Icom IC-M5 Marine Handheld tranceiver
k
to involve bad-mouthing nutters on some kind of inane campaign to restrict
radio licencing opportunities to people who can be bothered to learn morse
code. A technical query on the ICOM IC-M5 handheld transceiver.....
The LCD display had 'blacked out' and although basic transceiver
functionality is unimpaired, it's pretty hopeless trying to use the txcvr
with no display. I am pretty certain that the LCD module has failed and
needs replacement, but I suspect that kind of work is beyond my soldering
capabilities. Any idea what cost exposure I might be looking at if I put
this in for professional repair? Given the relatively low cost of modern
marine handhelds, it's hard to justify much more that £50 to resurrect an
aged handie, much though I like these old clumsy dogs and they do have a
certain character.
Any comments advice appreciated.....Keith
messenger !
You better watch out for loads of worthless wisdom coming over the
horizon !
know code
Yada yada yada...... this is uk.radio.amateur not uk.radio.marine or
whatever.... wrong group! Who is the nutter now?
Three Cheers for PC Fuller!
Is this LCD connected to the main board by a poor fitting rubberish block
that is just a pressure fitting between the lcd and the pcb? Try
repositioning it.
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huLLy
Tel: 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925
messenger !
MattD..
Sunday 26 Feb 2006 20:17, the following appeared on stdout:
> Is this LCD connected to the main board by a poor fitting rubberish
> block
It's commonly called the elastomer, Tox. It's a very common cause of
LCDs in portable devices going titsup. Nokia dealers will tell you all
about them, especially the old 51xx range.
Try not to touch the contact edges of the thing. Definitely do not
attempt to clean it with any solvent whatsoever.
--
Radio glossary #47
Common sense: The most uncommon thing of all.
Three Cheers for PC Fuller!
> After replacing Three Cheers for PC Fuller! with a small shell script
> on Sunday 26 Feb 2006 20:17, the following appeared on stdout:
>
>> Is this LCD connected to the main board by a poor fitting rubberish
>> block
>
> It's commonly called the elastomer, Tox. It's a very common cause of
> LCDs in portable devices going titsup. Nokia dealers will tell you all
> about them, especially the old 51xx range.
>
> Try not to touch the contact edges of the thing. Definitely do not
> attempt to clean it with any solvent whatsoever.
That's the work I was struggling so hard for, Brian ;)
Three Cheers for PC Fuller!
Word, even. Tired tonight. Flew up to Prestwick for a curry in the Rupee
Room in Ayr, overnight stay in the Fairfield. Flew from Stansted for 1p each
way, even managed to avoid parking charges by leaving the car in the control
tower compound. Was a good weekend!
Brian Reay
"k" <posei...@madasafish.com> wrote in message
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When you say "blacked out" so you mean the display just doesn't work (ie no
display but still the dull LCD dull grey/green) or has is gone black - ie
all the display is the colour of a normal active LCD segment?
If the former, a number of faults are possible- including the elastomer that
someone else has mentioned if it is an elastomer connection. Personally,
I've found using cleaning these with distilled water can work. Having said
that, dirt on the elastomer is only one possibility. I'd do a visual check
for dry joints and crude before getting to involved in stripping it down.
If the display is "black" then the LCD display has sprung a leak and needs
replacing.
--
73
Brian
www.g8osn.org.uk
k
"Three Cheers for PC Fuller!" <s...@f2s.com> wrote in message
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case yet, so I'm not sure if it's a simple 'fix' like you suggest. I had
assumed the LCD display was a typical multi-pinned unit soldered to main
board and seriously challenging for desoldering and replacing. I'll check it
out shortly....thanks....Keith
MattD..
> That's the work I was struggling so hard for, Brian ;)
Nice try, Tox :-D
--
Radio glossary #30
RadCom: Otherwise known as the Waters and Stanton catalogue.
k
<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:09:08 -0000, "k" <posei...@madasafish.com>
> wrote:
>
> >it's hard to justify much more that £50 to resurrect an
> >aged handie, much though I like these old clumsy dogs and they do have a
> >certain character.
