightmare, yes i do want to keep it as neat as possible
>with as few connections needed.
>will go over it all again and see whats best but agree a driverless
>solution would be best.
>its to run ham radio deluxe.
You will need a driver, the question is finding one that works with your
operating system. What tends to happen at the cheapie end of the market is
that the manufacturers produce a driver for the operating system current at
the time they designed the interface. It may work with later operating
systems but if it doesn't, they don't update it. This happens even if
they've used one of the "big name" chips from a company which has updated
its drivers but the interface manufacturer hasn't followed the
recommendations etc. This is one reason I like G4ZLP- he recognises the
problem and ensures drivers are available on his website. He isn't the
cheapest but the quality and service are good.
I've got some cheapie interfaces as well, it is just a bit of a gamble.
2m0-sil
> "2m0-sil" <jonc...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
hi brian,
just spotted a serial to usb adaptor on ebay that should do the trick--
it seems to have a better spec than the on i was using--which i dont
think was working properly anyway.
i did check out G4ZLP,s site and his prices are not too bad but would
have to daisy-chain cables and im not too keen on that.
but thanks again for the information provided brian.
Yeti
The troublt with the 847 is that it's a null modem cable it requires.
Of course, the proper solution is to use a real computer, instead of a
netbook. Then you'd have a real serial port, and wouldn't have to spend
forever trying to find a USB to serial adaptor that actually works.
Iain Young, G7III
> "2m0-sil"<jon...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:f2516f9d-e6fd-42e3...@i17g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
>> im having problems connecting the 847 to my netbook.
>> can anyone recommend a cable db9 to usb null modem.
>> cant seem to find one?
>
> I assume you mean a USB to RS232 adaptor which has a DB9 connector. I also
> assume you've already got a RS232 to CAT converter for the 847? (I think the
> 847 users the standard Yaesu round CAT connector).
Nope, the 847 is the redheaded step-child of all rigs when it comes
to CAT. It has a standard RS232 port for CAT. No level converters
needed
It's actually a 3 wire serial port, so you need to make sure stuff
like hardware flow control is off.
2M0SIL, I would suggest a 9pin-9pin RS232 Null MODEM cable, and then
into your RS232-USB converter (most USB-RS232 converters are wired
as DTE rather than DCE)
73s
Iain
PS, remember...two Null MODEM devices (cable *OR* box *OR* USB<->RS232
wired that way) make a MODEM (ie straight through) cable...A trick I've
used many a time
Iain Young, G7III
> It's surprising how many "real" computers these days do NOT have an
> RS232 port. This is a most undesirable development, because - as you
> say - USB to serial adapters rarely work properly, nor do they usually
> support all the RS232 lines.
I must confess I've always been pretty lucky with all the RS232<->USB
converters I've used, all have supported all lines, and not just been
a 3-wire serial port
Then again, I've often been after 4 or even 8 ports, so they are not
shall we say the cheapest available.
However, if you have a free PCI slot there is always something like
this: http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11850
Ignore the fact it's a linux shop, it's essentially 6 *real* RS232 ports
on a PCI card, with 16550 UARTs, it'll work on pretty much any O/S
AIUI
73s
Iain
mm0fmf
> On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:24:01 +0000, Yeti <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
>
>> Of course, the proper solution is to use a real computer, instead of a
>> netbook. Then you'd have a real serial port, and wouldn't have to spend
>> forever trying to find a USB to serial adaptor that actually works.
>
> RS232 port. This is a most undesirable development, because - as you
> say - USB to serial adapters rarely work properly, nor do they usually
> support all the RS232 lines.
>
>
Never had a problem with FTDI's USB<>RS232 devices or drivers. But as
they're Scottish and not Chinese it's hardly surprising their stuff
works. ;-)
Iain Young, G7III
> Never had a problem with FTDI's USB<>RS232 devices or drivers. But as
> they're Scottish and not Chinese it's hardly surprising their stuff
> works. ;-)
Indeed :)
---BEGIN QUOTED lsusb OUTPUT---
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0403:6010 Future Technology Devices Interna
tional, Ltd FT2232C Dual USB-UART/FIFO IC
---END QUOTED lsusb OUTPUT---
The PL2303 from Prolific Technology has also served me well (I
have the 4 port version, but they do 1 and 2 as well as 8 and 16
port versions as well)
--- BEGIN QUOTED lsusb OUTPUT---
Bus 001 Device 009: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial
Port
Bus 001 Device 008: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial
Port
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial
Port
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial
Port
---END QUOTED lsusb OUTPUT---
And I can confirm one of the PL2303's is keying a transmitter via
DTR for my personal 23cms F3B beacon
73s
Iain
mm0fmf
From experience, I wouldn't deal with G4ZLP. IMHO, a dodgy character.
Yeti
> On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:24:01 +0000, Yeti<ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
>
>> netbook. Then you'd have a real serial port, and wouldn't have to spend
>> forever trying to find a USB to serial adaptor that actually works.
