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Mr Benn

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Jul 2, 2009, 10:21:28 AM7/2/09
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Because not many of the posts have anything to do with radio. Many of them
are downright bizarre. It's not a good advert for people wishing to join
the hobby.

I have another question. I used to be a G4 many years ago but let my
licence lapse around 1992. I am considering getting licenced again but have
no idea where my RAE & morse pass certificates are. Are these needed for
Ofcom to re-issue a licence?

Regards

Mr. Benn


Owners Club@nicksplace.co.com The Brains of the Outfit...

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"Mr Bean" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message
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> I used to be a G4 many years ago...

<sigh>

How are your haemorrhoids then?

tox


Ian Jackson

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Jul 2, 2009, 10:48:07 AM7/2/09
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In message <KKqdndPk-J76X9HX...@pipex.net>, Mr Benn
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You will need to provide some proof that you were a G4 - even if it's
just an entry in an old callbook. What was your callsign?
--
Ian

Ian Jackson

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In message <jE33m.50451$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com>, The Brains
of the Outfit... <Tra...@Owners.Club.invalid> writes
The problems of haemorrhoids are not to be sniffed at. They are really
NO joke. Thank God for Preparation H suppositories!
--
Ian

Brian Reay

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"Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message
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> Because not many of the posts have anything to do with radio. Many of
> them are downright bizarre. It's not a good advert for people wishing to
> join the hobby.

Surely that depends on the tone of the thread. For example, the one re the
Airbus while "of topic" hasn't had the usual "spoilers" joining it and thus
is just a discussion.


>
> I have another question. I used to be a G4 many years ago but let my
> licence lapse around 1992. I am considering getting licenced again but
> have no idea where my RAE & morse pass certificates are. Are these needed
> for Ofcom to re-issue a licence?

If you've some proof you held the callsign there should be an issue. An old
licence would be the best but if you can demonstrate holding the callsign
by, for example a photocopy of the relevant entry in the RSGB callbook, and
that entry relates to you, OFCOM will (re)issue your licence with your old
callsign- no need to take any exams etc.

You can download the form from the OFCOM website, fill it in, enclose the
proof, and �20 and all should be well. Once you've get the licence you will
be "on the system" and so get a username and password to "renew" your
licence every 5 years for free. The �20 is just to "get on the system".

Welcome back.

--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk

Steve Terry

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Jul 2, 2009, 11:29:24 AM7/2/09
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"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Ian
>
>
Indeed, it's a problem a lot of people have trouble getting their head
around

Steve Terry


Steve Terry

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Jul 2, 2009, 11:41:10 AM7/2/09
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"Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
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> 73
> Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
>
>
Without doubt Brian you are the friend people need, who don't have Google as
one

Steve Terry


Des Kinvig

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Jul 2, 2009, 11:47:49 AM7/2/09
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"Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message
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> Because not many of the posts have anything to do with radio. Many of
> them are downright bizarre. It's not a good advert for people wishing to
> join the hobby.

You are correct that recent aviation thread was long and very
interesting........and we don't want any more scumbags into the hobby.......

>
> I have another question. I used to be a G4 many years ago but let my
> licence lapse around 1992. I am considering getting licenced again but
> have no idea where my RAE & morse pass certificates are. Are these needed
> for Ofcom to re-issue a licence?

>Regards

>Mr. Benn

try through that door and you can dress up in strange G4 clothes ......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9zq8luOjSw

Custos Custodum

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Jul 2, 2009, 11:52:25 AM7/2/09
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Johnny Melvin

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Jul 2, 2009, 11:50:31 AM7/2/09
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"Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message
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Hi ,

Its not always on topic in here.
But it is good chat. Well most of the time.
And we do help out when its required.
But lets be honest.
The chat on aircraft was damn interesting.

I think its a hell of a good advert personally.

Buy yourself a flack jacket from Tox and join in , lol.
But always keep the jacket handy OK.

de Johnny G3LIV


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Smolley

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"Custos Custodum" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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For what use they are, I might as well shove them up my arse.


