TIME TO BAN TRADE UNIONS
The Rifleman
can be certain these militant left wing scum will do their best to make life
as miserable as possible for the travellors, and its this government of left
wing tossders who want us to give up our cars are rely on public tramnsport
???, They have got to be joking. Trade unions are a greater threat to
astable society than the idiots of the BNP, its time they were banned.
Mark, Devon
Do you suffer with sexdyxlia?
jb
"The Rifleman" <surv...@northland.co.uk> wrote in message
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Well done Rifleman, will you be banning the fledgling organisation being set
up as we speak, to protect the Armed Forces and their dependents?
Have you noticed the people working in the fields seven days a week,
fourteen hours a day in high summer?
NO!, why not?
Because they banded together to force their employers to stop exploiting
them.
Do you wish to see those days back again?
The Rifleman
"jb" <babyd...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Well done Rifleman, will you be banning the fledgling organisation being
> set
> up as we speak, to protect the Armed Forces and their dependents?
> Have you noticed the people working in the fields seven days a week,
> fourteen hours a day in high summer?
> NO!, why not?
> Because they banded together to force their employers to stop exploiting
> them.
> Do you wish to see those days back again?
>
>
all walk away or get other jobs, there is over 1.68 million vacancies in the
UK , plus the social state so no one is forced to do anything. Unions are
not needed and are a threat to a stable society.
jb
>
> "jb" <babyd...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:w3Irh.90713$QY6....@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> > Well done Rifleman, will you be banning the fledgling organisation being
> > set
> > up as we speak, to protect the Armed Forces and their dependents?
> > Have you noticed the people working in the fields seven days a week,
> > fourteen hours a day in high summer?
> > NO!, why not?
> > Because they banded together to force their employers to stop exploiting
> > them.
> > Do you wish to see those days back again?
> >
> >
> No one forces them to work,
Hunger is a great forcer, you should try it sometime!
no one forces people to join the army,
Try saying that when conscription starts again.
they can
> all walk away or get other jobs,
They can but why should they?
I can remember when I walked out of one job and into another and then back
to the first job when the gaffer upped my wages by a two bob and hour/ an
extra four quid a week, it sure made a big difference to my life.
there is over 1.68 million vacancies in the
> UK
Most of them in non jobs or in shit waged jobs or poor working conditions.
, plus the social state so no one is forced to do anything.
Oh! the social state, the big un:-)
No more poor houses for us, we got the social state.
Lord and Lady Rifleman riding by the poor house in their Brougham drawn by
four dappled grays on their way to tiffin with their majesties at Windsor.
Lady rifleman dabs at her pert little nose with her lace handkerchief and
admonishes her coachman Jeffries.
"If you don't want to be living there this time tomorrow, then gee the
'orses up you fat overfed,overpaid lout"
Unions are
> not needed and are a threat to a stable society.
That has got to be the biggest oxymoron of all time.
We only have a stable society because we have trade unions.
We have a five day week with weekends because we have trade unions.
We have an NHS because we have Trade unions.
We have law and order because we have trade unions.
We don't have food riots in the streets because we have trade unions.
If your beef is with trade union bosses then say so.
>
>
Harry the Horse
Harry the Horse
>
>>
> No one forces them to work, no one forces people to join the army, they
> can all walk away or get other jobs, there is over 1.68 million vacancies
> in the UK , plus the social state so no one is forced to do anything.
> Unions are not needed and are a threat to a stable society.
fit in very well.
Harry the Horse
>
>> >
>> No one forces them to work,
>
> Hunger is a great forcer, you should try it sometime!
>
market, but for many people who have poor skills or just have the misfortune
to work in a line of work where supply of labour outstrips demand, choice is
illusory and you have to take work where you can find it. To say that such
people should have no right to collectively bargain for a better deal from
their employer would be taking us back to the days prior to the reform acts.
M James Hunt
Harry the Horse wrote:
It is odd. Many who believe that individuals should be free to charge
whatever the market will pay for goods and services, and withold them
from those who are not willing or able to pay seem to be unwilling to
apply this free market principle to workers.
job...@hushmail.com
Moreover, those who are content for employers to group together to fix
prices are completely against workers grouping together to obtain
better rates of pay or better working conditions.
Harry the Horse
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employees the liberty to act collectively to protect themselves.
The Rifleman
> That has got to be the biggest oxymoron of all time.
> We only have a stable society because we have trade unions.
> We have a five day week with weekends because we have trade unions.
> We have an NHS because we have Trade unions.
> We have law and order because we have trade unions.
> We don't have food riots in the streets because we have trade unions.
>
> If your beef is with trade union bosses then say so.
