Philips Electronic Engineer kits

[notformail]

The message <3575e...@newsread1.dircon.co.uk>
from "David Lovatt" <d...@dircon.co.uk> contains these words:

> Hi - as a youngster I had great fun with the Philips Electronic Engineer
> Kits (in the 1970s).
> Anyone else experimented with these? Would love any info on WWW sites, scans
> of circuit diagrams etc..
> Msg me if you're feeling nostalgic.
> I had the EE1003, 1004 and 1005 I think they were.
> Lastly I had the X40 kit./ I still have the manual for that if anyone is
> interested.

Yes I had one for a Xmas present in 1964! probably pushed my interest
in electronics a bit. Trouble was replacing the transisors when you
broke the legs off pushing them through the clips (AC126 25 shillings
pocket money 2s 6d per week).

My friend had a Heathkit one which seemed more fun including an AM
transmitter design.

--
rik G8ESB

rik8esb at zetnet co uk

[David Lovatt]

This must have been the EE20 kit with AF115s as well - with 4 leads, and
little red rubbery things to keep the leads apart?!
What fun!
Dave G7UHK
notformail wrote in message <199806041...@zetnet.co.uk>...

[Richard Herring]

David Lovatt (d...@dircon.co.uk) wrote:
: This must have been the EE20 kit with AF115s as well - with 4 leads, and

: little red rubbery things to keep the leads apart?!
: What fun!

Oh joy!

The original was the EE8 (you could make 8 (wow!) different circuits)
with, let's see:

AF116 (4 legs but *no* rubbery thing in the original kit,
so it wasn't long before they dropped off) RF transistor.
AC126 AF transistor.
OA79 diode.
ORP12 photocell.
A crystal earpiece.
A choke (secret ingredient of the reflex receiver circuits.)
A 6V 50mA bulb in a little green shade.
Assorted resistors
4 (?) electrolytics
Several big chunky polyester capacitors.
A bit of bendy metal with a knob to use as a morse key.
A variable capacitor.
A pot with on/off switch.
A ferrite rod with medium-wave coil.
and assorted bits of wire, grommets and springy things to hold it
all together.

Then came the upgrade kit, the A20, which made 20 circuits and added:
Another AC126
Two 160-ohm loudspeakers.
A DPDT slide switch (changeover for the intercom) Or was that in the EE8?
Eight more bits of bendy metal (the keys for the electronic organ)
Assorted extra resistors (for tuning the organ)

(and there was another upgrade consisting of a long-wave coil)

Presumably they later sold the combined set as the EE20?
--
Richard Herring | richard...@gecm.com | Speaking for myself
GEC-Marconi Research Centre |

[Jon Iza]

Richard Herring wrote:
The RF transistor was an AF116, which was possible to substitute by an
AF126 (I managed to break a bunch of them :-). The rubbery thing was a
scrap of plastic cover of the wire used to connecting points. It was
needed to avoid a short, since the four legs of the transistor, E, B, C
and ground were coplanar.
The speakers were 140 ohms, and I was really lucky to find a pair just
lying on the street!

To be sure I will be able to pass a complete EE20 to my kids I recently
found in one of those obscure, old parts shops one AF116. It cost me
almost three pounds! But I will be sure to be there when a kid will
build his/her first radio set. Just watching his/her face will feel like
a million pounds!
jon, ea2sn

--
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Escuela de Ingenieros / Alda. Urquijo s/n / E-48013 Bilbao -Spain-
Ph +34-944278055 x2353 Fax +34-944414041 Ham:ea2sn (a real qrp'er!)
* One's needs are proportional to the square of his/her incompetence *

[Stephen]

This was the kit (I forget the number) that started the electronics
bug for me. It was bought by my parents in about 1970 I think, the
transistor used was the BC148 AFAIR. We were on a caravan holiday in
the Wye Valley at the time, and I remember my father finding a reel of
solder in amongst his car tool kit which enabled me to 'wire' it all
together, in the absence of copper wire.
These days I teach Physics (and A level Electronics) for my sins, and
I suffered more than a little nostalgia when I discovered a kit
exactly like the one I used to have in one of the store cupboards in
my department. It seems just about complete. I wonder what my
students will consider to evoke similar nostalgia when they reach my
age? P233MMX perhaps?!

--
Stephen G4SJP (feeling old!)

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David Lovatt wrote in message <3575e...@newsread1.dircon.co.uk>...

