I think I will......
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/06/fort-hood-shooting-suspect-alive
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
"Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> ....give the therapy a miss on Tuesday .........
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/06/fort-hood-shooting-suspect-alive
>
What were they thinking about sending a Muslam to join the fight there
?????? MAD
Yeti
> ....give the therapy a miss on Tuesday .........
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/06/fort-hood-shooting-suspect-alive
>
>
Surprise, suprise - he's a muslim.
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
Well you see, in America, there is 'Going postal' and then there's
'Going army-postal.'
Nick.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
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fecking fanatic .........
Steve Terry
and all it stands for, renouncing all previous allegiances
He should have thought longer before doing it
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G1LVN
> ....give the therapy a miss on Tuesday .........
>
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/06/fort-hood-shooting-suspec...
Actually it's quite common for soldiers to run amoke around base with
loaded guns, particularly those suffering post traumatic stress etc,
most death's don't get reported, mind you most aren't commited by
islamics dressed in nightshirts, rather squaddies who've had too much
pop.
The incident in Afghanistan last weekend is looking more like a
personal grudge/vendetta. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out
the same.
A hell of a lot of shrinks (in my experience) were initially drawn to
the career as a result of serious pyscological problems they suffered
themselves. Problem is it's really down to them to self regulate their
behaviour which is a less than optimum solution.
G1LVN
> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4...@googlemail.com> wrote in messagenews:hd1k0m$i88$1...@news.eternal-september.org...> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >news:hd1jsu$h9o$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> ....give the therapy a miss on Tuesday .........
>
>
> > "Hasan's family said he had been dreading deployment to Afghanistan."
>
> > What were they thinking about sending a Muslam to join the fight there
> > ?????? MAD
>
> Merrican immigrants unlike ours swear allegiance to the flag of the US
> and all it stands for, renouncing all previous allegiances
>
He was born and raised in the US. Followed Islam like millions of
others. Sounds like he had been suffering constant hounding and
harassment by a whole bunch of psycho WT red necks he was caring for
and just snapped one night. I'm sure this wasn't the first time
someone has gone beserk in that community of 40 odd thousand service
personel (all armed and dangerous).
I could be wrong of course. Maybe he was just some mad "Muslam" and
not a sensitive human _Bean afterall.
Spike
G1LVN wrote:
>He was born and raised in the US. Followed Islam like millions of
>others. Sounds like he had been suffering constant hounding and
>harassment by a whole bunch of psycho WT red necks he was caring for
>and just snapped one night. I'm sure this wasn't the first time
>someone has gone beserk in that community of 40 odd thousand service
>personel (all armed and dangerous).
>
>I could be wrong of course. Maybe he was just some mad "Muslam" and
>not a sensitive human _Bean afterall.
Well, taking into account he
- was a lifelong Muslim
- was a devout Muslim
- was a regular mosque attendee
- wore traditional dress
- didn't want to serve in Afghnanistan
- shouted 'alley rucksack' before opening fire
- glorified suicide bombers on his blog
we should follow Barack Hussein Obama's suggestion about not jumping
to conclusions here.
--
from
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Not a member of the RSGB for 50 years 1959 - 2009
Brian Reay
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> A hell of a lot of shrinks (in my experience)
Thank makes it appear you've had a lot of experience with "shrinks".
Most people have probably never had cause to speak to one.
Yeti
I never realised Muslims were such big Star Wars fans.
Everytime I go past the mosque, they're chanting for Admiral Ackbar.
Spike
Yeti wrote:
Well, they wouldn't chant the name of Admiral (Lord) Exmouth, would
they:
"Algiers, bombardment of, 1816. On 27 August 1816, Lord Exmouth, in
command of nineteen British warships, bombarded Algiers for eight
hours, destroying much of the town. The Dey then agreed to abolish
Christian slavery in his dominions."
G1LVN
> G1LVN wrote:
> >He was born and raised in the US. Followed Islam like millions of
> >others. Sounds like he had been suffering constant hounding and
> >harassment by a whole bunch of psycho WT red necks he was caring for
> >and just snapped one night. I'm sure this wasn't the first time
> >someone has gone beserk in that community of 40 odd thousand service
> >personel (all armed and dangerous).
>
> >I could be wrong of course. Maybe he was just some mad "Muslam" and
> >not a sensitive human _Bean afterall.
>
> Well, taking into account he
>
> - was a lifelong Muslim
I heard he was a convert. Typically phsycologists are agnostic.
> - was a devout Muslim
nowt wrong with the 5 Pillars of Islam, Closest most cristian's get to
it is giving up biscuits for lent. Pretty good way to run your life if
you ask me
> - was a regular mosque attendee
no he wasn't. He occasionally went to the one in Washington before he
was posted.
> - wore traditional dress
It's hot in Texas. It's not as if he was combat personel - more like a
padre in fact.
> - didn't want to serve in Afghnanistan (sic)
didn't want to go to leave US, his terms of service was to help
soldiers convalesce after returning from combat with deep
physcological trauma.
> - shouted 'alley rucksack' before opening fire
I think you'll find US and military in general call them daysacks. If
I was driven to contemplate suicide by cop I think I'd shout something
similar and I'd certainly dress that way.
> - glorified suicide bombers on his blog
it is alledged
>
> we should follow Barack Hussein Obama's suggestion about not jumping
> to conclusions here.
Now we agree,
John
news:lXcJm.10640$kH2....@newsfe04.ams2...
Why do you feel this need to pick a squabble with almost everyone
that you interact with? Not just minor disagreements from you, but always
snide comments with nasty streaks.
Perhaps it is you for whom an experience with a shrink is long overdue?
It is noticeable that when you're doing your community service on Mondays,
Tuesdays and Wednesdays, that the traffic in this newsfroup is much reduced
and on a more civilised basis than the days when you're here spoiling for
a fight.
G1LVN
> "G1LVN" <gareth.pa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I have a wide circle of family and friends Brian and many our
physcologists or at least have post grad education in social sciences
- not unlike myself.
You stick with yer butchers, bakers and candlestick makers down your
Am Dram society and the CBer's down yer club. Most people have great
cause to speak to "shrinks". It's just that the inherant delusion and
social stigma - as you well demonstrate - stops the majority of them
seeking help and pretty simple and effective treatment. Good for
stress too, reduces blood pressure, heart problems, strokes and
that....