> >
> >Any comments advice appreciated.....Keith
>
> it on the bench for £50.
>
> Nick.
>
Thanks Nick - yes, I think you may well be correct, but I have an irrational
resistance to scrapping any devices that are repairable at reasonable cost.
Messesnger and 3 Cheers suggest that it may be a simple failure of the
attachment elastomer for the display where it fits to the main board, so
I'll open 'er up and check that before submitting to an overpriced
commercial job.....Keith
know code
> Know code was first to give some worthless wisdom :-)
I suppose you're the type of person who goes into the bank and asks for
a burger and fries?
Ask your question in the relevant newsgroup and I'll give a relevant answer!
Three Cheers for PC Fuller!
> After replacing Three Cheers for PC Fuller! with a small shell script
> on Sunday 26 Feb 2006 20:31, the following appeared on stdout:
>
>> That's the work I was struggling so hard for, Brian ;)
>
> Nice try, Tox :-D
Blimey, I've finally got MaddT lol
MattD..
> Blimey, I've finally got MaddT lol
It's a fair cop...
--
Radio glossary #55
Long wire: The original state of the power cable to your radio,
which is now 3" long.
Three Cheers for PC Fuller!
> After replacing Three Cheers for PC Fuller! with a small shell script
> on Sunday 26 Feb 2006 21:19, the following appeared on stdout:
>
>> Blimey, I've finally got MaddT lol
>
> It's a fair cop...
Lol, wish that was Gareth saying that
k
"Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
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> Yes, unfortunately it's the latter, so I think it's maybe terminal and not
just a bad attachment.....
> If the former, a number of faults are possible- including the elastomer
that
> someone else has mentioned if it is an elastomer connection. Personally,
> I've found using cleaning these with distilled water can work. Having
said
> that, dirt on the elastomer is only one possibility. I'd do a visual check
> for dry joints and crude before getting to involved in stripping it down.
>
> If the display is "black" then the LCD display has sprung a leak and needs
> replacing.
>
> --
> 73
> Brian
> www.g8osn.org.uk
>
> Thanks Brian - yes it looks like the LCD has leaked - very similar to the
screen on my Psion when I crushed it between the car door and drivers seat!
(Yuk). If it's a replacement thats needed, I suspect that the costs of a
replacement unit from ICOM will consign the device to the bucket....Keith
k
whats involved in getting the LCD unit out, I'm deeply out of my depth. The
LCD unit lies below 3 pcbs which are interconnected with 2 flimsy ribbon
connectors and the back of the LCD board is smothered in densely packed
surface mountned passives and beside the main microprocessor. Just too
complicated for me and access to remove the damaged LCD unit is far too
restricted and fiddly. I'm sure it'll cost £hundreds to have it done
professionally, so it will join the large pile of marine communication
devices, video sounders, SSB txcvrs etc in my workshop that are well beyond
economic repair.....Keith
Dave
> Flew up to Prestwick
Does that airfield still suffer from horizontal rain then?
Last time I was up there, I stayed at the Marine Hotel on the Troon golf
coarse. Breakfasted looking out to sea to see Royal Navy ships criss
crossing the lines out in the bay and golfers bowed to 45 degrees trying
to move round the coarse. :-)
Dave
Robin
> Thanks to those who reponded - having now dismantled the unit and looked
> at
> whats involved in getting the LCD unit out, I'm deeply out of my depth.
> The
> LCD unit lies below 3 pcbs which are interconnected with 2 flimsy ribbon
> connectors and the back of the LCD board is smothered in densely packed
> surface mountned passives and beside the main microprocessor. Just too
> complicated for me and access to remove the damaged LCD unit is far too
> restricted and fiddly. I'm sure it'll cost £hundreds to have it done
> professionally, so it will join the large pile of marine communication
> devices, video sounders, SSB txcvrs etc in my workshop that are well
> beyond
> economic repair.....Keith
is there a contrast adjustment in one of the menu's? if so a full reset
might set it back to default.. there is a possibility that the ram that
holds the settings has been corrupted and the memory location now contains 0
or 16 or whatever corresponds to all ON.
