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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 21, 2011, 7:20:03 PM4/21/11
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'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
format...'
<http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>

Y.

--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'People with power understand exactly one thing: violence'
(Noam Chomsky (1928 - ))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Runge 128

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Apr 22, 2011, 2:05:50 AM4/22/11
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Yawn


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Cassandra

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Apr 22, 2011, 6:03:18 AM4/22/11
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 00:20:03 +0100, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
<yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> 'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
> Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
> format...'
> <http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>

Jewish State ?

Awfully racist don't you think ?

Planet Visitor II

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Apr 22, 2011, 11:51:06 PM4/22/11
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Given the failure of Muslim integration into France's society and economy,
French Muslims are committed to undermining the French state's current
format...

French state???

Awfully racist in your view. See --
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/paris-muslims-block-streets-for-prayers-police-afraid-to-intervene.html


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Cassandra

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Apr 23, 2011, 6:03:08 AM4/23/11
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You don't have be belong to any ethnic group to be a either French or
a Muslim.

Trying getting a flat in Tel Aviv if you're a Chinese Buddhist. Or
indeed an arab whose familly have lived there for centuries.

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 23, 2011, 7:06:22 AM4/23/11
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Our friends in Jerusalem have South Korean neighbours.

> Or indeed an arab whose familly have lived there for centuries.

<http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf20.html#a>

Y.

--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'AADP's Left-Wing Israeli Intellectual'
'It is crystal clear to me that if the Arabs put down a draft
resolution blaming Israel for Hurricane Katrina, it would probably have
a majority, the US would veto it and Britain and France would abstain'
(Amos Oz (1939 - ))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

aaa

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Apr 23, 2011, 8:51:21 AM4/23/11
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein wrote:

> 'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
> Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's
> current format...'
> <http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>
> Y.

Just like the "Jews" or the "Gypsies" were the enemy within Nazi
Germany?

A state should exist for all its people, not just for one ethnic group.

If you had been born blue eyed and fair skinned in 1910 Germany, I have
no doubt that you would have been a fanatical Nazi.

aaa

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Apr 23, 2011, 8:53:52 AM4/23/11
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein wrote:

That must give a racist like you night mares!!!

Runge 128

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Apr 23, 2011, 11:29:20 AM4/23/11
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I think you're not a real jew...


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Ariadne

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Apr 23, 2011, 1:44:48 PM4/23/11
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On Apr 23, 11:03 am, shaun.jame...@ntlworld.comq (Cassandra) wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:51:06 -0400, Planet Visitor II
>
>
>
>
>
> <na...@nosuchserver.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:03:18 GMT, shaun.jame...@ntlworld.comq (Cassandra) wrote:
>
> >>On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 00:20:03 +0100, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
> >><yitz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>
> >>>    'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
> >>>    Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
> >>>    format...'
> >>>    <http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>
> >>Jewish State ?
>
> >>Awfully racist don't you think ?
>
> >Given the failure of Muslim integration into France's society and economy,
> >French Muslims are committed to undermining the French state's current
> >format...
>
> >French state???
>
> >Awfully racist in your view.  See --
> >http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/paris-muslims-block-streets-for-pra...

>
> You don't have be belong to any ethnic group to be a either French or
> a Muslim.
>
> Trying getting a flat in Tel Aviv if you're a Chinese Buddhist. Or
> indeed an arab whose familly have lived there for centuries.

You get dhimmer and dhimmer!

Planet Visitor II

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Apr 24, 2011, 1:44:55 AM4/24/11
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:03:08 GMT, shaun....@ntlworld.comq (Cassandra) wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:51:06 -0400, Planet Visitor II
><na...@nosuchserver.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:03:18 GMT, shaun....@ntlworld.comq (Cassandra) wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 00:20:03 +0100, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
>>><yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
>>>> Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
>>>> format...'
>>>> <http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>>>>
>>>Jewish State ?
>>>
>>>Awfully racist don't you think ?
>>
>>Given the failure of Muslim integration into France's society and economy,
>>French Muslims are committed to undermining the French state's current
>>format...
>>
>>French state???
>>
>>Awfully racist in your view. See --
>>http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/paris-muslims-block-streets-for-prayers-police-afraid-to-intervene.html
>>
>You don't have be belong to any ethnic group to be a either French or
>a Muslim.

