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Ninja Rogers

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Mar 19, 2004, 6:17:17 AM3/19/04
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http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=316222004

'Politically incorrect' crackdown on gangs dropped by murder hunt
police

DAN MCDOUGALL

Key points

• Campaign against Asian gang culture deemed 'politically incorrect'
• Outrage as BNP leader plans visit to Glasgow in wake of gang murder
• Mother of victim calls for calm after racial tensions mount in area
• Police welcome community response to the murder investigation

Key quote

"Five men, full of hate - and it doesn’t matter to my family and
extended family what colour these men are - murdered my eldest son" -
Angela Donald, mother of murder victim Kris Donald

STRATHCLYDE Police abandoned a high-level investigation to clamp down
on the emergence of an Asian gang culture in Glasgow after the
operation was deemed to be politically incorrect.

The revelation came as Nick Griffin, the leader of the British
National Party, prompted outrage by announcing a visit to Glasgow
this weekend, days after a teenager was abducted and murdered,
allegedly by a gang of Asian youths.

Police and community leaders in the Pollokshields area of Glasgow
called for calm, following rising public concern over the kidnap and
murder of Kriss Donald, 15.

As detectives continued the hunt for his killers, The Scotsman
learned that Operation Gadher, a police investigation designed to
tackle the growth of Asian gang culture in the city’s southside, was
stopped six months ago over fears that it wasn’t politically correct.

Speaking yesterday, a police source said the operation, launched by
Strathclyde’s G Division, which covers Pollokshields, had been halted
by senior officers. He said: "Gang culture among Asians has been
causing the police concern for some time, and we did have a dedicated
team looking at it, but six months ago a number of senior officers
got cold feet, claiming it didn’t look good to be solely
investigating Asian gangs.

"The decision wasn’t welcomed in the station."

Detective Superintendent Elliot McKenzie, who is leading the murder
investigation, said his inquiry team of more than 60 officers had
been overwhelmed by the response from the public.

He added: "We have recovered two cars in the Glasgow area that are
being examined.

"I am delighted with the response from the public. People are
genuinely shocked at this crime, and this is reflected in the amount
of calls from those anxious to help."

Mr Griffin claimed the trip to Scotland had been part of the BNP’s
long-term strategy for the European elections.

He is also planning to visit Pollokshields tomorrow.

However, John Swinney, the SNP leader, revealed he had written to the
Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police, Willie Rae, calling for the
police to examine what powers they have to prevent Mr Griffin from
visiting the area.

A police spokeswoman said banning the BNP would prove difficult. "We
can’t ban someone from visiting a city. However, we are aware of the
proposed visit, which is continually being assessed," she said.

Angela Donald, the mother of the murder victim, pleaded with people
in the south side of the city to help bring the killers of her son to
justice, instead of venting their anger in tit-for-tat racial
violence.

She said: "Five men, full of hate - and it doesn’t matter to my
family and extended family what colour these men are - murdered my
eldest son. Kriss is gone because of gangs, not just in
Pollokshields, but every area of our communities.

"However, I would urge the public not to target the Asian community
because of his death. Kriss’s life and short time in our world will
be for nothing if those responsible are not caught and punished for
the horror they have brought to my family."
___________

This is worth repeating: "Police abandoned a high-level investigation
to clamp down on the emergence of an Asian gang culture in Glasgow
after the operation was deemed to be politically incorrect."

Unbe-fucking-lievable...

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Welsh Witch

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Mar 19, 2004, 7:51:58 AM3/19/04
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> http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=316222004
>
> 'Politically incorrect' crackdown on gangs dropped by murder hunt
> police
>
> DAN MCDOUGALL
>
> Key points
>

> . Campaign against Asian gang culture deemed 'politically incorrect'
> . Outrage as BNP leader plans visit to Glasgow in wake of gang murder
> . Mother of victim calls for calm after racial tensions mount in area
> . Police welcome community response to the murder investigation

#

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I couldn't believe my eyes when I read this arrticle this morning...I
thought "This must be a first" the report below.
It was at the top of the paper this morning on the net, then it was whipped
off quite suddenly. I only found it by going through a "different" search.