Robib
k
"Robin" <me@nowhere> wrote in message
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and it's a pretty old set with no menu options. Also, the LCD failed
progressively, with a small black area in one corner gradually spreading
across the screen over a period of a few months. It's goosed completely,
which is annoying as the radio still scans, transmits, receives etc....Keith
2K1LO
>> Hello - new on this group and bemused that much of the traffic volume
>> seems to involve bad-mouthing nutters on some kind of inane campaign
>> to restrict radio licencing opportunities to people who can be
>> bothered to learn morse code. A technical query on the ICOM IC-M5
>> handheld transceiver.....
We are truely not worthy Mr k.
>
> Is this LCD connected to the main board by a poor fitting rubberish block
> that is just a pressure fitting between the lcd and the pcb? Try
> repositioning it.
try - take it apart and find the rubber strips between the LCD and the
circuit board. Wash them carefully in fairy liquid and dry on radiator,
before putting them back in postion. Should do it. It's unlikely the LCD
panel itself is buggered unless it is smashed and black.
--
73de2K1LO
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k
"2K1LO" <gareth...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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buggered (it's gradually over a period of months become 95% black, like ink
seeping in from one corner of the display). So the option of cleaning up the
rubber mount to the PCB may not worth pursuing, I think. Even getting to the
LCD is a bit of a nightmare, with it lying underneath the 3rd of 3 PCBs and
without any obvious means of disconnecting this final PCB from the front
panel of the transceiver.
Now, I'm a cheapskate and I get a buzz from repairing all manner of broken
devices, but this one looks just too troublesome for my limited skills - I
get nervous whenever I see surface mounted components on a PCB. Even if I
could get the LCD display off the PCB, it may not be easy to get a
replacement unit as it's a pretty aged handheld radio.
I'll maybe open it up again and have alook to see if I can access the LCD -
I had assumed it would be hard soldered to the PCB, but this rubber mounting
system may give grounds to hope it will be an easy replacement if I can get
at it.
Thanks for your help and sorry if my preliminary comments in my initial post
appeared provocative - it's just that I was dismayed by the petty minded
vitriol and mud slinging that characterise a lot of the high traffic threads
in this group. I see that kind of obsessive behaviour all the time in the
binary music newsgroups and had thought amateur radio would have been above
that kind of pointless insult trading...Keith
2K1LO
>
> "2K1LO" <gareth...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:dtul5p$h53$1...@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>
>> "Three Cheers for PC Fuller!" <s...@f2s.com> wrote in message
>> news:MNmdnW8jOrl...@giganews.com...
>> >k wrote:
>> >> Hello - new on this group and bemused that much of the traffic volume
>> >> seems to involve bad-mouthing nutters on some kind of inane campaign
>> >> to restrict radio licencing opportunities to people who can be
>> >> bothered to learn morse code. A technical query on the ICOM IC-M5
>> >> handheld transceiver.....
>>
>> We are truely not worthy Mr k.
>>
>> >
>> panel itself is buggered unless it is smashed and black.
>>
>>
> buggered (it's gradually over a period of months become 95% black, like
> ink
> seeping in from one corner of the display).
Oh dear the you are stuck. Icom are however known for their huge stock of
spares even for the older radios.
have a look at the Icom website or contact your local Icom dealer. It may be
only a few tens of dollers to replace it.
rig doc
news:44020c87$0$37324$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
Here it comes from Know Brainer Code. Ready to wield some pointless abuse
but no skills or intelligence to find an answer to technical queries.
Perhaps when No Brainer Code can provide satisfactory answers to technical
questions, then he/she/it may be justified in making comments on an Amateur
Radio newsgroup. Lack of technical skills only prove one thing..........
know code
When an appropriate question is asked in an appropriate forum I will
give an appropriate technical answer. Note the subject line dipstick.
MARINE handheld tranciever (even transceiver was spelt wrong!). Nothing
to do with AMATEUR radio. rec.radio would be a more appropriate place
to post.
Now, see some of my other posts regarding satellite communications
regarding modulation methods and forward error correction schemes to see
if I have any technical skills or not.