.
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
<gareth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Now we agree,
Whatever you agree, or disagree on. One thing is for sure.
That was an excellent bit of shooting, by the police-woman who brought
him down.
Putting four shots, fired at not particularly close quarters, into a
target who is shooting back, is excellent.
She didn't even need him to be disarmed and held down on the floor by
other officers, whilst she emptied a magazine into his head.
Maybe the Metropolitan Police could learn something.
Nick.
G1LVN
Belief in a higher power other than yourself helps too, no really need
for a shrink if you behave yourself and carry out good conduct in
society. If you are not of a religous bent the maybe you could join
the odd fellows, buffs, or freemasons perhaps - it might restore in
you some sense of humility.
G1LVN
> >Now we agree,
>
> Whatever you agree, or disagree on. One thing is for sure.
> That was an excellent bit of shooting, by the police-woman who brought
> him down.
>
> Putting four shots, fired at not particularly close quarters, into a
> target who is shooting back, is excellent.
They teach em the side on technique over there I think - left hand
bent and swinging behind to minimise recoil. Increases accuracy at
greater range. Of course you need to have the (metaphorical) balls to
stand up and do it in the first place, body armour helps.
>
> She didn't even need him to be disarmed and held down on the floor by
> other officers, whilst she emptied a magazine into his head.
I'm told that's called the "Israeli method"
Paul Starship
wrote:
>Thank makes it appear you've had a lot of experience with "shrinks".
>Most people have probably never had cause to speak to one.
there you go again...
Paul Starship
wrote:
>Why do you feel this need to pick a squabble with almost everyone
exactly!
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
<gareth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>They teach em the side on technique over there I think - left hand
>bent and swinging behind to minimise recoil. Increases accuracy at
>greater range. Of course you need to have the (metaphorical) balls to
>stand up and do it in the first place, body armour helps.
Makes you wonder what they teach them over here.
>> She didn't even need him to be disarmed and held down on the floor by
>> other officers, whilst she emptied a magazine into his head.
>
>I'm told that's called the "Israeli method"
So it's not called "The Brazilian" then? :-)
Nick.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
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Brian Reay
On 7 Nov, 11:34, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
> "G1LVN" <gareth.pa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e023a323-0fd0-4724...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > A hell of a lot of shrinks (in my experience)
>
> >Thank makes it appear you've had a lot of experience with "shrinks".
>
>> Most people have probably never had cause to speak to one.
>I have a wide circle of family and friends Brian and many our
>physcologists or at least have post grad education in social sciences
>- not unlike myself.
"Shrinks" is not a reference to "physcologists" so experience of the latter
does not equate to experience of "shrinks".
I still contend that most people don't have cause to seek the help of a
"shrink" nor do I attach any social stigma to those that do.
Nor do I believe that everyone who displays anti-social and disruptive
behaviour has some mental problem. Some people are just not very nice
people, they end up in unhappy situations (out of work, divorced, separated
etc) and become even less socially acceptable. Why they start down this path
has been debated for years, I reckon it generally stems from an unhappy
childhood.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
>I reckon it generally stems from an unhappy
> childhood.
>
>
which is what most people have........
Spike
G1LVN wrote:
>nowt wrong with the 5 Pillars of Islam, Closest most cristian's get to
>it is giving up biscuits for lent. Pretty good way to run your life if
>you ask me
I didn't ask you...but seeing as how you mention it, Islam has a code
that is as different from the Christian (note spelling and
captilisation) ethos as it could be: mutilation and stoning to death,
for example, as against a simple set of ten rules which, if you break
them, you can be forgiven for.
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI
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It's not like you to discourage trade, Sire.
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.
666 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
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Ian Jackson
<Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> writes
>
>G1LVN wrote:
>
>>nowt wrong with the 5 Pillars of Islam, Closest most cristian's get to
>>it is giving up biscuits for lent. Pretty good way to run your life if
>>you ask me
>
>I didn't ask you...but seeing as how you mention it, Islam has a code
>that is as different from the Christian (note spelling and
>captilisation) ethos as it could be: mutilation and stoning to death,
>for example, as against a simple set of ten rules which, if you break
>them, you can be forgiven for.
>
the ethos of the former, ie giving and allowing swingeing punishments
for the most minor of offences and, once they've got your name in the
book, never really being forgiven for anything. I almost laugh out loud
each time I hear someone say that Britain is a Christian country.
--
Ian
Spike
Ian Jackson wrote:
Christian is what the people are; autocratic brutal is the political
system. Even the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact countries managed to
keep the two separate.
Martin Wilson
> "G1LVN" <gareth...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> On 7 Nov, 11:34, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>> "G1LVN" <gareth.pa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>
news:e023a323-0fd0-4724...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>> > A hell of a lot of shrinks (in my experience)
>>
>> >Thank makes it appear you've had a lot of experience with "shrinks".
>>
>>> Most people have probably never had cause to speak to one.
>
>>I have a wide circle of family and friends Brian and many our
>>physcologists or at least have post grad education in social sciences
>>- not unlike myself.
>
> "Shrinks" is not a reference to "physcologists" so experience of the
> latter does not equate to experience of "shrinks".
>
> I still contend that most people don't have cause to seek the help of
> a "shrink" nor do I attach any social stigma to those that do.
But some do. You are correct that there should be no social stigma
attached. Perhaps it is time for you to realise that your advice to
others is good advice and advice you would be wise to follow yourself.
Go and see someone.
>
> Nor do I believe that everyone who displays anti-social and disruptive
> behaviour has some mental problem. Some people are just not very nice
> people, they end up in unhappy situations (out of work, divorced,
> separated etc) and become even less socially acceptable. Why they
> start down this path has been debated for years, I reckon it generally
> stems from an unhappy childhood.
There are lots of nasty people in this world. There are not so many who
project their own problems onto newsgroups in such a way that leads to
every posting resulting in an argument and scoring pointless points
over others.
I've read a lot about you recently and what overwhelmingly comes through
is a denial of other viewpoints to the point that any "discussion"
degenerates into a slanging match. You are nearly always the one to
start it off.
You are clearly not getting the "strokes" you so desire but instead you
are becoming an object of ridicule. OK, you are getting answers but
these are invariably negative. How long can you feed on the brush-offs
before you finally crack and admit that these are not satisfying your
inner need?