Of course one does, my boy. Try asking any Frenchman. In fact, try asking my wife,
who was born and raised in France, if she is "ethnic" French. While Muslims presume
themselves to be an "ethnic group."

>Trying getting a flat in Tel Aviv if you're a Chinese Buddhist. Or
>indeed an arab whose familly have lived there for centuries.

Trying getting into the West Bank if you are Jewish, without being shot dead. See --
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/24/2182767/israeli-killed-two-wounded-in.html
From TODAY'S news... Quote -- "Palestinians shot and killed one Israeli and wounded two
others early Sunday near Joseph's Tomb, a Jewish holy site inside the Palestinian city of
Nablus"

Planet Visitor II

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Apr 24, 2011, 1:45:02 AM4/24/11
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Heh heh...

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 24, 2011, 2:21:54 PM4/24/11
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What do nocturnal horses have to do with my friends' neighbours, you
illiterate Nazi whore?

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'AADP's Left-Wing Israeli Intellectual'

'You can't `grep` dead trees'
(Unknown)
<http://www.palwatch.org/>

Hotblack Desiato

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Apr 24, 2011, 2:43:10 PM4/24/11
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>"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" wrote in message
>news:3mq688-...@yahoo.co.il...

>
>'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
>Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
>format...'
><http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>

Nothing surprising here. 98% of humanity sees Israel's behaviour as
narcissistic, bordering on the psychopathic. Even Jewish people are stepping
back in horror and disgust. Suicide in slow motion bitches, you mark my
words.

Planet Visitor II

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Apr 24, 2011, 2:51:30 PM4/24/11
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:43:10 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato" <trash855...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>>"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" wrote in message
>>news:3mq688-...@yahoo.co.il...
>>
>>'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
>>Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
>>format...'
>><http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>>
>
>Nothing surprising here. 98% of humanity sees Israel's behaviour as
>narcissistic, bordering on the psychopathic.

I doubt seriously that 98% of humanity is anti-Semitic. I suspect you believe
that only because your close-knit circle of racist friends are 98%
anti-Semitic.

>Even Jewish people are stepping back in horror and disgust. Suicide in
>slow motion bitches, you mark my words.

I believe reasonable people are stepping back in horror and disgust at
your hate for the Jews. Why not kill yourself and make the world a better
place to live???

Nice_Paula

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Apr 24, 2011, 2:53:56 PM4/24/11
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On Apr 24, 7:21 pm, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> In alt.activism.death-penalty aaa <a...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein wrote:
>
> >> In alt.activism.death-penalty Cassandra <shaun.jame...@ntlworld.comq>

> >> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:51:06 -0400, Planet Visitor II
> >> > <na...@nosuchserver.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:03:18 GMT, shaun.jame...@ntlworld.comq
> 'Far right Israeli rascist'

>         'You can't `grep` dead trees'
>         (Unknown)

Stop trying to seduce me, I am not your type.

Hotblack Desiato

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Apr 24, 2011, 2:59:15 PM4/24/11
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"Planet Visitor II" wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:43:10 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato"
<trash855...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>>>"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" wrote in message
>>>news:3mq688-...@yahoo.co.il...
>>>
>>>'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
>>>Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
>>>format...'
>>><http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>>>
>>
>>Nothing surprising here. 98% of humanity sees Israel's behaviour as
>>narcissistic, bordering on the psychopathic.

>I doubt seriously that 98% of humanity is anti-Semitic.

No one's stated anything of the sort. What's anti-Semitism got to do with
it?

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 24, 2011, 3:05:31 PM4/24/11
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In alt.activism.death-penalty Hotblack Desiato <trash855...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" wrote in message
>>news:3mq688-...@yahoo.co.il...
>>
>>'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
>>Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
>>format...'
>><http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>>
>
> Nothing surprising here. 98% of humanity sees Israel's behaviour as
> narcissistic, bordering on the psychopathic.

Do you have a cite for that?

Y.

--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein


'AADP's Left-Wing Israeli Intellectual'

'You don't know a woman until you've met her in court'
(Norman Mailer (1923 - 2007))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 24, 2011, 3:05:57 PM4/24/11
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Amen!