They have actually mentioned that the perpetrators are black, which is
unusual in a first report for the TV (well BBC) etc
Shropshire is a very quiet rural area oif you don't know it ...most of it
anyway. Telford is getting very rough as it evident from the report so I
don;t know whether they were told to withdraw the report from the internet
or what happened. Its had been replaced by a report of a paedophile.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Man injured in gun terror at house

A 36-year-old man was injured when an armed gang burst into a Telford home
and threatened him with a gun, police revealed today. It is believed the
victim was confronted by five men at the house in Hayward Avenue,
Donnington.
Three men were arrested today in early morning swoops in the Telford area.
Detectives are this afternoon attempting to trace two others.
The gang struck in Donnington earlier this week.
Three houses in the Trench, Arleston and Donnington areas were raided and
searched, but no weapons recovered.
The 36-year-old victim suffered an injury to his face when confronted by the
gang at the house on Tuesday night.
Detective Inspector Phil Pledger, of Telford CID, said it appeared there was
a dispute between the victim and the five men who burst into the house. He
said it was believed a handgun may have been produced by one of the gang.
The victim, who has not been named, suffered a cut face during the
confrontation and was left shocked.
"If there was a firearm it is uncommon for them to be used in this way in
the Telford area, but we are treating this matter very seriously," said Mr
Pledger.
The victim and his girlfriend were temporary lodgers at the home of a couple
who are not connected to the raiders.
Mr Pledger said the five men burst into the house just after 9pm.
"The background details to the dispute between the victim and the men are
being investigated," said Mr Pledger.
He said the five men, described as being black, made their escape in two or
three vehicles - one of which may have been a people carrier.
Three men were arrested today - two at a house in Teagues Crescent, Trench,
and another at Ash Lea Drive, Donnington.
The men - in their late 20s and early 30s - were being questioned today on
suspicion of aggravated burglary and firearms offences.
An appeal has been made for witnesses who may have been in Hayward Avenue on
Tuesday between 9pm and 9.45pm.
Anyone with information can contact Detective Sergeant Pete

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Maria

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Mar 19, 2004, 10:16:30 AM3/19/04
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On 19 Mar 2004 11:17:17 GMT, Ninja Rogers <ninja...@lycos.co.uk>
wrote:


>This is worth repeating: "Police abandoned a high-level investigation
>to clamp down on the emergence of an Asian gang culture in Glasgow
>after the operation was deemed to be politically incorrect."
>
>Unbe-fucking-lievable...
>

Except you left off this bit -

"Speaking yesterday, a police source said the operation, launched by
Strathclyde’s G Division, which covers Pollokshields, had been halted
by senior officers. He said: "Gang culture among Asians has been
causing the police concern for some time, and we did have a dedicated
team looking at it, but six months ago a number of senior officers
got cold feet, claiming it didn’t look good to be solely
investigating Asian gangs."

Can anyone tell me why they should only be investigating Asian gangs
when it is evident that white gang violence is a problem there?

Columbo

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Mar 19, 2004, 10:39:16 AM3/19/04
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Because "Gang culture among Asians has been causing the police concern for
some time" apparently.
Anyway, their not investigating it now because "six months ago a number of

pencil

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Mar 20, 2004, 4:08:08 AM3/20/04
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"Maria" <ivegot6kidsooerhowt...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
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More sophistry from the sophist. (Sophistry - last refuge of the left when
beaten in argument)


Aramis Gunton

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Mar 20, 2004, 6:13:00 AM3/20/04
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In message <Xns94B172E069...@130.133.1.4>, Ninja Rogers
<ninja...@lycos.co.uk> writes

>STRATHCLYDE Police abandoned a high-level investigation to clamp down
>on the emergence of an Asian gang culture in Glasgow after the
>operation was deemed to be politically incorrect.

Fine, OK a risk of upsetting immigrant sensibilities. Never mind the
crime originating from same . I can follow that.

> However, John Swinney, the SNP leader, revealed he had written to the
> Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police, Willie Rae, calling for the
police to >examine what powers they have to prevent Mr Griffin from
visiting the area.

Fine, OK, seek any possible way available to curtail the freedom of
movement of the leader of an established political party in order to
avoid the risk of upsetting immigrant sensibilities. I can follow that.

I think I am getting the hang of this multicultural thingy.

Am I allowed to still say 'hang' after all it is frighteningly
reminiscent of 'lynch'?

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Aramis Gunton

Maria

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Mar 20, 2004, 6:44:27 AM3/20/04
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It is a valid question. Why don't you want white gangs investigated
too?

Maria

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Mar 20, 2004, 7:32:17 AM3/20/04
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I suggest

http://www.geocities.com/glasgow_gangs/home.html

Here is a lisst of gangs in Glasgow.