>
> RS232 port. This is a most undesirable development, because - as you
> say - USB to serial adapters rarely work properly, nor do they usually
> support all the RS232 lines.
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
Nothing a 2 port serial PCI card can't fix.
Brian Reay
"Iain Young, G7III" <g7...@g7iii.net> wrote in message
news:ig2rpq$av7$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 05/01/11 21:02, Brian Reay. wrote:
>> "2m0-sil"<jon...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:f2516f9d-e6fd-42e3...@i17g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
>>> im having problems connecting the 847 to my netbook.
>>> can anyone recommend a cable db9 to usb null modem.
>>> cant seem to find one?
>>
>> I assume you mean a USB to RS232 adaptor which has a DB9 connector. I
>> also
>> assume you've already got a RS232 to CAT converter for the 847? (I think
>> the
>> 847 users the standard Yaesu round CAT connector).
>
> Nope, the 847 is the redheaded step-child of all rigs when it comes
> to CAT. It has a standard RS232 port for CAT. No level converters
> needed
Oh, a useful thing to know. Thank you.
M0WWS
>thanks brian,
>its a bit of a nightmare, yes i do want to keep it as neat as possible
>with as few connections needed.
>will go over it all again and see whats best but agree a driverless
>solution would be best.
>its to run ham radio deluxe.
What OS does your netbook run? Check with the manufacturer of the CAT to USB
converter first to see if they supply a USB driver for that particular
operating system. Some of the cheaper netbooks run windows CE which is a bit
long in the tooth so developers don't bother with it.
M0WWS
On Jan 5, 9:20 pm, "Brian Reay." <seewebsite...@ild.com> wrote:
> "2m0-sil" <jonc...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7c482ca9-dee5-43ec...@s9g2000vby.googlegroups.com...
> >thanks brian,
>just spotted a serial to usb adaptor on ebay that should do the trick--
>it seems to have a better spec than the on i was using--which i dont
>think was working properly anyway.
>i did check out G4ZLP,s site and his prices are not too bad but would
>have to daisy-chain cables and im not too keen on that.
check with the seller that the deal includes driver software for the
operating system of your network. - thats probably why your current one
isn't working.
gareth
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> On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:46:04 +0000, mm0fmf <no...@mailinator.com>
> wrote:
>>Never had a problem with FTDI's USB<>RS232 devices or drivers. But as
>>they're Scottish and not Chinese it's hardly surprising their stuff
>>works. ;-)
>
>
A chip supplier, tending to specialise in communications interfaces.
Used them myself for IEEE488, SPI, and I2C (professionally not
Ham Radio)
gareth
Hypocrisy?
Hoist by your own petard.
"M0WWS" <gareth...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Iain Young, G7III
> What is FTDI ?
Future Technology Devices International, Ltd
73s
Iain
Yeti
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 00:38:40 +0000, Yeti<ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
>
>> Nothing a 2 port serial PCI card can't fix.
>
> even have that!
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
Then it's not a PC.
A PC needs PCI and PCI-Express slots.
Anything less is just a Netbook in drag.
Len GM0ONX
I have no problems with the Prolific chipset units and have two usb to
serial converters plus a USB to CAT interface for the FT857 (also
Prolific chipset)and two standard serial ports used for the FT1000MP CAT
interface and computer controlled rotator all running at the same time.
And yes they are all Chinese not Scottish!
Len GM0ONX
gareth
news:ig4bpr$jgl$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> I have no problems with the Prolific chipset units and have two usb to
> serial converters plus a USB to CAT interface for the FT857 (also Prolific
> chipset)and two standard serial ports used for the FT1000MP CAT interface
> and computer controlled rotator all running at the same time. And yes they
> are all Chinese not Scottish!
Surely after your recent blurting out of silly childish remarks (as is your
wont)
directed to me about homebrew, you don't go out and buy things as
simple as cables off the shelf?
Sheesh!
Talk about the hypocrisy of the representatives of the RSCB who
post into this NG!
Catweazel
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:36:46 +0000, "Iain Young, G7III"
>
> <g7...@g7iii.net> wrote:
> >> What is FTDI ?
>
> >Future Technology Devices International, Ltd
>
> >Seehttp://www.ftdichip.com/
>
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
and these babies work very well to interface my usb-output laptop to
my ic706 & 735 (simple tx/ rx control) for hamscope, mmsstv & such
like).
http://www.usbnow.co.uk/p47/USB_2.0_to_RS232_Adaptor_+_1M_Cable/product_info.html
- -
Yeti
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:49:51 +0000, Yeti<ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
>
>>> That's assuming the PC has a spare PCI slot! Some "modern" PCs don't
>>> even have that!
>>>
>>
>>
>> A PC needs PCI and PCI-Express slots.
>>
>> Anything less is just a Netbook in drag.