Chaney

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Jul 2, 2009, 2:34:06 PM7/2/09
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"Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message
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A couple of mornings ago I spent around a hour on 40m chatting inter G (M if
you like)...not once did the topic of radio arise...there was a G3...an EI6
(a former G3)...a M3 who was a pleasure to talk too and others...the EI6
cleared and came back to me once he had let his builder in...

My point is that this is an amateur radio NG...and just as in amateur radio
the hobby...topics of conversation are diverse...if every thread on this NG
was on topic I don't think I would visit here...

Take a leaf out of that G4 from Scotland's book...enjoy life...take that
suppository from up your arse and suck on a chill pill instead...oh...and
welcome back to the hobby...

--

Chaney..

Chaney's World: Scooters - A Way of Life
http://www.chaney.i12.com


Steve Terry

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Jul 2, 2009, 3:01:21 PM7/2/09
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"Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message
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A G4 who looses their RAE & Morse pass certificates, and presumably
ARC as well? and doesn't seem to know how to Google for the answer,
are "not a good advert for people wishing to join the hobby"
either

Steve Terry

Ian Jackson

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Jul 2, 2009, 3:20:48 PM7/2/09
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In message <h2j066$tl6$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry
<gFOU...@tesco.net> writes
Aw, come on. Be fair. 1992 was a long time ago, and he may have last
needed the paperwork many years earlier. It could (say) 30 years ago.
Even if you know you haven't thrown it away, could you lay your hands on
YOUR paperwork from 1979?
--
Ian

Steve Terry

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Jul 2, 2009, 3:38:41 PM7/2/09
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"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Ian
>
>
I'm hopeless at keeping paperwork, but i can lay my hands on my Licence,
RAE pass, Morse pass, and ARC, cos i keep them together and somewhere safe

and failing that, i'd know how to Google the answer

Steve Terry


zaphod

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Jul 2, 2009, 4:36:24 PM7/2/09
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"Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message
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> I have another question. I used to be a G4 many years ago

No you didn't. You just borrowed a G4 outfit from that fancy dress shop at
the end of Festive Road.


Steve Terry

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"zaphod" <zap...@zaphod.com> wrote in message news:h2j5oh$k5j$1...@aioe.org...
I don't rate any boy bands

Steve Terry


zaphod

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Jul 2, 2009, 4:45:18 PM7/2/09
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"Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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They're a bit like that other group "Il Divo". I'm reliably informed that's
Italian for "The Divs".


zaphod

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"Des Kinvig" <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> try through that door and you can dress up in strange G4 clothes ......

Did Mr Benn ever buy any outfits from that Turkish shopkeeper with the Tommy
Cooper fetish? If he did, I must've missed those esipodes.

Ian Jackson

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Jul 2, 2009, 5:07:36 PM7/2/09
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In message <h2j2c5$up$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry
Well bully for you, then! Lesser mortals might not be so well-organized.

>and failing that, i'd know how to Google the answer
>

How could Google help you with your RAE , morse and Amateur Radio
certificates?

OK, you could probably find out what you need to do in order to reclaim
your licence, but if everyone Googled everything, and found all the
answers that they needed, all the NGs would be virtually deserted!

If the G4 in question would reveal his old callsign, I'll look in my
latest Callbook (1993!), and let him know if he is listed. If so, there
should be no difficulty in reclaiming his callsign and renewing his
licence.
--
Ian

Len GM0ONX

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Jul 2, 2009, 5:27:19 PM7/2/09
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Ian Jackson wrote:

> If the G4 in question would reveal his old callsign, I'll look in my
> latest Callbook (1993!), and let him know if he is listed. If so, there
> should be no difficulty in reclaiming his callsign and renewing his
> licence.


Or you could of course get a replacement C&G certificate. You don't need
the Morse certificate

http://www.cityandguilds.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-5EEAB2A5-850E8D91/cgonline/hs.xsl/2326.html?search_term=replacement
certificate

Steve Terry

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"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <h2j2c5$up$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry
> <gFOU...@tesco.net> writes
>>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:SALEDEPQ...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>>> In message <h2j066$tl6$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry
>>> <gFOU...@tesco.net> writes
>>>>"Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message
>>>>news:KKqdndPk-J76X9HX...@pipex.net...
<snip>

> How could Google help you with your RAE , morse and Amateur Radio
> certificates?
>
>
What i meant of course is as this subject has been talked about several
times before, googling would reveal those threads of what Ofcom require
these days

Or better still go into the Ofcom website and if you can't find the answer,
contact them.