Go and seek help ASAP please.
This is well intended advice but I know you will not take it as such.
Martin Wilson
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> There are lots of nasty people in this world. There are not so many who
> project their own problems onto newsgroups in such a way that leads to
> every posting resulting in an argument and scoring pointless points
> over others.
>
> I've read a lot about you recently and what overwhelmingly comes through
> is a denial of other viewpoints to the point that any "discussion"
> degenerates into a slanging match. You are nearly always the one to
> start it off.
>
> You are clearly not getting the "strokes" you so desire but instead you
> are becoming an object of ridicule. OK, you are getting answers but
> these are invariably negative. How long can you feed on the brush-offs
> before you finally crack and admit that these are not satisfying your
> inner need?
>
> Go and seek help ASAP please.
>
> This is well intended advice but I know you will not take it as such.
>
> Martin Wilson
>
>
>
>
>
hit the nail on the head there Martin....good man.....
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
<g3...@turner-smith.co.uk> wrote:
>It's not like you to discourage trade, Sire.
The problem is with all of the four-legged pigs running around the
place.
I've been getting a lot of Muslims here recently and of couse the
first thing they're given is 70 sows.
Nick.
Yeti
Should they not be given 72 Sturgeons?
Brian Reay
"Spike" <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> G1LVN wrote:
>
>>nowt wrong with the 5 Pillars of Islam, Closest most cristian's get to
>>it is giving up biscuits for lent. Pretty good way to run your life if
>>you ask me
>
> I didn't ask you...but seeing as how you mention it, Islam has a code
> that is as different from the Christian (note spelling and
> captilisation) ethos as it could be: mutilation and stoning to death,
> for example, as against a simple set of ten rules which, if you break
> them, you can be forgiven for.
Islam isn't fundamentally anymore "brutal" than several other religions but
they all (well most) seem to get "hijacked" from time to time by extremists.
Basically, it comes down to a lack of tolerance of other peoples' beliefs.
This manifests itself in many ways, sometimes bombs other times suggesting
that anyone who follows a religion is somehow mentally deranged.
If everyone could develop the security to allow others to hold different
views from themselves then strife based on religion would end (ditto
arguments about CW and D-Star).
--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.net
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI
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Nah, it must be great fun watching their disappointed faces as they're led
away to their seats by/in the fire.
Andy
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:08:54 -0800 (PST), G1LVN
> <gareth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a wide circle of family and friends Brian and many our
>> physcologists or at least have post grad education in social sciences
>> - not unlike myself.
>
> There is a difference, you know.
>
> 73 de Wlat
>
Psychology is the lowest of the "ologies". After Maureen Lipman of BT fame.
"Social Sciences" are the refuge of those who can't study a proper subject.
Andy
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
<g3...@turner-smith.co.uk> wrote:
>"Yeti" <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote in message
>news:hd4o37$o5u$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> luc...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>>
>>> I've been getting a lot of Muslims here recently and of couse the
>>> first thing they're given is 70 sows.
>>>
>>> Nick.
>>
>> Should they not be given 72 Sturgeons?
>
>Nah, it must be great fun watching their disappointed faces as they're led
>away to their seats by/in the fire.
That would be cruel... I feed them ham and roast pork first.
Nick.
p.s. Mention of ham, is for the benefit of Shortyfartblast...
Of course it isn't off topic.
G1LVN
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:08:54 -0800 (PST), G1LVN
>
> >I have a wide circle of family and friends Brian and many our
> >physcologists or at least have post grad education in social sciences
> >- not unlike myself.
>
> There is a difference, you know.
>
> 73 de Wlat
Not really, only in the severity and manifistation - I didn't want to
confuse Brian.
G1LVN
> Walt Davidson wrote:
> > On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:08:54 -0800 (PST), G1LVN
> > <gareth.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I have a wide circle of family and friends Brian and many our
> >> physcologists or at least have post grad education in social sciences
> >> - not unlike myself.
>
> > I thought we were discussing psychiatrists, 'LVN. Not psychologists.
> > There is a difference, you know.
>
> > 73 de Wlat
>
> Psychology is the lowest of the "ologies". After Maureen Lipman of BT fame.
I must let my professor friend know that. The one who studied it at
the LSE.
>
> "Social Sciences" are the refuge of those who can't study a proper subject.
>
Same could be said about any first degree. You don't really "study"
any subject in the majority of FE establishments these days (proper
universities excepted of course)
G1LVN
> "G1LVN" <gareth.pa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b6e8b138-3d5c-4399...@l2g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On 7 Nov, 11:34, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>
> > "G1LVN" <gareth.pa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e023a323-0fd0-4724...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > > A hell of a lot of shrinks (in my experience)
>
> > >Thank makes it appear you've had a lot of experience with "shrinks".
>
> >> Most people have probably never had cause to speak to one.
> >I have a wide circle of family and friends Brian and many our
> >physcologists or at least have post grad education in social sciences
> >- not unlike myself.
>
> "Shrinks" is not a reference to "physcologists" so experience of the latter
> does not equate to experience of "shrinks".
Pal, don't believe everything you read in wikipedia. Physciatrist,
Physcotheriapist - Surgeon, Doctor, trick cyclist. you pedantict idiot
>
> I still contend that most people don't have cause to seek the help of a
> "shrink" nor do I attach any social stigma to those that do.
>
You can contend what you like, it adds absolutely nothing to the
discussion.
> Nor do I believe that everyone who displays anti-social and disruptive
> behaviour has some mental problem. Some people are just not very nice
> people, they end up in unhappy situations (out of work, divorced, separated
> etc) and become even less socially acceptable. Why they start down this path
> has been debated for years, I reckon it generally stems from an unhappy
> childhood.
What a misguided and unhelpful opinion you have Brian. You are mixing
cause and effect and half of it's the wrong way round. Oh and throw a
bit of Freud in at the end to make it look as if you are not the
incredible bullshitting man afterall.
I'm off out now to stand in the rain and think about a few friends and
relations. I may even pop along to the service - I dare say there'll
be a few "muslems" in the congregation quite a few atheists, and
hopefully a shed load of agnostics.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
>I'm off out now to stand in the rain and think about a few friends and
>relations. I may even pop along to the service - I dare say there'll
>be a few "muslems" in the congregation quite a few atheists, and
>hopefully a shed load of agnostics.
what car boot sale are you going to ? .... I'm off to the Ayr race course
one... full of Muslims ........
