R U QTHR?
Len GM0ONX
http://www.ayrshirehistory.eu/tadx/map_radio_map_of_britain.html
Johnny Melvin
"Len GM0ONX" <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
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> Is this the original Radio Amateur's Call book?
>
> http://www.ayrshirehistory.eu/tadx/map_radio_map_of_britain.html
>
I lived 12 miles from Cullercoats GCC I could hear them very well lol.
Cw was mint stuff.
Its where you went to take the CW test in the "old days " for your RAE
Pass,.
Don't get me started.
de Johnny G3LIV
G4KFK
When did GKB QSY from Northolt to Portishead....?
Able Baker
"Johnny Melvin" <joh...@melvin.com> wrote in message
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As I remember it, the CW test in the "old days" was a seperate test and
nothing actually to do with the RAE, except to gain an amateur radio licence
(or a PMG certificate) you were required to obtain a pass in the CW test and
the RAE. The CW pass was only valid for 12 months, so unless you gained a
pass in the RAE within that time, you would have to take and pass the CW
test again to obtain your "ticket".
Johnny Melvin
"Able Baker" <able....@charlie.delta.com> wrote in message
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I did mean to obtain a license.
It needed BOTH parts passed.
And as you say the CW pass only lasted 12 months.
I never bought a mike for some thing like 5 years.
ALL CW..
IF memory serves me right.
You had to stay on CW for a year minimum.
Then the MAN visited from the GPO and checked you had
at least 50 Qsos in the log before passing you fit to have a mike.
If he was not satisfied I think he extended the CW ONLY by
another period.
Seems an excellent idea to me.
de Johnny G3LIV
John
"Len GM0ONX" wrote
> Is this the original Radio Amateur's Call book?
>
> http://www.ayrshirehistory.eu/tadx/map_radio_map_of_britain.html
Its quite interesting to see the distributions - relatively large clusters
in Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Sheffiled, Liverpool, Bristol and Chelmsford
(no doubt due to the Marconi Factory), but no amateurs in the Greater London
area, only in the outer suburbs.
Wales and Scotland are virtual radio wastelands.
FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI
your log verified in any way?
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.
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
http://turner-smith.co.uk
Ian Jackson
<g3...@turner-smith.co.uK> writes
>"Johnny Melvin" <joh...@melvin.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Able Baker" <able....@charlie.delta.com> wrote in message
>>news:GyXbo.90039$Vv6.14163@hurricane...
>>>
>>> "Johnny Melvin" <joh...@melvin.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "Len GM0ONX" <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:i4p6ab$lum$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Is this the original Radio Amateur's Call book?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ayrshirehistory.eu/tadx/map_radio_map_of_britain.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I lived 12 miles from Cullercoats GCC I could hear them very well lol.
>>>> Cw was mint stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Its where you went to take the CW test in the "old days " for your
>>>>RAE Pass,.
>>>
>>> As I remember it, the CW test in the "old days" was a seperate test
>>>and nothing actually to do with the RAE, except to gain an amateur
>>>radio licence (or a PMG certificate) you were required to obtain a
>>>pass in the CW test and the RAE. The CW pass was only valid for 12
>>>months, so unless you gained a pass in the RAE within that time, you
>>>
>>>
>> Yes that's right.
>> I did mean to obtain a license.
>> It needed BOTH parts passed.
>> And as you say the CW pass only lasted 12 months.
>>
>> I never bought a mike for some thing like 5 years.
>> ALL CW..
>>
>> IF memory serves me right.
>> You had to stay on CW for a year minimum.
>> Then the MAN visited from the GPO and checked you had
>> at least 50 Qsos in the log before passing you fit to have a mike.
>> If he was not satisfied I think he extended the CW ONLY by
>> another period.
>> Seems an excellent idea to me.
>>
>> de Johnny G3LIV
>I know times and attitudes have changed over the years, but were the
>QSOs in your log verified in any way?