Steve Terry


Yeti

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Jul 2, 2009, 5:44:45 PM7/2/09
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Ian Jackson wrote:

>>
> How could Google help you with your RAE , morse and Amateur Radio
> certificates?
>
> OK, you could probably find out what you need to do in order to reclaim
> your licence, but if everyone Googled everything, and found all the
> answers that they needed, all the NGs would be virtually deserted!

Not quite. You can't have a lively discussion that branches off into 14
different subjects on Google :P

Yeti

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Jul 2, 2009, 7:28:36 PM7/2/09
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Better still go to the Ofcom website?

Needle in a haystack... Ofcom's site has to be one of the worst designed
in history!

Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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Jul 2, 2009, 7:37:19 PM7/2/09
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"Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
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> You can download the form from the OFCOM website, fill it in, enclose the
> proof, and �20 and all should be well. Once you've get the licence you
> will be "on the system" and so get a username and password to "renew" your
> licence every 5 years for free. The �20 is just to "get on the system".
>
I thought everybody got 'free for life' licences now, what's this 5 year
renewal?
--
;-)
.
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
http://turner-smith.co.uk

Steve Terry

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"Yeti" <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote in message
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That's why i said use it to contact Ofcom

Steve Terry


star...@invalid.invalid

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On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:19:38 +0100, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid>
wrote:

>Airbus while "of topic" hasn't had the usual "spoilers" joining it and thus
>is just a discussion.

said m3-(amstrad901)-osn

Brian Reay

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"Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI" <g3...@turner-smith.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
> news:fe43m.12782$wR3....@newsfe21.ams2...
>> You can download the form from the OFCOM website, fill it in, enclose the
>> proof, and �20 and all should be well. Once you've get the licence you
>> will be "on the system" and so get a username and password to "renew"
>> your licence every 5 years for free. The �20 is just to "get on the
>> system".
>>
> I thought everybody got 'free for life' licences now, what's this 5 year
> renewal?

Every 5 years you need to confirm your details to keep the licence current.
"Renew" (in quotes) seemed a good way to summarise that.

Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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"Brian Reay" <seewe...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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My lifetime licence was issued 2 March 2007. Will I be contacted around 2
March 2012 to renew, or is this something else to try to remember? I can't
be far from getting my first MEMORY FULL error, this could cause it.

Yeti

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You can update your details anytime - go do it now and you won't have to
do it until July 2014.

Mr Benn

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"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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I've moved home several times since 1992. That's the main problem! Things
go missing during moves.


Mr Benn

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"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> If the G4 in question would reveal his old callsign, I'll look in my
> latest Callbook (1993!), and let him know if he is listed. If so, there
> should be no difficulty in reclaiming his callsign and renewing his
> licence.

I was listed in the callbook and have a copy so I should be ok. Thanks Ian.


Mr Benn

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"Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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Thanks for your help Steve.


Mr Benn

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"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <jE33m.50451$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com>, The Brains
> of the Outfit... <Tra...@Owners.Club.invalid> writes
>>
>>"Mr Bean" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message
>>news:KKqdndPk-J76X9HX...@pipex.net...
>>>

>>> I used to be a G4 many years ago...
>>
>><sigh>
>>
>>How are your haemorrhoids then?
>>
> The problems of haemorrhoids are not to be sniffed at. They are really NO
> joke. Thank God for Preparation H suppositories!

I got my class A licence when I was 15 so I'm not exactly ancient.


Mr Benn

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"Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message
> news:KKqdndPk-J76X9HX...@pipex.net...

>> I have another question. I used to be a G4 many years ago but let my

>> licence lapse around 1992. I am considering getting licenced again but
>> have no idea where my RAE & morse pass certificates are. Are these
>> needed for Ofcom to re-issue a licence?
>

> If you've some proof you held the callsign there should be an issue. An
> old licence would be the best but if you can demonstrate holding the
> callsign by, for example a photocopy of the relevant entry in the RSGB
> callbook, and that entry relates to you, OFCOM will (re)issue your licence
> with your old callsign- no need to take any exams etc.