I can't say I've seen you post anything even remotely technical on here
"rig doc" (stupid CB term.... are you an M3 by any chance?)! We are not
all as dumb as you, thankfully!
rig doc
all....
My sincerest apologies......
You're INTELLIGENT, offensive nasty verbally abusive stupid scum instead!!!!
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know code
> You're INTELLIGENT, offensive nasty verbally abusive stupid scum instead!!!!
Intelligent.... stupid.... make up your mind, or is it taking you too
long to actually find your mind? I hear someone on 27.555MHz calling
you. You are the weakest link, goodbye!
rig doc
STUPID then....
Thanks for alerting me to that point you made so well.
27.555Mhz? Damn cb'ers - you should try Amateur radio instead - it's
legal....
"don't know code" <know...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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know code
> 27.555Mhz? Damn cb'ers - you should try Amateur radio instead - it's
> legal....
I do and have done for years! Maybe it's time you did too because you
still haven't made a single relevant point or contribution to this
AMATEUR RADIO related newsgroup.
Care to point me to ANYTHING that you've contributed that could even
remotely be considered to be a *technical* discussion on AMATEUR RADIO
matters?
No? Then go back to CB where you belong.
rig doc
I only asked a nice decent question, only to have some nasty stuck up
bastard who isn't happy unless he's trying to make an ass of himself. Sort
of similar to the thick twats who play music across the repeaters - the
scenario is different but the end result is the same.
No time to be nice - too busy being a CUNT to others.
Go play on the M1 with truckers and play frogger.
"know code" <know...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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know code
> "know code" <know...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
> news:4405c1d0$0$71913$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
>
>> Care to point me to ANYTHING that you've contributed that could even
>> remotely be considered to be a *technical* discussion on AMATEUR RADIO
>> matters?
>
>
> You're right. I'm beginning to sound a lot like you.
> I only asked a nice decent question, only to have some nasty stuck up
> bastard who isn't happy unless he's trying to make an ass of himself.
Sort
> of similar to the thick twats who play music across the repeaters - the
> scenario is different but the end result is the same.
> No time to be nice - too busy being a CUNT to others.
>
> Go play on the M1 with truckers and play frogger.
>
I see you didn't answer the question. Is that because you HAVEN'T
contributed ANYTHING technical to this newsgroup?
Now, as for you asking a decent question.... yes, you asked a question
but you asked it in the WRONG PLACE. rec.radio would have been a more
appropriate place. That is all I pointed out, after which you went into
a tirade of abuse, because God forbid anyone should tell you that you
might actually be WRONG. Now, asking a question in the wrong place....
tell me again, who is the ass?
"No time to be nice - too busy being a CUNT to others".
Is that a comment about yourself?
Just looking at the language you have been using throughout this thread
shows that you probably have a temper issue. You might want to seek
professional help about it. And to be honest, with language and a
temper like that, you sound more like one of the repeater abuses that
you mention!
rig doc
> Just looking at the language you have been using throughout this thread
> shows that you probably have a temper issue. You might want to seek
> professional help about it. And to be honest, with language and a temper
> like that, you sound more like one of the repeater abuses that you
> mention!
Nahhh. Just bored with fools who flame without having even the slightest
comprehension of what they're talking about.
This NG has had its fair share of dicks who spoil it for others. So I give
better than they can get. Flaming is fine, but to have to able to take the
stick as well as give it.
Not angry one bit - just seeing how far I can make your blood boil - after
all you started it. A pleasant sensible question was asked and you choose to
flame it?And now attempting to make yourself look clever, you're just
embarrassing yourself even more. You never for one minute considered the
question with any more than a microsecond of vague thought, and what the
application may be and why anyone would want to know such information, and
for what application it might be applied. Jumping to unfounded conclusions
only confirms what we already thought - I think you're confuddled and
confused.
There are drugs and organisations designed to help............... see your
GP for further details.
know code
> "know code" <know...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
> news:4405cd9b$0$71913$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
>
>> Just looking at the language you have been using throughout this thread
>> shows that you probably have a temper issue. You might want to seek
>> professional help about it. And to be honest, with language and a temper
>> like that, you sound more like one of the repeater abuses that you
>> mention!