G1LVN
> G1LVN wrote:
> >nowt wrong with the 5 Pillars of Islam, Closest most cristian's get to
> >it is giving up biscuits for lent. Pretty good way to run your life if
> >you ask me
>
> I didn't ask you...but seeing as how you mention it, Islam has a code
> that is as different from the Christian (note spelling and
> captilisation) ethos as it could be: mutilation and stoning to death,
You know bugger all about Islam mate. Bugger all about Christian
history and bugger all islamic law, crime and punishment.
> for example, as against a simple set of ten rules which, if you break
> them, you can be forgiven for.
>
The Ten commandments are not Christian they are Jewish matey. The
Bible's full of them - particulary proverbs. as is the Qur’an.
The Christian code is more simple. It's all about:
- Faith (in t'son, father and his holy spookiness)
- living a humble life (lent)
- Charity (giving to the needy, Christmas presents, Pudsey and all
that bollocks)
- Learning, Contemplation, Pilgrimage etc. (Lourdes, Santiago etc)
- oh and the power of prayer (includes fellowship etc)
There's five of them - you see where this is going.?... I hope.
A small minority of inbred hill billy muslims believe in a 6th Pillar
and I'm told a few Catholics (mainly) still believe in blowing up
police and civies alike at various places around the Christian world.
ETA, Taliban, PIRA - same f&ckers really mainly interested in land
power and politics.
Anyway church calls..:-).........
Spike
G1LVN wrote:
>On 7 Nov, 17:33, Spike <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> wrote:
>> G1LVN wrote:
>> >nowt wrong with the 5 Pillars of Islam, Closest most cristian's get to
>> >it is giving up biscuits for lent. Pretty good way to run your life if
>> >you ask me
>>
>> I didn't ask you...but seeing as how you mention it, Islam has a code
>> that is as different from the Christian (note spelling and
>> captilisation) ethos as it could be: mutilation and stoning to death,
>
>You know bugger all about Islam mate. Bugger all about Christian
>history and bugger all islamic law, crime and punishment.
An interesting opinion. Could you back it up with more facts than I
gave you?
>> for example, as against a simple set of ten rules which, if you break
>> them, you can be forgiven for.
>
>The Ten commandments are not Christian they are Jewish matey.
I wasn't discussing their origin, tosh, I was discussing their modus
operandi.
>The Bible's full of them - particulary proverbs. as is the Qur�an.
> The Christian code is more simple.
That's what I said....
>It's all about:
>
>- Faith (in t'son, father and his holy spookiness)
>- living a humble life (lent)
>- Charity (giving to the needy, Christmas presents, Pudsey and all
>that bollocks)
>- Learning, Contemplation, Pilgrimage etc. (Lourdes, Santiago etc)
>- oh and the power of prayer (includes fellowship etc)
>
>There's five of them - you see where this is going.?... I hope.
Do you have a point? Other than the three Abrahamic religions share
the same antecedent(s)?
>A small minority of inbred hill billy muslims believe in a 6th Pillar
>and I'm told a few Catholics (mainly) still believe in blowing up
>police and civies alike at various places around the Christian world.
>ETA, Taliban, PIRA - same f&ckers really mainly interested in land
>power and politics.
Something like 2000 people around the world were killed last month by
Muslims following the teachings of their holy book to 'smite them
wherever you find them; take their heads from their bodies' (or
whatever the exact phrase is).
I suspect the Christian score was rather less.
>Anyway church calls..:-).........
Peace be with you.
Ian Jackson
<Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> writes
>
>
>Peace be with you.
>
I've always felt that Muslims become extremists when they practise every
aspect of their teachings, while Christians become extremists when they
ignore theirs.
--
Ian
Brian Reay
>The Christian code is more simple. It's all about:
>- Faith (in t'son, father and his holy spookiness)
>- living a humble life (lent)
>- Charity (giving to the needy, Christmas presents, Pudsey and all
that bollocks)
>- Learning, Contemplation, Pilgrimage etc. (Lourdes, Santiago etc)
>- oh and the power of prayer (includes fellowship etc)
All of which have counterparts in Islam. In fact, some Moslems even believe
that Jesus is the son of God (to most he is, I think, a "messenger of God").
Islam is not fundamentally the restrictive, overbearing, religion which is
portrayed in the media. True, it is has been "driven" that way by some of
its leaders for their own ends but that happens in most religions.
One wonders if you've even actually spoken to a Moslem or visited a Moslem
country. I suspect not or, if you did, you didn't take the trouble to learn
anything.
Paul Starship
wrote:
>"G1LVN" <gareth...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:f36c3c49-9015-4228...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >The Christian code is more simple. It's all about:
>
>One wonders if you've even actually spoken to a Moslem or visited a Moslem
Careful Gareth, he's about to claim AUTHORITIVE KNOWLEDGE on the
subject.
>...................................... you didn't take the trouble to learn
>anything.
Said (ex)M3OSN who had twenty years to learn morse code but didnt take
the trouble to learn any of it.
Brian Reay
news:efPs2HBW...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
Both become extremists when someone hijacks their religion and uses it to
further their own twisted agenda.
Neither then require much of an excuse to kill even members of their own
overall religion, let alone one which has a few more differences.
It will be interesting to see what comes of this Ft Hood case. I've a
feeling this will come done to some bitter, angry, man with "issues" who has
used religion as an excuse.
Len GM0ONX
Squawk Morse test, Morse test! Squawk Pieces of eight!
Brian Reay
news:hd6f4f$iln$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
ROTFL!
Len GM0ONX
>
>
> Both become extremists when someone hijacks their religion and uses it to
> further their own twisted agenda.
>
A bit like some on this NG then, except it isn't religion!
Yeti
My mate Steve had a Muslim move in next door. The muslim bloke said
Steve's name offended him as it was very common in the US.
Steve agreed, as a mark of respect, to change his name by deed poll.
He's now called Chris P. Bacon.
Yeti
If you're still there you might bump into MM6AMA, she'll be there by now.
