Yaesu FT100 ( Peter Hart review) !!
Brian Waddell
utter TOSH comes to mind) How can anyone give a review like that and then
recommend the radio "AS BEING VERY EFFECTIVE AND A GOOD BUY" good god
someone would have to be running a couple of K on 70Mhz before you would
hear him with an FT100.
The IC706 got a better report ( and that is a pretty poor performer )
It is high time we got the same standard of performance reporting as you get
in the USA
If the rig is a heap of junk I wish folk would just say so ( but then ML&S
might not let him play with more new junk again )
Best 73's de Brian.
==========================================
*****************If you are looking for performance build and Elecraft
K2*******************
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chris
Are they a heap of crap?...
I know DSP is a cheapo way around the real problem, but is the FT100 (field
commander... tee hee!) worth avoiding.
Chris
Brian Waddell wrote in message <3758...@eeyore.callnetuk.com>...
Alan Ralph
Brian Waddell wrote in message <3758...@eeyore.callnetuk.com>...
>Well just what can one say about Peter Hart's review in RadCom, not a lot
would have to be running a couple of K on 70Mhz before you would
>hear him with an FT100.
Very strange comments, considering the FT100 does not cover the 70Mhz band,
neither does the IC706 ?
regards Alan
Alan Ralph
I think you will find the statement regarding 70Mhz is true of any rig using
a 68 Mhz IF. The author was just trying to explain why the IC706 and FT100
will NEVER work on 4 metres, unlike the FT847 where I have worked at least
20 station in the UK ranging from Dorset to Yorkshire, and GD ,which is not
bad for 15 watts.
73s Alan
Andy Lake
> Brian Waddell wrote ...
> >Well just what can one say about Peter Hart's review in RadCom, not a lot
> >utter TOSH comes to mind) How can anyone give a review like that someone
> >would have to be running a couple of K on 70Mhz before you would hear him
> >with an FT100.
> Very strange comments, considering the FT100 does not cover the 70Mhz band,
> neither does the IC706 ?
"....a general coverage all-mode receiver from 100kHz to 970MHz....."?
(Peter Hart, FT-100 review, RadCom, June 1999)
73
Andy
Reg Edwards
stood-back review of an amateur radio equipment in any
amateur radio magazine ?
Of course not. Its never been known to happen. Such
articles are patently adverts of something for sale
ultimately paid for by equipment purchasers and magazine
readers. Eventual beneficiaries are equipment
distributers, magazine publishers and authors.
What sensible distributor or agent would lend equipment,
free of charge, to an unqualified but imaginative author
unless he was confident the review article would include
such phrases as "A very good buy"? There's usually also
some jargon intended to impress the reader with the
reviewer's technical knowledge but which often has the
reverse effect.
I'm surprised anyone ever takes any serious notice of
equipment review articles published in the 'comics'.
---
Reg.
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Brian Waddell <gm4...@callnetuk.com> wrote in article
<3758...@eeyore.callnetuk.com>...
> Well just what can one say about Peter Hart's review in
RadCom, not a lot
> utter TOSH comes to mind) How can anyone give a review
like that and then
> recommend the radio "AS BEING VERY EFFECTIVE AND A GOOD
BUY" good god
> someone would have to be running a couple of K on 70Mhz
before you would
> hear him with an FT100.
> The IC706 got a better report ( and that is a pretty poor
performer )
>
> It is high time we got the same standard of performance
reporting as you get
> in the USA
>
> If the rig is a heap of junk I wish folk would just say
so ( but then ML&S
> might not let him play with more new junk again )
>
> Best 73's de Brian.
>
>
Johnny Melvin
Brian Waddell wrote in message <3758...@eeyore.callnetuk.com>...
>Well just what can one say about Peter Hart's review in RadCom, not a lot
> utter TOSH comes to mind) How can anyone give a review like that and then
>recommend the radio "AS BEING VERY EFFECTIVE AND A GOOD BUY" good god
>someone would have to be running a couple of K on 70Mhz before you would
>hear him with an FT100.
>The IC706 got a better report ( and that is a pretty poor performer )
>
>It is high time we got the same standard of performance reporting as you
get
>in the USA
>
>If the rig is a heap of junk I wish folk would just say so ( but then ML&S
>might not let him play with more new junk again )
>
>Best 73's de Brian.