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'AADP's Left-Wing Israeli Intellectual'

'Smile first thing in the morning. Get it over with'
(W.C. Fields (1880 - 1946))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 24, 2011, 3:08:35 PM4/24/11
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In alt.activism.death-penalty Nice_Paula <nice_p...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On Apr 24, 7:21=A0pm, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>> In alt.activism.death-penalty aaa <a...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein wrote:
>>
>> >> In alt.activism.death-penalty Cassandra <shaun.jame...@ntlworld.comq>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:51:06 -0400, Planet Visitor II
>> >> > <na...@nosuchserver.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:03:18 GMT, shaun.jame...@ntlworld.comq
>> >> > > (Cassandra) wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 00:20:03 +0100, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
>> >> >>><yitz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>> >> >>>> =A0 =A0 'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society an=
> d
>> >> economy, >>>> =A0 =A0 Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the
>> >> Jewish state's current >>>> =A0 =A0 format...'
>> >> >>>> =A0 =A0 <http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.htm=

> l>
>>
>> >> > > > Jewish State ?
>>
>> >> > > > Awfully racist don't you think ?
>>
>> >> > > Given the failure of Muslim integration into France's society and
>> >> > > economy, French Muslims are committed to undermining the French
>> >> > > state's current format...
>>
>> >> > > French state???
>>
>> >> > > Awfully racist in your view. =A0See --

>> >> > >http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/paris-muslims-block-streets-for-
>> >> > > prayers-police-afraid-to-intervene.html
>>
>> >> > You don't have be belong to any ethnic group to be a either French
>> >> > or a Muslim.
>>
>> >> > Trying getting a flat in Tel Aviv if you're a Chinese Buddhist.
>>
>> >> Our friends in Jerusalem have South Korean neighbours. =A0

>>
>> > That must give a racist like you night mares!!!
>>
>> What do nocturnal horses have to do with my friends' neighbours, you
>> illiterate Nazi whore?

> Stop trying to seduce me, I am not your type.

'Nice Paula'? Would this be the Nazi troll 'aaa''s real name? 'Paula'?

Ay'oop, and a northern lass an'awe.

Well, no.

And I haven't even started...

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'AADP's Left-Wing Israeli Intellectual'

William Black

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Apr 24, 2011, 3:10:37 PM4/24/11
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On 24/04/11 19:43, Hotblack Desiato wrote:
>> "Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" wrote in message
>> news:3mq688-...@yahoo.co.il...
>>
>> 'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
>> Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
>> format...'
>> <http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>>
>
> Nothing surprising here. 98% of humanity sees Israel's behaviour as
> narcissistic, bordering on the psychopathic.

98% of humanity isn't even aware that Israel exists.

But, to look at some numbers, about 12% of the people in the world are
Indian Hindus, the vast majority of whom have absolutely no sympathy
for any Muslims.

I could go on looking at China and an assortment of other places who
hate Muslims for an assortment of reasons, but I honestly can't be bothered.

--
William Black

Free men have open minds
If you want loyalty, buy a dog...

Hotblack Desiato

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Apr 24, 2011, 3:12:11 PM4/24/11
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"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" wrote in message
news:rs8e88-...@yahoo.co.il...

In alt.activism.death-penalty Hotblack Desiato
<trash855...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" wrote in message
>>>news:3mq688-...@yahoo.co.il...
>>>
>>>'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
>>>Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
>>>format...'
>>><http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>>>
>>
>> Nothing surprising here. 98% of humanity sees Israel's behaviour as
>> narcissistic, bordering on the psychopathic.
>
>Do you have a cite for that

That you're asking for one implies you're questioning the statistic's
authenticity.. It's not that implausible is it.. You really are a bunch of
egocentric, self-absorbed shits, and everyone is starting to notice

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 24, 2011, 3:15:40 PM4/24/11
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That'll be a 'no', then.

Fuck off, Naziboi. You're dismissed.

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'AADP's Left-Wing Israeli Intellectual'

'Make the Entire System Bow Down to Allah...'
(Abu Mounisa (<http://is.gd/k0A13>))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Nice_Paula

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Apr 24, 2011, 3:16:26 PM4/24/11
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In the past the same was true for Jews, i.e. hated and unfairly
treated by many groups.
So is your point that in the 21st century Muslims are the new Jews?

Nice_Paula

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Apr 24, 2011, 3:29:11 PM4/24/11
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On Apr 24, 7:51 pm, Planet Visitor II <na...@nosuchserver.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:43:10 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato" <trash855-killf...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein"  wrote in message
> >>news:3mq688-...@yahoo.co.il...
>
> >>'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
> >>Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
> >>format...'
> >><http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>
> >Nothing surprising here. 98% of humanity sees Israel's behaviour as
> >narcissistic, bordering on the psychopathic.
>
> I doubt seriously that 98% of humanity is anti-Semitic.  I suspect you believe
> that only because your close-knit circle of racist friends are 98%
> anti-Semitic.

