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Brian Reay

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"Walt Davidson" <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8390985.stm
>
> Shocking!

Indeed it is. One of the schools in the merge had a terrible reputation
while the other had quite a good one. The idea it seems to have been that
one would moderate / help the other.

The statement about other schools in Medway is very misleading- some schools
have such problems but far from all of them or even a majority.

There was a lot of controversy over the merge but the plan went ahead. Some
people are very "anti" academies. I'm not, although I agree they are a
"political construction" intended as much as anything to make it look like
something "big" is being done. Huge sums of money are poured into the
academies which I'm not convinced is always wisely spent and the underlying
issues are not simply related to a lack of money.

> (Isn't this in Brian's area?)

Not that far off but not my school.

--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.net


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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> 73
> Brian G8OSN/M3OSN
> www.m3osn.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
a lot of Brians MM3/2M0s.... some that I know ....went to approved
schools.......


luc...@eternal-flames.gov

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On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:28:25 GMT, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..."
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>a lot of Brians MM3/2M0s.... some that I know ....went to approved
>schools.......

Yes... But apart from the odd few state school peasants,
surely we're mostly ex public school on here?

Nick.

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well I went to a fee paying Grammar school ....which is now the worst school
in Paisley...full of pure scumbags......


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Brian Reay

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"Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> >
> well I went to a fee paying Grammar school ....

Is that the same as a Grammar school for those who didn't pass the 11 plus
but whose parents had money?

When did the 11 plus get scrapped in your area?

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Brian Howie

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I was in the same year as Lara Croft at Gordonstoun.

DIJ
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Ian Jackson

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> It's uk.radio.amateur, not uk.amateur.radio. We're
>radio amateurs discussing, well, whatever we damned well feel like.

Yup. Just like CB (and 80m).
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no idea...


Ian Jackson

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In message <hf6il4$8nk$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Chronos
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>Ian Jackson wrote:
>
>> Yup. Just like CB (and 80m).
>
>If it were 80m, Ian, we'd be comparing illnesses. My knees have been aching
>like buggery with this cold snap.

Sorry to hear that. Still, at our age, you have to expect this sort of
thing.

> How's your back this week? :o)

Well, it's more my neck than my back. I've been hoisting a long wire
aerial into a tree*, and all that looking upwards sets it off. But the
piles have been fine for years.
*On-topic bit.
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Ian

Jimbo ...

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> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>> >
>> well I went to a fee paying Grammar school ....
>
> Is that the same as a Grammar school for those who didn't pass the 11 plus
> but whose parents had money?

well they must have made a mistake with me then..I was brought up in a
rented top floor tenement flat....could be that is why I detest conceited
people like the big farmer born with a silver spoon in their mouth ......

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=seedhill+road+paisley&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=10.937413,28.081055&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Seedhill+Rd,+Paisley,+Renfrewshire+PA1,+United+Kingdom&ll=55.842964,-4.40908&spn=0,359.972577&z=15&layer=c&cbll=55.842989,-4.409258&panoid=b1AK_J8VdFYwx6T3r-zxYg&cbp=12,147.75,,0,-0.07


Brian Reay

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"Jimbo ..." <jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> "Brian Reay" <s...@website.com> wrote in message
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>> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:bbzRm.11067$Ym4....@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> >
>>> well I went to a fee paying Grammar school ....
>>
>> Is that the same as a Grammar school for those who didn't pass the 11
>> plus but whose parents had money?
>
> well they must have made a mistake with me then..I was brought up in a
> rented top floor tenement flat....could be that is why I detest conceited
> people like the big farmer born with a silver spoon in their mouth ......

It probably explains the chip on your shoulder. Spending you life resenting
the fact that others had some "advantage" you didn't is pretty pointless and
will do no more than make you bitter. We are all dealt a hand of cards in
life, it is up to you how you play them.

Paul Starship

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On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:49:15 +0000, Walt Davidson
<g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8390985.stm

well then...just coat everyones face with engineers blue and let them
out into the school yard.

at end of breaktime inspect everyones knuckles.


anyone with blue stains on the knuckles gets detention.

if someone gets caught three times, they automatically get an M3
licence.

Paul Starship

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is it just me or has the level of acceptabel language in use on 80m
gone down in recent years ???

Jimbo ...

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I had cause to visit the flat a couple of years ago when the chimneyhead
fell through the roof in a storm......I had to evacuate the residents with
the aid of a big polis....funny how small the flat looked...........


