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Mike Hunt

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:15:35 AM12/20/09
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What year was the current locator system introduced (IO81**) etc, and
why was it changed from the old system (YN etc.)?

Ta....

Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:19:06 AM12/20/09
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"Mike Hunt" <imac...@baldsheep.com> wrote in message
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> What year was the current locator system introduced (IO81**) etc, and why
> was it changed from the old system (YN etc.)?
>
> Ta....

progress? ...ha ha


Richard G3CWI

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:41:22 AM12/20/09
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Thought you were an internet expert...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead_Locator_System

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Mike Hunt

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:51:15 AM12/20/09
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Richard G3CWI wrote:
> Mike Hunt wrote:
>> What year was the current locator system introduced (IO81**) etc, and
>> why was it changed from the old system (YN etc.)?
>>
>> Ta....
>
> Thought you were an internet expert...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead_Locator_System
>
Richard, you really are an arsehole, I wouldnt piss on you if you were
on fire, sarcastic twat.

The weather is perfect for you to piss off up one of your hills, dont
hurry back.

A simple link would have sufficed

Richard G3CWI

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Dec 20, 2009, 8:02:50 AM12/20/09
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Mike Hunt wrote:

> A simple link would have sufficed

Always pleased to assist. A simple thank you would have sufficed.

Mike Hunt

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Dec 20, 2009, 8:11:41 AM12/20/09
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Richard G3CWI wrote:
> Mike Hunt wrote:
>
>> A simple link would have sufficed
>
> Always pleased to assist. A simple thank you would have sufficed.
>
I see you have placed a reasonable warning at the *bottom* of your ad
sites main page.

Fair enough.

It should be at the *top* or would that clash with you poxy adverts.

mm0fmf

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Dec 20, 2009, 8:51:23 AM12/20/09
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It was devised by G4ANB and adopted by VHF managers at a meeting in
Maidenhead in 1980, hence the name Maidenhead locator.

Why? Well the old QRA locator system was more awkward to use to
calculate distances. Also it only covered part of Europe. To cover the
whole world you had to repeat the system and it meant a QRA locator did
not specify a unique location unless you knew the callsign as well to
give context. As VHF distances worked continued to grow the old system
was showing its limitations especially as 6m operation increased.

Andy

Mike Hunt

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Dec 20, 2009, 9:51:58 AM12/20/09
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Many thanks Andy, I didnt realise about the duplication of locators, as
you say with 6m intercontinental working is common, it could be quite
confusing.

Paul Starship

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Dec 20, 2009, 3:16:41 PM12/20/09
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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 13:51:23 +0000, mm0fmf <us...@example.net> wrote:

>It was devised by G4ANB and adopted by VHF managers at a meeting in
>Maidenhead in 1980, hence the name Maidenhead locator.

many UK ops were still using the old system in 1985

Brian Howie

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Dec 20, 2009, 4:20:16 PM12/20/09
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In message <jSqXm.44533$IZ1....@newsfe19.ams2>, Mike Hunt
<imac...@baldsheep.com> writes

There is a bit of commonality the big squares cover the same area
eg IO85 == YP , but the extra digits allow world wide coverage.

Also you can go to 8 or even 10 characters for the precision required
for microwaves e.g. IO85IW66 .This wasn't possible with the old one.

Brian GM4DIJ YP04c

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Richard G3CWI

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Dec 20, 2009, 6:59:04 PM12/20/09
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Paul Starship wrote:

> many UK ops were still using the old system in 1985
>
>
>

Not surprising. Many ops still use valves. Amateur radio attracts those
with a penchant for the out-of-date.

4CX250K

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:02:29 PM12/20/09
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Richard G3CWI wrote:
> Paul Starship wrote:
>
>> many UK ops were still using the old system in 1985
>>
>>
>>
> Not surprising. Many ops still use valves. Amateur radio attracts those
> with a penchant for the out-of-date.
>
From the man with a dead mans call.....

4CX250K

Brian Reay

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:25:49 AM12/21/09
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"4CX250K" <OC...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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From a "man" hiding behind a false ID, that is pretty rich.

Richard has done a lot to enhance the hobby, he doesn't deserve abuse from
the likes of you.


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:43:32 AM12/21/09
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no no .....I think you have done the most to "enhance" the hobby .......CWI
is just getting a bit grumpy recently.......think he has a cold....


Spike

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:23:09 AM12/21/09
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Richard G3CWI wrote:

>Paul Starship wrote:
>
>> many UK ops were still using the old system in 1985
>
>Not surprising. Many ops still use valves. Amateur radio attracts those
>with a penchant for the out-of-date.