>
> ==========================================
>*****************If you are looking for performance build and Elecraft
>K2*******************
> ==========================================
I am looking for a transceive project as I like building.
Whats a Elecraft K2.
de Johnny G3LIV joh...@melvin.com www.johnny.melvin.com
Simon Lewis
<joh...@melvin.com> writes
>
>I am looking for a transceive project as I like building.
>Whats a Elecraft K2.
>
>de Johnny G3LIV joh...@melvin.com www.johnny.melvin.com
>
>
take a look at their website: www.elecraft.com
and read my unbiased and self funded review in Radio Today this month.
73 Simon GM4PLM
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Brian Waddell
( Very strange comments, considering the FT100 does not cover 70Mhz )
Sorry Alan but read the review and the adverts again, the FT100 is
advertised as being general coverage receive including 70Mhz.
Many amateurs will want to work x-band ( BUT CERTAINLY NOT WITH AN FT100 )
The problem with magazine reviews in this country are that they are
manufacturer driven ie: the reviewer is scared to give an honest opinion as
he would not get another toy to play with. Worse still many amateurs accept
as fact the reviewers results and go and purchase equipment based on them.
****************As they say ( A fool and his money is easy
parted )************************
Best 73's..........Brian GM4XQJ
Nigel Hewitt
> Has anyone ever read a genuine, unbiassed, honest,
> stood-back review of an amateur radio equipment in any
> amateur radio magazine ?
I've never seen it in amateur radio but I
have seen it once in other fields.
A magazine called Soft was widely read once
(70s) and often told you what was wrong with
the product reviewed and once listed a Pascal
compiler's only good point as "You don't have
to buy it"
Needless to say despite the fact that everybody
I knew who read it liked it it didn't last long.
--
nigelH
G8JFT
DLR18SH
tranmit being distorted and the radio draws a lot of current for the power you
put out.
What should be of more concern is the fact that a large amount of FT-100 are
dying outright in the field. There is a LIST called the ONELIST and I read guys
who are on their 3rd radio as the radios have lots of bugs and die. The FT-100
has a lot of nice features but they have to get the bugs out. I would wait 1
year before you consider buying one.
CHEERS, TIM
Alan Ralph
give-away and if it works, fine, but if its performance was not up to much I
would not be too bothered. I have an FT847 and FT8500 both of which can
receive out of amateur bands, and I have only used the "facility" a few
times. ( I know its different here in that 4M is an amateur band). I guess
if reviews were more "critical" then we would have manufacturers lending
"specials", and true independent magazines would have to buy their own rigs
for review. A friend of mine works for a well known car manufacturer, and
they spend weeks preparing the car for review. Yes it is a production model,
but each one is tuned manually, and door hinges individually aligned
etc..Loads of sealant put into unused holes etc..
Alan
Brian Waddell wrote in message <375a...@eeyore.callnetuk.com>...
David Green
Unfortunately US based magazines don't seem to be available in the UK -
probably so you don't see the prices of equipment.
David M0CAY/VK3DGN
Reg Edwards wrote in message <01beaf9e$db06c4a0$b4caac3e@default>...
Jon Harris
wrote:
>Has anyone ever read a genuine, unbiassed, honest,
>stood-back review of an amateur radio equipment in any
>amateur radio magazine ?
>
>Of course not. Its never been known to happen. Such
>articles are patently adverts of something for sale
>ultimately paid for by equipment purchasers and magazine
>readers. Eventual beneficiaries are equipment
>distributers, magazine publishers and authors.
Funny you should say this. In the motorcylce press a certain model was
always praised to the hilt, until it ceased production. Then a design
fault "came" to light and they advised you to be aware. Now a new
version of the same bike is available and again it's the most reliable
bike in the world. Strange innit?
There again no-one forces us to buy them...
Cheers,
Jon.
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Jon Harris
Certainly the inside looks a lot more muddled than the 706, and it
looks as though a lot of last minute mods were made.
Have you got details of the onelist maillist?