Paul Starship

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On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:55:32 -0000, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.com>
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>It probably explains the chip on your shoulder. Spending you life resenting
>the fact that others had some "advantage" you didn't is pretty pointless and

said M3-howl-whinge-moan-OSN.

Len GM0ONX

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The old boys on 1.933MHz can get a bit risky as well. So much for the
old convention about not talking about politics or religion on the air too.

Len GM0ONX

Jimbo ...

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naw I just think people born into money of any kind should be humble, modest
rather than arrogant, conceted blowhards........don't you? .....and the Big
Farmer will have a Merc for status but I have then because they are easy to
work on and parts are cheap.......


Jimbo ...

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yip pretty big chip wanting HF and having to lower himself to an M3 just to
get on HF .........must have been killing him for years the advantage we had
!!!!


Jimbo ...

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fuck yes .......


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>>
>>
> naw I just think people born into money of any kind should be humble,
> modest rather than arrogant, conceted blowhards........don't you? ....

I tend not think I've a right to tell others how they should be. To do so
would be arrogant and conceted.


>and the Big Farmer will have a Merc for status but I have then because they
>are easy to work on and parts are cheap.......

How do you know why he drives a Merc? As for the price of spares, a friend
has just had part of the wiper mechanism break on his Merc. Some gear box
bit. �800 to fix it. Doesn't sound cheap to me.

I've nothing against Mercs but they aren't my car of choice.


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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10 years owning a 190e tells me a different story

I'm sure you would prefer a car with a rubber band connecting two parts of
the injin together ......


Paul Starship

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On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:46:01 GMT, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..."
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>I'm sure you would prefer a car with a rubber band connecting two parts of
>the injin together ......


__TWO__ rubber bands Jombo... __TWO__


luc...@eternal-flames.gov

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>I'm sure you would prefer a car with a rubber band connecting two parts of
>the injin together ......

That'd be the DAF.

'Variomatic Transmission' they called it.

Yeti

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Chronos wrote:
> Conor wrote:
>
>> Off topic in uk.r.a.
>
> Since uk.r.a predates the current uk.* hierarchy, perhaps you'd be so kind
> as to point us to the charter that backs up your statement?
>
> No? Then shut up, please. It's uk.radio.amateur, not uk.amateur.radio. We're
> radio amateurs [1] discussing, well, whatever we damned well feel like. Try
> going over to uk.rec.sheds and spouting the same nonsense...
>
> [1] Well, some of us: My own GW0VNR is a third-rate A class callsign, by
> dint of being one of the first of the QSO format 12WPM tests which a half-
> trained, dyslexic monkey could pass - and did, before any of you lot start,
> first time with no errors - with a fifth-rate operator and seventh-rate
> equipment located in an eleventh-rate country. So not really, but note that
> all of my ratings are primes, which I'm quite proud of.

When did Wales gets promoted to 11th rate? :P

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> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:46:01 GMT
> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> 10 years owning a 190e tells me a different story
>
> The parts are cheap because you have an *old* Merc Jim. If it were a
> new one you'd be paying through the nose in the same way that nearly
> all modern cars force you to.
>
naw...just check europarts etc .......


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>naw I just think people born into money of any kind should be humble, modest

Just like me, you mean?

Yeti

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Brian Reay wrote:
> "Jimbo ..." <jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>> and the Big Farmer will have a Merc for status but I have then because

>> they are easy to work on and parts are cheap.......
>
> How do you know why he drives a Merc? As for the price of spares, a
> friend has just had part of the wiper mechanism break on his Merc. Some
> gear box bit. �800 to fix it. Doesn't sound cheap to me.
>
> I've nothing against Mercs but they aren't my car of choice.
>

�800 from Mercedes - �25 from a scrappy.

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Yeti

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Chronos wrote:

> Yeti wrote:
>
>>> [1] Well, some of us: My own GW0VNR is a third-rate A class callsign, by
>>> dint of being one of the first of the QSO format 12WPM tests which a
>>> half- trained, dyslexic monkey could pass - and did, before any of you
>>> lot start, first time with no errors - with a fifth-rate operator and
>>> seventh-rate equipment located in an eleventh-rate country. So not
>>> really, but note that all of my ratings are primes, which I'm quite proud
>>> of.
>> When did Wales gets promoted to 11th rate? :P
>
> When I moved here. I had a special arrangement with Nick in which he got the
> Velcro gloves and wide welly top mob immediately and I got a nice, peaceful
> neighbourhood :o)
>
> By the way, has anyone else seen the Welsh beef advert? "Welsh beef. From
> Wales." Well thanks a bunch, Captain Obvious. Apart from the fact that it
> has only been shown a pre-heated oven for the briefest of moments and a good
> vet with a defibrillator would have it grazing the fields in short order,
> where the chuff else would it be from? More to the point, the advantage of
> that is...?