Yeti
> On 7 Nov, 17:33, Spike <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> wrote:
>> G1LVN wrote:
>>> nowt wrong with the 5 Pillars of Islam, Closest most cristian's get to
>>> it is giving up biscuits for lent. Pretty good way to run your life if
>>> you ask me
>> I didn't ask you...but seeing as how you mention it, Islam has a code
>> that is as different from the Christian (note spelling and
>> captilisation) ethos as it could be: mutilation and stoning to death,
>
> You know bugger all about Islam mate. Bugger all about Christian
> history and bugger all islamic law, crime and punishment.
>
>> for example, as against a simple set of ten rules which, if you break
>> them, you can be forgiven for.
>>
>
> The Ten commandments are not Christian they are Jewish matey. The
>
> The Christian code is more simple. It's all about:
>
> - Faith (in t'son, father and his holy spookiness)
> - living a humble life (lent)
> - Charity (giving to the needy, Christmas presents, Pudsey and all
> that bollocks)
> - Learning, Contemplation, Pilgrimage etc. (Lourdes, Santiago etc)
> - oh and the power of prayer (includes fellowship etc)
>
> There's five of them - you see where this is going.?... I hope.
>
> A small minority of inbred hill billy muslims believe in a 6th Pillar
> and I'm told a few Catholics (mainly) still believe in blowing up
> police and civies alike at various places around the Christian world.
> ETA, Taliban, PIRA - same f&ckers really mainly interested in land
> power and politics.
>
> Anyway church calls..:-).........
All religion is fictional bullshit. A way to 'control' the masses. Only
the atheists are truely free.
If you want a laugh, ask a Catholic librarian why the Bible is in the
non-fiction section.
Brian Reay
So true.
There are always those who feel "badly done to" by the world. They often go
on to stir up trouble and end up in a sorry state- out of work or unhappy in
their work, unemployable, in unhappy relationships (if they are even in a
relationship), etc. etc. Basically, just angry and bitter. They will, given
the chance, spin a tale of woe to explain why they've never quite made it,
even confabulate something they can use to suggest they have made it.
I recall someone (Walter Raleigh?) observing that most of the stirrers on
here seemed to be at the lower end of the employment ladder (assuming they
were employed), seemed not to have a happy family like etc. I think that is
pretty accurate. Makes you wonder just how people can live like that.
See you at the weekend?
Yeti
MUSLIM.
MUSLIM.
MUSLIM.
"Moslem"... away bile yer heid.
As for not being an overbearing religion - tell that to the 13 year old
girl that was stoned to death in Somalia for adultery, or the man who
was just given the same treatment - or his pregnant girlfriend, whom
they have spared, but only until she has her baby.
Yeti
NOW I get it.
Brian Reay
>
> All religion is fictional bullshit. A way to 'control' the masses.
I suggest you look up "Pascal's Wager".
>Only the atheists are truely free.
Freedom is state of mind. People have a right to hold their religion (or no
religion). Assuming you are right to the exclusion of all others in a
matter of faith (including by an atheist) is the ultimate arrogance.
Yeti
Yeah, but as an atheist, if the bible thumpers are right, God will
forgive me.
Yeti
> "Yeti" <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote in message
> news:hd6fqv$lia$5...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
>> All religion is fictional bullshit. A way to 'control' the masses.
>
> I suggest you look up "Pascal's Wager".
>
I prefer the Anti-Pascal wager myself. Which, along with common sense,
proves the Pascal Wager wrong.
"Suppose we grant that there is indeed some small chance that God
exists. Nevertheless, it could be said that you will lead a better,
fuller life if you bet on his not existing, than if you bet on his
existing and therefore squander your precious time on worshipping him,
sacrificing to him, fighting and dying for him, etc."
Len GM0ONX
Not deputising this week Gordon's doing his last visit as RM, which
reminds me I forgot to do my report. 100 lines again! Too busy with
planning stuff.
Someone told me there was a recession on but you wouldn't think with
number of planning enquiries for masts this month.
Len GM0ONX
Ian Jackson
<s...@website.invalid> writes
But "issues" is an odious, sibilant, overworked word. There's no need to
use inverted commas around it if you simply use the "correct"
alternative word instead.
--
Ian
Len GM0ONX
The 'Wee Frees' would do the same if they thought they'd get away with it!
Brian Reay
> MUSLIM.
>
> MUSLIM.
>
> MUSLIM.
>
> "Moslem"... away bile yer heid.
>
Moslem is an older, alternate, spelling. I believe the two came to use after
one of the early (even first) "split" in Islam. One was broadly "Persian"
(now Iran) and the other the rest). The Persian usage was Moslem but Muslim
is the more common. I simply used the less common spelling.
See, there is more to this than meets the eye.
The "splits" in Islam are not unlike the many splits in the Christian
church, Catholic (several versions), Protestant, and the many others who
have come along over the years. The Jews have similar sects, including one
which believes that Jesus was the Messiah.
EM87
EM87
Jeff
>
> MUSLIM.
>
> MUSLIM.
>
> MUSLIM.
>
> "Moslem"... away bile yer heid.
>
"Moslem" is a perfectly acceptable spelling of the word, in fact in my
dictionary "muslim" says "see moslem".
Jeff
G1LVN
> G1LVN wrote:
> >On 7 Nov, 17:33, Spike <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> wrote:
> >> G1LVN wrote:
> >> >nowt wrong with the 5 Pillars of Islam, Closest most cristian's get to
> >> >it is giving up biscuits for lent. Pretty good way to run your life if
> >> >you ask me
>
> >> I didn't ask you...but seeing as how you mention it, Islam has a code
> >> that is as different from the Christian (note spelling and
> >> captilisation) ethos as it could be: mutilation and stoning to death,
>
> >You know bugger all about Islam mate. Bugger all about Christian
> >history and bugger all islamic law, crime and punishment.
>
> An interesting opinion. Could you back it up with more facts than I
> gave you?
I know nothing about you apart from your posts on this NG. You seem
ignorant of the definition of the word ethos. That's a fact
>
> >> for example, as against a simple set of ten rules which, if you break
> >> them, you can be forgiven for.
>
> >The Ten commandments are not Christian they are Jewish matey.
>
> I wasn't discussing their origin, tosh, I was discussing their modus
> operandi.
