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Today I am in the near of Prestwick (nowhere near Glasgow) Airport....

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Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:15:52 AM11/8/09
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what a dump...looks the way glasgow airport looked in 1976 when I started
looking after alterations and extensions there for the kooncil........Glad I
am flying from the REAL Glasgow airport week after next on a quality airline
not with the likes of Ryanair...............


Yeti

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:21:59 AM11/8/09
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You mean Paisley Airport? Last I checked there was no airport in Glasgow :P

Len GM0ONX

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:36:29 AM11/8/09
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Have you ever used Southampton Airport, now there is a dump! They last
time I flew out of there the Jetstream just about removed the roof of
the Transit factory. It used less than half the runway length and judged
it a bit fine. Forget a Ferrari for acceleration.

Len GM0ONX

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:39:15 AM11/8/09
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If you really want to annoy them give its original name Abbotsinch Airport.

Mr. Benn

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:17:33 AM11/8/09
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"Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote in
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How interesting <K>

MM6ARG

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:34:35 AM11/8/09
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On 8 Nov, 14:17, "Mr. Benn" <%...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4...@googlemail.com> wrote innews:hd6geu$u5d$1...@news.eternal-september.org:

>
> > what a dump...looks the way glasgow airport looked in 1976 when I
> > started looking after alterations and extensions there for the
> > kooncil........Glad I am flying from the REAL Glasgow airport week
> > after next on a quality airline not with the likes of
> > Ryanair...............
>
> How interesting <K>

Has anyone been to 'London' Stansted Airport? Now thats a model for
all 'new' airports, you go in at the front and fly out the back -
though not literally! Well laid out, in my opinion of course.
The prefix of 'London' is a 'laugh' as Stansted is about 25 or so
miles 'as the crow, or in this case, plane flies - so to speak. I
think that Prestwick airport should stand alone as Prestwick, as
indeed Stansted or any similar location airport should do.
There, that's my first saop box entry toi this group.

Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:04:01 AM11/8/09
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i thought so...now in largs after a long qso with yeti...quality......


Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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"Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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in largs now sitting at the front eating an ice cream..........tee hee how
off topic can you get........sun shining ....quality man


G1LVN

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:39:43 AM11/8/09
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Ryanair isn't all that bad as long as your luggage has been sent on
ahead and you've got a map and a full tank of fuel at the other end to
get you to where that say you are flying to in the first place. Their
planes and pilots are up to spec which is the main thing.

Egyptair on the otherhand...... It's onething to allow you to smoke on
the back row, but out of the window???

G1LVN

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:41:56 AM11/8/09
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But you can be in liverpool street quicker than if you get the tube
from Heathrow shirely? Same for Gatwick. Unless they've changed things
recently.

Yeti

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:55:16 AM11/8/09
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G1LVN wrote:

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> Ryanair ......Their


> planes and pilots are up to spec which is the main thing.

Planes, aye.

Pilots? Not in my experience - had about one good landing with them -
everything else seemed to be 'slap it down quick' style.

One landing (at Prestwick, in a heavy crosswind and rain) was so far off
that we were over 1/3rd of the way up the runway before touching down,
and when we did I could see the centre line out of the left side of the
plane.

I heard the pilot tell the tower on the radio that he "needs new
underpants".

Yeti

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:59:07 AM11/8/09
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Never been to either of them - got the bus from Luton to Stansted on the
way back from Bulgaria once. Stansted seems well set up. Luton's not bad
either.

Every airport seems nicely laid out once you've been through
Sofia/Varna/Bourgas - I've been in houses with a bigger living room than
the check in area at those airports.

Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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you mean "Robert the Bruce Airport" ? ..........


Yeti

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:17:06 PM11/8/09
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Can't call it that - all the yanks think Robert the Bruce was a traitor.

Smeato International?

Jimbo GM4DHJ ...

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cool ......


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Paul Starship

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:32:58 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:17:06 +0000, Yeti <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:

>Can't call it that - all the yanks think Robert the Bruce was a traitor.
>
>Smeato International?

Under the 4-letter id scheme,
Edinburgh and Glasgow are EGPF/EGPH or maybe EGPH/EGPF

Do you know why those letters were chosen ? (coz I'm curious)

Yeti

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:39:25 PM11/8/09
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Brian Morrison wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:55:16 +0000
> Yeti <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
>
>> One landing (at Prestwick, in a heavy crosswind and rain) was so far off
>> that we were over 1/3rd of the way up the runway before touching down,
>> and when we did I could see the centre line out of the left side of the
>> plane.
>>
>> I heard the pilot tell the tower on the radio that he "needs new
>> underpants".
>
> Stop yer whinin'! You were able to walk away from the aircraft weren't
> you, so it was a good landing.
>

It was a great landing - they could even reuse the plane!

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Jim

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:36:04 PM11/8/09
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Probably because in the days when air traffic messages were sent
by teleprinter, relayed from Prestwick, which used to EGPP, the
Scottish airfields were all EGPx, just as all of ATCC Preston's
(Barton Hall) location indicators were EGNx.

Although that scheme was abandoned long ago, some of the old
location indicators stuck.

--

Jim, G4RGA

Yeti

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:54:48 PM11/8/09
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Brian Morrison wrote:

> No idea why Glasgow airport gets an F,

Customer service.

Yeti

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:55:56 PM11/8/09
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How come it got changed to EGPK then?

Paul Starship

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:30:15 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:34:41 +0000, Brian Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk>
wrote:

>No idea why Glasgow airport gets an F, I suppose it could be because
>someone worked their way round the map and allocated them in sequence.

i've been told that some of the uk 2-letter endings actually made
sense but as you suggest the P + F for Glasgow,Edinburgh hasnt
surfaced yet.


>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_ICAO_code:_E#EG_-_United_Kingdom_.28and_British_Crown_dependencies.29
will have a look.

>
>if any sequence makes sense.
hmmmmmm, i doubt it but its worth a try to see which ones do fit.

luc...@eternal-flames.gov

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:30:04 AM11/9/09
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He's right you know.

Nick.

G1LVN

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:40:09 AM11/9/09
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On 8 Nov, 15:55, Yeti <y...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
> G1LVN wrote:
>
> > Ryanair ......Their
> > planes and pilots are up to spec which is the main thing.
>
> Planes, aye.
>
> Pilots? Not in my experience - had about one good landing with them -
> everything else seemed to be 'slap it down quick' style.
>
> One landing (at Prestwick, in a heavy crosswind and rain) was so far off
> that we were over 1/3rd of the way up the runway before touching down,
> and when we did I could see the centre line out of the left side of the
> plane.
>

Actually come to think of it my last flight into Vigo was a little
harsh (it is a very small strip though). First time I've heard a slow
handclap from the various EU nationals on board. People seemed a
little more hesitant to rip off their belts and start routing around
in the overhead lockers on that flight too. Actually I think it was
Santander rather than Vigo.


Jim GM4DHJ ...

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Nov 9, 2009, 11:57:48 AM11/9/09
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"G1LVN" <gareth...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Is Radio Vigo still in the little shack with the big mast up in the hills
above the town ? ....... remember seeing it in '66 .......


Jim

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:06:17 PM11/9/09
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Possibly EGPP is the LI for the North Atlantic OACC? My copy
of the ICAO list is well out-of-date.

No idea why it changed. It probably only used EGPP for comms purposes
just as Preston used EGOO for comms and EGOx for some connected airfields.
Some of the airfields connected to Preston still retain the EGOx 'prefix'
just like some Prestwick-connected ones still retain EGPx. It matters
little nowadays with computer message switching, the second two letters
are of no particular significance.

--

Jim, G4RGA

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