USA originated Nazism, Nazi salutes, robotic group-chanting to flags, and the modern swastika
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flags, and the modern swastika, as shown in the research of the noted
historian Dr. Rex Curry. The bizarre acts in the USA began as early as 1875
and continued through the creation of the National Socialist German Workers'
Party (German Nazis or NSGWP). The NSGWP had clear roots in National
Socialism promoted by socialists in the USA. Amazing graphic images that
prove the point are at
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html
The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws that require
robotic chanting to a national flag in government schools (socialist
schools) every day for 12 years. It has changed generations of Americans
from libertarians to authoritarians. The government bamboozled individuals
into believing that robotic group-chanting in government schools is a
beautiful expression of freedom.
Chatter Nougat Chew-Chew
"Institute for Journalism" wrote:
> The United States originated Nazism, Nazi salutes, robotic group-chanting to
> flags, and the modern swastika, as shown in the research of the noted
> historian Dr. Rex Curry.
Any relation to Peter Simple, are you? ;-)
"Institute for Journalism"
But back to the original post topic: here is something you might also enjoy.
Wikipedia is announcing amazing discoveries by the noted historian Dr. Rex
Curry concerning the British Union of Fascists and National Socialists
(BUFNS). Dr. Curry has established that the BUFNS logo represented an "S"
letter for "Socialists."
http://rexcurry.net/british-union-of-fascists-sir-oswald-mosley.html
The BUFNS logo supports Dr. Curry's discovery that the swastika was used as
alphabetic symbolism for overlapping "S" letters for "socialism" under the
National Socialist German Workers' Party. Dr. Curry's discoveries have
changed the way that people think about the swastika.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
The straight-arm salute used by the BUFNS originated in the USA's Pledge of
Allegiance, as proven in Dr. Curry's research work.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html
From its foundation in October 1932 up to 1935, the British Union of
Fascists used as its symbol a fasces. In 1935 the movement was renamed
"British Union of Fascists and National Socialists" in order to align itself
more with German National Socialism, and the fasces was replaced by a the
"S" letter bolt of lightning.
The National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSGWP) originally was named
the "German Workers' Party." Later, the name was changed to add "National
Socialist" and the swastika was adopted and came to represent "S" letters
for "Socialist."
The use of the swastika as "S" symbolism for socialism originated in the
United States, along with robotic group-chanting to flags, Nazism and Nazi
salutes. The bizarre acts in the USA began as early as 1875 and continued
through the creation of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German
Nazis or NSGWP). The NSGWP had clear roots in National Socialism promoted by
socialists in the USA. Amazing graphic images that prove the point are at
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html
The American Pledge and salute from American socialists was the origin of
the salutes of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the Peoples'
Republic of China, and the National Socialist German Workers' Party, and it
inspired their robotic chanting and worship of government and flags and
symbols in their government schools (socialist schools).
http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika-cccp-sssr.html
The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws that require
robotic chanting to a national flag in government schools (socialist
schools) every day for 12 years.
Wikipedia has also helped to spread the news about Dr. Curry's discovery
that the USA's early Pledge of Allegiance to the flag (1892) used the
straight-arm salute for three decades before it was adopted by the monstrous
National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSGWP).
http://rexcurry.net/wikipedia-the-free-encyclopedia.html
Wikipedia has previously informed its readers about Dr. Curry's work in an
Opinion Editorials article showing that the former Union of Soviet Socialist
Republics may have preceded the National Socialist German Workers' Party in
using the swastika as overlapping "S" letters for "Socialism."
http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/rcurry_20060929.html
Wikipedia is known as an online encyclopedia. The Wiki article repeats
information from the Opinion Editorials article by Dr. Curry under the title
"Swastika," with the sub heading "Russia."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Russia
The British Union of Fascists and National Socialists is often compared with
the American First Committee that was operated contemporaneously in the USA
by Charles Lindbergh. The BUFNS is sometimes called the "Britain First
Committee."
Another Wikipedia article on the "Bellamy salute" references Dr. Curry's
work showing that Charles Lindbergh and other Americans were photographed
performing the early straight-arm salute to the U.S. flag, and that those
photographs were used later to imply cooperation with German National
Socialists.
http://rexcurry.net/america-first-committee-charles-lindbergh-wikipedia-org-wiki.html
A photograph of Lindbergh performing the salute is at
http://rexcurry.net/america-first-committee-charles-lindbergh.JPG
In his Pulitzer prize winning biography "Lindbergh," author A. Scott Berg
also agrees with Dr. Curry's assertion that photographs of Americans
performing the early Pledge salute were used to imply cooperation with the
National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSGWP). It is interesting to note
that when the "Lindbergh" biography was written, the author Berg failed to
make Dr. Curry's discovery that the American salute was the origin of the
German Socialist salute.