Including calls-signs, it would seem.

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3-500Z

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:08:07 AM12/21/09
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Most people know who I am. I would agree that he has done a lot to
promote amateur radio whereas you have done your best to dumb down the
'obby.....

3-500Z

Len GM0ONX

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:29:55 AM12/21/09
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What's it like to be famous? Most people haven't clue who I am and even
less care!

Len GM0ONX

Brian Reay

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:51:19 AM12/21/09
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"Len GM0ONX" <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
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> 3-500Z wrote:
>>>
>> Most people know who I am. I would agree that he has done a lot to
>> promote amateur radio whereas you have done your best to dumb down the
>> 'obby.....
>>
>> 3-500Z
>
> What's it like to be famous? Most people haven't clue who I am and even
> less care!

Do you not think it is the height of arrogance for him to assume that 'most
people know' who he is? A legend in his own mind?

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Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
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3-500Z

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:55:10 AM12/21/09
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I'm probably more infamous than famous.....


3-500Z

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3-500Z

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Dec 21, 2009, 7:39:29 AM12/21/09
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Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:25:59 +0000, Hils <hi...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:

>
>> Jimbo GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> no no .....I think you have done the most to "enhance" the hobby .......CWI
>>> is just getting a bit grumpy recently.......think he has a cold....
>> Or his chalfonts are playing up.
>
> ITYM "chilblains". Chalfont is a place in Buckinghamshire!
>
> 73 de Wlat
>
http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/slang/chalfonts_st_giles

3-500Z

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Yeti

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Dec 21, 2009, 9:53:21 AM12/21/09
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Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:25:59 +0000, Hils <hi...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Jimbo GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> no no .....I think you have done the most to "enhance" the hobby .......CWI
>>> is just getting a bit grumpy recently.......think he has a cold....
>> Or his chalfonts are playing up.
>
> ITYM "chilblains". Chalfont is a place in Buckinghamshire!
>
> 73 de Wlat
>

It's also the name of a house in the ultra-posh bit of Troon. You know,
one of those bits where they refuse to use a number - and then complain
when it takes a taxi half an hour to find them.

Len GM0ONX

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Dec 21, 2009, 11:17:56 AM12/21/09
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And the nameplate is 2" wide!

Jimbo ...

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:03:51 PM12/21/09
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> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:39:29 +0000, 3-500Z <OC...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> ITYM "chilblains". Chalfont is a place in Buckinghamshire!
>>>
>>> 73 de Wlat
>>>
>>http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/slang/chalfonts_st_giles
>
> ROTFL!
>
> I hadn't heard that one before.
>
> 73 de Wlat
>

sairby! ..........


Jimbo ...

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:05:02 PM12/21/09
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> It's also the name of a house in the ultra-posh bit of Troon. You know,
> one of those bits where they refuse to use a number - and then complain
> when it takes a taxi half an hour to find them.

I hate houses without numbers..........


Jimbo ...

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:07:49 PM12/21/09
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"3-500Z" <OC...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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who are you ? ....... furkle shunky ? .......


Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:33:21 PM12/21/09
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I hate numbers without houses.

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Paul Starship

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:50:57 PM12/21/09
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On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:59:04 +0000, Richard G3CWI <g3...@tesco.net>
wrote:

>Not surprising. Many ops still use valves. Amateur radio attracts those
>with a penchant for the out-of-date.

remind me again which mode you use when out on a hilltop ?

:-)


and your answer would therefore imply that those who do not have a
'penchant' for that mode are not as amateur radio-ish as you ?

Paul Starship

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:51:31 PM12/21/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:25:49 -0000, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.com>
wrote:

>From a "man" hiding behind a false ID, that is pretty rich.
>
>Richard has done a lot to enhance the hobby, he doesn't deserve abuse from
>the likes of you.

said ex-m3-howl-whinge-moan-write-letters-osn.

Paul Starship

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:52:55 PM12/21/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:57:15 +0000, Walt Davidson
<g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>I hadn't heard that one before.

see?

even with _two_ (_three_??) degrees and _three_ pensions...
one can still learn things in amateur radio

:-)

Ian Jackson

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:53:16 PM12/21/09
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In message <hgnqa1$thf$1...@news.albasani.net>, 3-500Z <OC...@yahoo.co.uk>
writes
Unfortunately, there are three of them - C St. Peter, Little C, and C
St. something which rhymes with haemorrhoids. What about of a 'dose of
the farmers' instead?
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Paul Starship

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Dec 21, 2009, 2:53:30 PM12/21/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:08:07 +0000, 3-500Z <OC...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Most people know who I am. I would agree that he has done a lot to
>promote amateur radio whereas you have done your best to dumb down the
>'obby.....