>
> You can download the form from the OFCOM website, fill it in, enclose the
> proof, and �20 and all should be well. Once you've get the licence you
> will be "on the system" and so get a username and password to "renew" your
> licence every 5 years for free. The �20 is just to "get on the system".
>

> Welcome back.

Thank you Brian for the information and sensible reply. I have several
items of proof that I was once licenced. I just wish I could work out what
I did with the bloody paperwork after having let my licence lapse for 16
years!


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DieSea

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"Walt Davidson" <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:57:16 +0100, Yeti <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
>
>>You can update your details anytime - go do it now and you won't have to
>>do it until July 2014.
>
> I would, but I've forgotten how to do it.
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
> --
> Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com

Will some one go through it for our old codger Wlat

A step by step guide would be helpful for an ancient Gee Free

Tee Hee

DieSea


DieSea

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<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:57:16 +0100, Yeti <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
>
>>Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:
>>> "Brian Reay" <seewe...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2kg3m.2517$zU6....@newsfe04.ams2...
>>>
>>> My lifetime licence was issued 2 March 2007. Will I be contacted around
>>> 2 March 2012 to renew, or is this something else to try to remember? I
>>> can't be far from getting my first MEMORY FULL error, this could cause it.
>>
>>You can update your details anytime - go do it now and you won't have to
>>do it until July 2014.
>
>
> Exactly!
> You see Frank, the National Statistics Office worked out that in any
> five year period, the odds were pretty good that even the most
> consistently inebriated individual, would be sober for at least one or
> two days in each year.
>
> So you've no excuse.
>
> Nick.

Perhaps Frank could do it each year

On the one day he's not p155ed

DieSea


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DieSea

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"Walt Davidson" <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:22:25 +0100, "DieSea"
> <DieSea.No...@nnttwlwoorrlldd.ccoomm> wrote:
>
>>>>You can update your details anytime - go do it now and you won't have to
>>>>do it until July 2014.
>>>
>>> I would, but I've forgotten how to do it.
>>>
>>> 73 de G3NYY
>>
>>Will some one go through it for our old codger Wlat
>>
>>A step by step guide would be helpful for an ancient Gee Free
>>
>>Tee Hee
>
> I think we may have to publish a step-by-step guide in OT News around
> Christmas 2011, otherwise the number of licensed members in RAOTA will
> suddenly reach an all-time low!
>
> Tee hee.

>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
> --
> Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com

Now there's a sensible idea

The first in a decade

DieSea


Roger Leighton

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Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:57:16 +0100, Yeti <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
>
>> You can update your details anytime - go do it now and you won't have to
>> do it until July 2014.
>
> I would, but I've forgotten how to do it.
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>

I know how to do it but can't remember my username or password !
If you try to get a new one your told 'only one user allowed per e-mail
address'.
Could use another e-maol address but I think i'll wait 'til 2011 ;-)

Roger G4OWG

Steve Terry

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<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:57:16 +0100, Yeti <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
>>Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:
>>> "Brian Reay" <seewe...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2kg3m.2517$zU6....@newsfe04.ams2...
>>>
>>> My lifetime licence was issued 2 March 2007. Will I be contacted around
>>> 2 March 2012 to renew, or is this something else to try to remember? I
>>> can't be far from getting my first MEMORY FULL error, this could cause
>>> it.
>>
>>You can update your details anytime - go do it now and you won't have to
>>do it until July 2014.
>
> Exactly!
> You see Frank, the National Statistics Office worked out that in any
> five year period, the odds were pretty good that even the most
> consistently inebriated individual, would be sober for at least one or
> two days in each year.
> So you've no excuse.
> Nick.
>
>
But it'll make more interesting reading updating details when drunk

Steve Terry


Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:57:16 +0100, Yeti <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
>
>>Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:
>>> "Brian Reay" <seewe...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2kg3m.2517$zU6....@newsfe04.ams2...
>>>
>>> My lifetime licence was issued 2 March 2007. Will I be contacted around
>>> 2 March 2012 to renew, or is this something else to try to remember? I
>>> can't be far from getting my first MEMORY FULL error, this could cause
>>> it.
>>
>>You can update your details anytime - go do it now and you won't have to
>>do it until July 2014.
>
>
> Exactly!
> You see Frank, the National Statistics Office worked out that in any
> five year period, the odds were pretty good that even the most
> consistently inebriated individual, would be sober for at least one or
> two days in each year.
>
> So you've no excuse.
>
> Nick.