>
Jesus Christ said nothing about the ten commandments as far as I am
aware. Actually he was opposed to many Jewish diotribes. That's kind
of why they crucified him (with a little help from a very clever
Scotsman)
> >The Bible's full of them - particulary proverbs. as is the Qur’an.
> > The Christian code is more simple.
>
> That's what I said....
No you didn't. You said the christian code (ethics actually) was
different to the 5 pillars of islam. It is in fact identical as I
demonstrated. (below)
>
> >It's all about:
>
> >- Faith (in t'son, father and his holy spookiness)
> >- living a humble life (lent)
> >- Charity (giving to the needy, Christmas presents, Pudsey and all
> >that bollocks)
> >- Learning, Contemplation, Pilgrimage etc. (Lourdes, Santiago etc)
> >- oh and the power of prayer (includes fellowship etc)
>
> >There's five of them - you see where this is going.?... I hope.
>
> Do you have a point? Other than the three Abrahamic religions share
> the same antecedent(s)?
Abraham was a nutter IMHO. Mixing up God with some kind of creator of
the universe was his biggest mistake.
>
> >A small minority of inbred hill billy muslims believe in a 6th Pillar
> >and I'm told a few Catholics (mainly) still believe in blowing up
> >police and civies alike at various places around the Christian world.
> >ETA, Taliban, PIRA - same f&ckers really mainly interested in land
> >power and politics.
>
> Something like 2000 people around the world were killed last month by
> Muslims following the teachings of their holy book to 'smite them
> wherever you find them; take their heads from their bodies' (or
> whatever the exact phrase is).
>
Go forth and multiply.
> I suspect the Christian score was rather less.
>
I'm not in the business of scoring point mate
> >Anyway church calls..:-).........
>
> Peace be with you.
Oh it is it is. You ought to try it.
G1LVN
wrote:
> In message <v97df59tmpftg8kqsd8f5k745dkj1i9...@4ax.com>, Spike
> <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> writes
>
>
>
> >Peace be with you.
>
> I've always felt that Muslims become extremists when they practise every
> aspect of their teachings, while Christians become extremists when they
> ignore theirs.
That's very good.
Paul Starship
wrote:
>ROTFL!
the guffaws of a teenage boy laughing at one of his pals in a school
playground...
Paul Starship
Paul Starship
wrote:
>I suggest you look up "Pascal's Wager".
my my.. thats the second time you've posted that in recent months.
must have been a section on the latest course youre doing ?
eh?
Len GM0ONX
sounding like a parrot! A parrot with a very small vocabulary.
Move on, there's more to Amateur radio than just Morse!
Len GM6JIC
G1LVN
> "G1LVN" <gareth.pa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f36c3c49-9015-4228...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >The Christian code is more simple. It's all about:
>
>
>
> >- Faith (in t'son, father and his holy spookiness)
> >- living a humble life (lent)
> >- Charity (giving to the needy, Christmas presents, Pudsey and all
> that bollocks)
> >- Learning, Contemplation, Pilgrimage etc. (Lourdes, Santiago etc)
> >- oh and the power of prayer (includes fellowship etc)
>
> that Jesus is the son of God (to most he is, I think, a "messenger of God").
We are all sons of God mate. Jesus was a prophet - current thinking*
is that the jesus myth was based on quite a large number of Jewish
seperatists and revolutionaries. The Romans and the Jews put an awful
lot of his like to death around about 2000 years ago.
*not just current. There is a famous quote from Pope Pious around
600AD which goes something like "What wealth this myth of Christianity
has brought us" depending on the translation. Can be taken a number of
ways I feel.
>
> Islam is not fundamentally the restrictive, overbearing, religion which is
> portrayed in the media. True, it is has been "driven" that way by some of
> its leaders for their own ends but that happens in most religions.
You can say that again. Actually it was driven by the west. Started in
Iran (what a f&ck up that was) repeated in Afghanistan when the
soviets invaded, resulted in a bunch of pampered yet highly restricted
Saudi youths rebelling is spectacular fashion. As usual us Brits have
to sort it all out with a large amount of US firepower.
>
> One wonders if you've even actually spoken to a Moslem or visited a Moslem
> country. I suspect not or, if you did, you didn't take the trouble to learn
> anything.
Not sure from the thread whether this is addressed to me, but I
confirm I've never spoken to a Moslem what ever they are.
I have, however, travelled extensively in Islamic countries - egypt,
tunisia, moroco, greater Manchester. And spent a great deal of time
with muslims and christians alike, doesn't take long for a
conversation to turn to religion I can tell you.
Ian Jackson
phonetic representations of words from a language which uses a non-Roman
script.
The 'British' spelling could vary a lot, depending on how we 'hear' the
foreign word. This could vary depending on the local accent of the
foreign language, and also on the accent of the British speaker (or
'hearer').
For example, if the foreign word sounded like 'mite', I would write
'mite' (or even 'might'), but a Cockney might hear it as (and write)
'mate'.
And then, in some areas where the foreign language is spoken, they might
pronounce the word more like 'meet'. Both the Cockney and I would hear
'meet', but I might write 'meet', and he might write 'meat'.
--
Ian
G1LVN
>
> Both become extremists when someone hijacks their religion and uses it to
> further their own twisted agenda.
>
> Neither then require much of an excuse to kill even members of their own
> overall religion, let alone one which has a few more differences.
>
> It will be interesting to see what comes of this Ft Hood case. I've a
> feeling this will come done to some bitter, angry, man with "issues" who has
> used religion as an excuse.
>
> 73
> Brian G8OSN/W8OSNwww.g8osn.net
You sir have the debating skills and knowledge of a teenage girl - you
should get out more. All that teenage angst is rubbing off on you
mate.
73deM0WWS AR K
G1LVN
> "Len GM0ONX" <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in messagenews:hd6f4f$iln$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Paul Starship wrote:
> >> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:30:12 -0000, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> "G1LVN" <gareth.pa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:f36c3c49-9015-4228...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>> The Christian code is more simple. It's all about:
> >>> Moslem
> >> subject.
>
> >>> learn anything.
> >> Said (ex)M3OSN who had twenty years to learn morse code but didnt take
> >> the trouble to learn any of it.
>
> > Squawk Morse test, Morse test! Squawk Pieces of eight!
>
>
> --
> 73
> Brian G8OSN/W8OSNwww.g8osn.net- Hide quoted text -
>
EMO !