>Hi - as a youngster I had great fun with the Philips Electronic
Engineer
>Kits (in the 1970s).
>Anyone else experimented with these? Would love any info on WWW
sites, scans
>of circuit diagrams etc..
>Msg me if you're feeling nostalgic.
>I had the EE1003, 1004 and 1005 I think they were.
>Lastly I had the X40 kit./ I still have the manual for that if anyone
is
>interested.
>

>Dave Lovatt G7UHK
>Highgate
>London
>England.
>
>

[Ian Robert Walker]

It may have been mentioned, but who remembers Triang-Trionic?
--
Ian Robert Walker

[g8...@hotmail.com]

In article <G19fpFAF...@newbrain.demon.co.uk>,

...Can,t remember that one but I got a Phirips electronic kit when I was 10
and I think that lit my fire with regards to electronics. A few years later
I was messing around with large AM oscillators on 1612Khz but that,s another
story.... Bob. G8SPE

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[Ian Robert Walker]

In article <6lo9aj$tia$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, g8...@hotmail.com writes

>In article <G19fpFAF...@newbrain.demon.co.uk>,
> Ian Robert Walker <I...@newbrain.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> It may have been mentioned, but who remembers Triang-Trionic?
>> --
>> Ian Robert Walker
>>
>...Can,t remember that one but I got a Phirips electronic kit when I was 10
>and I think that lit my fire with regards to electronics. A few years later
>I was messing around with large AM oscillators on 1612Khz but that,s another
>story.... Bob. G8SPE

I had the Triang-Trionic when I was about 9. It contained 5 PCBs with a
selection of R's, C's, a couple or Tr's, a coil and a tuning cap. the
components were mounted in coloured (standard colour code) plastic
blocks with split pin plugs bringing the connexions out, the transistors
had a clear plastic top, the others were open so you could see the
component. Using one of the PCB's you could plug them in to build
various TRF's. They used a wire aerial.

--
Ian Robert Walker

[Ian Robert Walker]

In article <LHp8lcAo...@newbrain.demon.co.uk>, Ian Robert Walker
<I...@newbrain.demon.co.uk> writes

----- Cut, myself about Triang-Trionic.

I had the Philips EE8 and A20 a few years later, I also had both a home
chemistry kit and an electro-magnetism science kit. I think these got me
interested in science in general and electronics in particular, although
since my father and his father worked in electronics they must have
played a large part.
--
Ian Robert Walker

[Richard Herring]

Ian Robert Walker (I...@newbrain.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <LHp8lcAo...@newbrain.demon.co.uk>, Ian Robert Walker
: <I...@newbrain.demon.co.uk> writes

Personally I attribute it to the Ladybird "Magnets, Bulbs and Batteries"
and the "wonderland of Knowledge" encyclopaedia.

[Nigel Hewitt]

Richard Herring wrote in message <6lr18u$690$3...@miranda.gmrc.gecm.com>...

cut lots

>Personally I attribute it to the Ladybird "Magnets, Bulbs and Batteries"
>and the "wonderland of Knowledge" encyclopaedia.

Did any of you ever read a book called "The Boy Electrician" full of
wonderful things to make (provided you had access to a reasonable
machine shop, access to serious poisons and a fortune in weird
raw materials.) It even had an added section on valves to bring it
up to date.

At the age of 9 I thought this was the definitive work on the subject.
How I am still alive I don't know. The combination of the lethal
chemistry, high voltages, open wiring systems and wild design
(of course you put the headphones between the anode
and the HT) must have carried of lots of potential "electricians".
My parents just treated my exploits as hi-tech meccano.

--
nigelH
G8JFT

[Frank Erskine]

In article <6lr54p$4l7$1...@grind.server.pavilion.net>, Nigel Hewitt
<no.more.spam....@seikisys.co.uk> writes

>Richard Herring wrote in message <6lr18u$690$3...@miranda.gmrc.gecm.com>...
>
>cut lots
>
>>Personally I attribute it to the Ladybird "Magnets, Bulbs and Batteries"
>>and the "wonderland of Knowledge" encyclopaedia.
>
>
>Did any of you ever read a book called "The Boy Electrician" full of
>wonderful things to make (provided you had access to a reasonable
>machine shop, access to serious poisons and a fortune in weird
>raw materials.)

I have a copy in front of me now! As you say, it would cost a fortune
to make some of the stuff nowadays - for example to make an induction
coil you need 2lb of 38 swg wire. However, most of the projects were
real engineering feats, unlike some namby-pamby modern ideas.

> It even had an added section on valves to bring it
>up to date.

One of these days I'll finish off that 1-valver (HL2), when I find a
source of 100V HT batteries!