WHAT??? I've got to stay sober for a whole DAY?

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Johnny Melvin

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Which remindes me,

Has anyone seen Maggy my XYL ?

de Johnny G3LIV


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Steve Terry

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"Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI" <g3...@turner-smith.co.uk> wrote in message
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> ;-)
> .
>
You are Father Jack from Craggy Isle and i claim my 5 Irish euro

Steve Terry


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Walt Davidson <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> I had kept a note of how to do it, and also a note of my Username and
> password ... BUT the system would not accept either. It would not
> accept the Username and password for my Club callsign either. I used
> to be able to log in to both these licence records, and I have made no
> changes since then.
>
> I phoned the Ofcom Help line and waited in a queue for 10 minutes.
> The lady who answered said I couldn't get in because "My first name
> and surname did not have capital letters at the beginning". She
> changed this and then told me to try again. Now I could log in to the
> site but I couldn't see my licences!
>
> Next, I had to divulge my password to the lady so that she could log
> in under my Username!!! Now she told me all my licence records were
> duplicated, and that was why I couldn't see them. She will try to fix
> it and I am to try logging in again in half an hour. So I'm no
> farther forward.

Same thing happened to me, apparantly the database got badly screwed
sometime back in the early days. After waiting an hour to give the
lady plenty of time it all came right.
Someone said the confustion was caused by my having a reciprocal licence
so they did not have any RAE records - sounds daft to me.

g4jci

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Brian Morrison

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luc...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:38:19 +0100, Walt Davidson
> <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>> Of course you can always 'renew' by sending them a letter.
>> And a cheque for £20.
>>
>> 73 de Wlat
>
> NO! You can renew by post without any payment, providing you're
> already on the system. The £20 charge is if you are not on the
> database.

That's useful to know, thanks Nick!

--

Brian

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Johnny Melvin

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<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:56:21 +0100, "Johnny Melvin" <joh...@melvin.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Has anyone seen Maggy my XYL ?
>>
>>de Johnny G3LIV
>
>
> She's not down here.
>
> Nick.

You would B****Y know if she was LOL,

de Johnny G3LIV.


Des Kinvig

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> I have several items of proof that I was once licenced. I just wish I
> could work out what I did with the bloody paperwork after having let my
> licence lapse for 16 years!
>

you were only 15 you had better things to do .....


Slartibartfast

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Sadly there are a few raving idiots who have no idea there are 100k+ news
groups, and a simple search would give them the correct NG for their stupid
witterings.

It is possible to get people banned from their ISP as off-topic posting is
contrary to the terms and conditions of use. This needs a quite concerted
effort from several different people with the inclusion of the headers so
the posts can be tracked.

Although, a few brain cells put to work by just a very few morons could sort
it all out as this is not a moderated group, worst luck.

From Jimbo's Radio Shack ...

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> It is possible to get people banned from their ISP as off-topic posting is
> contrary to the terms and conditions of use. This needs a quite concerted
> effort from several different people with the inclusion of the headers so
> the posts can be tracked.
>

I know ... they are after me ........ all Masons I think ......


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Dave

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Walt Davidson wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:44:28 +0100, luc...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:38:19 +0100, Walt Davidson
>> <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Of course you can always 'renew' by sending them a letter.
>>> And a cheque for �20.
>>>
>>> 73 de Wlat
>> NO! You can renew by post without any payment, providing you're
>> already on the system. The �20 charge is if you are not on the
>> database.
>
> Yes, upon further investigation you are right! Well, I think I'll
> have to do it that way, as I can't access my licences online.

Who are you going to write to Walt? I might have the same problem.