Brian Reay
>Not sure from the thread whether this is addressed to me, but I
>confirm I've never spoken to a Moslem what ever they are.
Oh dear, another one who doesn't know as much as he thinks.
Such ignorance is the root of most strife.
Len GM0ONX
G1LVN
> G1LVN wrote:
> > On 7 Nov, 17:33, Spike <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> wrote:
> >> G1LVN wrote:
> >>> nowt wrong with the 5 Pillars of Islam, Closest most cristian's get to
> >>> it is giving up biscuits for lent. Pretty good way to run your life if
> >>> you ask me
> >> I didn't ask you...but seeing as how you mention it, Islam has a code
> >> that is as different from the Christian (note spelling and
> >> captilisation) ethos as it could be: mutilation and stoning to death,
>
> > You know bugger all about Islam mate. Bugger all about Christian
> > history and bugger all islamic law, crime and punishment.
>
> >> for example, as against a simple set of ten rules which, if you break
> >> them, you can be forgiven for.
>
> > The Ten commandments are not Christian they are Jewish matey. The
>
> > The Christian code is more simple. It's all about:
>
> > - Faith (in t'son, father and his holy spookiness)
> > - living a humble life (lent)
> > - Charity (giving to the needy, Christmas presents, Pudsey and all
> > that bollocks)
> > - Learning, Contemplation, Pilgrimage etc. (Lourdes, Santiago etc)
> > - oh and the power of prayer (includes fellowship etc)
>
> > There's five of them - you see where this is going.?... I hope.
>
> > A small minority of inbred hill billy muslims believe in a 6th Pillar
> > and I'm told a few Catholics (mainly) still believe in blowing up
> > police and civies alike at various places around the Christian world.
> > ETA, Taliban, PIRA - same f&ckers really mainly interested in land
> > power and politics.
>
> > Anyway church calls..:-).........
>
> All religion is fictional bullshit. A way to 'control' the masses. Only
> the atheists are truely free.
Atheists are just as bad.
Look up Agnosticin the dictonary. If you are prepared to have faith in
gravity and electromagetic radiation (both of which don't actually
exist in any real sense in our dimension) then why disbelieve in a
higher power not of the real world or dimension which links us all?
BTW I'm not talking about some old chap with a long white beard who
comes out at Christmas........
.....that's santa.
Brian Reay
"Paul Starship" <p.bl...@google-nospam-email.com> wrote in message
news:4af6d4c7...@news.albasani.net...
Your lack of education is showing.
Pascal contributed to many fields which, over the years, I've had reason to
study. This "Pascal's Wager" was something I learned somewhere along that
journey.
I assume you've not heard of Pascal's triangle or bothered to learn why the
unit of pressure is the Pascal. I suppose neither are required knowledge for
the non-technical like yourself.
G1LVN
> "Len GM0ONX" <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in messagenews:hd6fb7$iln$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > Brian Reay wrote:
>
> >> Both become extremists when someone hijacks their religion and uses it to
> >> further their own twisted agenda.
>
>
> So true.
>
> There are always those who feel "badly done to" by the world. They often go
> on to stir up trouble and end up in a sorry state- out of work or unhappy in
> their work, unemployable, in unhappy relationships (if they are even in a
> relationship), etc. etc. Basically, just angry and bitter. They will, given
> the chance, spin a tale of woe to explain why they've never quite made it,
> even confabulate something they can use to suggest they have made it.
best not look in the mirror then mate. I've never seen such a obvious
case of transference.
I'm not scoring points. I have a genuine concern for you, but you
won't sort it out on this NG. You won't believe it course and that's
to be expected. Truth is you must realise it for yourself. Others are
just their to point it out to you. There is something up with you
Brian believe me. Please get some help.
>
> I recall someone (Walter Raleigh?) observing that most of the stirrers on
> here seemed to be at the lower end of the employment ladder (assuming they
> were employed), seemed not to have a happy family like etc.
Oh dear, you lost your job???? My sister in law managed to keep a hold
or hers, mind you she is head of department at an independant school
where a large proportion of kids have very hard working (muslim)
parents who put their familiy before anything else.
Lot of kids were pulled out of my boys school - when your dad's a
lawyer, banker or architect and your mum does lunch this last year
must have been a nightmare. Luckily their school is very well run with
an excellant head who managed to keep it afloat. Fees went up (for
those who stayed) and teachers salaries went down. My wife and I are
lucky in that our chosen professions actually benefit when times are
bad. We've both been premoted recently.
If I can be of any assitance in your time of need, do hestitate ;-)
G1LVN
> Brian Reay wrote:
> > "G1LVN" <gareth.pa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:f36c3c49-9015-4228...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> >> - Faith (in t'son, father and his holy spookiness)
> >> - living a humble life (lent)
> >> - Charity (giving to the needy, Christmas presents, Pudsey and all
> > that bollocks)
> >> - Learning, Contemplation, Pilgrimage etc. (Lourdes, Santiago etc)
> >> - oh and the power of prayer (includes fellowship etc)
>
> > that Jesus is the son of God (to most he is, I think, a "messenger of God").
>
> > portrayed in the media. True, it is has been "driven" that way by some of
> > its leaders for their own ends but that happens in most religions.
>
> > anything.
>
> MUSLIM.
>
> MUSLIM.
>
> MUSLIM.
MUSLIM
MUSLIM
MUSLIM
RAWHIDE !
G1LVN
> "Yeti" <y...@ayrshore.com> wrote in message
Some one had Brian a dictionary turned to the word faith please.
Just as a matter of precedure. Before you can have faith you first of
all must believe. Agnostics believe and have faith. Atheists just
stick their fingers in their ears and go LA LA LA LA LA LA whatever
will be will be ! Bit like poor Mathematicians.
G1LVN
Does mate, not will. There is no afterlife and that's not where he
lives, well not for you anyway - maybe those you leave behind perhaps.
G1LVN
I sincerely hope things have moved on a bit since Pascal's time. It's
not about bets mate. It's about belief and faith. It's up to you to
find out what to believe though - once you've cracked that you can
start to practise a little faith (in yourself and others mainly).
G1LVN
> "Yeti" <y...@ayrshore.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hd6g37$lia$6...@news.eternal-september.org...
> > MUSLIM.
>
>
>
> > MUSLIM.