Straw man, being critical of Israel is not anti-semitic.


> >Even Jewish people are stepping back in horror and disgust. Suicide in
> >slow motion bitches, you mark my words.
>
> I believe reasonable people are stepping back in horror and disgust at
> your hate for the Jews.  

The poster has not expressed any hatred against Jews.

> Why not kill yourself and make the world a better
> place to live???

That certainly shows your level.

Nice_Paula

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Apr 24, 2011, 3:40:37 PM4/24/11
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On Apr 24, 8:08 pm, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

What?
Although from "aaa" posts that I have read, she seems to have you
sussed.


> Ay'oop, and a northern lass an'awe.

Do you have something special against the north, or is it just women
in general?

> Well, no.
>
> And I haven't even started...

You would not know how to even start.

William Black

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Apr 24, 2011, 3:49:30 PM4/24/11
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Possibly.

Muslims are hated because a very few of them do stuff that everyone
dislikes.

My experience is that the vast majority of Muslims I meet just want to
be left alone to make a life for themselves but there's no denying that
some of them do like slaughtering innocents for no terribly good reason
except their religion.

The other problem is that when this tiny minority goes berserk and
starts slaughtering innocents a much larger proportion of the rest of
the Muslim population often can't be induced to condemn them.

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 24, 2011, 4:17:59 PM4/24/11
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In alt.activism.death-penalty Nice_Paula <nice_p...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>> 'Nice Paula'?  Would this be the Nazi troll 'aaa''s real name?  'Paula'?

> What?
> Although from "aaa" posts that I have read, she seems to have you
> sussed.

Does she? Well I certainly have her 'sussed'. I also have you 'sussed',
but then that goes without saying, really since 'aaa' and 'Nice_Paula' are
the same person...

<http://img845.imageshack.us/f/aaap.png/>
<http://img801.imageshack.us/f/paulaw.png/>

Both posts made from the same IP address: 80.7.107.98. That IP belongs to
NTL registered in Poole. The last IP before the routers stop responding to
ICMP is: nrth-bb-1b-ae6-0.network.virginmedia.net (213.105.159.33).

You managed to fake your timezone in one, but I'm guessing you posted from
google groups in the other, and forgot. But no matter. We already knew
you were a raging Nazi and a liar who makes up opinions about your
opponents that the latter have never expressed. You are hereby exposed as
a sockpuppet.

Busted!

(I'm _so_ looking forward to your denials, and your explanation as to how
someone managed to post from the same IP as you, but 'isn't the same
person'...)

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'AADP's Left-Wing Israeli Intellectual'

'I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've
always worked for me'
(Hunter Thompson)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Maria

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Apr 24, 2011, 7:31:57 PM4/24/11
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Why don't people say these things about Syria, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya et
al where the government is busy gunning down not potential terrorists,
but unarmed innocent protestors? Israel is relatively a beacon of sanity
in a sea of hysteria.

William Black

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Apr 24, 2011, 8:09:37 PM4/24/11
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Because they're not being shot by Jews.

Some people hold Jews to a higher moral standard.

This is undoubtedly a form of anti-Semitism

Planet Visitor II

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Apr 24, 2011, 10:49:08 PM4/24/11
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Bingo!!!

Planet Visitor II

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Apr 24, 2011, 11:02:13 PM4/24/11
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Read the definition of that word, Biff.

Planet Visitor II

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Apr 24, 2011, 11:03:11 PM4/24/11
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LSHMTFD.... (Laughing so hard my trousers fell down).

>> Why not kill yourself and make the world a better
>> place to live???
>
>That certainly shows your level.

So obviously you're against making the world a better place to live.

Nice_Paula

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Apr 25, 2011, 5:31:36 AM4/25/11
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On Apr 24, 9:17 pm, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> In alt.activism.death-penalty Nice_Paula <nice_paul...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> 'Nice Paula'?  Would this be the Nazi troll 'aaa''s real name?  'Paula'?
> > What?
> > Although from "aaa" posts that I have read, she seems to have you
> > sussed.
>
> Does she?  Well I certainly have her 'sussed'.  I also have you 'sussed',
> but then that goes without saying, really since 'aaa' and 'Nice_Paula' are
> the same person...

