Question About Recent Tax Credits £487/week Claim
Maria
that tax credits discriminate against couples because a single parent
who works 16 hours a week will get £487/week income after tax credits.
Could some kind soul please explain how this was worked out? I know
plenty of low paid people on tax credits, and none of them get
anything like this - most get around £95/week or so plus meagre take
home pay. I have tried to find the calculations they used to come to
this conclusion, but all the media articles I found simply state the
claim and do not break down the figures.
Thanks.
Mikein...@aol.com
I found a link breaking it down when I posted about this some weeks
ago and put it in the thread. It came from a thinktank I think.
Field's report is online but gives the source as 'commons library'.
Not helpful.
Ah here we are. Have not tried it today.
John of Aix
FriarTuck
you has probably gots to be a single lesbian labour supporting mother
recent immigrant with XDR TB, AIDS and a crack habit.
FriarTuck
not sure that would be any help to a mathematician with a PhD in
astrophysics... ;)
Maria
Thanks. Still a bit confused, but anyway...
The argument appears to be that since Joe Normal would have to earn
millions of pounds to get the same amount in take home pay - since
when has that been an argument for not paying subsistence benefits?
Surely that's an argument for reducing the tax burden/increasing the
minimum wage, so that both benefit claimant and hard-working man can
survive without recourse to the government!
Maria
Not according to Entitled To (which works these things out). Using the
entitle to calculator I can get it to around £200 net for single
parent earning NMW for 16 hours/week.
However, a friend of mine has just come off that scenario because
1) they only got around half the figure suggested and
2) her housing benefit was negligible and she had private rent of
£550/month to pay. The calculator suggests that they would pay
£86/week of her rent, but they certainly did not.
Mikein...@aol.com
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How did she pay all that rent from earnings of 16 hrs? Perhaps there
is some other element your friend has not mentioned? Or maybe they
made a mistake. That is rife with benefits. People need to study the
system. There are manuals on means tested benefits in libraries. I
have an old copy from 1997 called the Benefits Guide.
Mikein...@aol.com
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She could have asked the CAB to advise whether she was getting the
right amount.
Maria
>On 28 Jun, 07:31, Maria <theoldwomanwholivedinas...@shoe.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:36:08 GMT, FriarTuck
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>> <a...@spammerstheygothehouse.con> wrote:
>> >On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:18:47 +0100, Maria wrote:
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>> >> I am reading all over the media this recent claim from Frank Field
>> >> that tax credits discriminate against couples because a single parent
>> >> who works 16 hours a week will get ô87/week income after tax credits.
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>> >> Could some kind soul please explain how this was worked out? I know
>> >> plenty of low paid people on tax credits, and none of them get
>> >> anything like this - most get around ù5/week or so plus meagre take
>> >> home pay. I have tried to find the calculations they used to come to
>> >> this conclusion, but all the media articles I found simply state the
>> >> claim and do not break down the figures.
>>
>> >> Thanks.
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>> >you has probably gots to be a single lesbian labour supporting mother
>> >recent immigrant with XDR TB, AIDS and a crack habit.
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>> Not according to Entitled To (which works these things out). Using the
>> entitle to calculator I can get it to around ò00 net for single
>> parent earning NMW for 16 hours/week.
>> However, a friend of mine has just come off that scenario because
>> 1) they only got around half the figure suggested and
>> 2) her housing benefit was negligible and she had private rent of
>> õ50/month to pay. The calculator suggests that they would pay
>> ø6/week of her rent, but they certainly did not.- Hide quoted text -
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>How did she pay all that rent from earnings of 16 hrs?
She couldn't - that's why she had to give up work and go back on
income support. That's why I have to beef with these figures people
are bandying about.
(she ran up a credit card debt of £3000 trying to cover everything)
> Perhaps there
>is some other element your friend has not mentioned? Or maybe they
>made a mistake. That is rife with benefits. People need to study the
>system. There are manuals on means tested benefits in libraries. I
>have an old copy from 1997 called the Benefits Guide.
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I think with her the problem may be is that she has two older children
living with her - one works but only earns a pittance (£40/week or
someting as an apprentice hairdresser). The other is not entitled to
any benefits as she is over 16. That also meant my friend lost her
single person council tax discount - maybe it affected her rent
allowance too.
John of Aix
Being a unijambist helps too
Mikein...@aol.com
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You would have to get a manual or use a library to work it out. It
looks as though your friend in fact had no children to be accounted
for in the benefits calculation. The example given in my link and
Field's paper there were two.
Talking of tax or benefit mistakes, the Revenue recently sent me an
additional assessment saying I'd omitted Jobseekers Allowance from my
tax return. In fact I did not get any but did sign on. They issued the
additional assessment without checking the facts.