21 Krew
Pollok

9 Krew
Pollok

Antique Mob
Shettleston

Apache
Possil

Apostles
Ferguslie Park

Ardmory Young Team
Unknown

Aunty
Possil

Avenglen
Knightswood


Baby Buck
Drumchapel

Baby Cumbie
Castlemilk

Baby Cumbie
Gorbals

Baby Govan
Govan

Baby Sham
Garngad

Baby Tongs
Calton

Bal Toi
Easterhouse

Bal Toi
Wellhouse

Baltic Fleet
Bridgeton

Banner Boys
Knightswood

Bar-G
Bargeddie

Bar-L
Barlanark

Bar-L Bears
Barlanark

Bath Gang
Anderston

Bears
Govanhill

Beehive Corner Boys
Gorbals

Bell On Boys
Unknown

Bellway Fleeto
Drumchapel

Big Bar-L
Barlanark

Big Do'ehill
Calton

Billy Boys
Bridgeton

Billy Boys
Glasgow

Billy Boys
Haghill

Billy Boys
Various Areas

Billy Girls
Bridgeton

Billy Girls
Glasgow

Billy Girls
Various Areas

Bingo Boys
Govan

Bison
Auchinairn

Bison
Balornock

Bison
Bishopbriggs

Bison
Kirkintilloch

Black Diamond Boys
Gorbals

Black Hand Gang
Calton

Blackhill Coby
Blackhill

Black Muffler
Clydebank

Black Star
Calton

Blade
Eastfield

Bloodhound Flying Corps
Hutchestontown

Blue Angels
Glasgow

Blythswood Cafe Mob
Anderston

Bobby's Boys
Partick

Boig
Springboig

Boon Platoon
Drumchapel

Boot Boys
Govanhill

Boot Boys
Various Areas

Boot Girls
Govanhill

Boot Girls
Various Areas

Border
Possil

Border
Johnstone

Border
Maryhill

Border
Parkhead

Border Bandits
Dennistoun

Border Troop
Possil

Bowery Mad Sqwad
Barrheed

Bowery Young Team
Barrheed

Bowery Vandals
Barrheed

Bowery
Barrhead

Bowrie
Whiteinch

Bowrie Boys
Whiteinch

Bridgegate Boys
Gallowgate

Brig Ahoy
Unknown

Brigade
Gallowgate

Brigton Derry
Bridgeton

Buck
Drumchapel

Bud
Budhill

Bundy
Castlemilk

Bundy
Clydebank

Bundy
Kirkintilloch

Bundy
Pollok

Bundy
Drumry

Bundy
Pollokshaws

Bus Fleeto
Castlemilk

Bus Fleeto
Various Areas

Butney
Maryhill

Butny Boys
Maryhill

Byre
Castlemilk

Cadder Young Team
Cadder

Calton Entry Boys
Calton

Calton Entry Mob
Calton

Calton Entry Mob
Tollcross

Calvay Mothers
Barlanark

Car-D
Cardonald

Car-D
Cardowan

Castlemilk Young Team
Castlemilk

Catholic Young Team
Garngad

Catholic Young Team
Parkhead

Catholic Young Team
Various Areas

Catholic Young Team
Provanmill

Cheeky Forty
Garngad

Choir
Hyndland

Choir Boys
Scotstoun

Chunky
Anderston

Clockwork Disciples
Ferguslie Park

Cody
Maryhill

Cody
Cranhill

Commy
Easterhouse

Commy
Commonhead

Corner Boys
Blackhill

Cow Toi
Cowcaddens

Cowboys
Dennistoun

Coyotes
Glasgow

Craig
Castlemilk

Cranhill Young Team
Cranhill

Crazy Young Goucho
Carntyne

Crew
Pollok

Croftfoot Young Team
Croftfoot

Cross
Anderston

Cross
Cardowan

Cross
Partick

Cross
Pollok

Cross
Queens Cross

Cross
Woodside

Cross Boys
Anderston

Cross Boys
Partick

Cross Boys
Queens Cross

Cross Boys
Woodside

Cross Boys
Finnieston

Cross Young Team
Partick

Crossy Warriors
Partick

Cumbie
Castlemilk

Cumbie
Gorbals

Cumbie
Busby

Cumbies
Gorbals

Cyto
Cadder

Cyto
Cranhill

Cyto
Garngad

Cyto
Gorbals

Cyto
Partick

Cyto
Provanmill

Cyto
Various Areas

Dead Dogs
Partick

Death Valley Boys
Maryhill

Den Toi
Easterhouse

Derry
Haghill

Derry
Possil

Derry
Elderslie

Derry Boys
Bridgeton

Derry Boys
Drumchapel

Dickie
Bridgeton

Dirty Dozen
Gorbals

Disciples
Ferguslie Park

Dougie Boys
Anderston

Drag
Easterhouse

Drag
Lochend

Drummy
Drumchapel

Drummy
Easterhouse

Drummy
Lochend

Drumoyne Young Team
Drumoyne

Drumy
Drumoyne

Drygate Youths
Drygate

Duke Street Firm
Dennistoun

Egyptians
Tollcross

Elite
Parkhead

Eminent
Calton


Feegie Hatchet Gang