The raised-arm salute was created (1892) by an American (Francis Bellamy)
who was a self-proclaimed socialist in the Nationalism movement in the USA.
The American salute pre-dated the NSGWP by 30 years.
Amazon.com adopted as its policies recommendations advocated by Dr. Curry
and reported in Opinion Editorials.
http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/rcurry_20061027.html
Amazon's web site deletes and discourages use of the common 4-letter
shorthand n-word for "National Socialist German Workers' Party" within
Amazon's reviews, product information, tags and other uses. By fighting the
shorthand term, Amazon encourages customers to learn and to use the actual
accurate name of the monstrous group: National Socialist German Workers'
Party. http://rexcurry.net/amazon-com-book-reviews-tags-discussions.html
For a long time, Dr. Curry has exposed widespread ignorance in the media and
in the general public about what the 4-letter abbreviation abbreviates. That
etymological ignorance has grown through overuse of the hackneyed shorthand
term in print and in government schools (socialist schools). Dr. Curry
advocated that the shorthand term should be avoided, unless it is used in
conjunction with the full actual name of the Party. Amazon is helping Dr.
Curry to reverse the ignorant habit within the media and the public.
The American socialist Francis Bellamy was cousin and cohort to Edward
Bellamy, another famous socialist and the author of the novel "Looking
Backward." Edward's book was an international bestseller, translated into
every major language (including Russian, German and Chinese). The Bellamy
dogma inspired the "Nationalism" movement in the USA, Germany and worldwide.
Edward inspired the creation of the Nationalist Party. Edward and Francis
supported the Nationalist Magazine, the Nationalist Educational Association,
and Nationalist Clubs everywhere.
There may be other parallels with the America First Committee, in that
Bellamy nationalists focused on nationalism ("my country over others"),
nativism, rabid patriotism (e.g. Pledges of Allegiance in government schools
with the original straight-arm salute), a government takeover of schools,
and desires for government ownership and control of everything. They wanted
to nationalize everything and they wanted all of society to ape the military
and they touted "military socialism" and the "industrial army."
The Bellamys and the pledge inspired socialists worldwide, and in the
socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part): 62 million
slaughtered under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; 49 million
slaughtered under the Peoples' Republic of China; 21 million slaughtered
under the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
The National Socialist German Workers' Party clearly patterned itself upon
the National Socialism promoted by socialists in the USA during the three
decades before the NSGWP existed.
Three decades before the National Socialist German Workers' Party existed,
socialists in the USA had promoted National Socialism, the straight-arm
salute, collective robotic chanting, and the modern swastika as an "S"
symbol for "socialism."
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html
A Harvard graduate, Ernst Hanfstaengl, personally assisted the leader of the
NSGWP in promoting national socialism with more ideas from America.
http://rexcurry.net/swastika-hanfstaengl.html
The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws that require
robotic chanting to a national flag in government schools (socialist
schools) every day for 12 years.
The Bellamys promoted a government takeover of schools, the placement of
flags at schools, and robotic chanting of the pledge to the flag with the
old notorious gesture. When the government granted their wishes, the
government schools imposed segregation by law and taught racism as official
government policy. The schools mandated the robotic chanting of the pledge
with the straight-arm salute and persecuted and expelled children who would
not comply, arrested parents, and even took children from parents on
allegations of "unfit parenting." There were acts of violence and
lynchings.
The USA still follows similar anti libertarian policies promoted by the
Bellamys. Many socialist policies caused the USA's big, expensive,
oppressive government, its aggressive military socialism, and its growing
police state. It caused the Great Socialist Depression (from the Federal
Reserve Act of 1913, the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act 1930 etc) that persisted
and even lasted through U.S. involvement in WWII. The Pledge still exists
along with laws mandating that teachers lead the robotic chanting every day
for twelve years of each child's life (though the salute was altered). The
government still owns and operates schools, including the same schools that
imposed segregation by law and taught racism as official government policy.
That policy even outlasted the National Socialist German Workers' Party by
over 15 years. After segregation in government's schools ended, the Bellamy
legacy caused more police-state racism of forced busing that destroyed
communities and neighborhoods and deepened hostilities. Those schools still
exist. Infants are given social security numbers (socialist slave numbers
from 1935 during the NSGWP) that track and tax everyone for life.
Government schools (socialist schools) demand the numbers for enrollment.
The pledge and the flag have become examples of how dangerous government
schools are (and how dangerous government is in general). The brainwashing
ritual has indoctrinated many students of government schools with the
national socialist propaganda.