>
> typically have fewer and fewer PCI slots ... and often those that they
> do have are already populated when you buy the PC.
>
> In the "good old days", I would never buy a motherboard with less than
> six PCI slots.
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
Hence why I build my own.
gareth
news:ig4hve$4o7$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
Claiming to be building your own motherboards will bring
Mrs.Confabulation down on your shoulders!
Yeti
I meant build my own PCs, that way I get to choose how many PCI slots
and what's in them.
MM6-JBN
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:17:42 +0000, Len GM0ONX> Ah yes ... the bog-standard, off-the-shelf "rig" of the FL-holder.
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
> --
> Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
one of the best radios on the market for price . more people bought
these radios and hold on to them ,than anyonther kind , what does that
tell you about them
Vince
<g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>In the "good old days", I would never buy a motherboard with less than
>six PCI slots.
In the "good old days", I would never buy a motherboard with less than
six ISA slots.
gareth
news:4d25e657...@news.albasani.net...
In the good old days, the slots on the Unibus and Omnibus WERE the
motherboard!
Jim gm4dhj ...
"Walt Davidson" <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 07:13:38 -0800 (PST), MM6-JBN <jbre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>one of the best radios on the market for price . more people bought
>>these radios and hold on to them ,than anyonther kind , what does that
>>tell you about them
>
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
a big digital box with ple nty to fiddle with that would appeal to
freebanders...yaesu weren't stoopid ......now an FT1000 was quality ......
Len GM0ONX
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:17:42 +0000, Len GM0ONX
> <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
Nah FT-2000 Shirley!
Yeti
Overrated and over priced, like most other new rigs these days.
Find a good used FT990 or TS950, spend the difference on a good aerial
setup, and your money would go further (literally).
Yeti
LOL!
I've still got a few ISA cards here.
MM6-JBN
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 07:13:38 -0800 (PST), MM6-JBN <jbree...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >one of the best radios on the market for price . more people bought
> >these radios and hold on to them ,than anyonther kind , what does that
> >tell you about them
>
>
theirs is a lot of spec for your spend , i wouldnt mind a got at one
always been one of those radios a looked at in a book and thought i
would like that , saw it back in the late 90's with matching psu,atu ,
md100 and rotater in a PW mag , and loved it even since if looks
could kill . and its a pretty good recever too
MM6-JBN
>
> - Show quoted text -
a would have a ft1000d,1000mp or 1000hp mk5 field over your pair . any
day , in fact a would prob take an ft847 before them pair . lol
2m0-sil
>
> - Show quoted text -
thanks to all who replied to my question--mostly.
some good information to digest--will let you all know how i get on.
thanks.
MM6-JBN
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yeti
Either of those two will blow holes in an 847, perform as near as dammit
on a par with the FT1000, and you can get one of each for the same money
you'd pay for an FT1000.
Like I said, spend the diff on a good aerial and you won't regret it.
Jim gm4dhj ...
> Like I said, spend the diff on a good aerial and you won't regret it.
you mean one like yours tee hee ......
MM6-JBN
wrote:
> > Like I said, spend the diff on a good aerial and you won't regret it.
>
> you mean one like yours tee hee ......
CP-6 FROM DIAMOND you wont go wrong
Jim gm4dhj ...
"MM6-JBN" <jbre...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I think you can .....
Yeti
>> Like I said, spend the diff on a good aerial and you won't regret it.
>
> you mean one like yours tee hee ......
>
>
Does the job like no linear ever could.
Steve Terry
On Jan 6, 2:45 pm, Walt Davidson <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:17:42 +0000, Len GM0ONX
> <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote:
>> >The FT1000MP is the same.
>>
>> Ah yes ... the bog-standard, off-the-shelf "rig" of the FL-holder.
>> 73 de G3NYY
>
>these radios and hold on to them ,than anyonther kind , what does that
>tell you about them
>
>
Ham International jumbos
Steve Terry
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Yaesu as big as it is
MM6-JBN
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:45:49 +0000, Walt Davidson
>
> <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>The FT1000MP is the same.
>
> >Ah yes ... the bog-standard, off-the-shelf "rig" of the FL-holder.
>
> >73 de G3NYY
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/38pag7q
>
> Nick - Yes, brethren. I've returned already.
> --
> If you can't find a lawyer who knows the law,
> find one who knows the judge.
great radio
Steve Terry
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> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:45:49 +0000, Walt Davidson
> <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>The FT1000MP is the same.
>>
>>Ah yes ... the bog-standard, off-the-shelf "rig" of the FL-holder.
>>73 de G3NYY
>
> Indeed. Though this one remains the most suitable 'rig' for FLs.
> http://tinyurl.com/38pag7q
>
>
PA caps having poor thermal coefficient, going out of spec when hot.
http://odinn.org/radio/CB/LCL_2740
You don't want to give them something that's not going to knock out
their neighbours Corri