Mike Willis
Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:22:53 +0100, "Brian Waddell"
> <gm4...@callnetuk.com> wrote:
>
> >If the rig is a heap of junk I wish folk would just say so ( but then ML&S
> >might not let him play with more new junk again )
>
> I couldn't have put it more succinctly myself.
Go on then Walt - design and produce a better one for the same price. It may
not be very high spec, but it is not total junk either.
I could not follow Peters' reasoning either. From what I have heard, it should
have been along the lines of, "a reasonable rig, with a moderate performance,
OK for places where the larger radios are unsuitable, but outclassed, at this
price point, by the IC706".
BTW - the IC706IIG is retailing for about £860 in the states and there is an
objective review in this months QST that Radcom reviewers could learn a lot
from.
Jon Harris
"@rl.ac.uk> wrote:
>Go on then Walt - design and produce a better one for the same price. It may
>not be very high spec, but it is not total junk either.
>BTW - the IC706IIG is retailing for about £860 in the states and there is an
>objective review in this months QST that Radcom reviewers could learn a lot
>from.
Where to you find QST asa a matter of interest? Suppose it's too much
to ask that it's on-line? :-(
Mike Willis
> to ask that it's on-line? :-(
I subscribe - it costs about the same as joining the RSGB to be in the ARRL and
receive QST via surface mail, and yes the reviews are on line, for ARRL members.
As the post takes so long, I read the IC706IIG review on the web.
Mike
Gareth Alun Evans
ISTR that QST is distributed by the RSCB. 'Nuff said?
--
--
The Chronicles Of Hypocri-ganda......
There is only one condition for the
murdering in Serbia to cease, and that
is, for the murderous cowards of NATO
to desist. No action is needed from the
Serbs.
We have no business in Serbia. The war is
a civil one that is nothing whatsoever to
do with us. Any of the cowards who make
up the British Armed Farces should be, quite
rightly, liable for prosecution for murder.
The diktat of NATO is NOT an "agreement"
and there is no reason why the Serbs should
subscribe to it.
One wonders why there should be so much
whining, bullshit and hypocriganda from
NATO if their cause is as just as they
claim?
Gary Peach
Jon Harris wrote
> Mike Willis wrote:
> >Go on then Walt - design and produce a better one for the same price. It
may
> >not be very high spec, but it is not total junk either.
> >BTW - the IC706IIG is retailing for about £860 in the states and there is
an
> >objective review in this months QST that Radcom reviewers could learn a
lot
> >from.
>
> to ask that it's on-line? :-(
As a matter of interest will ARRL take you if you are NOT a mamber of RSGB?
QST has always been better than RadComic
Gary7SLL
Philip de Cadenet
>QST seems to do very good reviews.
>
>Unfortunately US based magazines don't seem to be available in the UK -
>probably so you don't see the prices of equipment.
Alternatively, there's that chap that's at 'all' the decent rallies who
carries the three or four months up to date issues. Sorry, cannot
remember his name. I'm sure someone can give him a plug.
Phil G4ZOW
http://www.bigradios.com - My favourite site.
http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb285053 - My Cordless Phone Message Board.
Jon Harris
"@rl.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Where to you find QST asa a matter of interest? Suppose it's too much
>> to ask that it's on-line? :-(
>
>I subscribe - it costs about the same as joining the RSGB to be in the ARRL and
>receive QST via surface mail, and yes the reviews are on line, for ARRL members.
>As the post takes so long, I read the IC706IIG review on the web.
Thanks for that, obviously worth looking into!
Ged
itecliffsdx.freeserveDEADWOOD.co.uk> writes
>On Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:51:02 +0100, Mike Willis <"M.J.Willis
>"@rl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Where to you find QST asa a matter of interest? Suppose it's too much
>>> to ask that it's on-line? :-(
>>
>>I subscribe - it costs about the same as joining the RSGB to be in the ARRL and
>>receive QST via surface mail, and yes the reviews are on line, for ARRL
>members.
>>As the post takes so long, I read the IC706IIG review on the web.
>
>Thanks for that, obviously worth looking into!
>Cheers,
>
>Jon.
and then promptly forgot about telling the ARRL. A verbal complaint to
the President at the time...a CB'er called Trotman was met with the
reply ' Oh I didn't know the RSCB took ARRL subscriptions'. Right bloody
plonker he was.