Although this was a bit before my time, I suspect that, in those days,
the GPO inspectors were pretty familiar with who was active on the
various amateur bands, and were pretty adept at spotting forgeries and
wishful thinkings. Some were themselves licensed (if not particularly
active), but usually kept this quiet.
--
Ian
lu...@eternal-flames.gov
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Although this was a bit before my time, I suspect that, in those days,
>the GPO inspectors were pretty familiar with who was active on the
>various amateur bands, and were pretty adept at spotting forgeries and
>wishful thinkings. Some were themselves licensed (if not particularly
>active), but usually kept this quiet.
So what we need is an amateur who was licenced and active in 1925(?)
Where's Wlat this morning? :-)
Nick.
Able Baker
"John" <Jo...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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The map shows locations of BBC regional stations - not amateurs.
(2MT Writtle and 2LO London for example)
John
"Able Baker" wrote in message
>>
>>> Is this the original Radio Amateur's Call book?
>>>
>>> http://www.ayrshirehistory.eu/tadx/map_radio_map_of_britain.html
>>
>>
>> Its quite interesting to see the distributions - relatively large
>> clusters in Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Sheffiled, Liverpool, Bristol and
>> Chelmsford (no doubt due to the Marconi Factory), but no amateurs in the
>> Greater London area, only in the outer suburbs.
>>
>> Wales and Scotland are virtual radio wastelands.
>
> The map shows locations of BBC regional stations - not amateurs.
> (2MT Writtle and 2LO London for example)
Surely too many stations in places like Birmingham to be BBC regional
stations?
M0WWS
pre WWII 2 callsigns we converted to G2 after the war
I knew (G)2VO when I was a kid and he lived in Cononley.
I'm guessing 5 calls were foreigners (converted to G5 ?)
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M0WWS
"John" <Jo...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
Len GM0ONX
G5 + 3 letters were non UK nationals, not sure about G5 +2 Were Louis
Varney G5RV and Jack Hum G5UM both foreign?
John
"John" wrote
>
> .............but no amateurs in the Greater London area, only in the outer
> suburbs.
Doh - I've just noticed the insert in the top right corner detailing the
amateurs in the Greater London Area.
John
"Able Baker" wrote
>
> The map shows locations of BBC regional stations - not amateurs.
> (2MT Writtle and 2LO London for example)
I think in 1920 2LO and 2MT were classed as experimental stations. Also at
this time the BBC didn't exist - it was incorporated a couple of years later
(1923?)
Johnny Melvin
"FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" <g3...@turner-smith.co.uK> wrote in message
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> "Johnny Melvin" <joh...@melvin.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Able Baker" <able....@charlie.delta.com> wrote in message
>> news:GyXbo.90039$Vv6.14163@hurricane...
>>>
>>> "Johnny Melvin" <joh...@melvin.com> wrote in message
>>> news:3NWbo.59515$ag5.48044@hurricane...
>>>>
>>
>> IF memory serves me right.
>> You had to stay on CW for a year minimum.
>> Then the MAN visited from the GPO and checked you had
>> at least 50 Qsos in the log before passing you fit to have a mike.
>> If he was not satisfied I think he extended the CW ONLY by
>> another period.
>> Seems an excellent idea to me.
>>
>> de Johnny G3LIV
> I know times and attitudes have changed over the years, but were the QSOs
> in your log verified in any way?
> --
> ;-)
> .
> 73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
Hi,
Not that I remember, but you did not TELL LIES to the GPO man.
That could I suppose loose you your license.
My log had 100s of cw contacts in lol.
I still have my original logs someplace
I remember Mr Gascoigne ( the GPO man ) he knew what went on believe you
me.
de Johnny G3LIV
M0WWS
"Chronos" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> M0WWS wrote:
>
>> I knew (G)2VO when I was a kid and he lived in Cononley.
>
>
>> I'm guessing 5 calls were foreigners (converted to G5 ?)
>
> Hum 5UM was a foreigner.
