The demise of the moderated groups

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A. non Eyemouse

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Aug 3, 2022, 9:12:42 AM8/3/22
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RSGBtech shows a month-on-month decline of postings, with users
preferring to start their own "specialist" groups. Stats at
https://ibb.co/GtRrNn1

Meanwhile, over in uk.radio.amateur.moderated - the one that the
minority campaigned so hard for - three months with no meaningful
content apart from the moderation policy, one follow-up to an existing
thread in July. I can't see my screen for the tumbleweed. This month,
Les asks "Is it worth keeping this NG open?"

Time to bring on the RFD?

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Where Morse meets House.

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 3, 2022, 9:39:39 AM8/3/22
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funny how a headcase like cole got involved in it.......

Brian

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Aug 3, 2022, 12:22:27 PM8/3/22
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This group is almost entirely full of the obsessive / abusive rantings of
the Usual Rejects. Even when someone asks for help with a technical
question, they wade in.

As for “specialist groups”, I posted well over a decade ago specialist
moderated groups, with even handed moderators, were flourishing and would
continue to do so. RSGBTech being a prime example.

Meanwhile, the Usual Rejects are still bouncing off the walls of their self
made padded cells- providing entertainment as village fools once did.

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 3, 2022, 12:40:12 PM8/3/22
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it was nothing

Rambo

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Aug 3, 2022, 5:38:24 PM8/3/22
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Just a failed attempt at censoring the opinoins of people certain
people didn't agree with. Take RSGBtech as another examole of the
same.

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 4, 2022, 1:51:20 AM8/4/22
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> people didn't agree with. Take RSGBtech as another example of the
> same.

very true moderation kills discussion....

Spike

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Aug 4, 2022, 3:51:16 AM8/4/22
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On 03/08/2022 13:12, A. non Eyemouse wrote:

> RSGBtech shows a month-on-month decline of postings, with users
> preferring to start their own "specialist" groups. Stats at
> https://ibb.co/GtRrNn1

> Meanwhile, over in uk.radio.amateur.moderated - the one that the
> minority campaigned so hard for - three months with no meaningful
> content apart from the moderation policy, one follow-up to an existing
> thread in July. I can't see my screen for the tumbleweed. This month,
> Les asks "Is it worth keeping this NG open?"

Much the same as its bastard sister, the moderated cycling group, which
has had two posts so far this year.

Interesting how two such groups, formed in the same manner with sock
armies, have gone the same way. Surely a case of 'be careful for what
you wish...'

> Time to bring on the RFD?

Do you think that American Schmuck who interfered last time might be
persuaded to stick his oar in again?


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A. non Eyemouse

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Aug 4, 2022, 6:33:44 AM8/4/22
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On 03/08/2022 17:22, Brian wrote:

> As for “specialist groups”, I posted well over a decade ago specialist
> moderated groups, with even handed moderators, were flourishing and would
> continue to do so. RSGBTech being a prime example.
>

It's all in the stats. That and other people having a different opinion
on what counts as "even handed".

Nice to see so many people know what a resin joint is though, perhaps
some posters have been smoking a few.

A. non Eyemouse

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Aug 4, 2022, 6:44:13 AM8/4/22
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Interesting case with his re-posting of MW1CFN's blog here via it's RSS
feed. I don't think the author realised this until someone from here
made comments on the "Len Paget RSGB email account" posting. Author has
also taken to putting explicit copyright notices on all his content and
disabled the RSS feed which suggests he was unhappy with it being
re-distributed far and wide. Well worth a read though as it highlights
some very dubious behaviours within RSGB Ltd.

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 4, 2022, 7:53:23 AM8/4/22
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that was me....they were beating Len up......

brian

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Aug 4, 2022, 1:44:42 PM8/4/22
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In message <jl1c3i...@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<Aero....@mail.invalid> writes
The raison d'etre for uram was the flame wars in this group. Now that
the combatants are now dead, senile or lost interest, the abuse that
kept it alive is gone. Now all that is left here is the odd sensible
post. The majority of the posts are auto-blogs.That sort of thing
spelled the death of the rec.radio.amateur* groups.

If the blogs were removed, it could be quite a decent group unshackled
from the tyranny of moderation,then I agree uram could be removed in
theory. The late Paul Cummings tried it.

Of course ulm is so successful, that uk.legal could be deleted.