You do make some weird shit up.

> <http://img845.imageshack.us/f/aaap.png/>
> <http://img801.imageshack.us/f/paulaw.png/>
>
> Both posts made from the same IP address: 80.7.107.98.  That IP belongs to
> NTL registered in Poole.  The last IP before the routers stop responding to
> ICMP is: nrth-bb-1b-ae6-0.network.virginmedia.net (213.105.159.33).

Poole is not even close to the North!!!


> You managed to fake your timezone in one, but I'm guessing you posted from
> google groups in the other, and forgot.  But no matter.  

I have faked nothing.

> We already knew
> you were a raging Nazi and a liar who makes up opinions about your
> opponents that the latter have never expressed.  You are hereby exposed as
> a sockpuppet.  

You are the most Nazi like person on this group.


> Busted!
>
> (I'm _so_ looking forward to your denials, and your explanation as to how
> someone managed to post from the same IP as you, but 'isn't the same
> person'..

I do not need to.

Nice_Paula

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Apr 25, 2011, 3:21:42 PM4/25/11
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Sounds like most religions and some political idealogies to me.
Essentially people seem to look for examples of bad in different
groups and then use that to form negative oppinions for the entire
group.

William Black

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Apr 25, 2011, 3:29:19 PM4/25/11
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Except that the Muslims do rather seem to be the 'usual suspects' these
days...

Which is bad luck on the Sufis, but they're reasonably quickly being
eliminated by Saudi financed Wahhabi fanatics anyway...

Nice_Paula

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Apr 25, 2011, 3:54:49 PM4/25/11
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Taking a longer view, fashions change, today (as you correctly state)
Muslims are the usual suspects, but in earlier times it was the
Catholics and at different times it was the Jews.
Some types of religion seem to breed violence, especially when these
religions merge with politics, I suspect the clue is that some types
of religion place value on what they call "faith" (which others would
call "irrational dogma") rather than reason.

Some political idealogies (including national socialism and communism)
form a cult like or quasi religious status and would also fall into
this category.

The worst examples (at present) for the merging of politics with
religion do seem to be the Abrahamic faiths. Most of US involvement
in middle east seem to be driven by a christian ethos etc. I am sure
there will be plenty of examples of this happening outside the
abrahamic faiths as well, but more "mystical" type religions like
Buddhism seem to cause far less problems and may do a lot of good.

Ariadne

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Apr 25, 2011, 4:34:20 PM4/25/11
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What's your Arabic name?

Ariadne

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Apr 25, 2011, 4:38:54 PM4/25/11
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Do you actually _know_ anything?

Runge 128

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Apr 25, 2011, 4:47:44 PM4/25/11
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But you are not a jew, are you....
You do have a lot of time on your hands to pretend your stuff...

"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion :
sf9e88-...@yahoo.co.il...

Planet Visitor II

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Apr 25, 2011, 5:41:53 PM4/25/11
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Paula aaaraaafaaat.

Ariadne

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Apr 25, 2011, 6:25:53 PM4/25/11
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On Apr 25, 10:41 pm, Planet Visitor II <na...@nosuchserver.com> wrote:

Most fitting! She didn't get the billions. The
other sharmout did.

William Black

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Apr 25, 2011, 6:40:30 PM4/25/11
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I know.

Jewish terrorists about 100 years ago were busy shooting up the
Metropolitan Police and robbing shops and banks.

But the Jewish Anarchist terrorists of then are now forgotten and the
Jews are now an integrated and respected part of British society.

I imagine the Muslim terrorists will also be long forgotten in 100 years.

I am sure
> there will be plenty of examples of this happening outside the
> abrahamic faiths as well, but more "mystical" type religions like
> Buddhism seem to cause far less problems and may do a lot of good.

http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Sociology/Religion/?view=usa&ci=9780195394832

Never forget that Buddha was of the warrior caste (Ksashtria)

the gods have made us mad

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Apr 25, 2011, 6:45:35 PM4/25/11
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"William Black" wrote in message news:ip2e42$oe2$2...@dont-email.me...

Some people hold Jews to a higher moral standard.

This is undoubtedly a form of anti-Semitism<<

-----------------


700 children a year hauled before Israeli military courts.