Yeah that's right 2 calls were artificial aerial licencees
http://www.winforce.org.uk/MMARS/licence3.htm
Ian Jackson
<gm0...@goooooglemail.com> writes
Errrr...
No, Len.
No.
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Ian
John
"M0WWS" wrote
>>> I'm guessing 5 calls were foreigners (converted to G5 ?)
Those "5" calls were issued in the 1960s/70s - such as G5AGX etc.
>> Full transmitting licences, again if memory serves. I don't think Jack
>> Hum 5UM was a foreigner.
>
> Yeah that's right 2 calls were artificial aerial licencees
"2" + 3 letter calls such as "2AAA" were AA licences - calls with two
suffix letters were transmitting licences
No spam please
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The "G" prefix was in use before World War 2.
"World at Their Fingertips" carries a report, written in 1934, of the first
UK - ZL QSO which took place in 1924. It shows the UK end of the QSO as G2ZS
and not 2ZS.
The "G" prefix was definitely in use by the time the Spring 1937 Flying
Horse callbook was published.
The "AA2 licences did not have a prefix.
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John
"Chronos" wrote
>> "2" + 3 letter calls such as "2AAA" were AA licences - calls with
>> two suffix letters were transmitting licences
>
> Ah, so all 2+2 and 5+2 calls were full transmitting licences?
AFAIK - yes
M0WWS
"John" <Jo...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
John
> a bit pointless putting non-radiating locations on a map of
> transmitting stations.
Taking it a stage further, AFAIK all two letter suffix licences were
transmitting licences, including "3"+ 2, "4"+ 2, "6"+ 2 and "8" + 2.
I don't think any "1", "7", "9" or "0" series calls were issued in the
pre-war years.
GM4DHJ ...
> IF memory serves me right.
> You had to stay on CW for a year minimum.
> Then the MAN visited from the GPO and checked you had
> at least 50 Qsos in the log before passing you fit to have a mike.
> If he was not satisfied I think he extended the CW ONLY by
> another period.
> Seems an excellent idea to me.
>
> de Johnny G3LIV
>
>
you don't like brian as well? ........
Len GM0ONX
That's what I thought!
Len GM0ONX
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:02:40 +0100
> Len GM0ONX<gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote:
>
>> G5 + 3 letters were non UK nationals, not sure about G5 +2 Were Louis
>> Varney G5RV and Jack Hum G5UM both foreign?
>
> what was done pre-WWII for the 2 letter calls.
>
No I wasn't, I was questioning someone else's statement.
Len GM0ONX
> "Able Baker"<able....@charlie.delta.com> wrote in message
>>
>> "Johnny Melvin"<joh...@melvin.com> wrote in message
>> news:3NWbo.59515$ag5.48044@hurricane...
>>>
>>> news:i4p6ab$lum$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ayrshirehistory.eu/tadx/map_radio_map_of_britain.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cw was mint stuff.
>>>
>>> Its where you went to take the CW test in the "old days " for your RAE
>>> Pass,.
>>
>> As I remember it, the CW test in the "old days" was a seperate test and
>> nothing actually to do with the RAE, except to gain an amateur radio
>> licence (or a PMG certificate) you were required to obtain a pass in the
>> CW test and the RAE. The CW pass was only valid for 12 months, so unless
>> pass the CW test again to obtain your "ticket".
>>
>>
> Yes that's right.
> I did mean to obtain a license.
> It needed BOTH parts passed.
> And as you say the CW pass only lasted 12 months.
>
> I never bought a mike for some thing like 5 years.
> ALL CW..
>
> You had to stay on CW for a year minimum.
> Then the MAN visited from the GPO and checked you had
> at least 50 Qsos in the log before passing you fit to have a mike.
> If he was not satisfied I think he extended the CW ONLY by
> another period.
> Seems an excellent idea to me.
>
> de Johnny G3LIV
>
>
Let's go one better and bring back the AA licence as well. Its just as
relevant after all. Who need to transmit RF in an internet age! :-)
GM4DHJ ...