Support for Dr. Curry's discoveries also comes from the Oxford English
Dictionary (OED).
http://rexcurry.net/roman-salute-oxford-english-dictionary.html
Support also comes from the web site of the American Philological
Association. http://rexcurry.net/american-philological-association-apa.html
Dr. Curry's work has been recognized in the vexillological group Flags Of
The World (FOTW).
http://rexcurry.net/fotw-flags-of-the-world-vexillology.html
Similar recognition occurred in the flag group North American Vexillological
Association (NAVA).
http://rexcurry.net/north-american-vexillological-association-nava.html
Dr. Curry's news-making work is discussed on Odeo Radio.
http://odeo.com/audio/1747108/view
The discoveries are on Radio Indymedia.
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/10827.php
And also covered at Opinion Editorials at
http://www.opinioneditorials.com/writer.php?id=rcurry
With more at OpinionEditorials at
http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/rcurry_20050826.html
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
>
> The raised-arm salute was created (1892) by an American (Francis Bellamy)
> who was a self-proclaimed socialist in the Nationalism movement in the USA.
> The American salute pre-dated the NSGWP by 30 years.
And later copied by the Roman emperor Trajan, where it is depicted on
the column erected to celebrate his victories.
I guess that must have been around 1893...
--
Dirk
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"Institute for Journalism"
Otherwise, you are stupid in so many ways.
1. You stupidly claim that in 1893 the Roman emperor Trajan was depicted in
columns celebrating his victories.
2. You stupidly imply that you believe the "Roman salute" myth due to
something depicted on such a column.
3. You stupidly imply that the depiction was the origin of the straight-arm
salute that developed from the American National Socialist Francis Bellamy
in 1892.
4. You stupidly imply that the depiction was the origin of salute of German
National Socialism.
This is the time when you find a single image of someone with his hand
raised on something from ancient Rome and you spontaneously declare it to be
the mythical "Roman" salute, even though you know nothing about the scene
depicted, and the people who do have knowledge of the image have never said
that it was a "Roman salute" depicted.
Go ahead, everyone is waiting for you to show even moreso your stupidity.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Yeah.
Me and every reputable historian.
"Institute for Journalism"
anything in the posts.
Otherwise, Dirk is stupid in so many ways.
1. Dirk Bruere stupidly claims that in 1893 the Roman emperor Trajan was
columns celebrating his victories.
something depicted on such a column.
salute that developed from the American National Socialist Francis Bellamy
in 1892.
German
National Socialism.
This is the time when Dirk finds a single image of someone with his hand
raised on something from ancient Rome and Dirk spontaneously declares it to
be
the mythical "Roman" salute, even though Dirk knows nothing about the scene
depicted, and the people who do have knowledge of the image have never said
that it was a "Roman salute" depicted.
Go ahead, Dirk, everyone is waiting for you to show even moreso your
stupidity.
In reply to the above, Dirk could not even cite a single image nor a single
historian in support.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
"The salute was supposed to have been used in the Roman republic, but
there is no clear evidence of this. Indeed it is not known whether
salutes as military courtesy existed at all in Roman culture. However, a
number of images showing similar gestures exist from the Imperial era.
These depict Roman leaders addressing their troops ("adlocutio" scenes).
Usually the leader has his arm raised in a rhetorical gesture. In some
images a few troops are also depicted with raised arms, possibly
suggesting acclamation of the leader. Several such scenes appear on
Trajan's column.
The association of the gesture with Roman republican culture seems to
have emerged in 18th century France with revolutionary and
anti-monarchist movements of the era. Several paintings in the
Neoclassical style depict Roman heroes adopting variants of the gesture.
The most famous and influential of these is Jacques-Louis David's
painting The Oath of the Horatii (1784), which illustrates a pledge of
loyalty to the Roman republic. After the French Revolution of 1789,
David was commissioned to depict the formation of the revolutionary
government in a similar style. In the Tennis Court Oath (1792) the
National Assembly are all depicted with their arms outstretched as they
swear to create a new constitution. After the republican government was
replaced by Napoleon's imperial regime, David further deployed the
gesture in images of Napoleon receiving the acclamation and loyalty of
his soldiers. These consciously imitated ancient Roman adlocutio scenes.
The most important of these paintings is The Distribution of the Eagle
Standards (1810)."
So at best, attribute it to the French well before 1893
"Institute for Journalism"
But you are still confused in your desire to attribute it to the French
before 1893.
You should try to actually think about the things you quote, ESPECIALLY
wackipedia, which you probably know is a glorified anonymous bulletin board.
You should not "quote" it at all.
Try to focus on big warning words such as the word "seems" in the quote "The
association of the gesture....SEEMS to
have emerged......" That quote is practically telling you that you are
about to be duped.