>
> Nahhh. Just bored with fools who flame without having even the slightest
> comprehension of what they're talking about.
Really? See my comments in other threads on modulation schemes, forward
error correction and link budgets.... all of which can be applied
directly to Amateur Radio communications. Now, I am *STILL* waiting on
you pointing out a *SINGLE* thing that you have contributed which shows
that you know what you are talking about!
> This NG has had its fair share of dicks who spoil it for others. So I give
> better than they can get. Flaming is fine, but to have to able to take the
> stick as well as give it.
Which I happily do (I am humouring you after all).
> Not angry one bit - just seeing how far I can make your blood boil - after
> all you started it.
My blood is not boiling. In fact I'm quite enjoying showing you up for
the clueless muppet that you really are. And one minor point.... I
didn't start it, the original poster did by asking a question in an
inappropriate forum and abusing the regular contributors before he even
asked the question!
> A pleasant sensible question was asked and you choose to
> flame it?
No, wrong again. I didn't flame it, I just pointed out that it was
posted in the wrong newsgroup. When are you going to get that into your
thick head? As for it being a "pleasant sensible question".... let me
quote from the original post.... "new on this group and bemused that
much of the traffic volume seems to involve bad-mouthing nutters on some
kind of inane campaign to restrict radio licencing opportunities to
people who can be bothered to learn morse code". So, the first thing
this guy does before he even asks his inappropriate question, was to
abuse the people who have been here for a LONG time (he called them
"nutters"). And he expects a sensible answer to a question that is
posted in the wrong group?
> And now attempting to make yourself look clever, you're just
> embarrassing yourself even more.
No, actually your posting style is making me look clever. I don't have
to try when you make it so easy for me. And the only one being
embarrassed around here is you. Found any evidence of ANY technical
contributions you have made to this group yet?
> You never for one minute considered the
> question with any more than a microsecond of vague thought, and what the
> application may be and why anyone would want to know such information, and
> for what application it might be applied.
Err, you just don't get it, do you? Look at the subject line. *MARINE*
handheld.... No mention was made of it EVER being used for Amateur
Radio. He even said, "Given the relatively low cost of modern marine
handhelds, it's hard to justify much more that £50 to resurrect an aged
handie". So, if this one can't be fixed, he'll just go and buy another
MARINE handheld. This is a MARINE handheld that was being used for
MARINE purposes. Clearly a posting to the wrong group. Are you sure
you actually read and understood the original posting yourself?
> Jumping to unfounded conclusions
> only confirms what we already thought - I think you're confuddled and
> confused.
See above. I think you'll find that you are the one who is "confuddled
and confused".
> There are drugs and organisations designed to help............... see your
> GP for further details.
Speaking from experience, are you?
k
further dismantling of the unit to remove the faulty LCD. Thanks for the
suggestion of Icoms web site too.
I am amused to see some continuing consternation from my original post, with
threads running further up this cluster involving a demeted regular poster
in this group - he seems to have some pedantic axe to grind about my
inappropriate posting of a marine radio query in an amateur radio group.....
oh dear, I'd better go outside and commit hari-kiri right away then.
Having held a commercial radio operating licence for decades and home brewed
my own RTTY and other data mode interfaces for radios 25 years ago,
including TOR /ARQ/FEC capabilities which he seems to hold in some degree of
awe, I don't feel inclined to be flamed by that kind of pathetic and
ill-mannered goon with an inflated sense of his own importance and a big
juvenile chip on his shoulder.
'know code' is kill-filed now, but do I wonder why these kinds of arrogant
and deranged individuals are tolerated in groups, particulary like this
amateur radio forum which has always had an ethos of tolerance and
respectability amongst practitioners. This group seems to have attrracted
quite a few similarly obsessive posters, who share 'knoe code's' curious
penchant of wedging his head firmly up his bottoms - pity that they spoil
this forum for genuine users.
I'm clear of this group for good now, as lifes too short to waste time
weeding out the obsessives nonsense that these lower lifeforms peddle, but
sincere thanks to those who responded positively to my enquiry. I admire
your endurance in suffering the fools of this group so gladly.....Keith
2K1LO
>
>
> I am amused to see some continuing consternation from my original post,
> with
> threads running further up this cluster involving a demeted regular poster
> in this group - he seems to have some pedantic axe to grind about my
> inappropriate posting of a marine radio query in an amateur radio
> group.....