Uk.rec.cycling soldiers on because the posters have learned not to feed
the trolls.

Cheers Brian GM4DIJ
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Bernie

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Aug 4, 2022, 3:08:51 PM8/4/22
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The battle for the creation of the moderated group was just a
continuation of the flame war. Not sure who won the peace, though.

Scummins is dead (probably), Cole seems to have lost interest; who do
you reckon's gone senile?

> If the blogs were removed, it could be quite a decent group
> unshackled from the tyranny of moderation,then I agree uram could be
> removed in theory. The late Paul Cummings tried it.
>
> Of course ulm is so successful, that uk.legal could be deleted.
>
> Uk.rec.cycling soldiers on because the posters have learned not to
> feed the trolls.

Burt seems to be enjoying his morning constitutional troll in the
unmoderated cycling group, food or not.


>
> Cheers Brian GM4DIJ


Roger Hayter

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Aug 4, 2022, 3:32:51 PM8/4/22
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I'm not sure that's entirely true. The last, and successful, RFD was supported
by people who took pains not to take sides in the flame war, and to (correctly
as it turned out) reassure people that there would be little or no effect on
ukra. Of course, the impetus came from the American, and I don't think anyone
else was enormously optimistic about the value of the group. It now ranks as
one of the many uk.* groups that remains just about useful enough not to be
deleted. Text Usenet is not, of course, a growing medium. Not least becasue it
is hard to see how it can provide a significant profit to anyone.





>
> Scummins is dead (probably), Cole seems to have lost interest; who do
> you reckon's gone senile?
>
>> If the blogs were removed, it could be quite a decent group
>> unshackled from the tyranny of moderation,then I agree uram could be
>> removed in theory. The late Paul Cummings tried it.
>>
>> Of course ulm is so successful, that uk.legal could be deleted.
>>
>> Uk.rec.cycling soldiers on because the posters have learned not to
>> feed the trolls.
>
> Burt seems to be enjoying his morning constitutional troll in the
> unmoderated cycling group, food or not.
>
>
>>
>> Cheers Brian GM4DIJ


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Bernie

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Aug 4, 2022, 3:45:38 PM8/4/22
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On 4 Aug 2022 19:32:48 GMT
Not entirely true, I'd agree, but largely true - not like you to be
picky, Roger.




brian

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Aug 4, 2022, 3:51:15 PM8/4/22
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In message <jl2jq0...@mid.individual.net>, Bernie
<bernie...@gmail.com> writes
Nobody won. All too late.

>Scummins is dead (probably), Cole seems to have lost interest; who do
>you reckon's gone senile?

He's definitely dead- died 3 times. I've probably gone senile.

>> If the blogs were removed, it could be quite a decent group
>> unshackled from the tyranny of moderation,then I agree uram could be
>> removed in theory. The late Paul Cummings tried it.
>>
>> Of course ulm is so successful, that uk.legal could be deleted.
>>
>> Uk.rec.cycling soldiers on because the posters have learned not to
>> feed the trolls.
>
>Burt seems to be enjoying his morning constitutional troll in the
>unmoderated cycling group, food or not.

I noticed that, some kid eh ?

Brian
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Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 5, 2022, 3:23:21 AM8/5/22
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> The raison d'etre for uram was the flame wars in this group. Now that
> the combatants  are now dead, senile or lost interest, the abuse that
> kept it alive is gone.

or go under false names......

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 5, 2022, 3:24:31 AM8/5/22
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welcome back burnie

Bernie

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Aug 15, 2022, 4:32:47 PM8/15/22
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Hasbeenage Kicks right through the night.

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 17, 2022, 5:45:21 AM8/17/22
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> Hasbeenage Kicks right through the night.
>
what burnie ?

Bernie

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Aug 17, 2022, 7:24:16 AM8/17/22
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:45:19 +0100
"Jim Stewart ..." <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Things to do in Devon when you're dead, Jimmy (the saint).


Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 17, 2022, 12:43:44 PM8/17/22
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On 17/08/2022 13:31, Brian Morrison wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:45:19 +0100
> "Jim Stewart ..." <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> I got the reference, Sean Sharkey is G0OAN.
>
what?