If you actually look at the paintings mentioned in your second paragraph you
will see that they do not show what you are trying to support and they do
not show what is mentioned in the paragraph quoted. A tiny moment of
research would also show that the motivations or thoughts of the artist that
are implied in the paragrpah are also not supported anywhere else, not even
by the artist David. It is also interesting to note that the scenes (e.g.
the Tennis Court scene, or Horatii) are fictional scenes created by David
and not supported even in history as portrayed by David either. David was an
artist, not a person trying to factually reproduce actual moments in
history. You are another victim of wikipedia. The person who wrote the wiki
paragraph is similar to you in that he was attempting to find/create the
explanation he desired to assert. The article you quote used to be even
worse in that it used to actually claim that the salute was a Roman salute,
until the work of the historian Dr. Rex Curry was established and announced
by Wikipedia, and after that the article has been going downhill ever since
as wikipedia idiots alter and delete the facts while creating new myths to
post. Wikipedia has experienced many short bursts of accuracy (such as when
new discoveries by the noted historian Dr. Rex Curry are announced and
cited) but the accurate period is short as the idiots of the world return to
wikipedia to alter and delete the accurate information.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Nevertheless, the salute in that case was invented by the French at the
time of the French revolution.
The relevant part is:
"In the Tennis Court Oath (1792) the National Assembly are all depicted
with their arms outstretched as they swear to create a new constitution.
After the republican government was replaced by Napoleon's imperial
regime, David further deployed the gesture in images of Napoleon
receiving the acclamation and loyalty of his soldiers."
So America 1893 is 100 years and a continent away.
*Bill*
time of the French revolution. You have no reading comprehension, you are a
victim of government schools, and you mistake fantasy as reality, and you
cannot even see clearly, and you are a naive victim of an anonymous bulletin
board.
Try looking. You join the boob you quote in creating NEW myths. You have no
support for what you say other than your wishes.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> Nevertheless, the salute in that case was not invented by the French at the
> time of the French revolution. You have no reading comprehension, you are a
> victim of government schools, and you mistake fantasy as reality, and you
> cannot even see clearly, and you are a naive victim of an anonymous bulletin
> board.
>
> Try looking. You join the boob you quote in creating NEW myths. You have no
> support for what you say other than your wishes.
>
> Thanks for conceding that the previous post was correct.
>
> But you are still confused in your desire to attribute it to the French
> before 1893.
>
> You should try to actually think about the things you quote, ESPECIALLY
> wackipedia, which you probably know is a glorified anonymous bulletin board.
> You should not "quote" it at all.
You should try looking at the pictures, with the salute.
All painted before 1893
*Bill*
issue that you attempt to raise you end up conceding everything.
Dirk, you should try looking at the pictures, with the salute.
Here is what you concede about Dr. Curry's work regarding the single tiny
issue that you attempt to raise:
The event that served as inspiration for the painting did not actually occur
as depicted.
The artist did not actually see the event that inspired him.
The artist was not even attempting to discover the actual scene nor to paint
it as a factual record.
The artist has never referred to the scene he fabricated as showing an
"ancient Roman salute."
The artist has never referred to the scene he fabricated as showing
"salutes" at all.
The Tennis Court Oath does not show other people taking an oath.
The artist never represented the painting as showing other people joining in
an oath.
The word oath is singular in the painting's title, not plural.
The painting shows a single person in the center taking an oath.
Again, the actual event that inspired the artist did not occur as he painted
it.
The artist never claimed that the event that inspired him occurred as he
painted it.
You are creating new angles on the modern roman salute myth in an effort to
cover-up Dr. Curry's discoveries simply because you don't like reality and
you wish to pretend that something else happened.
Even the arguments you make have not been repeated in history. Your posts
have shown that you make stuff up as you go along, as you expand a mythical
phrase (the Roman salute) which you have already given up as an error, and
you continue in your effort to cover-up the discoveries of Dr. Rex Curry.
You are pathetic.
The person who wrote the wiki paragraph is similar to you in that he was
attempting to find/create the explanation he desired to assert in his effort
to cover-up the discoveries of the historian Dr. Rex Curry.
And despite all of the above, you concede Dr. Curry's work is correct in
that you never even attempt to assert that you made up new explanations ever
influenced Francis Bellamy.
You know that Bellamy explained how he created his salute and that it had
nothing to do with anything you have suggested.
You know that Bellamy never said the word "Roman salute," and there is no
evidence that such a thought ever existed in his head.
You know that you have not even had the guts to attempt to tie your flights
of imagination to the origin of the salute of the National Socialist German
Workers' Party, so you show how little belief you have in your own honesty.
You are pathetic.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
And you're a nut job