Bona!

Paul Starship

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:05:34 PM12/21/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:51:19 -0000, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.com>
wrote:

>Do you not think it is the height of arrogance for him to assume that 'most

>people know' who he is? A legend in his own mind?

Nah... the height of ignorance is describing someone as an advanced
b-licence just because they 'passed' a no-fail morse farce assessment
that a certain M1*** dog could do.

Paul Starship

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:08:49 PM12/21/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:53:16 +0000, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>St. something which rhymes with haemorrhoids. What about of a 'dose of
>the farmers' instead?


'farmer giles'

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Ian Jackson

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:22:28 PM12/21/09
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In message <4b2fd5c7...@news.albasani.net>, Paul Starship
<p.bl...@google-nospam-email.com> writes
He's yer man. As I've often said (from personal experience), your
Chalfonts (or farmers) can be quite serious, and are not to be sniffed
at.
--
Ian

Paul Starship

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:29:11 PM12/21/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:16:12 +0000, Brian Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:

>I don't think M1AOW will be impressed at being labelled such!

Nope... the M1's words were...


QUOTE

My dog could do it, so where is the problem?

ENDQUOTE

Paul Starship

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:36:16 PM12/21/09
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:22:28 +0000, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Chalfonts (or farmers) can be quite serious, and are not to be sniffed
>at.

I'll give you an HER-UMPH to that.


but yes... the 'farmers' can end up requiring surgery.

Ian Jackson

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:41:28 PM12/21/09
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In message <4b2fdbcb...@news.albasani.net>, Paul Starship
<p.bl...@google-nospam-email.com> writes
A bag of frozen peas (loosened up) or a tapered ice cube can bring
short-term relief (honest).
--
Ian

DieSea

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Dec 21, 2009, 3:57:56 PM12/21/09
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"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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BUT

Young Emma Royd a different kettle of fish ??
;-))

DieSea


Len GM0ONX

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Dec 21, 2009, 5:20:59 PM12/21/09
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Yeh, but that dog shows you up all the time!

Steve Terry

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:29:01 AM12/22/09
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"3-500Z" <OC...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Nice place, also one of the few places where the edible dormouse
which was introduced by the Romans can be found

Steve Terry
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Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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"Steve Terry" <gfou...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "3-500Z" <OC...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hgnqa1$thf$1...@news.albasani.net...
>> Walt Davidson wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:25:59 +0000, Hils <hi...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jimbo GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>> no no .....I think you have done the most to "enhance" the hobby
>>>>> .......CWI is just getting a bit grumpy recently.......think he has a
>>>>> cold....
>>>> Or his chalfonts are playing up.
>>>
>>> ITYM "chilblains". Chalfont is a place in Buckinghamshire!
>>> 73 de Wlat
>>>
>> http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/slang/chalfonts_st_giles
>>
>>
> Nice place, also one of the few places where the edible dormouse
> which was introduced by the Romans can be found
>
> Steve Terry

also where "Crusher" came from .....


@uk.radio.amateur Van Ausfahrt

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"Brian Reay" <s...@website.com> wrote in message
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> "4CX250K" <OC...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hgmdum$qhv$1...@news.albasani.net...
>> Richard G3CWI wrote:
>>> Paul Starship wrote:
>>>
>>>> many UK ops were still using the old system in 1985
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Not surprising. Many ops still use valves. Amateur radio attracts those
>>> with a penchant for the out-of-date.
>>>
>> From the man with a dead mans call.....
>
> From a "man" hiding behind a false ID, that is pretty rich.
>
> Richard has done a lot to enhance the hobby

That's more than can be said for you and the RSGB!


3-500Z

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Dec 22, 2009, 8:59:04 AM12/22/09
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Jimbo ... wrote:

>
> who are you ? .......

My name is of little importance...


Eric Mole

Paul Starship

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:10:36 PM12/22/09
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:29:01 -0000, "Steve Terry" <gfou...@tesco.net>
wrote:

>Nice place, also one of the few places where the edible dormouse
>which was introduced by the Romans can be found

be thou careful.

thou needst a licence to handle a dormouse in the wild.


Dan Morse of Four Feather Falls

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Feb 13, 2010, 12:30:37 PM2/13/10
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> Richard has done a lot to enhance the hobby, he doesn't deserve abuse from
> the likes of you.
>
is it ok if i have a go at richard then?


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