> Some were themselves licensed (if not particularly
> active), but usually kept this quiet.
>
quite right as well...no place for professional hams lording it over
non-professionals .......
GM4DHJ ...
parrot there for a minute .......
GM4DHJ ...
> Wales and Scotland are virtual radio wastelands.
>
>
>
>
and still are occupied by the odd pirate scumbag .......
Len GM0ONX
As opposed to CW operators (not those that just passed the test) trying
to lord it over non CW operators?
Len GM0ONX
Len GM0ONX
>> Wales and Scotland are virtual radio wastelands.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> and still are occupied by the odd pirate scumbag .......
>
>
And the odd grumpy radio old fart! :-)
GM4DHJ ...
Johnny Melvin
But don't you think just getting a station working for the challenge of
working
that distant station is the whole point.
Unlike the internet connections.
Its the CHALLENGE my dear fellow.
de Johnny G3LIV
GM4DHJ ...
"Len GM0ONX" <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
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> Is this the original Radio Amateur's Call book?
>
> http://www.ayrshirehistory.eu/tadx/map_radio_map_of_britain.html
>
RENFREW RADIO ....I'm on there .........GER must stand for the wife
GERaldine .......
GM4DHJ ...
yes and your good self ....
GM4DHJ ...
what? ......
GM4DHJ ...
so you just use the parrot on nice chaps from Dublin? .........
GM4DHJ ...
"GM4DHJ ..." <JIM.G...@NTLWORLD.COM> wrote in message
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to the nautical college and never went to sea...I see what you are getting
at .......
Len GM0ONX
>
> Sorry Len.
>
> But don't you think just getting a station working for the challenge of
> working
> that distant station is the whole point.
>
> Unlike the internet connections.
>
> Its the CHALLENGE my dear fellow.
>
> de Johnny G3LIV
>
>
I'm not disagreeing with you, if all I wanted to do was talk I'd use the
phone. I just believe that the value of CW test (which I did pass at
12WPM) and CW is overplayed and the ability to use CW has no bearing on
someone's technical ability. It is supposed to be a technical pursuit
after all.
The CW Taliban on here would have you believe that their version of
amateur radio is the one true light and there is no value in any other
version of amateur radio.
Len GM0ONX
At your end of Glasgow is more like like to be RanGERs.
Len GM0ONX
Proudly so!
GM4DHJ ...
that's it... Geehad time .......
Len GM0ONX
This NG is famous for its 'I'm better than you' attitude. Wha's like us
etc etc!
GM4DHJ ...
I don't understand anything to do with fitba .......
GM4DHJ ...
> This NG is famous for its 'I'm better than you' attitude. Wha's like us
> etc etc!
>
ideal spot for the big farmer then .......
Len GM0ONX
Yep, because he was a one trick pony who could get his facts right. The
best one was when he went on about needing a CW pass for a reciprocal
licence from Malaysia. Not only did a UK radio amateur not need a CW
test pass for a reciprocal licence but Irish amateurs couldn't even get
a automatic reciprocal licence with a CW pass as there was no reciprocal
arrangements with Ireland. Laughed I nearly joined RAOTA!
Len GM0ONX
using CW or on technical matters!
Len GM0ONX
> "Len GM0ONX"<gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
> news:i4rjh0$5fr$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 22/08/2010 17:02, GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> "Len GM0ONX"<gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:i4p6ab$lum$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Is this the original Radio Amateur's Call book?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ayrshirehistory.eu/tadx/map_radio_map_of_britain.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> RENFREW RADIO ....I'm on there .........GER must stand for the wife
>>> GERaldine .......
>>>
>>>
>>
>> At your end of Glasgow is more like like to be RanGERs.
>>
>
> I don't understand anything to do with fitba .......
>
>
You don't have to, I hate fitba too!
GM4DHJ ...
I would hope so with all that professional training .......