>
>At the age of 9 I thought this was the definitive work on the subject.
>How I am still alive I don't know. The combination of the lethal
>chemistry, high voltages, open wiring systems and wild design
>(of course you put the headphones between the anode
>and the HT) must have carried of lots of potential "electricians".
>My parents just treated my exploits as hi-tech meccano.
>

I'll bet there was nobody killed or seriously injured using stuff like
that. Kids are too soft nowadays :-)
--
Frank Erskine
Sunderland
http://www.g3wte.demon.co.uk/

[Ian Robert Walker]

In article <6lr18u$690$3...@miranda.gmrc.gecm.com>, Richard Herring
<r...@gmrc.gecm.com> writes

>
>Personally I attribute it to the Ladybird "Magnets, Bulbs and Batteries"
>and the "wonderland of Knowledge" encyclopaedia.

I had "Understanding Science" & "New Knowledge" part works when I was
about 10 - 12, and "Look and Learn" before that.
--
Ian Robert Walker

[Ken Odlum]

Ian Robert Walker wrote in message ...

>I had the Triang-Trionic when I was about 9. It contained 5 PCBs with a
>selection of R's, C's, a couple or Tr's, a coil and a tuning cap. the
>components were mounted in coloured (standard colour code) plastic
>blocks with split pin plugs bringing the connexions out, the transistors
>had a clear plastic top, the others were open so you could see the
>component. Using one of the PCB's you could plug them in to build
>various TRF's. They used a wire aerial.

Thanks for jogging my memory, I also had one of those. One of the
components was a germanium diode and one of the circuits was a
xtal set which was my favourite as batteries didn't last long in those
days.

[Gareth Alun Evans]

Nigel Hewitt wrote in message <6lr54p$4l7$1...@grind.server.pavilion.net>...

>Did any of you ever read a book called "The Boy Electrician" full of
>wonderful things to make (provided you had access to a reasonable
>machine shop, access to serious poisons and a fortune in weird

>raw materials.) It even had an added section on valves to bring it
>up to date.

I have copies of the 1941 edition, which is as you describe. The 1960's
edition, which I also have, is really a different book, full of easy
transistor projects; presumably in the modern style of safety-conscious
mothering.

[Roger Glover]

Nigel Hewitt <no.more.spam....@seikisys.co.uk> wrote in article
8X

> Did any of you ever read a book called "The Boy Electrician" full of
> wonderful things to make (provided you had access to a reasonable
> machine shop, access to serious poisons and a fortune in weird
> raw materials.) It even had an added section on valves to bring it
> up to date.
>

> At the age of 9 I thought this was the definitive work on the subject.
> How I am still alive I don't know. The combination of the lethal
> chemistry, high voltages, open wiring systems and wild design
> (of course you put the headphones between the anode
> and the HT) must have carried of lots of potential "electricians".
> My parents just treated my exploits as hi-tech meccano.
>

It makes my willy twitch when I look through it now...
..running an Xray tube from a 1.5" spark coil...."Warning If the skin is
exposed directly to Xrays for only a few miinutes an irritating and even
dangerous inflamation may result.." !
..a potential divider on the mains to power low power devices drawing
2-3amps.
..my first tx - a 6J5 powered from an old battery eliminator and a 6.3v
transformer - modulated by a carbon mike in the HT line - things got a bit
lively when the breath moisture condensed on the mike cover completing the
path to my lips!
Oh happy days.....

--

Wojja.
London UK.
Remove XX for correct E-mail address

[Simon Robinson]

I still have TWO complete Philips Radionic Kits. The type where you bolted
small component fixtures to a piece of printed paxolin.

They are the Radionic Kits if I remember rightly.

Regards

Simon

[David Lovatt]

I have the manual for my X40 kit - it says Philips on the cover, inside
cover says published by Radionics Products ltd.
:)

Simon Robinson wrote in message
<358844FA.801C277D@soft_tools.onyxnet.co.uk>...

[Nigel]

>Simon Robinson wrote in message
><358844FA.801C277D@soft_tools.onyxnet.co.uk>...
>>I still have TWO complete Philips Radionic Kits. The type where you
bolted
>>small component fixtures to a piece of printed paxolin.