Dave

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Dave

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Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:22:47 +0100, Dave <dave...@btopenworld.com>
> wrote:

>
>> Walt Davidson wrote:
>
>>>> NO! You can renew by post without any payment, providing you're
>>>> already on the system. The �20 charge is if you are not on the
>>>> database.
>>> Yes, upon further investigation you are right! Well, I think I'll
>>> have to do it that way, as I can't access my licences online.
>> Who are you going to write to Walt? I might have the same problem.
>
> Amateur and Maritime Team
> Ofcom Licensing Centre
> PO Box 56373
> London SE1 9SZ

Ah!

I was going to write to

OFCOM
Riverside House
2a Southwark Bridge Road.
London
SE1 9HA

But the address you posted above looks like a better bet.

Thanks Walt

Dave

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Steve Terry

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"From Jimbo's Radio Shack ..." <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Naa it's racist, It's only cos you is Scottish

Do a Cat Stevens, no not turn Muslim, stop writing good music

Steve Terry


Des Kinvig

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"Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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I'm gonna get me a gun was a good one ....


Des Kinvig

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>> Do a Cat Stevens, no not turn Muslim, stop writing good music
>>
>> Steve Terry
>>
> I'm gonna get me a gun was a good one ....
>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBuUtvFObQE


Owners Club@nicksplace.co.com The Brains of the Outfit...

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Jul 3, 2009, 7:13:43 PM7/3/09
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"Slartibartfast" <Slartib...@Norway-Coastline.net> wrote in message
news:h2logh$es$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

> Sadly there are a few raving idiots who have no idea there are 100k+ news
> groups, and a simple search would give them the correct NG for their
> stupid witterings.
>
And of those, 99.999% know not to top-post.

Therefore, you are a cnut and ICMFP...

Owners Club@nicksplace.co.com The Brains of the Outfit...

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<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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>
> Remind us old son. Who was it who posted 500+ lines of anagrams in
> this message: e4k3ad$r65$1...@emma.aioe.org
>
Indeed, Me Lord...

Seems to me, he's the Forest Gump of Amateur Radio...

Or should that be, He's the...

Pet For Mugs
Pet For Smug
Pet For Gums
Pet Fur Smog

Or,
Gump! What's your sole purpose in Amateur Radio?
To do whatever you tell me, Steve Terry...

tox


Owners Club@nicksplace.co.com The Brains of the Outfit...

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"Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message
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>
>
> I got my class A licence when I was 15 so I'm not exactly ancient.

In which case, you should be well aware, that when you have a QSO, your
conversation is not restricted solely to Amateur Radio matters. Therefore,
why on earth do you feel, this forum is any different?.

Having subscribed to this forum for more years than I care to remember, I
can safely say, at least half the postings are not directly connected to AR
issues. IMHO, if every topic was strictly related to AR, this NG, would have
folded at least seven years ago...

HTH

tox


Dave

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Jul 3, 2009, 8:14:14 PM7/3/09
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I watched that film a few days ago...

RAOTFLMAO

Tox, do not do that to me at my stage of life. I'm not into wetting
myself, but I got close with your post. :-((

Dave :-)

JC Morrice

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In article <st0t45p57pe3597ba...@4ax.com>, Walt Davidson
<g3...@invalid.invalid> writes

>On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:49:25 +0100, Dave <dave...@btopenworld.com>

>The address I posted above is the one currently given as the contact
>point for Amateur Licensing on the Ofcom website.

In fact a good address, given on the form and web site, is:

Ofcom Licensing Centre
PO Box 56373
London
SE1 9SZ

I re-did mine just last week and the update came back almost return of
post. Download and print off your form, fill in and stuff in a stamped
envelope the old fashioned way.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/applica
tions/


John
--
JC Morrice
jo...@pentode.demon.co.uk

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Brian Reay

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"The Brains of the Outfit..." <Trabant Owners Cl...@nicksplace.co.com> wrote
in message news:iPw3m.51219$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com...

I don't think that is true. I think the contributor list would be very
different, which would remove much of the abuse, but I don't think it would
fold. (If you check those who tend to hurl the abuse you will find they
rarely, if ever, offer a worthwhile input on the topics related to amateur
radio.) I can think of several other groups which are doing rather well,
simply because the troublemakers are kept out. People don't always agree in
those groups and sometimes can't even agree to differ but they don't hurl
abuse.