A guy's doing a PhD in sheep shagging. He goes off touring Britain
finding out how people do it in different areas. First he goes up to
Aberdeen. He goes into a pub, buys a drink, and asks the barman where he
can find the sheep shaggers. The barman points to the darkest, dingiest
corner of the pub.

So he goes over to this corner and gets talking to the guys there. Once
there he says:

* Actually I'm doing a thesis on sheep shagging, so could you tell me,
how do you do it around here?
* Well we put on wellies, go into a field, and we grab a sheep. Then we
shove its hind legs down into the wellies so it can't get away, and shag it.

Next he goes down to Cumbria and goes into a pub in Keswick. He asks the
barman where the local sheep shaggers hang out, and he points to the
darkest, dingiest corner. So he goes over to the corner, and asks the guys:

* Excuse me but I'm doing a thesis on sheep shagging, so would you mind
telling me, how do you do it around here?
* Well we put on wellies and go out into a field looking for sheep. When
we find a sheep we shove its hind legs down into the wellies, then shag it.

He then decides to see what they do in Wales, so he takes a trip to
Aberystwyth. There he finds a dodgy looking pub, and asks the barman
where he can find the local sheep shaggers. Once again, the barman
points to the darkest, dingiest corner of the pub. So he goes over and asks:

* Excuse me, I'm doing a thesis on sheep shagging. Could you tell me how
you do it in this area?
* Well, bach, we go out into a field looking for sheep. When we find one
we grab it around the waist, hold it as tight as possible so it won't
get away, and shag it.
* But, why don't you just shove its hind legs down inside your wellies?
Wouldn't that be easier?
* What, no kissing?!

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Steve Terry

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Some Nissan Micras also had CVT, and all current European Quad microcars

Steve Terry
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Steve Terry

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You mean he waited for Ofcom to deal him a better hand?

Steve Terry

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"Chronos" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Ian Jackson wrote:
>
>> Yup. Just like CB (and 80m).
>
> If it were 80m, Ian, we'd be comparing illnesses. My knees have been
> aching
> like buggery with this cold snap. How's your back this week? :o)
> Chronos
>
>
I'm glad you didn't put a comma after "aching"
or your posting could have had a hole different meaning ;-)

Steve Terry

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> Yeti wrote:
<snip>

> By the way, has anyone else seen the Welsh beef advert? "Welsh beef. From
> Wales." Well thanks a bunch, Captain Obvious. Apart from the fact that it
> has only been shown a pre-heated oven for the briefest of moments and a
> good
> vet with a defibrillator would have it grazing the fields in short order,
> where the chuff else would it be from? More to the point, the advantage of
> that is...?
> Chronos
>
>
Makes sense, you have to make a public info film suitable for the
intelligence
of the audience, and as you said it's Welsh

Yeti

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And Fiat Unos, Pandas, Ford Fiestas... HORRIBLE system.

Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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luc...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:28:25 GMT, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..."
> <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> a lot of Brian's MM3/2M0s.... some that I know ....went to approved
>> schools.......
>
> Yes... But apart from the odd few state school peasants,
> surely we're mostly ex public school on here?
>
> Nick.

I was sent to a state paedophile ring ^H^H^H grammar sKool as punishment
for passing the 11+. One of my primary sKool classmates failed the 11+
and went to the local sec mod, he is now a Chartered Accountant and
reckons failing the 11+ was one of the best things that ever happened to
him.
--
;-)
..
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
..
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Steve Terry

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> Steve Terry wrote:
>> <luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
>> news:o1pdh59pl7agvg0gm...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:46:01 GMT, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..."
>>> <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm sure you would prefer a car with a rubber band connecting two parts
>>>> of
>>>> the injin together ......
>>> That'd be the DAF.
>>>
>>> 'Variomatic Transmission' they called it.
>>>
>> Some Nissan Micras also had CVT, and all current European Quad microcars
>> Steve Terry
>
> And Fiat Unos, Pandas, Ford Fiestas... HORRIBLE system.
>
>
But they can go as fast backwards as forwards, the noise of the belts
and having to replace them regularly is off-putting

Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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> "Paul Starship" <p.bl...@google-nospam-email.com> wrote in message
> news:4b16d59d...@news.albasani.net...
>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:55:32 -0000, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>It probably explains the chip on your shoulder. Spending you life
>>>resenting
>>>the fact that others had some "advantage" you didn't is pretty pointless
>>>and
>>
>> said M3-howl-whinge-moan-OSN.
>>
>>
> You mean he waited for Ofcom to deal him a better hand?
>
> Steve Terry

I think he did you know....but that is brian all over does one thing and
preaches another ...


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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or free from my parts car...


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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em ............perhaps


Ian Jackson

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???????????????????????????????????????????
You sure?
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Yeti

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Certain.

The Fiat Selecta CVT gearbox was used in them all. Horrible to drive.

Catweazel

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> news:RuARm.42427$Xc2....@newsfe24.ams2...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Jimbo ..." <jim.gm4...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >news:hf6jrg$dif$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >> "Brian Reay" <s...@website.com> wrote in message
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>
> >>> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:bbzRm.11067$Ym4....@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>
> >>>> well I went to a fee paying Grammar school ....
>
> >>> Is that the same as a Grammar school for those who didn't pass the 11
> >>> plus but whose parents had money?
>
> >> well they must have made a mistake with me then..I was brought up in a
> >> rented top floor tenement flat....could be that is why I detest conceited
> >> people like the big farmer born with a silver spoon in their mouth ......

>
> > It probably explains the chip on your shoulder.  Spending you life
> > resenting the fact that others had some "advantage" you didn't is pretty
> > pointless and will do no  more than make you bitter. We are all dealt a
> > hand of cards in life, it is up to you how you play them.

>
> naw I just think people born into money of any kind should be humble, modest
> rather than arrogant, conceted blowhards........don't you? .....
some are, some aren't - I've met one or two very well off fellas over
the years who meet the humble/ modest standards you mentioned.

>and the Big Farmer will have a Merc for status but I have then because they are easy to
> work on and parts are cheap.

You'll never change these guys Jim, but - and you may be surprised at
this - you can change yourself.

Ian Jackson

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In message <hf7v6v$ccu$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Yeti
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I don't know about Fiats, but Fiestas? Come on! Certainly not the ones I
drove.
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Brian Morrison

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Ian Jackson wrote:

>> The Fiat Selecta CVT gearbox was used in them all. Horrible to drive.
>
> I don't know about Fiats, but Fiestas? Come on! Certainly not the ones I
> drove.

I remember the Top Gear (before Clarkson and co took over) test of the
Fiesta CVT. The presenter driving it demonstrated that it was not
possible to move off when unladen other than the driver if parked on a
1:4 hill. I don't know what engine size it was but the gearbox used a
steel-link belt as opposed to the original DAF Variomatic gearbox which
used a rubber/cloth belt.

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Brian Morrison

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Some insurers insist on using manufacturer's original parts.....

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A set of filters for my (now long deceased) 207 van was a lot cheaper
from the mercedes dealer than generic filters from parts suppliers.

Brian Morrison

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Yes, sometimes the unexpected happens.

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Len GM0ONX

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Maybe with there own repairs but I've never heard it being quoted elsewhere.

Brian Morrison

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Dec 3, 2009, 9:30:27 AM12/3/09
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Len GM0ONX wrote:

>> Some insurers insist on using manufacturer's original parts.....
>>
>
> Maybe with there own repairs but I've never heard it being quoted elsewhere.

That's what I meant, so you end up paying inflated insurance premiums
because any claims you make cause the cost of rectification to be much
higher.

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Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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>You'll never change these guys Jim, but - and you may be surprised at
>this - you can change yourself.

And why would I want to? ....


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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which they are OEM ........


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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> Brian Morrison wrote:
>
>> That's what I meant, so you end up paying inflated insurance premiums
>> because any claims you make cause the cost of rectification to be much
>> higher.
>
> So that's why my 3 series (320i) cost an arm and a leg to insure. I did
> wonder, because it certainly wasn't based on any sort of performance,
> piece
> of German junk.

Get rid of it BMW are for evil people..........