700 children in leg irons and manacles.

700 children bullied, coerced, and sometimes tortured by the Israeli state
to make them 'confess'

'Jews' and 'high moral standards'. William, is the stuff of oxymoron's.

It would appear than the average Israeli wouldn't recognise a 'high moral
standard', even if it was paying him 4,000 % interest per annum.


http://fakhoora.org/palestinian-children-in-israeli-military-courts


Ariadne

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Apr 25, 2011, 6:50:27 PM4/25/11
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On Apr 25, 11:45 pm, "the gods have made us mad"
> http://fakhoora.org/

Another ibn sharmoute!

the gods have made us mad

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Apr 25, 2011, 7:06:51 PM4/25/11
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"William Black" wrote in message news:ip4t8r$sk9$1...@dont-email.me...


Jewish terrorists about 100 years ago were busy shooting up the
Metropolitan Police and robbing shops and banks.<<<<


I've noticed previously that you get visibly excited when discussing these
events.

All this Jewish derring-do and gunplay - exciting stuff, but seemingly very
transitory.

Certainly, by the 1930's, that robust Jewish spirit seemed to have vanished
from Germany.

You can't easily get gun-toting gangsters into cattle trucks.


>>But the Jewish Anarchist terrorists of then are now forgotten and the <<
Jews are now an integrated and respected part of British society.<<<


Who, on earth, told you *that*, William?

Perhaps you would care to name a few of these Jews who command respect?

As for 'integrated', try 'inveigled', instead......

the gods have made us mad

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Apr 25, 2011, 7:11:17 PM4/25/11
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"Ariadne" wrote in message
news:8246920b-492e-4597...@l6g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 25, 11:45 pm, "the gods have made us mad"
> http://fakhoora.org/

Another ibn sharmoute!<<<<

Luckily for you, you're my favourite Jewess.

If I'm ever put in charge of a re-education camp, like Amon Roth, I'll
select you as my housekeeper......

Feel free to thank me, already.

John Rennie

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Apr 25, 2011, 7:25:21 PM4/25/11
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Here's a few that command a modicum of respect from
me if not from you which I doubt they would treasure
anyway:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Jewish_writers

the gods have made us mad

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Apr 25, 2011, 7:41:53 PM4/25/11
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"John Rennie" wrote in message
news:-o2dnaXbBaBMnyvQ...@giganews.com...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Jewish_writers<<


Perhaps somewhat predictably, I found no-one there to whom I could accord
one scintilla of respect.

I liked Fredrick Raphael's 'Glittering Prizes' - but I certainly don't
respect him for writing it.

As for some of the others, Coren, Fry, et al - they appear to me to be the
embodiment of mocking Jewry, personifying the spiritual and moral
degradation that has eaten away the soul of this nation like a malignant
tumour devouring tissue..

That Britain would have been far better without them is an observation that
shouldn't need to be made.

William Black

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Apr 25, 2011, 7:42:34 PM4/25/11
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On 26/04/11 00:06, the gods have made us mad wrote:
>
>
> "William Black" wrote in message news:ip4t8r$sk9$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>
> Jewish terrorists about 100 years ago were busy shooting up the
> Metropolitan Police and robbing shops and banks.<<<<
>
>
> I've noticed previously that you get visibly excited when discussing
> these events.
>
> All this Jewish derring-do and gunplay - exciting stuff, but seemingly
> very transitory.
>
> Certainly, by the 1930's, that robust Jewish spirit seemed to have
> vanished from Germany.
>
> You can't easily get gun-toting gangsters into cattle trucks.

Well no.

The Jews had a policy that said that just letting it happen was the best
solution when the 'Cossacks' came around.

It was considered the best way to avoid really nasty problems

The Nazis knew this and exploited it.

I very much doubt it would work a second time.

>>> But the Jewish Anarchist terrorists of then are now forgotten and the <<
> Jews are now an integrated and respected part of British society.<<<
>
>
> Who, on earth, told you *that*, William?
>
> Perhaps you would care to name a few of these Jews who command respect?

Any Jewish MP for a start.

> As for 'integrated', try 'inveigled', instead......

Sophistry, I expected no better.