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Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.or.uk


Des Kinvig

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> fold. (If you check those who tend to hurl the abuse you will find they
> rarely, if ever, offer a worthwhile input on the topics related to amateur
> radio.)

We must all do what we are best at .......


Steve Terry

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"Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
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> 73
> Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
>
>
But Brian you are the living embodiment that this NG isn't only about
Amateur radio, and in your case not even for Radio Amateurs

Steve Terry


Dead Paul

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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:16:24 +0100, Mr Benn wrote:

> "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message

> news:fe43m.12782$wR3....@newsfe21.ams2...


>> "Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote in message

>> news:KKqdndPk-J76X9HX...@pipex.net...


>
>>> I have another question. I used to be a G4 many years ago but let my
>>> licence lapse around 1992. I am considering getting licenced again but
>>> have no idea where my RAE & morse pass certificates are. Are these
>>> needed for Ofcom to re-issue a licence?
>>

>> If you've some proof you held the callsign there should be an issue. An
>> old licence would be the best but if you can demonstrate holding the
>> callsign by, for example a photocopy of the relevant entry in the RSGB
>> callbook, and that entry relates to you, OFCOM will (re)issue your
>> licence with your old callsign- no need to take any exams etc.
>>
>> You can download the form from the OFCOM website, fill it in, enclose
>> the proof, and £20 and all should be well. Once you've get the licence
>> you will be "on the system" and so get a username and password to
>> "renew" your licence every 5 years for free. The £20 is just to "get on
>> the system".
>>
>> Welcome back.
>
> Thank you Brian for the information and sensible reply.

impertinant sod

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<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:30:55 GMT, "The Brains of the Outfit..."
> <Trabant Owners Cl...@nicksplace.co.com> wrote:
>
>>Gump! What's your sole purpose in Amateur Radio?
>>To do whatever you tell me, Steve Terry...
>>
>>tox
>
> I see you got a mention in that film...
>
> "I was shot in the butt Tox"

LOL, so I did.

> p.s. Are we making profit anywhere this weekend, Tox?

Unless you're a banker or a lawyer, profit seems to be a dirty word these
days, Me Lord ;-)

tox


Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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"The Brains of the Outfit..." <Trabant Owners Cl...@nicksplace.co.com> wrote
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I thought all the profits went to the Penthouse with their lottery winnings.
--
;-)
.
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
.
http://turner-smith.co.uk

Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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"Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI" <g3...@turner-smith.co.uk> wrote in message
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oh sorry, that's prophets innit?

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"Brian Morrison" <b...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:40:06 +0100
> Walt Davidson <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >Who are you going to write to Walt? I might have the same problem.
>>
>> Amateur and Maritime Team
>> Ofcom Licensing Centre
>> PO Box 56373
>> London SE1 9SZ
>
> Kellogg's Consumer Services
> PO Box 356
> Warrington
> WA4 6XY.
> Brian Morrison
>
>
Naa... the box top off one is worth more

Steve Terry


star...@invalid.invalid

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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 08:26:46 +0100, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid>
wrote:

>different, which would remove much of the abuse, but I don't think it would
>fold. (If you check those who tend to hurl the abuse you will find they

Would you include people who spell the word NONSENSE beginning it with
a B and ending in OCKS ?

Would you include people who bait people by using words like BLANKET ?

Or how about people who use ASPERGERS SYNDROME as some sort of
put-down ?

star...@invalid.invalid

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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 08:26:46 +0100, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid>
wrote:

>rarely, if ever, offer a worthwhile input on the topics related to amateur

>radio.) I can think of several other groups which are doing rather well,

Yes Brian...

You once put yourself about as a pilot using the phrase 'when I
learned to fly' only to have your pal STAN blow the whistle

You tried telling people that you used to design navigation systems
but you couldnt recognise an NDB aerial as you drove by it.