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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> The Fiat Selecta CVT gearbox was used in them all. Horrible to drive.

just the job for wumin ..........


Brian Morrison

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Jimbo GM4DHJ ... wrote:
> "Brian Morrison" <scra...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:hf89b4$4bk$1...@localhost.localdomain...
>> Jimbo GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> "Brian Morrison" <b...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:20091202223...@peterson.fenrir.org.uk...
>>>> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:46:01 GMT
>>>> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 10 years owning a 190e tells me a different story
>>>> The parts are cheap because you have an *old* Merc Jim. If it were a
>>>> new one you'd be paying through the nose in the same way that nearly
>>>> all modern cars force you to.
>>>>
>>> naw...just check europarts etc .......
>> Some insurers insist on using manufacturer's original parts.....
>>
> which they are OEM ........

Yes, but some insurers insist that they are purchased through the
repairer who does the work and they often simply buy through the local
dealer for the manufacturer.

Some time ago my previous car (Vauxhall) was involved in a minor shunt
and ended up being repaired at the place specified by my insurer. That
was actually the local Mercedes-Benz dealer. They bought the parts at
the local Vauxhall dealer at trade price and then added their own,
higher, MErcedes-Benz margins on to this, so the cost of repair was much
higher than it would otherwise have been. Better still, since they
weren't experienced in the particular repair needed, they had to employ
a Vauxhall bod for a day to show them how to do it!

Crazy or what?

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Yeti

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Dec 3, 2009, 12:07:41 PM12/3/09
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Bullshit.

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Paul Starship

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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:24:07 GMT, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..."
<jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>http://www.youtube.com/user/Deltahoteljapan#p/f


hows your rhythm ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li8Hiwbc664


Brian Morrison

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Chronos wrote:

> It does, however, have an elastic band driving the cam, diesel pump, PAS and
> vacuum for the servo. Hate that idea :o(

Just make sure you replace it regularly and it should be fine.

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Brian Morrison

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Dec 3, 2009, 12:51:19 PM12/3/09
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Yeti wrote:
>> Some insurers insist on using manufacturer's original parts.....
>
> Bullshit.

Well oddly I had the exact discussion with mine about 8 or 9 years ago
because I couldn't believe what their requirements were for a repair
done to my previous car. I ended up with Vauxhall-supplied parts being
fitted to a Vauxhall at a Mercedes-Benz garage, this garage had to
borrow a Vauxhall-dealer employee because they didn't have the
information or tools to do part of the repair.

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Yeti

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Yeah, if they're repairing it as part of an insurance claim - the
discussion was, I believe, about routine replacement of parts.

Example - I had a mate who had his car seized for no insurance. It was
insured, so the police tried to cover their backside by claiming the
insurance was void because he hadn't declared a bunch of
'modifications'. Both myself and the insurance companies rep in court
explained that the 'modified' parts were fitted as no OEM parts were
available at a reasonable price or timescale. The insurers were happy
to cover it as it was, and the case was kicked out of court, leaving
the cops with egg on their face and 10 months storage charges at the
recovery company to pay for.

The weird one with repairs being done by the insurer is they can
invalidate your warranty with the manufacturer - a bodywork repair,
for example, can end up being done by a specialist tied to the
insurers, instead of the main dealer - this leaving your precious anti-
corrosion warranty worth absolutely sod all.

Yeti

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On Dec 3, 6:36 pm, Chronos <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> Oh, and just for the record, QH belts are crap. Gates or Continental only on
> my car.
> --

Agreed - Gates are by far the best.

I had a belt shear it's teeth on my last VW LT35 van - but thankfully
it was the pump belt, with is on the back of the engine, and only
drives the injection pump off the cam - the front belt had been done,
but not the back one.

The belts on my current LT50 were done about 15 months/2000 miles ago.

Yeti

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On Dec 3, 6:18 pm, Walt Davidson <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:28:24 GMT, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..."

>
> <jim.gm4...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >Get rid of it BMW are for evil people..........
>
> How dare you!
>
> :-(
>
> 73 de Wlat
>
> --
> Walt Davidson                               Email: g3nyy @despammed.com

BMW dealer parts are surprisingly cheap though.

Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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but the point is why should he have to when he can buy a car with a duplex
chain......


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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"Walt Davidson" <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:28:24 GMT, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..."
> <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>Get rid of it BMW are for evil people..........
>
> How dare you!
>
> :-(
>
> 73 de Wlat
>
SHOCKING! but true .......