Ferguslie Park

Fernie
Maryhill

Fleet
Castlemilk

Fleet
Cranhill

Fleet
Finnieston

Fleet
Knightswood

Fleet
Maryhill

Fleet
Partick

Fleet
Possil

Fleet
Scotstoun

Fleet
Various Areas

Fleet
Anniesland

Fleet
Garscadden

Fleet
Greenfield

Fleet
Queenslie

Fleet
Ruchazie

Georges Cross
Woodside

Gestapo
Dennistoun

Ging-Gong
Unknown

Glen
Rutherglen

Glenburn Team
Paisley

Gold Dust Gang
Gorbals

Gorbals Cumbie
Gorbals

Goucho
Carntyne

Govan Team
Govan

Govan Young Team
Govan

Govanhill Young Team
Govanhill

Gringo
Barmulloch

Gyto
Garscadden

Gyto
Govanhill

Gyto
Garthamlock

Gyto
Germiston

Hammer Boys
Gorbals

Haugh Boys
Yorkhill

Hazel Bells
Bridgeton

Hazel bells
Mile End

Hell's Troops
Paisley

Hi-Hi's
Gorbals

Hill
Govanhill

Himshie
Cambuslang

Home Boys
Larchgrove

Hot Peanuts
Townhead

Hun
Paisley

Hutchie
Hutchestontown

Hutchie
Croftfoot

Hutchie
Oatlands

Hutchie
Polmadie

Inter City Firm
Glasgow

Inter City Firm No.1
Maryhill

K Gang
Bridgeton

Kelly Bow
Govan

Kelly Boys
Govan

Kent Star
Calton

Kilburn Boyz Krew
Kilburn

Kinning Park Rebels
Kinning Park

Kinning Park Star
Kinning Park

Kirky
Kirkintilloch

Klu Klux Klan
Bridgeton

Knife Club
Craigton

Krew
Pollok

K-Wood
Knightswood

K-Wood Young team
Knightswood

Lady Buck
Drumchapel

Lady Bundy
Pollok

Lady Fleet
Castlemilk

Lady Fleet
Various Areas

Lady Govan Team
Govan

Lady Sham
Garngad

Lady Spur
Barrowfield

Lady Toi
Cowcaddens

Lady Toi
Various Areas

Liberty Boys
Gorbals

Linty
Linthouse

Local Defence Volunteers
Haghill

Lochy Crewe
Easterhouse

Lochy-C
Bridgeton

Lochy-Crewe
Lochend

Mad Monks
Garscadden

Maryhill Boot Squad
Maryhill

Maryhill Mad Sqwad
Maryhill

Maryhill Young Team
Maryhill

McGlynn Push
Gorbals

Mealy Boys
Gorbals

Memel Toi
Springburn

Midget Moors
Renfrew

Milton Tongs
Milton

Mini Bar-L
Barlanark

Mini Cumbie
Gorbals

Mini Sham
Garngad

Mini Team
Govan

Mini Tongs
Calton

Monks
Dennistoun

Moors
Paisley

Moors
Renfrew

Motherwell Boyz
Motherwell

Mummies
Maryhill

Nitsie
Nitshill

Norman Conks
Bridgeton

Norman Conquerors
Bridgeton

Nunnie Boys
Bridgeton

Nunny
Bridgeton

Old Kilpatrick Bundy
Old Kilpatrick

Pak
Easterhouse

Paka
Linwood

Paka
Mosspark

Parlour Boys
Gorbals

Parlour Girls
Gorbals

Peel Glen Boys
Drumchapel

Peel Glen Boys Skinheads
Drumchapel

Peg
Balornock

Peg
Springburn

Pen
Penilee

Penny Mob Gangs
Glasgow

Pigs
Possil

Pirates
Cranhill

Plaza Posse
Govanhill

Plum Boys
Bridgeton

Pollok Young Team
Pollok

Pollok ZZY
Pollok

Port Toi
Port Dundas

Posse
Easterhouse

Posse
Govan

Posse
Knightswood

Posse
Pollok

Posse
Scotstoun

Potty Mob
Priesthill

Powery
Haghill

Powery Mad Squad
Haghill

Priesty
Priesthill

Provie Rebels
Easterhouse

Provie Rebels
Provanmill

Provie Rebels
Provanhall

Psychie Young Young
Baillieston

Quarry
Partick

Queen Bees
Gorbals

Queens Cross Boys
Maryhill


Rawe Posse
Dennistoun

Real Bar-L
Barlanark

Real Calton Tongs
Calton

Real Mentol Shamrock
Garngad

Rebels
Pollok

Rebels
Possil

Rebels
Queenslie

Rebels
Rutherglen

Rebels
Tradeston

Redskins
Anderston

Redskins
Bridgeton

Redskins
Calton

Redskins
Finnieston

Redskins
Gallowgate

Redskins
Glasgow

Redskins
Gorbals

Redskins
Mile End

Redskins
Townhead

Redskins
Tradeston

Remo
Renfrew

Renfrew Team
Renfrew

Rolland Street Boys
Maryhill

Roman Catholic Tongs
Calton

Ross Street Boys
Calton

Royston Catholic Tongs
Royston

Ruchill Boys
Ruchill

Rutherglen Wild Team
Rutherglen