You tried claiming some sort of ADVANCED B-LICENCE because you passed
the Morse assessment... A morse assessment that one well know M1
described as "my dog could do it"

star...@invalid.invalid

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On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:43:21 +0100, "Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI"
<g3...@turner-smith.co.uk> wrote:

>My lifetime licence was issued 2 March 2007. Will I be contacted around 2
>March 2012 to renew, or is this something else to try to remember? I can't
>be far from getting my first MEMORY FULL error, this could cause it.

of course not... that costs money.

star...@invalid.invalid

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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:26:15 +0100, Walt Davidson
<g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>I think we may have to publish a step-by-step guide in OT News around
>Christmas 2011, otherwise the number of licensed members in RAOTA will
>suddenly reach an all-time low!

I suggest that you publish a reminder every December

star...@invalid.invalid

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On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:16:24 +0100, "Mr Benn" <%%%@%.%%> wrote:

>Thank you Brian for the information and sensible reply. I have several

>items of proof that I was once licenced. I just wish I could work out what
>I did with the bloody paperwork after having let my licence lapse for 16
>years!

He may make sense now...but wait till you read what else he posts.

Brian Reay

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<star...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:4a4fa267...@news.albasani.net...

> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 08:26:46 +0100, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>different, which would remove much of the abuse, but I don't think it
>>would
>>fold. (If you check those who tend to hurl the abuse you will find they
>
> Would you include people who spell the word NONSENSE beginning it with
> a B and ending in OCKS ?
>
> Would you include people who bait people by using words like BLANKET ?

You've still not told us what is wrong with that word. Why does it "bait"
you (or anyone else)?

>
> Or how about people who use ASPERGERS SYNDROME as some sort of
> put-down ?

You keep mentioning Aspergers. Is there something you'd like to tell us?


Dave

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star...@invalid.invalid wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 08:26:46 +0100, "Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> rarely, if ever, offer a worthwhile input on the topics related to amateur
>> radio.) I can think of several other groups which are doing rather well,
>
> Yes Brian...
>
> You once put yourself about as a pilot using the phrase 'when I
> learned to fly' only to have your pal STAN blow the whistle
>
> You tried telling people that you used to design navigation systems
> but you couldnt recognise an NDB aerial as you drove by it.

WTF has recognition of an aerial got to do with the design of the system
that is going to use it? They are 2 total different entities.

Dave

Brian Reay

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"Dave" <dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> You tried telling people that you used to design navigation systems
>> but you couldnt recognise an NDB aerial as you drove by it.
>
> WTF has recognition of an aerial got to do with the design of the system
> that is going to use it? They are 2 total different entities.
>

Plus, NDBs aren't really in the same class as the various systems I was
involved with.

--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk

Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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Jul 4, 2009, 6:44:14 PM7/4/09
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<star...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Would you include people who spell the word NONSENSE beginning it with
> a B and ending in OCKS ?
>
Nah, everyone knows that word ends in OX

Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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<star...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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You may well be right, old Bean. Time will tell.

star...@invalid.invalid

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On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:56:15 +0100, Dave <dave...@btopenworld.com>
wrote:

>WTF has recognition of an aerial got to do with the design of the system
>that is going to use it? They are 2 total different entities.


Wake-up at the back !


NDBs are NAVIGATION BEACONS

Brian claimed that he designed NAVIGATIONS SYSTEMS
of which ADF is one.
He also claimed to have 'learned to fly' and for that matter
been involved in Amateur Radio for the last 25 years.

Wake-up at the back

star...@invalid.invalid

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Jul 4, 2009, 8:09:51 PM7/4/09
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:07:57 +0100, "Brian Reay"
<seewe...@invalid.com> wrote:

>Plus, NDBs aren't really in the same class as the various systems I was
>involved with.


Oh I see...suddenly theres a difference !

Yet again.... your knowledge springs another hole.

Brian Reay

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<star...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:4a4fee83...@news.albasani.net...

> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:56:15 +0100, Dave <dave...@btopenworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>>WTF has recognition of an aerial got to do with the design of the system
>>that is going to use it? They are 2 total different entities.
>
>
> Wake-up at the back !
>
>
> NDBs are NAVIGATION BEACONS

Actually the N in NDB is for Non (as in Non-Directional Beacon). They are,
in the scheme of things, a very crude nav. aid when compared to the sort of
thing I was involved in which, in the main, had some sort of inertial based
unit as their focus.


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