Brian Morrison

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Because, like my car, despite having a duplex chain cam drive and being
properly lubricated, the chain and associated parts had to be replaced
less than 1,000 miles over the warranty mileage limit due to excessive
wear. The manufacturer contributed 33% of the cost as they admitted that
it shouldn't have done that, but as a part known to wear they couldn't
pay for all of it as some wear was expected. The service manual does not
specify a chain replacement mileage or period.

Belts are often no good, chains are often no good either. Welcome to the
wonderful world of motoring.

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"Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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I look at cars with the following in mind ....no cam belt ....no aircon
.....no sunroof.....no spacesaver spare.....my merc c180 ticks all those
boxes....but is still not up to standard for a merc......


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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> Jimbo GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>> .
>> -
>> "Brian Morrison" <scra...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:hf8tsr$j79$1...@localhost.localdomain...
>>> Chronos wrote:
>>>
>>>> It does, however, have an elastic band driving the cam, diesel pump,
>>>> PAS
>>>> and
>>>> vacuum for the servo. Hate that idea :o(
>>> Just make sure you replace it regularly and it should be fine.
>>>
>> but the point is why should he have to when he can buy a car with a
>> duplex
>> chain......
>
> Because, like my car, despite having a duplex chain cam drive and being
> properly lubricated, the chain and associated parts had to be replaced
> less than 1,000 miles over the warranty mileage limit due to excessive
> wear. The manufacturer contributed 33% of the cost as they admitted that
> it shouldn't have done that, but as a part known to wear they couldn't
> pay for all of it as some wear was expected. The service manual does not
> specify a chain replacement mileage or period.

I bought my 190e at 100k and it still won't die after another 100k by me
over the last 10 years...how much have I saved on cambelts? .......


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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and worry waiting for a belt to go TWANG rattle rattle rattle as the valves
bounce off the pistons.........


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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>The belts on my current LT50 were done about 15 months/2000 miles ago.

I want an LT50 campervan ........


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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> or free from my parts car...
>
>
I once said to yeti I was glad I wasn't a mechanic...he went into a bad
mood.......


Paul Starship

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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:55:41 GMT, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..."
<jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>I once said to yeti I was glad I wasn't a mechanic...he went into a bad
>mood.......

You ? putting someone in a bad mood ??


HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN ?

Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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SHOCKING! ....... think he took it as a put down which it wasn't.....I just
hate working on cars...just do it to save dosh .........


Yeti

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On Dec 3, 7:40 pm, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >The belts on my current LT50 were done about 15 months/2000 miles ago.
>
> I want an LT50  campervan ........

I'm building an LT35 campervan just now....

Yeti

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On Dec 3, 8:03 pm, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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I hate working on them too - you have good days and bad days -
yesterday was a bad day, today was a good day.

Yeti

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On Dec 3, 7:23 pm, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> .
> -"Brian Morrison" <scraps...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message

Chains break too.

Corsa C 3 cylinder
VW Sharan V6

both known for breaking REALLY early

Skoda 1.3 - rattles after around 35-40K, only cure is replacement - 3
hours labour, £19 in parts for chain and both sprockets.

Saab 9-3, 9-5, 9000 chain wears excessively, rattles, expensive parts
to repair

Also, chains make doing the cylinder head a major pain in the ass.

I replaced a chain on a Corolla about 18 months ago due to stretch - I
don't remember how long it took me, but I do remember not finishing
until around 10pm!

Paul Starship

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On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:18:23 +0000, Walt Davidson
<g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:28:24 GMT, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..."
><jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>Get rid of it BMW are for evil people..........
>
>How dare you!


hey hey hey... calm down...

breath in.... breath out....breath in.... breath out....

heres a picture for you...
http://www.southdublinradioclub.ie/photosite/photo-2003/best-animal.html

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I hate my job these days as well.....three months to go...woo hoo ......what
a way to end a career.....but there has never been a better time to get
out...


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you are...how cool......


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nice pussy ........


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Yeti

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On Dec 3, 8:39 pm, Chronos <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> Yeti wrote:
> > I hate working on them too - you have good days and bad days -
> > yesterday was a bad day, today was a good day.
>
> Careful of the good days. They're only there to lull you into a false sense
> of security. I see a Renault Clio RT in your future ;o)
> --
> Chronos

I have a can of petrol and a blowtorch for such occasions.

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