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 17, 2022, 1:36:58 PM8/17/22
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On 17/08/2022 17:48, Brian Morrison wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 17:43:41 +0100
> "Jim Stewart ..." <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> On 17/08/2022 13:31, Brian Morrison wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:45:19 +0100
>>> "Jim Stewart ..." <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hasbeenage Kicks right through the night.
>>>>>
>>>> what burnie ?
>>>
>>> I got the reference, Sean Sharkey is G0OAN.
>>>
>> what?
>
> Feargal Sharkey. The Undertones. Teenage Kicks from 1978.
>
what has he got to do with it?...is he not into performers rights these
days

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 17, 2022, 2:26:26 PM8/17/22
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On 17/08/2022 19:21, Brian Morrison wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:36:56 +0100
> "Jim Stewart ..." <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> On 17/08/2022 17:48, Brian Morrison wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 17:43:41 +0100
>>> "Jim Stewart ..." <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 17/08/2022 13:31, Brian Morrison wrote:
>> [...]
>>>>>>> Hasbeenage Kicks right through the night.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> what burnie ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I got the reference, Sean Sharkey is G0OAN.
>>>>>
>>>> what?
>>>
>>> Feargal Sharkey. The Undertones. Teenage Kicks from 1978.
>>>
>> what has he got to do with it?...is he not into performers rights these
>> days
>
> He wrote the original, Bernie was referencing the song, and these days
> Sean is into fly-fishing and is doing his best to draw attention to the
> sewage and farm runoff going into chalk streams and killing off the
> wildlife in them.
>
> He also holds an amateur licence, and in the past took a morse test. I
> thought you would like that.
>
I had no idea

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 17, 2022, 2:28:29 PM8/17/22
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and who is Sean ?

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 17, 2022, 2:31:54 PM8/17/22
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Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 17, 2022, 3:19:56 PM8/17/22
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what?

A. non Eyemouse

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Aug 18, 2022, 1:22:29 PM8/18/22
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 19:31:52 +0100
I wonder if he was too busy punking around in 1978 to take the last
written RAE or whether he held out for the tickety-box one. His
callsign would suggest the latter but he may have had a class B prior
to that. He could even have been a G8S??.

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 18, 2022, 2:05:53 PM8/18/22
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read in some of the copy he had a class B

Bernie

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Aug 27, 2022, 11:17:32 AM8/27/22
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 20:19:55 +0100
"Jim Stewart ..." <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> On 17/08/2022 12:24, Bernie wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:45:19 +0100
> > "Jim Stewart ..." <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Hasbeenage Kicks right through the night.
> >>>
> >> what burnie ?
> >
> > Things to do in Devon when you're dead, Jimmy (the saint).
> >
> >
> what?

Everybody's restless and they've got no place to go. Someone's always
trying to tell them something they already know. So their anger and
resentment flow.

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 28, 2022, 11:58:59 AM8/28/22
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what?

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 28, 2022, 12:00:27 PM8/28/22
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On 27/08/2022 16:17, Bernie wrote:
> Everybody's restless and they've got no place to go. Someone's always
> trying to tell them something they already know. So their anger and
> resentment flow.
aaaa Warran Zevon was cool...

Bernie

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Aug 28, 2022, 6:29:59 PM8/28/22
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 16:58:57 +0100
"Jim Stewart ..." <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> On 27/08/2022 16:17, Bernie wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 20:19:55 +0100
> > "Jim Stewart ..." <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 17/08/2022 12:24, Bernie wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 10:45:19 +0100
> >>> "Jim Stewart ..." <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Hasbeenage Kicks right through the night.
> >>>>>
> >>>> what burnie ?
> >>>
> >>> Things to do in Devon when you're dead, Jimmy (the saint).
> >>>
> >>>
> >> what?
> >
> > Everybody's restless and they've got no place to go. Someone's
> > always trying to tell them something they already know. So their
> > anger and resentment flow.
> >
> what?

Burt's a brave charioteer fighting against the UK's War on the Motor
Vehicle, Jim.

Definitely not a victim, no, no, no, no!

Jim Stewart ...

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Aug 29, 2022, 3:31:09 PM8/29/22
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what a good man

Bernie

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Sep 3, 2022, 12:48:04 PM9/3/22
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 20:31:09 +0100
He's a fucking nutjob. Him, Perry Mason, and Mrs Nugentory - they all
deserve each other.

Jim Stewart ...

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good people do burnie

Bernie

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On Sun, 4 Sep 2022 07:21:12 +0100
Arseholes to jim


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