> oh dear, I'd better go outside and commit hari-kiri right away then.
>
That'll be because we are on't tinternet.
know code
> I am amused to see some continuing consternation from my original post, with
> threads running further up this cluster involving a demeted regular poster
> in this group
What exactly is a demeted regular poster?
> he seems to have some pedantic axe to grind about my
> inappropriate posting of a marine radio query in an amateur radio group.....
And you still don't see the problem.... oh well, some people!
> oh dear, I'd better go outside and commit hari-kiri right away then.
Please do, one less idiot on usenet to deal with then.
> Having held a commercial radio operating licence for decades and home brewed
> my own RTTY and other data mode interfaces for radios 25 years ago,
> including TOR /ARQ/FEC capabilities which he seems to hold in some degree of
> awe, I don't feel inclined to be flamed by that kind of pathetic and
> ill-mannered goon with an inflated sense of his own importance and a big
> juvenile chip on his shoulder.
The only "ill-mannered goon" was the one who posted a MARINE radio
question to an AMATEUR radio newsgroup. And I have no "big juvenile
chip" on my shoulder, however I do have a problem with people posting
inappropriate posts to newsgroups.
> 'know code' is kill-filed now,
Yeah, kill-filed by someone who can't even tell the difference between
MARINE radio and AMATEUR radio. Who really is the idiot? :)
> but do I wonder why these kinds of arrogant
> and deranged individuals are tolerated in groups, particulary like this
> amateur radio forum which has always had an ethos of tolerance and
> respectability amongst practitioners.
This groups tolerates people who ask APPROPRIATE questions in here.
Appropriate questions in uk.radio.amateur are those that deal with
AMATEUR radio. Your question was NOT appropriate because it had NOTHING
to do with AMATEUR radio which is why it was not tolerated. Figured
that out yet?
> This group seems to have attrracted
> quite a few similarly obsessive posters, who share 'knoe code's' curious
> penchant of wedging his head firmly up his bottoms - pity that they spoil
> this forum for genuine users.
The only people who spoil it for others are those who post inappropriate
questions in this AMATEUR radio newsgroup, like those who post questions
about MARINE radio.
> I'm clear of this group for good now, as lifes too short to waste time
> weeding out the obsessives nonsense that these lower lifeforms peddle, but
> sincere thanks to those who responded positively to my enquiry. I admire
> your endurance in suffering the fools of this group so gladly.....Keith
Goodbye, you won't be missed and now we can get back to AMATEUR radio
topics!
rigdoc
> Goodbye, you won't be missed and now we can get back to AMATEUR radio
> topics!
But your last post was nothing to do with Amateur radio. Hyprocrite...
again.
And besides, you're in Holland so you should not be on this newgroup since
you're not in UK.
Piss off and go to nl.radio.amateur.
And to be totally honest, it doesn't matter whether you've made sensible
posts to this NG in the past - a bad mouthed individual with a bad attitiude
to others serves as a reminder that we all have to be careful with Amateur
Radio as it obviously attracts many deviants and miscreants, and plenty of
them end up on this newsgroup, since their bad behaviour wouldn't be
tolerated on the air, hence they spend so much time here instead.
You're a nasty little man with a lousy attitude and a misguided opinion of
yourself.
If I'm not causing you upset or annoyance as you previously stated then you
won't be bated by my reply and wouldn't make a follow up statement. But I
suspect you will and hence prove yourself for the umpteenth time to be a
habitual hypocrite.
Go back to your 27.555Mhz CB band
know code
> "know code" <know...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
> news:44060087$0$71913$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
>
>> Goodbye, you won't be missed and now we can get back to AMATEUR radio
>> topics!
>
> But your last post was nothing to do with Amateur radio. Hyprocrite...
> again.
Let's see.... the part that said "and now we can get back to AMATEUR
radio topics". Let's see, the words "amateur radio" have nothing to do
with amateur radio? Have you taken your medication today?