I had the EE8 and A20 Philips Electronic Engineer kits. Also had the
Philips Radio Engineer (green cardboard box containing kit to build MW
radio in a plastic case, no soldering required) and the Philips Intercom
Engineer (red cardboard box to build a pair of intercoms in red plastic
cases, connected by long pair of wires). I still have the intercoms in
working condition (My dad worked for Mullards, part of the Philips group)
Nigel

[stev...@talktalk.net]

On Thursday, June 4, 1998 at 8:00:00 AM UTC+1, notformail wrote:
> The message <3575e...@newsread1.dircon.co.uk>
> from "David Lovatt" <d...@dircon.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>

> > Hi - as a youngster I had great fun with the Philips Electronic Engineer
> > Kits (in the 1970s).
> > Anyone else experimented with these? Would love any info on WWW sites, scans
> > of circuit diagrams etc..
> > Msg me if you're feeling nostalgic.
> > I had the EE1003, 1004 and 1005 I think they were.
> > Lastly I had the X40 kit./ I still have the manual for that if anyone is
> > interested.
>

> Yes I had one for a Xmas present in 1964! probably pushed my interest
> in electronics a bit. Trouble was replacing the transisors when you
> broke the legs off pushing them through the clips (AC126 25 shillings
> pocket money 2s 6d per week).
>
> My friend had a Heathkit one which seemed more fun including an AM
> transmitter design.
>
>
>
>
> --
> rik G8ESB
>
> rik8esb at zetnet co uk

Yes I had the Electronics Eng kits, Mechanical Eng kits, Radio Eng kit and the Interphone Eng Kit.
I still have the items (some no boxes) but have several Mech kits and Electronic ones. It inspired me into Electronics to which I gained an Hons Degree in Electronics. Can still get some AC126 and 128 transistors. AF116 more difficult.
Steve Cade

[Phi]

<stev...@talktalk.net> wrote in message
news:8580ee09-07c1-47b6...@googlegroups.com...

I had a 'Trix Electro No11 set'
http://www.trix-metaal.nl/Dozen/1948-1960.htm

[Rambo]

Have a look at
http://ee.old.no/library/EE1003-en.pdf

[Rambo]

On Sat, 9 May 2015 01:16:09 -0700 (PDT), stev...@talktalk.net wrote:

A BF450 will substitute for an AF115/6/7 in most cases. I know its
Silicon instead of Germanium but the bias is quite close.
And of course much cheaper.

[A. non Eyemouse]

Another 1998 thread resurrected. Not sure if Rik G8ESB is still around,
I remember him on 2m back in the 1980s...

AF117s - aren't they the ones that grow whiskers and can be revived by
cutting off the screen leg? I've got a Bush TR130 here full of those and
it still makes a wonderful sound.

--
Mouse.
Where Morse meets House.

[Rambo]

Ah the World Cup radio!. I've a few myself,one of my favorites. The
transistors junctions are encased in silicon grease inside the can and
is not in direct with it. Quickly warming up the tin just to the point
where the solder begins to melt around the bottom joint should melt
any whiskers and keep em going for another 50 years!

[johntina...@googlemail.com]

On Thursday, June 4, 1998 at 8:00:00 AM UTC+1, notformail wrote:
> The message <3575e...@newsread1.dircon.co.uk>
> from "David Lovatt" <d...@dircon.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>
> > Hi - as a youngster I had great fun with the Philips Electronic Engineer
> > Kits (in the 1970s).
> > Anyone else experimented with these? Would love any info on WWW sites, scans
> > of circuit diagrams etc..
> > Msg me if you're feeling nostalgic.
> > I had the EE1003, 1004 and 1005 I think they were.
> > Lastly I had the X40 kit./ I still have the manual for that if anyone is
> > interested.
>
> Yes I had one for a Xmas present in 1964! probably pushed my interest
> in electronics a bit. Trouble was replacing the transisors when you
> broke the legs off pushing them through the clips (AC126 25 shillings
> pocket money 2s 6d per week).
>
> My friend had a Heathkit one which seemed more fun including an AM
> transmitter design.
>
>
>
>
> --
> rik G8ESB
>
> rik8esb at zetnet co uk

My wife just asked me what was my best ever christmas prezzy as a kid? I might sound a geek but a have to say without doubt it was the Philips EE 1003 kit in about 1972/3, I played for hours and hours going from the simple flashing light to the radio project which I managed to tune into the police band which was exiting stuff for a 13yr old back then. I have now worked in mechanical engineering for 42 yrs but often wonder what would I be doing if I had stuck with my first love of electronics!

[Brian Reay]

I remember mine well. There was also the 'matching' mechanical engineer
kit. I must have received that in about '67, for various reasons I know
it was before '68. The electronics one probably '68, possibly '69
although I'd saved up for it rather than being a present. I'd already
been tinkering with bits of electronics and the like for some time by then.