William Black

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Apr 25, 2011, 7:45:39 PM4/25/11
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On 25/04/11 23:45, the gods have made us mad wrote:
>
>
> "William Black" wrote in message news:ip2e42$oe2$2...@dont-email.me...
>
>
>
> Some people hold Jews to a higher moral standard.
>
> This is undoubtedly a form of anti-Semitism<<
>
> -----------------
>
>
> 700 children a year hauled before Israeli military courts.
>
> 700 children in leg irons and manacles.
>
> 700 children bullied, coerced, and sometimes tortured by the Israeli
> state to make them 'confess'

Well if they didn't throw stuff at soldiers they wouldn't get arrested.

The age of criminal responsibility in Israel is 16.

In the UK it is 12...

the gods have made us mad

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Apr 25, 2011, 7:50:15 PM4/25/11
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"William Black" wrote in message news:ip50t4$akd$5...@dont-email.me...

Any Jewish MP for a start.

> As for 'integrated', try 'inveigled', instead......

Sophistry, I expected no better.<<<<

Whereas you, William, have surprised and delighted me with your hitherto
concealed gift for comedy!

'Any Jewish MP worthy of respect"!

Bwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Step forward, Harry Cohen!


the gods have made us mad

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Apr 25, 2011, 8:03:20 PM4/25/11
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"William Black" wrote in message news:ip512s$akd$6...@dont-email.me...

>>>
Well if they didn't throw stuff at soldiers they wouldn't get arrested.<<

Those stones can be quite unsettling for an IDF soldier in full body
armour, I don't doubt.

As for those old Arabs who also get shot - quite understandable, as their
toothless gums could inflict quite nasty suck marks if they were ever
allowed to get close enough......

>>>>>The age of criminal responsibility in Israel is 16<<<<


So, when the IDF shoot children aged under 16, they're not doing so because
they think the kids are criminals, then?

What is it? - just plain, old fashioned, target practice?

William Black

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Apr 26, 2011, 3:30:01 AM4/26/11
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Very predictable.

Is there a modern author you do respect?


> That Britain would have been far better without them is an observation
> that shouldn't need to be made.

That is a matter of opinion, and your opinion doesn't matter.

William Black

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On 26/04/11 01:03, the gods have made us mad wrote:
>
>
> "William Black" wrote in message news:ip512s$akd$6...@dont-email.me...
>
>>>>
> Well if they didn't throw stuff at soldiers they wouldn't get arrested.<<
>
> Those stones can be quite unsettling for an IDF soldier in full body
> armour, I don't doubt.

I have no idea.

Why not get some and invite people to throw stuff at you.

>>>>>> The age of criminal responsibility in Israel is 16<<<<
>
>
> So, when the IDF shoot children aged under 16, they're not doing so
> because they think the kids are criminals, then?

At the moment it seems to be Arabs doing the shooting of innocents.

They're slaughtering people at a rate that makes Israel look like the
absolute vision of restraint and decency.

There are also stories this morning about the murderous government of
Sri Lanka slaughtering thousands of Tamils for, as far as anyone can
tell, the fun of it.

But of course they're not Jewish so you don't care...

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 27, 2011, 12:39:00 PM4/27/11
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In alt.activism.death-penalty Nice_Paula <nice_p...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 9:17 pm, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yitz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>> In alt.activism.death-penalty Nice_Paula <nice_paul...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>> >> 'Nice Paula'?  Would this be the Nazi troll 'aaa''s real name?  'Paula'?

>> > What? Although from "aaa" posts that I have read, she seems to have
>> > you sussed.

>> Does she?  Well I certainly have her 'sussed'.  I also have you
>> 'sussed', but then that goes without saying, really since 'aaa' and
>> 'Nice_Paula' are the same person...

> You do make some weird shit up.

That's rich, coming from you.

>> <http://img845.imageshack.us/f/aaap.png/>
>> <http://img801.imageshack.us/f/paulaw.png/>
>>
>> Both posts made from the same IP address: 80.7.107.98.  That IP belongs
>> to NTL registered in Poole.  The last IP before the routers stop
>> responding to ICMP is: nrth-bb-1b-ae6-0.network.virginmedia.net
>> (213.105.159.33).

> Poole is not even close to the North!!!

Irrelevant.

>> You managed to fake your timezone in one, but I'm guessing you posted from
>> google groups in the other, and forgot.  But no matter.  
>
> I have faked nothing.