>
> > MUSLIM.
>
> > "Moslem"... away bile yer heid.
>
> Moslem is an older, alternate, spelling. I believe the two came to use after
> one of the early (even first) "split" in Islam. One was broadly "Persian"
> (now Iran) and the other the rest). The Persian usage was Moslem but Muslim
> is the more common. I simply used the less common spelling.
>
> See, there is more to this than meets the eye.
>
you know I was really looking forward to going to Rochdale. Knowing
you'll be there really puts a downer on things.
> The "splits" in Islam are not unlike the many splits in the Christian
> church, Catholic (several versions), Protestant, and the many others who
> have come along over the years. The Jews have similar sects, including one
> which believes that Jesus was the Messiah.
I wish I was stupid, must be nice to live one your simple planet
Brian.
Paul Starship
wrote:
>I recall someone (Walter Raleigh?) observing that most of the stirrers on
>here seemed to be at the lower end of the employment ladder (assuming they
hmmmm..are you sure that it wasbt you who made that observation ?
Paul Starship
wrote:
>
> "Paul Starship" <p.bl...@google-nospam-email.com> wrote in message
>news:4af6d4c7...@news.albasani.net...
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:15:51 -0000, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I suggest you look up "Pascal's Wager".
>>
>> my my.. thats the second time you've posted that in recent months.
>>
>>
>> must have been a section on the latest course youre doing ?
>> eh?
>
>Your lack of education is showing.
and your lack of ability at making a little bit of effort has been
showing since at least 1994.
>
>Pascal contributed to many fields which, over the years, I've had reason to
>study. This "Pascal's Wager" was something I learned somewhere along that
its a big pity that you didnt make an effort to expand your horizons
in the hf area many years ago... instead you sat of your backside
whinging.
>
>I assume you've not heard of Pascal's triangle or bothered to learn why the
Oh i know that.
>unit of pressure is the Pascal. I suppose neither are required knowledge for
oh i know that too.
>the non-technical like yourself.
WRONG - so wrong... your ignorance shows again.
G1LVN
> "G1LVN" <gareth.pa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1f49d414-99ec-4d78...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> >Not sure from the thread whether this is addressed to me, but I
>
> >confirm I've never spoken to a Moslem what ever they are.
>
> Oh dear, another one who doesn't know as much as he thinks.
>
Takes one to know one matey. Haven't you got some marking to do or
leather patches to sew on? The kiddies are back tomorrow and their
parents have paid good money for your limited services to education.
Paul Starship
wrote:
>There are always those who feel "badly done to" by the world. They often go
>on to stir up trouble and end up in a sorry state- out of work or unhappy in
badly done by ???
you were howling and whing about a simple morse test back in 1994
and when an m3 was about to be given hf access before you - you got
even worse.
BADLY DONE BY ???
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From: "Brian Reay" <brian...@bigYYYY.com>
Subject: Re: FULL DETAILS OF NEW LICENCE PROPOSALS ON RA SITE
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 19:58:32 +0100
The new announced is totally irrational and, at last, finally exposes
the nonsense of the morse requirement. A Foundation Licensee could no
way learn morse to 5wpm (as well as the other material) in a weekend
BUT he will be let loose on HF. A far better qualified B licensee is
denied access because morse is required for HF access!
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Laugh? I nearly joined the RSGB.
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI
news:hd6fb7$iln$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Brian Reay wrote:
>>
>>
>> Both become extremists when someone hijacks their religion and uses it to
>> further their own twisted agenda.
>>
>
> A bit like some on this NG then, except it isn't religion!
There seem to be some to whom this NG _IS_ a religion.
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73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
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http://turner-smith.co.uk
DieSea
"Yeti" <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote in message
news:hd6gdk$lia$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Brian Reay wrote:
>> "Yeti" <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote in message
>> >
>>> All religion is fictional bullshit. A way to 'control' the masses.
>>
>>
>>
>> Freedom is state of mind. People have a right to hold their religion (or no
>> religion). Assuming you are right to the exclusion of all others in a matter
>> of faith (including by an atheist) is the ultimate arrogance.
>>
>> --
>> 73
>> Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
>> www.g8osn.net
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, but as an atheist, if the bible thumpers are right, God will forgive me.
Wot about _brian_ then ??
He's going to have a hard time there !!
;-)
DieSea
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> It will be interesting to see what comes of this Ft Hood case. I've a
> feeling this will come done to some bitter, angry, man with "issues" who
> has used religion as an excuse.
>
or sombody quite happy to take the money and stay in the USA but didn't want
to go and perhaps have to defend himself against fellow Muslims .......
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
"Len GM0ONX" <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
news:hd6fb7$iln$3...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Brian Reay wrote:
>>
>>
>> Both become extremists when someone hijacks their religion and uses it to
>> further their own twisted agenda.
>>
>
> A bit like some on this NG then, except it isn't religion!
speak for yourself ........
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.radio.amateur/about
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> I recall someone (Walter Raleigh?) observing that most of the stirrers on
> here seemed to be at the lower end of the employment ladder (assuming they
> were employed), seemed not to have a happy family like etc. I think that
> is pretty accurate. Makes you wonder just how people can live like that.
>
> See you at the weekend?
>
You shouldn't let brian talk about you like that Len.........
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
bad. We've both been premoted recently.
You can get help for that these days ..........
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> All of which have counterparts in Islam. In fact, some Moslems even
> believe that Jesus is the son of God (to most he is, I think, a "messenger
> of God").
>
Moslem ? ... is that a follower of Mosley ? ........
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> Squawk Morse test, Morse test! Squawk Pieces of eight!
you are good at that...brian will laugh! .........
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> As for not being an overbearing religion - tell that to the 13 year old
> girl that was stoned to death in Somalia for adultery, or the man who was
> just given the same treatment - or his pregnant girlfriend, whom they have
> spared, but only until she has her baby.
brian would say they deserved what they got ........
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
"Jeff" <je...@local.host> wrote in message news:hd6ir4$9kv$1...@aioe.org...
>
>>
>> MUSLIM.
>>
>> MUSLIM.
>>
>> MUSLIM.
>>
>> "Moslem"... away bile yer heid.
>>
>
> dictionary "muslim" says "see moslem".
>
> Jeff
>
I got it under "mad fuzzy wuzzie" .......