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2m0-sil

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Aug 13, 2011, 12:28:53 PM8/13/11
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i recently purchased a yaesu yd-844 mike.
it sounds superb on my ft-847 with very natural audio on ssb.
it also looks the part too.
the problem is very low audio on fm due to the high impedence of 50k ohm.
after having a look on the net i discovered an a-model of the mike with switchable impedence of 500 ohms and 50k ohms.
so my question is would it be easy enough to make this mike dual impedence.
thanks.
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Brian Reay.

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Aug 13, 2011, 1:01:11 PM8/13/11
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"2m0-sil" <jon...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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I think your problem is really that you need a 500 ohm mic and have a 50k
one, you wouldn't normally change the impedance as you changed mode. A
couple of options spring to mind. A transformer or a buffer amplifier, with
a high Z input and a lo-Z output.

I've just looked on the web and Yaesu used a transformer. Maplin do one,
but is it "cased"

http://www.maplin.co.uk/microphone-transformer-xlr-to-1-4-mono-plug-12151

Not cheap and you'd have to extract the transformer and mount it in the 844
case.

You can probably get a transformer elsewhere, you need a 100:1
transformation. Such things are common enough in the audio world so a bit
of digging should find something and probably for less that the Maplin
offering. However, it may come down to convenience.

An electronic solution is the other option, perhaps as simple as an emitter
follower may do it, if the current input is dragging the mic output down due
to the source impedance. I'd recommend the transformer approach, why
re-invent the wheel.

These days, unless you've some older radios about, I'm not sure I'd worry
about having it dual impedance. The 844 seems to be FT101 vintage.

--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.net


2m0-sil

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Aug 13, 2011, 4:20:30 PM8/13/11
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thanks chronos and brian.
not as straightforward as i had hoped but oh well.
shame really but the mike will stay as i love the retro lines and they certainly knew how to put mikes together back in the day.
im going to put together a ptt box for my md-1.
i purchased the microphone but not the main body and i dont think the little on-off switch on the mike will stand up to repeated use so a seperate ptt box is in order.

Jeff

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Aug 14, 2011, 4:52:04 AM8/14/11
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Mode should have no implications on mic performance, if there is a
problem on FM them there will be a problem on SSB (unless you are
talking about using it on a different radio).

What radio are you trying to use this mic on?

Jeff


GM4DHJ/M....

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Aug 14, 2011, 5:41:49 AM8/14/11
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In the early 80's when I was looking for 500 ohm hand mics for CBs I used to
go up to RME in howard street and buy 50k hand mics and throw away the
transformers......


2m0-sil

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Aug 14, 2011, 6:36:53 AM8/14/11
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its a yaesu ft 847 jeff.
good reports on ssb--but low audio on fm.

joe jbn

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Aug 14, 2011, 6:52:17 AM8/14/11
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RADIO IS FT-847 EARTH STATION , YES I HAVE HEARD THE MIC IN QUESTION ,
THE SSB AUDIO IS MINTED BUT ON FM IT'S RATHER LOW OUT , STILL NATURAL
SOUNDING BUT REALLY LOW VOLUME WISE

Jeff

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Aug 14, 2011, 8:23:43 AM8/14/11
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On 14/08/2011 11:36, 2m0-sil wrote:
> its a yaesu ft 847 jeff.
> good reports on ssb--but low audio on fm.

It seems unlikely that you can have sufficient mic gain for full output
on ssb, but too little on FM. Does that radio have separate settings for
mic gain on ssb and ssb?


Jeff

Jeff

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Aug 14, 2011, 8:25:28 AM8/14/11
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>> Jeff
>
> RADIO IS FT-847 EARTH STATION ,

What is an "EARTH STATION"?


YES I HAVE HEARD THE MIC IN QUESTION ,
> THE SSB AUDIO IS MINTED

and what does "MINTED" mean? (rounded but with a hole some where perhaps)

Jeff

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2m0-sil

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Aug 14, 2011, 8:57:17 AM8/14/11
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no the mike gain controls audio for all modes.
when replaced by the stock mike everythings fine.
minted is glaswegian for excellent jeff.

Jeff

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Aug 14, 2011, 9:13:10 AM8/14/11
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A very quick look on the web shows that Menu 25, FM-p-set, controls the
FM mic gain. (page 86 in the manual)

Jeff

2m0-sil

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Aug 14, 2011, 9:44:10 AM8/14/11
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lol--just shows how long its been since i looked at the manual.
will try that-thanks again jeff.

GM4DHJ/M....

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Aug 14, 2011, 9:47:35 AM8/14/11
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"2m0-sil" <jon...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> lol--just shows how long its been since i looked at the manual.
> will try that-thanks again jeff.

ha ha .......


2m0-sil

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Aug 14, 2011, 10:54:58 AM8/14/11
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what
have you never had a senior moment jimbo.

Satans Rat

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Aug 14, 2011, 10:57:42 AM8/14/11
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So what you are in fact suggesting is that your
rigs mic input impedance changes depending upon
operating mode.

Pillock !

joe jbn

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Aug 14, 2011, 1:32:28 PM8/14/11
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like my good comrad suggested the minted part means most excellent and
earth station , means THAT'S WIT IT SAYS ON THE BOX they call them
earth stations because it does sat-alight communication.....DOPPLER
SHIFT 2VFOS UHF UP AND VHF DOWN ECT ECT ECT.......

joe jbn

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Aug 14, 2011, 1:34:29 PM8/14/11
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On Aug 14, 2:44 pm, 2m0-sil <jonc...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> lol--just shows how long its been since i looked at the manual.
> will try that-thanks again jeff.

JIMBO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET TORE INTO HIM..........

2m0-sil

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Aug 14, 2011, 6:00:46 PM8/14/11
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cheers.

2m0-sil

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Aug 14, 2011, 6:09:52 PM8/14/11
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satans rat--more like roland rat.
carrier of vermin.

jim stewart

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Aug 15, 2011, 3:23:38 PM8/15/11
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"joe jbn" <jbre...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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what with him a trainer as well ? .........wouldn't dare......anyway I never
read manuals myself .....


2m0-sil

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Aug 15, 2011, 3:49:13 PM8/15/11
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good shout jimbo.

jim stewart

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Aug 15, 2011, 3:58:13 PM8/15/11
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"2m0-sil" <jon...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> good shout jimbo.

minted ma man.....


mm6jbn/p

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Aug 16, 2011, 4:33:46 AM8/16/11
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On Aug 15, 8:23 pm, "jim stewart" <james.stewart...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
> "joe jbn" <jbree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Manuals are where you go after the button doesn't do like it should
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