Yes you have, you lying Nazi shitstain. You have created an online 'alias'
with which you post to Usenet. You use two different addresses posting
here, and in your previous follow-up in this very thread, you referred to
'aaa' as 'she', i.e. the third person singular pronoun used to refer to a
third person. This either denotes someone with split personality disorder,
or a lying Nazi troll who creates a sockpuppet. If it's the former, you
have my sympathy. But we both know that it isn't. Irrespective of how
many times you dodge the question or issue disdainful denials, the fact of
the matter is that 'aaa' and 'Nice_Paula' both post from a VirginMedia
address.

The same address.

>> We already knew you were a raging Nazi and a liar who makes up opinions
>> about your opponents that the latter have never expressed.  You are
>> hereby exposed as a sockpuppet.  

> You are the most Nazi like person on this group.

Only to hate-filled, anti-Semitic, pus-filled flotsam like you.



>> Busted!
>>
>> (I'm _so_ looking forward to your denials, and your explanation as to
>> how someone managed to post from the same IP as you, but 'isn't the same
>> person'..

> I do not need to.

Well of course you don't _need_ to. You can create as many aliases as your
Islamic little heart desires, and no one can stop you. But for someone who
tries to pretend that she's preaching 'peace and love' on this group, the
fact that you've created one alias in order to sing the praises of another,
tends to make you look like a lying, snivelling, untrustworthy pile of
pigeon shit.

Which is what you are, all things considered.

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'AADP's Left-Wing Israeli Intellectual'

'If the Nuremberg laws were applied, every post-war American president
would have been hanged'
(Noam Chomsky (1928 - ))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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In alt.activism.death-penalty Nice_Paula <nice_p...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 7:51 pm, Planet Visitor II <na...@nosuchserver.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:43:10 +0100, "Hotblack Desiato" <trash855-killf...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein"  wrote in message
>> >>news:3mq688-...@yahoo.co.il...
>>
>> >>'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
>> >>Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's current
>> >>format...'
>> >><http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>>
>> >Nothing surprising here. 98% of humanity sees Israel's behaviour as
>> >narcissistic, bordering on the psychopathic.
>>
>> I doubt seriously that 98% of humanity is anti-Semitic.  I suspect you believe
>> that only because your close-knit circle of racist friends are 98%
>> anti-Semitic.
>
> Straw man, being critical of Israel is not anti-semitic.

Of course not, Eva. Indeed, no one claimed that it was. The 'straw man'
was thus yours. However, we both know that none of the criticism levelled
at Israel on news:uk.politics.misc by you and your goosestepping cabal has
anything to do with 'legitimate criticism' of Israel. Indeed, you really
don't care a fuck about what happens to Arabs. You only 'care' when it's
being done by Israelis. You've yet to open your cocksucking little lips to
utter a single condemnation of the Arabs being gunned down by other Arabs
in countries where they've the temerity to demand the right to vote.

>> >Even Jewish people are stepping back in horror and disgust. Suicide in
>> >slow motion bitches, you mark my words.
>>
>> I believe reasonable people are stepping back in horror and disgust at
>> your hate for the Jews.  
>
> The poster has not expressed any hatred against Jews.

You are insane.

>> Why not kill yourself and make the world a better
>> place to live???
>
> That certainly shows your level.

Yes, I confess to not having much patience with your brand of scum.

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'AADP's Left-Wing Israeli Intellectual'

'All societies on the verge of death are masculine. A society can
survive with only one man; no society will survive a shortage of women'
(Germaine Greer (1939 - ))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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In alt.activism.death-penalty aaa <an...@aol.com> wrote:

> Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein wrote:
>
>> 'Despite the growing integration into Israel's society and economy,
>> Israel's Arabs are committed to undermining the Jewish state's
>> current format...'
>> <http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4059570,00.html>
>>
>> Y.
>
> Just like the "Jews" or the "Gypsies" were the enemy within Nazi
> Germany?
>
> A state should exist for all its people, not just for one ethnic group.
>
> If you had been born blue eyed and fair skinned in 1910 Germany, I have
> no doubt that you would have been a fanatical Nazi.

Well, you weren't, and you're certainly a Nazi. I know which one I'd
prefer.

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'AADP's Left-Wing Israeli Intellectual'

'Many of the Europeans who want Israel to go away don't even know why
they do. Nearly a third of those interviewed conceded that they have
no idea what the Israeli - Arab conflict is all about. It's enough to
know that Israelis are Jews'
(Suzanne Fields)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
<http://www.palwatch.org/>

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