Go direct JON....you actually do get a good service and a good magazine.
Its everything the RSCB isn't....
Regards
--
Ged
Jon Harris
<g...@montgomery61.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Don't subscribe via the RSCB though. When I did that, they took the cash
>and then promptly forgot about telling the ARRL. A verbal complaint to
>the President at the time...a CB'er called Trotman was met with the
>reply ' Oh I didn't know the RSCB took ARRL subscriptions'. Right bloody
>plonker he was.
<groan> it does make you wonder how they get in that position doesn't
it?
>Go direct JON....you actually do get a good service and a good magazine.
>Its everything the RSCB isn't....
Thank you for that, I'll have a look today.
73
Mike Willis
Of course they will. Just give them the credit card details.
Mike Willis
Gareth Alun Evans wrote:
>
> ISTR that QST is distributed by the RSCB. 'Nuff said?
Complete and utter rubbish. QST comes from the ARRL. Just because the RSGB can
convert your pounds to dollars and can arrange your membership does not mean
they distribute or have any influence on QST.
Gareth Alun Evans
Complete and utter rubbish. It has been a complaint repeated here often,
that QST distribution is controlled by the RSCB. Have things now changed?
If so, then I would gladly join the ARRL rather than that apology for a
bunch of CBing eyelid twitchers* that has become the RSCB of today.
BTW, Mike, what happened to your friend to whom I donated the
ferrite core stores - any progress on that project?
*sorry, "Winkers".
--
The Chronicles Of Hypocri-ganda......
If a principle is just and moral, then it will apply to all people and
at all times.
Let us, therefore, invite the Yugoslavs, (or anyone who feels that
their cause is just) to carry out a bombing campaign in England.
(Indeed, they need not ape the cowardly and murderous attacks
of NATO on civilians. All they would need to do is to identify no
more than say, ten 400kV pylon lines, and bring down one pylon
on each; this would shut the country right down; and, if the
chosen pylons were to be well out in the country, then no-one
would even be scratched, thus giving the Yugoslavs the high
moral ground)
Why should we invite such a campaign? Well, firstly there is the
matter of ethnic cleansing carried out by Britain in the island of
Diego Garcia - all the natives were moved out so that the island
could be handed over to the Yanks as an air farce base.
Secondly, there is the continued armed occupation by Britain of
the island of Ireland. Completely unjustifiable, and evil and
murderous over many decades. Of course, as soon as Britain
agreed to withdraw, and actually started to withdraw, under the
supervision of a UN monitoring force, then the campaign
should cease.
Now, is there anything wrong with the above argument?
Andy Lake
> On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:13:03 +0100, Ged
> <g...@montgomery61.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Don't subscribe via the RSCB though. When I did that, they took the cash
> >and then promptly forgot about telling the ARRL. A verbal complaint to
> >the President at the time...a CB'er called Trotman was met with the
> >reply ' Oh I didn't know the RSCB took ARRL subscriptions'. Right bloody
> >plonker he was.
> <groan> it does make you wonder how they get in that position doesn't it?
But he's passed the 12wpm morse test - surely he must be OK??
73!
Andy
Jon Harris
wrote:
>AS I SAID BEFORE IF YOU LOVE THESE MURDEROUS SERBIAN
>SCUM SO MUCH THEN WHY DON'T YOU FUCK OFF OVER THERE
>AND JOIN THEM OR PERHAPS YOU PREFER THE MURDERING
>SCUM OF THE P.I.R.A AS BED CHUMS.
Don't forget the murderous scum that is the KLA...
An English teacher once tried to get us to describe the difference
between a terrorist and a freedom fighter. In his opinion, it's all
down to whose side they're on...
Pete Bliss
Adi sender 145
BOTH for $175.00 FIRM...
Pete Bliss n4uqs
lif...@cheta.net
DLR18SH
had a very high failure rate. I have heard from countless HAMS and even the
Salespeople at the Ham stores in the USA are steering the Hams towards teh
IC-706
MK II G is the subject of reliability comes up. I think Yaesu has a lot of
technical issues they didn't address when they released the radio.
Cheers, TIM