> And besides, you're in Holland so you should not be on this newgroup since
> you're not in UK.
> Piss off and go to nl.radio.amateur.
I hold a full UK Amateur licence so I'm as entitled to post in
uk.radio.amateur as anyone. Now, do you have a full UK Amateur licence
or are you a CBer posting in the wrong group?
> And to be totally honest, it doesn't matter whether you've made sensible
> posts to this NG in the past -
Really? I see you still haven't been able to produce any evidence of
ANY technical radio related posts that you've contributed to
uk.radio.amateur. I guess it's hard to find evidence of something you
haven't done!
> a bad mouthed individual with a bad attitiude
> to others serves as a reminder that we all have to be careful with Amateur
> Radio as it obviously attracts many deviants and miscreants, and plenty of
> them end up on this newsgroup, since their bad behaviour wouldn't be
> tolerated on the air, hence they spend so much time here instead.
A bad mouthed individual? Would you care to compare your posts with
mine and try again to tell me who the bad mouthed individual is? If
being a bad mouthed individual makes you a deviant and miscreant, then I
guess that is what you are!
> You're a nasty little man with a lousy attitude and a misguided opinion of
> yourself.
Not at all. You know absolutely nothing about me so I'll prove that
with one fact for you..... you say I'm a "little man"? If 6'2" is
little, then yes, hands up, I'm little! And, I don't have a misguided
opinion of myself. I know exactly what my opinion is!
> If I'm not causing you upset or annoyance as you previously stated then you
> won't be bated by my reply and wouldn't make a follow up statement. But I
> suspect you will and hence prove yourself for the umpteenth time to be a
> habitual hypocrite.
Not at all. Usenet gives me the right to reply and I'm simply
exercising that right. You with your twisted logic will not stop me
doing that.
> Go back to your 27.555Mhz CB band
Why? Do you need someone to talk to or something?
Garp
When I said little I WAS referring to your height. Perhaps I should have
meant penis or brain.
"know code" <know...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
news:4406ea7e$0$64984$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
Garp
little frustrated. And getting angry too! I wonder how far I can push him
before he trips up again and entertains us some more with his lunatic and
pointless rantings and ramblings.
And it all started with his totallt unecessary pointless nasty snide
comments earlier on. Comments created to inflame and upset things.
Unpleasant character he is. He creates a war and then gets all upset when it
backfires on him when he starts to look foolish.
I'm obviously having an effect because he insists on replying. If my posts
didn't have any effect he'd go quietly, but I'm obviously touching a raw
nerve somewhere!!!
waits for next rant......
"don't know any code whatsoever" <don't_know_any...@wanadoo.nl> wrote
in message news:4406ea7e$0$64984$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
> rig doc wrote:
>> "don't know any code" <don't know co...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
>> news:44060087$0$71913$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
>>
know code
> You replied. I rest my case. You're embarrassing yourself.
I'm embarrassing myself? How do you figure that out when everything you
say gets shot down in flames?
> When I said little I WAS referring to your height.
So, you are agreeing that you were wrong? AGAIN?
> Perhaps I should have meant penis or brain.
And there you go bad mouthing again...... you really should read some of
the posts where you chastise me and see how many of those things fit
your posts!
Brian Reay
>
> Let's see.... the part that said "and now we can get back to AMATEUR radio
> topics". Let's see, the words "amateur radio" have nothing to do with
> amateur radio?
Personally, I'm happy to read almost any technically radio related post on
here- they make far better reading than your "news group policing" posts.
If you don't like the non-amateur technical posts or, as I suspect, they go
over your head, just ignore the thread.
--
73
Brian
www.g8osn.org.uk
know code
> "know code" <know...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
> news:4406ea7e$0$64984$dbd4...@news.wanadoo.nl...
> >
>> Let's see.... the part that said "and now we can get back to AMATEUR radio
>> topics". Let's see, the words "amateur radio" have nothing to do with
>> amateur radio?
>
> Personally, I'm happy to read almost any technically radio related post on
> here- they make far better reading than your "news group policing" posts.