Sally
Parkhead

Sally Boys
Parkhead

San Toi
Calton

San Toy
Calton

San Toy Boys
Calton

Saracen Tongs
Hamiltonhill

Scurvy
Temple

Shafton Boys
Knightswood

Shamrock
Garngad

Shamrock
Germiston

Shamrock
Roystonhill

Shamrock Toi
Parkhead

Shamrock Young Team
Garngad

Shanghai Boys
Bridgeton

Shaws
Pollokshaws

She Bar-L
Barlanark

She Calton Tongs
Calton

She Cumbie
Gorbals

She Fleet
Maryhill

She Krew
Pollok

She Scurvy
Temple

She Toi
Calton

She Toi
Castlemilk

She Toi
Easterhouse

She Tongs
Calton

She Toon
Townhead

Shields
Pollokshields

Shotgun Remo
Renfrew

Sid Sick Medicine Men Bar-L
Barlanark

Silver Bell
Unknown

Simba
Battlefield

Skerryvore Young Team
Cranhill

Skid Row
Barlanark

Skinhead Shamrock
Garngad

Skinheads
Easterhouse

Skull
Burnside

Skull
Cathcart

Skull
Toryglen

South Side Stickers
Gorbals

Southie
South Nitshill

Spacemen
Govan

Spur
Barrowfield

Spur
Bridgeton

Star
Garthamlock

Star
Kinning Park

Stickers
Gorbals

Stickit
Bridgeton

Stickit Boys
Bridgeton

Stillie Team
Calton

Stud
Kinning Park

Suicide Hun
Paisley

Syto
Cranhill

Syto
Garngad

Syto
Scotstoun


Tambowie Team
Temple

Tay
Castlemilk

Temple Boys
Temple

Chris X

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"Maria" <ivegot6kidsooerhowt...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
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> On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 15:39:16 -0000, "Columbo"
> <kipper...@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >Anyway, their not investigating it now because "six months ago a number
of
> >senior officers got cold feet, claiming it didn't look good to be solely
> >investigating Asian gangs."
> >
> >
>
> I suggest
>
> http://www.geocities.com/glasgow_gangs/home.html
>
> Here is a lisst of gangs in Glasgow.
>
> 21 Krew
> Pollok

(Merciful Snip!)

My God, that site is the epitome of sadness.

Maria

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Mar 20, 2004, 7:51:20 AM3/20/04
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Tell you what, I've just found another three, dedicated to the same
thing.

Still, after 100 or so years of it, I can see why the police might
have got bored.

Steve Smith

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"Maria" <ivegot6kidsooerhowt...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
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Presumably they had needed police officers with the correct appearance and
linguistic skills to infiltrate these gangs, which would make it more
specialist.

One assumes they have always investigated indiginous criminality.


Steve Smith

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"Maria" <ivegot6kidsooerhowt...@ntlworld.com> wrote in
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The funniest thing about the site is that amongst the advertisement popups
there's one for an IQ test!
Steve


Columbo

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Mar 20, 2004, 2:21:08 PM3/20/04
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Glasgow has always had a big gang culture. The police probably know that
99.9% of the gangs you posted are just stupid kids and certainly not capable
of child murder. If the police feel there is a need to launch an
investigation into Asian gangs, which obviously there is, then they
shouldn't be bound by political correctness.

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