[Jimbo ...]

>My wife just asked me what was my best ever christmas prezzy as a kid? I
>might sound a geek but a have to say without doubt it was the Philips EE
> >1003 kit in about 1972/3, I played for hours and hours going from the
>simple flashing light to the radio project which I managed to tune into the
> >police band which was exiting stuff for a 13yr old back then. I have now
>worked in mechanical engineering for 42 yrs but often wonder what would >I
>be doing if I had stuck with my first love of electronics!

Noddy builds his house book....1953.......Was in the building industry 40
yrs but often wonder what would I be doing if I hadn't stuck with my first
love of building!...each to his own ...tee hee


http://www.enidblytonsociety.co.uk/book-details.php?id=2596&title=Building+Noddy%27s+House

[Catweazel]

Eagle Annual #6 How to make a crystal set;

http://www.eagleannual.info/eagle_annual_6.php

Never really looked back -
electronic systems for planes, trains & planes again.
OTOH I could have been an uncivil engineer having had meccano sets &
Bayko building sets as pressies.

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[Brian Howie]

In message <QFu%B.158451$bH7....@fx38.am4>, Jimbo ...
<jim.g...@ntlworld.com> writes

I had " Noddy Goes to Toyland "

I don't think that house would have got past building control.

They're not wearing PPE either

Brian
--
Brian Howie

[Jimbo ...]

take a chance...I liked the book where the garage owners gets all his
cars stolen by the gollywogs .....and noddy gets a car as a reward .....

--
Sometimes I pretend to be normal then I get bored and go back to being
me ...

[Ian Jackson]

In message <p1lu09$ef8$1...@dont-email.me>, Catweazel
<francis...@iee.org> writes

My four Eagle Annuals went to Oxfam several months ago - but I still
have my Bayko (vgc, BTW).
>

--
Ian

[Jimbo ...]

"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:nKsJd9Dw7rPaFw$t...@brattleho.plus.com...

bet you don't have a buccaneer board game ....

[Jimbo ...]

"Jimbo ..." <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:3Fz%B.140581$p_5.1...@fx05.am4...

or easy money board game ? ......

[Ian Jackson]

In message <3Fz%B.140581$p_5.1...@fx05.am4>, Jimbo ...
<jim.g...@ntlworld.com> writes


>>>
>>

>bet you don't have a buccaneer board game ....

No. Got some 'well loved' Dinky and Timpo cars, lorries, tractors etc
though.
>
>

--
Ian

[Jimbo ...]

"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote in message

news:DPuQ8FJ4...@brattleho.plus.com...

just started putting some of my stuff on youtube....

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrHxD7lc4kqg8F5FkOLQdsA/videos

[Ian Jackson]

In message <a4A%B.101048$fm1....@fx17.am4>, Jimbo ...

<jim.g...@ntlworld.com> writes
>
>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:DPuQ8FJ4...@brattleho.plus.com...
>> In message <3Fz%B.140581$p_5.1...@fx05.am4>, Jimbo ...
>> <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> writes
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>bet you don't have a buccaneer board game ....
>>
>> No. Got some 'well loved' Dinky and Timpo cars, lorries, tractors etc
>> though.
>>>
>>>
>>
>just started putting some of my stuff on youtube....
>
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrHxD7lc4kqg8F5FkOLQdsA/videos
>

Interesting.....
>

--
Ian

[Bernie]

Jim. have you considered putting your stuff on a bonfire, Jim, as an
alternative to putting it on youtube, Jim?


Thanks, Jim.

[Jimbo ...]

"Bernie" <bernie...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fa89s6...@mid.individual.net...

I did recently skip a couple of dozen old transistor radios ........

[Brian Howie]

It says it was the goblins what done it.

http://www.enidblytonsociety.co.uk/book-details.php?id=332

It may have been PCd here thoughbut .

"This monotonously infantile character, who is frequently heard to say
that he doesn't like being sensible but would far rather be silly,
seems to have been put together from the weakest and least desirable
attributes of childhood. It is hard to explain the persistent
popularity of these trivial, repetitive stories with their small,
retarded, masochistic hero."

Brian

[Jimbo ...]

"Brian Howie" <Br...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uupv3dl2crk6vpviv...@4ax.com...

well I would go off with a gollywog for a bag of six-pence's as well !
........

[alan.ri...@googlemail.com]

I also started a career with the Philips kit in the mid 60s.
How about one of these for a dangerous toy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_U-238_Atomic_Energy_Laboratory