>>
>>
Trade unions are a disruptive socialist waste of time, there recent historuy
shows us Rail Strike, Fire Fighters strikes, works to rule, closed shops,
Postal strikes, Bin mens Strikes, Print workers strikes, Dock workers
strikes, Coal Miners strikes,They are behind the gross overmanning which
lead to the destruction of the car plants, ship yards and coal mines. They
hate democracy, It the TUs who are paying to keep New labour in power yet
its the same TUs who are saying people who join right wing partys should not
be allowed to work in public service. The Army does not need TUs I know cos
I served in the army for 22 years. I dont have a problem with
professional associations to do wage barganing but at the very least it
should be illegal to strike or disrupt public services. Just for your
information re law and order it was the rioting miners who murdered that
taxi driver, it was the rioting print workers who caused 30 million pouinds
worth of damage, It was the Trade unionists who DIRECTLY caused the food
shortages in the 1970s, it was the same unions who caused the power cuts in
the 70s that caused hundreds of premature deaths among the elderly. It was
the unions that caused the public deaths crisis when the bin men struck
leaving the rubbish to rot in the streets in during a hot summer.. Stable
society?? how can they create a stable socieyty when they duisrupt public
service and mail, road and transport systems?. even as I type on the news
the signel men are now balloting for strike action to disrupt the rail
newtwork.
>
The Rifleman
"Harry the Horse" <HarryAtT...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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professional associations, they dont need TUs, closed shops, work to rules,
strikes and other blackmail systems.
The Rifleman
> Actring collectively is fine so long as it does not inflict harship or
> danger on others, They can group bargain for wages etc but they should be
> banned from striking.
Harry the Horse
blackmail?
Harry the Horse
>
> Actring collectively is fine so long as it does not inflict harship or
> danger on others, They can group bargain for wages etc but they should be
> banned from striking.
necessarily be strike action, but could be work to rule, refusal to work
overtime, etc, then you make them powerless. Collective bargaining where
one side has all the power (the employer) and the other (the employees) have
none would be a waste of everyone's time.
Gaz
No, trade unions should not be banned, but maybe we should make them
financially responsible for any costs incurred by their actions (and open to
actions by, in this case, travelling passangers).
Gaz
Fred
> The Rifleman wrote:
>> I see BA staff are planning on striking and now LUL are doing the same,
>> you
>> can be certain these militant left wing scum will do their best to make
>> life
>> as miserable as possible for the travellors, and its this government of
>> left
>> wing tossders who want us to give up our cars are rely on public
>> tramnsport
>> ???, They have got to be joking. Trade unions are a greater threat to
>> astable society than the idiots of the BNP, its time they were banned.
>
It serves as a small reminder of the the crap the general public
had to put up with in the pre Thatcher days.
Harry the Horse
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fact, if damages were levied in proportion to the culpability of the
employer or union, that would be a contribution to making both sides behave
reasonably.
Thored
He's an innumerate authoritarian freedom hater too. There are 1.68
million *unemployed*.
Not vacancies.
ISTR John Hutton giving the figures out late December and vacancies
were 600000. Leaves a shortfall of a million jobs. Or 300000 jobs if
you take only those signing on for benefits which I understand have
gone down by about 26000 this month.
Thored
<surv...@northland.co.uk> wrote:
>
>They have every right to collective bargaining, they can do that through
>professional associations, they dont need TUs,
You're either trolling or stupid
Paul Hyett
<surv...@northland.co.uk> wrote :
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
The Rifleman
"Paul Hyett" <p...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>>
> You are Maggie Thatcher AICMFP. :)
> --
> Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Saint Margret if you dont mind, The Greatest women politician the world has
ever seen and only second best to Winston :o)
Joe
sued for restitution or compensation. So the employers' liability you
mention already exists.
I think what Gaz was suggesting was the removal of the legal immunity
of official trades unions from such civil action, to reach the situation
you seem to be describing.
Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
> Trade unions are a greater threat to astable society than the idiots of
> the BNP, its time they were banned.
Not a chance. If anything they should be stronger. As things stand, they
are like guards dogs with no teeth.
--
Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
Gaz
Yes, Trade Unions have special rights in regard to this, but only if they
follow the proper procedures (which is essentially what Thatcher forced them
to do)....
Gaz
Gaz
I dont think Maggie ever wanted to ban trade unions, just for them to
represent their members, not use their position to bring about the socialist
paradise through industrial unrest.
Gaz
Harry the Horse
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> I think what Gaz was suggesting was the removal of the legal immunity
> of official trades unions from such civil action, to reach the situation
> you seem to be describing.
>
Which would be tantamount to making official strikes illegal.
Harry the Horse
>>
>> I think what Gaz was suggesting was the removal of the legal immunity
>> of official trades unions from such civil action, to reach the situation
>> you seem to be describing.
>
> Yes, Trade Unions have special rights in regard to this, but only if they
> follow the proper procedures (which is essentially what Thatcher forced
> them to do)....
>
immunity to civil action then you would simply see a massive increase in
unofficial and wildcat action. If a sufficient number of employees think
they have a grievance then they will take action whether or not the union
sanctions it.
Harry the Horse
snuffs it :)
The Rifleman
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> as Blair will hopefully face a long drop.
Paul Hyett
<edwinafr...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote :
I don't know about you, but if I see a viciously barking Alsatian, I
wouldn't hang around to see if it was dentally challenged!
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Paul Hyett
>
>ever seen and only second best to Winston :o)
You may think so, but when she finally kicks the bucket, the queue to
piss on her grave will probably be miles long... :)
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Mark, Devon
Did you attend the same grammar school as Mark T?
Harry the Horse
the death penalty, I'd rather that he spent the rest of his miserable life
in a tiny cell in near the Hague.
The Rifleman
"Paul Hyett" <p...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
Yup all those idle closed shop, union only work to rule, militant, three day
week lefties will celebrate I have no doubt.