So am I, but this is uk.radio.AMATEUR so excuse me for actually having
some netiquette, but I would expect only to see technical posts relating
to AMATEUR radio in here.
> If you don't like the non-amateur technical posts or, as I suspect, they go
> over your head, just ignore the thread.
You should take your own advice Brian! You said you're rather read
technically radio related posts rather than news group policing
posts.... So, why are you responding to this?
Now, as for the stuff being over my head.... I think it's fair to say,
hand on heart, that I know a lot more of the technical stuff than you
think I do! If someone asks a *relevant* AMATEUR radio related
question, I will post a *relevant* technical answer.
know code
> By George, I think the 6'2 man in Holland is confuddled, confused and a
> little frustrated.
And just how do you figure that out? I have never said anything that
has even hinted that I am any of those things. Now you on the other
hand... you're showing all those traits with almost every post you make,
which probably explains why you think those things apply to me.
> And getting angry too!
Again, how do you work that out? I'm not that one that has been
swearing at others! Go read some of your previous posts.
> I wonder how far I can push him
> before he trips up again and entertains us some more with his lunatic and
> pointless rantings and ramblings.
The only one making "lunatic and pointless ramblings" is you.
> And it all started with his totallt unecessary pointless nasty snide
> comments earlier on. Comments created to inflame and upset things.
They were not unnecessary, pointless, nasty or snide. I'd advise you to
go back and read what I actually said in my original post because I
think your brain has scrambled your memory a bit. I was merely pointing
out that a question about a MARINE radio was inappropriate in an AMATEUR
radio newsgroup and the tone I used was no worse than the original
poster. The only term would could have been construed as 'nasty', i.e.
'nutter' was one that was actually used by the original poster to
describe the participants of this newsgroup. If someone doesn't want to
be called a 'nutter', then don't use the term to describe others! Also,
posting to appropriate groups is simply good netiquette but it's clear
that neither you or the original poster seem to know anything about that.
> Unpleasant character he is. He creates a war and then gets all upset when it
> backfires on him when he starts to look foolish.
Now you are just being silly. I am not the one who has been looking
foolish. Trust me on that. Look in a mirror to see the one who fits
that category. As for getting upset, look at see who has all the
swearing in their posts!
> I'm obviously having an effect because he insists on replying. If my posts
> didn't have any effect he'd go quietly, but I'm obviously touching a raw
> nerve somewhere!!!
The only reason that I am replying is because I am still waiting for you
to answer some simple questions that you always seem to avoid. So, let
me put them to you one more time and see if you can actually answer
them, or are you going to avoid them like the obvious coward that you are?
1. I've asked you four or five times to provide evidence of ANY post on
uk.radio.amateur where you have made ANY technical contribution. Care
to answer it this time?
2. I have openly stated that I hold a full UK Amateur Radio licence.
You were asked if you were a CBer posting in the wrong group. So, are
you a CBer, or do you hold a full UK Amateur Radio licence? If you're a
CBer, do you even have a licence?
> waits for next rant......
I guess you'll have to wait until YOUR next post arrives in your
newsreader then!
P.S. why did you change your alias on here from the stupid CB term 'rig
doc' to 'Garp'? Was 'rig doc' making it obvious you were just a CBer?
know code
> P.S. why did you change your alias on here from the stupid CB term 'rig
> doc' to 'Garp'? Was 'rig doc' making it obvious you were just a CBer?
Just had a good giggle when I read the editorial review of "The World
According to Garp".
From
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/034536676X/103-3340143-2783869?v=glance&n=283155
"Garp was a natural storyteller," ...... "He could make things up one
right after the other, and they seemed to fit."
I think that sums up our Garp (a.k.a. 'rig doc'), down to a tee!
zBBPK
> Personally, I'm happy to read almost any technically radio related post on
> here- they make far better reading than your "news group policing" posts.
so why did you post so much rubbish about the m3 licence ?
DieSea
"zBBPK"
<class-a-licens...@didnt-run-away-from-a-morse-test.es.eircom.com.net>
wrote in message news:44076959...@news.iol.ie...
Well said that man
You're my new hero
At least for the time being
DieSea